Kyle Richards’ Mother-In-Law Dr. Estella Sneider Accuses #RHOC’s Peggy Sulahian Of Homophobia Despite Supporting President Trump!

Posted on Aug 1 2017 - 12:56pm by Staff Writer

Real Housewives of Orange County’s rookie housewife, Peggy Sulahian is under attack!

The mother of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star Mauricio Umansky — Dr. Estella Sneider is going after the RHOC newbie in a brazen public Facebook attack — berating Sulahian.

Estella claims the mom of two and her husband Diko are homophobic — and have alienated Peggy’s brother from the family. In a very disturbing and personal Facebook rant, Estella accuses Peggy of turning her back on her brother, Pol’ Atteu, and his fiancé, Patrik Simpson, based on their sexual orientation.

“This woman #PeggySulahian is a hypocrite! This woman and her husband can’t stand the gay community! This woman and her husband can’t stand the gay community!”

The doctor goes onto accuse Sulahian of banning Atteu and Simpson from their father’s funeral on December 9, 2016.

“… I was at the funeral of @PolAtteu father! Pol is my dear friend as well as his fiance @PatrikSimpson. Patrik was not allowed in the chapel until once the service had started someone escorted him to the chapel with security people following behind trying to kick him out! Pol was not even allowed to seat with at special place they have for the family in the chapel! Patrik was not allowed to seat next to his fiance to bring him comfort.”

Mauricio’s mom also claims security watched Sulahian’s brother like a hawk because they ‘hate,’ gays.

“Security had all eyes on Pol’s guests! I have never experienced family behaving like this in a funeral just because they hate gay people!” 



Unique family dynamics can be easily misunderstood by outsiders — and many would call Dr. Estella’s unsolicited rant a stunningly unprofessional move. A trained psychologist drawing surface conclusions, then bashing individuals based on one intensely emotional event is nervy — even in the land of reality TV. 

Read Dr. Estella’s entire Facebook rant below.

Ironically, Kyle Richards’ mother-in-law is a huge President Trump supporter. The Trump administration has not been favorable of the LGBT community — recently banning transgender people from serving in the military, citing the “costs and disruption” associated with allowing them to serve. This is not the first time that the Trump administration has rolled back protections for transgender Americans. In February, the administration pulled back Obama-era protections that allowed transgender students to use bathrooms and facilities that corresponded to their gender identity.

Estella has a reputation of being aggressive on social media over politics and many other issues but has she crossed the professional line with her attack on Peggy’s family dynamics? 

Sound off in the comments.

 

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  • JustSayin

    Sounds like a pretty fucked up thing to do to your brother at the funeral of your father, whatever the reasoning behind it.

  • RealitytvJunkie

    There are 2 sides to every story. And that’s pretty fucked up of a so-called doctor to post this. Mauricio’s mother is a nut job and should have her license revoked over this public stunt.

    • Betty

      Many others are backing up her story. She should have her license revoked for ……telling the truth of what she witnessed? I don’t think so.

  • Karoline

    I believe her.

  • shayvoe

    It is very well known that Armenians discriminate against the gay community and many gay Armenians keep their sexual orientation a secret, because they become outcasts to their families. I absolutely believe what she says is true.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Regardless if it’s true or not the “doctor” should have never posted this drama.

      • shayvoe

        I don’t disagree with that, unless they have pretended to be OK with the gay community on the show or to get on the show. Then I could see her speaking out that they are hypocrites. I don’t know what prompted her rant.

        • CNN

          Estella is just looking for her 15 mins. Peggy hasn’t said a word about gays on the show.

          • shayvoe

            Well, a gay man is now her boss…perhaps that is what she is talking about.

          • CNN

            Who’s boss?

          • shayvoe

            Andy is gay and is now Peggy’s boss.

          • Betty

            Andy is her boss. She is not stupid. She won’t say a word to him.

        • the underground train

          Now that I would get. Yet so far Peggy hasn’t said anything about the LGBTQ community.

          • shayvoe

            Yeah…that is why I am curious as to what prompted her rant. The only thing I can think is that she is working for a gay man now that she is a HW, and this woman thinks that is hypercritical.

    • Karoline

      I just read some interesting facts online regarding how gay people are treated in Armenia. I doubt this woman would post such an account of the funeral if it wasn’t true. I believe her.

      • shayvoe

        I do as well.

      • shayvoe

        It is awful…there is much to read online about the way they are treated.

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      I knew those Kardashians were closet homophobes!

      • shayvoe

        Probably…lol.

  • Bryan

    what a mess

    • Clutching My Pearls

      My thoughts exactly.

  • Just My Opinion

    Peggy..karma is a bitch. You think you outsmarted cancer,think again. What goes around comes around !!

  • CNN

    Estella is one to talk when she’s a big Trump supporter. Shut up old lady and stop looking for your 15 mins.

    • shayvoe

      Believe it or not, there are many gay people who are Trump supporters, and I personally know some. It doesn’t mean that they are any less gay or don’t support gay rights.

      • CNN

        That’s insane. People nowadays are crazy.

      • Karoline

        Very intelligent, informed people I might add.

        • delaney

          Oh of course. Why you feel the need to add educated and informed? Shouldn’t need to.

      • carrot

        Yes, I didn’t vote for him but I know very pro gay rights people who did.

        • shayvoe

          I didn’t vote for him either…as a matter of fact, I couldn’t bring myslef to vote for either one…first time since I was of voting age I didn’t vote in the presidential election. I just could not do it.

          • carrot

            I’m a Judge of Elections in a Precinct in Pa that went narrowly for Hillary. I was totally shocked at who actually voted for Trump. Not who we have been told. It’s a small precinct of about 2 thousand voters Trump voters were business owners, small and large. New immigrants.(Drug Co and Computer people) and a lot of our gay community who felt Trump was more gay friendly than Hillary.It was a wild ride and news reports totally missed it.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            I’ll tell you a little secret (as long as you keep it between us squirrelfriends) … the lesbians love Trump.

          • carrot

            Lol, I’ll take it to my grave:)

          • shayvoe

            They did…one huge reason Trump was elected…Hillary’s camp was listening to them too. I was beyond shocked on election night. But, no one was more shocked than Hillary. I was willing to give Trump a chance….I just wish he could stay off of twitter or not tweet about every little thing that offends him, which is just about everything. I also HATE what he did, is doing to Jeff Sessions, who was my senator.

          • carrot

            The thing I want most leaked is General Kelly Ball gagging President Trump and putting boxing gloves on his hands. Saying that, I always want a president to succeed.

          • shayvoe

            I hope Kelly can rein him in, but I don’t think there is a person alive who will be successful in that endeavor. Maybe for a short while, but it won’t last. I think he loves pitting people against each other and watching the carnage. I think he thinks the one who is left standing gets the job…much like on Apprentice.

          • carrot

            You may be right:)

          • delaney

            O yeah Sessions is a great example of racist stupidity succeeding.

          • shayvoe

            You will not find many black people in the state of Alabama who think he is racist. Stop listening to people who are spewing inaccuracies about Sessions for their own political agenda. You don’t have to like his politics, but racist is thrown around way too lightly today.

          • delaney

            I’d appreciate it if you’d refrain from telling me what to do. You have your opinion and I have mine. If you support Sessions with his long well documented history of racism then that’s on you. I seriously object to the political convo on this board. Maybe current politics should be off limits. This is usually a fun place to be.

          • shayvoe

            No one is telling you to join in, you can refrain and not participate if it offends you.

          • delaney

            I already said it offends me. And I’m bowing out now that I’ve had my say. I can’t take anymore alt facts and bigotry on this board. This place was an escape from the daily atrocities damaging our US democracy emanating from this administration of criminals and liars.

          • Karoline

            You can call people bigots and ignorant racists, but you take offense to being “told what to do”? What did shayvoe tell you to do????. Nevermind, this isn’t going anywhere.

          • pasteeler

            That’s a straight up lie. MOST Africans Americans knows for a fact that bigot sessions is a racist klansmen..

          • shayvoe

            More propaganda. I said there are not many black people in ALABAMA, who think he is racist, the people who he actually served as a Senator, served as a US Atty and Atty General. The AA’s he worked with and who worked for him.

            I have known Senator Sessions for many years, beginning with the voter fraud case in Perry County in which my parents were defendants. My differences in policy and ideology with him do not translate to personal malice. He is not a racist. As I have said before, at no time then or now has Jeff Sessions said anything derogatory about my family. He was a prosecutor at the Federal level with a job to do. He was presented with evidence by a local District Attorney that he relied on, and his office presented the case. That’s what a prosecutor does. I believe him when he says that he was simply doing his job. I believe that he is someone with whom I, and others in the civil rights community can work if given the opportunity. I believe that he will listen, as he has in the past, to the concerns of my community. More than most I am very familiar with him. I believe he will be fair in his application of the law and the Constitution; as such I support his nomination to be the next Attorney General of the United States….Albert Turner Jr. — who currently serves as a Perry County commissioner.

            We can both cut and paste all day.

          • pasteeler

            LOL the African Amers down there can stand that bootlicking moron. LOL a bigot supporting a bigot, no surprise here.

          • shayvoe

            So this AA man who wrote this letter is a bigot….mmm K.

          • pasteeler

            Folks who support bigots are no better than the bigots themselves

          • shayvoe

            Explain to me how an AA man can be a bigot.

          • pasteeler

            Any one filled with hatred and ignorance who degrades other races, qualifies as a bigot.

          • shayvoe

            You still have not explained how this AA man, who wrote a letter of support for Sessions, is hate filled, ignorant, and degrades other races…your words.

          • pasteeler

            He’s a self hater, there are many of them around. Like women who voted for a pussy grabber even though he openly admits to molesting women.

          • shayvoe

            LOL….ok. Sounds like a lot of hate and bigotry IS being spewed…right here in this thread…oh… and a LOT of anger and irrational comments.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark
          • pasteeler

            Accusations of racism have dogged Sessions’s career: Actually, they almost derailed it. In 1986, a Senate committee denied Sessions, then a 39-year-old U.S. attorney in Alabama, a federal judgeship. His former colleagues testified Sessions used the n-word and joked about the Ku Klux Klan, saying he thought they were “okay, until he learned that they smoked marijuana.”

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        TY

  • penny 2

    I’d like to hear what Peggy has to say about this. Was he estranged from his father? How could he not know his father was ill if they were communicating?

    • CNN

      All good questions. I need to hear Peggy’s side also. I don’t trust Estella.

  • CNN

    People have been saying Estella is racist and homophobic.

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      I don’t know how racist or homophobic she is, but I do know she’s annoying as F. LoL I can’t with that voice (or botched face).

      • Chi Town Baby

        Omg! Her face looks horrible.

        • wellWellwell

          What I remember about this women is Paul Nassif planning her plastic surgery. Did he do this Botched job on her face?

  • the dudette

    What a silly headline. Without getting into the actual issue, just as a sideline, I know MANY gay Trump supporters, every single one of them has higher education and is very politically informed.
    I also know LGBT right’s advocates, liberals or ‘progressives’ how they call themselves, now, who actively support an ideology that executes homosexuals legally in their countries in public squares and calls for their deaths!
    This is some weird mind-bending Pretzel logic, and people need to wake the heck up.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      What a silly comment.

      • carrot

        Can you explain why it’s a silly comment?

      • the dudette

        Yeah so silly to have a women’s and gay right’s march with a well known terrorist who supports gay lynchings, I agree.

    • Clutching My Pearls

      More posters might take your comment seriously if you didn’t start off by insulting AATT.

      • the dudette

        I happen not to give a shite.

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      PrEaCh GF! As usual, their hypocrisy is staggering.

    • delaney

      I now have a better understanding of how we got to this place; the WHouse becoming a dumpster full of unhinged kleptocrats and Russian collaborators. Thanks for that.

    • delaney

      Assinine Is that an Alex Jones conspiracy theory? You’re on the wrong boards. You’re welcome.

      • the dudette

        Not a conspiracy theory at all. Happening right now all over the US, and tens of thousands of youtube videos to prove it.
        None are as blind as those who refuse to see.

  • Something seems fishy with this whole thing. If Peggy did this shame on her but what is Estella’s motive exposing Peggy seems self serving.

  • debbie

    Its none of this womans business to get involved in a family situation. Those people come from another country with different culture.

    • Karoline

      That is true. Why did she feel she had to get involved?

  • Chloe

    It’s not fair for Peggy or anyone else to judge other cultures and religious beliefs. Peggy has a right to feel however she wants about gays or anyone else. Estella is a big time racist, where’s the outrage there?

    • shayvoe

      Just curious…as I know nothing about her. What makes her racist?

      • Clutching My Pearls

        People on social media that listen to her podcast say Estella is racist.

        • shayvoe

          Thanks….I know nothing about her.

    • the dudette

      What’s your stance on racist cultural & racist religious beliefs? LMAO Let me guess: your 3 braincells would combust.

  • Mental Iceberg 🏇
  • Clutching My Pearls

    Estella is full of shit. She needs to mind her business before Peggy and others start spilling dirt on her.

    • Marsbars09

      And I would love to hear it!

  • wellWellwell

    She’s a Doctor? Doctor of what?

    • Clutching My Pearls

      Psychology of all things.

      • wellWellwell

        Gulp..sheesh! What an odd story, so random. I don’t get what she is trying to do with spreading this family’s messiness.

        • Clutching My Pearls

          I’m wondering the same. She’s very unprofessional to be a psychologist, spreading gossip on social media and exposing people. I would never use her services with behavior like this.

          • wellWellwell

            No way, she sounds like a nut. Thanks for the info.

          • Clutching My Pearls

            You’re very welcome. And I agree, she seems to have some serious issues herself.

          • Marsbars09

            Who knew Mo’s mama was messy?

          • Chi Town Baby

            This is not her first time starting mess. She’s a known shit starter.

        • Marsbars09

          Neither do I.
          Hi Well!

          • wellWellwell

            Hi Mars. Who knows what happened between Peggy & her brother it may not be about this issue. Brothers and sisters argue & make up all the time, she needs to butt out!

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Yeah, I don’t get how she even (allegedly) knows this … like what’s her association with Peggy and Diko?

          • behoro

            Her tweet says she is very good friends with Pol and Patrick so I imagine she got the scoop from them about why Peggy hates them.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Ah, I missed that … I think I stopped reading at the first slam at our President.

          • wellWellwell

            Haha! Eyes glazed over huh..

          • pasteeler

            Doesn’t surprise me that you didn’t feel the need to inform yourself. Question: When did the pussy grabber in chief supporters actually learn how to read?

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark
          • Chi Town Baby

            That admission kills her credibility. A real psychologist would never take sides and make things personal.

          • wellWellwell

            According to the tweet she is friends with the brothers partner? That would be one side of the story. It’s none of her business and not her place to make it public. Sounds like the brothers partner is pissed about something, I don’t think we have the whole story. Maybe he is jealous of Peggy’s garage and all the cars they have.. I am..lol

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            OMG … I’m obsessed with that garage; love the cave-like stone appearance. I freeze frame those scenes. Literally MILLIONS and MILLIONS in freaking automobiles.

          • wellWellwell

            I admit, I stare. This is what we want to see on the OC that has lack luster for the last (how many) seasons? I’m curious if their wealth is really ‘true’

          • Supatall2u

            It was already made public she’s just co-signing Pol’s side of things.

          • RHONJ Fan

            Estella made it public first, then it spread.

          • Supatall2u

            No it was already leaked on Monday by Radaronline

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        No shocker there … it’s common knowledge that most shrinks are fluking loons~ I remember reading somewhere that the suicide rate is staggering in their profession.

        • delaney

          Never mind.

    • Supatall2u

      I was helping her write a book on sexuality – but had to quit when she refused to use new studies on certain chapters. Specifically, penis size. According to the 1950 study she wanted to use, they measured 200 white men and 60 black men to confirm that black males aren’t larger than white males. I asked her if she’d ever been with a black man, she said no, I told her there is a difference and perhaps she should do her own research on the subject. Her specialty is sexual disfunction in relationships. She’s an oxymoron wrapped in cellophan

      • wellWellwell

        OMG! Wow! I must pick my chin up off the floor….smdh! (Not kidding)

  • penny 2

    Her twitter is nasty. Wow

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    Banning crossdressers um, those suffering from gender identity crises from serving in the military (so they can get free hormones and new ta tas) is not “discriminating” against gays and lesbians – one has nothing to do with the other. Incidentally, I know I speak for many of my people who take umbridge with the militant gay movement associating (the overblown tranny) “epidemic” with being gay or lesbian. If they keep up at this rate, it will be LGBTQRLXMAKDWOISA. I’m having a hard time buying that there are now 31 different gender identities (just like Baskin-Robins!) But enough with my soapbox; back to the story at hand … how can a man with a name like DIKo be homophobic?

    • pasteeler

      You speak for no one but ignorant racist bigots. ANYONE serving in the military deserves our Respect because they’re protecting our rights,, even your right to spew such garbage. Who in their right mind will join the military to get free hormones, do you even know how utterly stupid that sounds. Must be a Trump bigot yourself.

      • Karoline

        Racist??? Who? How? AEW didn’t say anything about race. I don’t think you understood the comment. Our military might have other things to do rather than spend time and money on people who are going through a gender Identity crisis. You may absolutely disagree with the post, however that does not mean that AEW is disrespecting anyone in the military, transgender or not, or is a bigot of any sort.

        • pasteeler

          The military spends more on Viagra for men then they do for transgenders.
          AEW is openly ridiculing transgender soldiers which is highly disrespectful and the very definition of bigotry.

          • delaney

            True and the facts prove the costs. So tired of misinformation being repeated like it’s fact. Makes me want to shake ’em and yell WAKE UP! Educate yourself!

          • pasteeler

            Folks are willfully ignorant and blind, now they’re openly spewing their hatred and lies like its the truth. This madness has got to be called out or it will grow and continue.

          • shayvoe

            Sorry…but with your name calling and anger, I don’t think you are the one for the job.

          • delaney

            It’s not your call. Thank goodness.

          • delaney

            AMEN.

          • penny 2

            I researched this and found out the Viagra story is true. Amazing.

          • delaney

            Yup I was stunned about Viagra.

          • penny 2

            I remember when Viagra was covered by medicare and people were pissed birth control wasn’t being covered by insurance but this is amazing.

          • delaney

            IKR. So what- there’s a limp d*ck epidemic? I hadn’t heard of it THANKFULLY.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Big woop … who are you, the fcking tranny police? Spare us your phony outrage.

          • pasteeler

            I’m standing up for our soliders SERVING in our military you ingrate. These folks put their lives on the line so dumb unpatriotic Trump bigots can express their ignorant rants like yourself.

        • shayvoe

          Sorry…you won’t get an answer, because everyone who does not think like this poster, are racists, bigots, self haters, haters and ignorant…. African Americans included. This coming from the compassionate, gentle, loving side.

          • Karoline

            Apparently.

          • delaney

            If someone supports racists and bigots and liars and cheats and Putin then it makes that person an ignorant UnAmerican. Or traitor to our democracy. Take your pick.

          • shayvoe

            You are free to believe whatever you want, and so is everyone else on this thread. What you are not free to do, is run up and down this board attacking everyone who does not think like you, hate like you, name call like you, and be an all around smart ass like you!!

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Trump could wipe Russia off the face of the Earth and you loons would still think he’s taking it the ass from Puddin’. There IS no Russian conspiracy and that’s why there has been not one shred of evidence for the last 7 mos … and everyone knows it; well except you and Maxine Waters … LoL You still haven’t gotten over that Trump won the election fair and square. He out-campaigned and out hustled the old bat. while she was literally collapsing into her limo (with mysterious illnesses) Trump was filling venues with 10-20 thousand people. Like McCain a few years before, Hillary couldn’t fill a high school gymnasium. and people paying attention knew it was over (for her). He also turned formally blue states red and took 2600 counties across the countryto (Crooked) Hillary’s barely 600. I know it’s hard to grasp that the progressive liberal message is dead.

          • Birdie

            PREACH!! I heart your comments.

          • pasteeler

            Anyone, including other African Amers who willingly lies and spews hatred as others are bigots, haters etc. Live with it. Its called the TRUTH.

          • shayvoe

            Your truth…not mine. The AA man you were calling all these names below, does not fit any of your definitions.

          • pasteeler

            I watched that bootlicker at Sessions confirmation hearings. He’s a delusional loon who kissers sessions tail in order to gain favors from him

          • shayvoe

            Your opinion…that does not make it so.

          • delaney

            Hey Pas, Note the above comment was about different truths. More alt right drool. There’s one truth. No alt facts or truths. SMH

      • wellWellwell

        pasteeler, Did someone steal your name and avi? What is wrong with you?
        I get your point and on the ‘other’ site I agree with you on so many points.
        This is different. AEW is no racist or bigot.

      • the dudette

        How the fuck is her comment racist???
        Being transgender is a race now? Are you retarded?

        • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

          This is getting hilarious. First of all, I’m very much a male:-) My crime is being gay AND an (outspoken) Conservative, which I guess riles certain people’s feathers. I forget sometimes that not everyone knows my deal.

          • the dudette

            I’ll wave that rainbow conservative flag with you anyday, my fabulous friend.

          • MissScarletwithaRevolver

            Just catching up on the replys here. Color me a rainbow flag flying Conservative, too. And no amount of sneering and name calling by those who want to divide people into single issue boxes will intimidate me.

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        How about we compromise … Shantay, the one’s currently serving can stay … but the new one’s wanting in … sashay away.

        • pasteeler

          What would a Trump bigot know about compromise?

    • Champagne Hangover

      ^^^This up here. All of it!

    • Evil Queen

      Love u? Preach honey!

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        These straight people get me riled~ …. and it’s always the libs .. ain’t that a kick in the ass? LoLoL

        • pasteeler

          Better a lib than a bigoted traitor nazi sympathizer.

          • the dudette

            You know who sympathised with nazis, you imbecile?
            MUSLIMS!

            There were even Muslim SS commands and Hitler was a great admirer of Islam.

            You are tragically stupid.

    • GirlPlz

      What

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        Wha who huh?

  • Marsbars09

    Estella needed to keep her mouth shut on this one. Now she looks foolish calling out Peggy on her homophobia when Estella worships Trump.
    And why is Estella so intent on outing Peggy?

  • pasteeler

    LOL A supporter of the pussy grabber in chief, an old lady bigot attacking another bigot. These morons will eat their own for some attention.

    • the dudette

      Not like the ‘liberal’ left is eating their own at the moment. Sharia Linda Sarsour pussy march, anyone?

      • pasteeler

        LOL you don’t know what you’re talking about which is no surprise coming from a pussy grabber in chief lover. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your intolerance and hatred of “others’. Get educated then post

        • the dudette

          You have ZERO arguments. Answer me how can ‘progressives’ ally themselves with Linda TERRORIST Sarsour? (Btw, did you know that her surname means cockroach in Arabic?)
          All you do is hysterical ‘ignorant’, ‘get educated’, ‘hating’, Nazi’ shouting. You can not answer a single question, because you are a retard.

          • pasteeler

            Trump compliments terrorists. He sucks Putin’s nasty tail on the regular. If you was soooo concerned about terrorists you would be ranting about that. Retard? LOL you are beyond delusional. seek help quick

  • Yolie

    Where is the proof that Peggy’s actions at the funeral had anything to do with her brother being gay? This could be a family feud that Estella stuck her big nose into. Additionally, it’s Peggy’s right to not support a lifestyle rooted in demonic activities.

    • Chi Town Baby

      Preach!

    • shayvoe

      I was with you until your last sentence, which left me SMDH!!! I love how Christians which I am, pick and choose who to love, who is going to hell and what is demonic. Gay people are born gay, it’s not a lifestyle and God would not create demons. GEEZUS!

      • RHONJ Fan

        God created Judas and Jeffrey Dahmer.

        • shayvoe

          But, God gives us free will, they chose to do horrible things. If a gay person is born gay, they have no choice.

          • RHONJ Fan

            Oh good grief. Gay people are not born gay. There is no scientific proof of that.

          • Supatall2u

            Just like there’s no scientific proof that you’re born straight. When did you make the choice? (crickets)…#byeBecky

          • RHONJ Fan

            You’re an uneducated thug, please don’t respond to my comments.

          • pasteeler

            Talk about uneducated; don’t comment if you don’t want a response.

          • Supatall2u

            Look in a mirror and you’ll see what an uneducated thug looks like. GTFOH with your 1700 bc thinking. You probably believe the world is flat. #byeBecky

          • BigBrothersMother

            The opinion of a psychiatrist that we know well is that it can be either. Some people are born gay and others make a choice. It’s a controversial topic.

          • shayvoe

            There is no definitive proof either way. But when a gay person, actually many gay people, tell me they knew they were different as young as 5, and I had a high school student who used to work for me after school, try to kill himself because he liked boys, and did not want to be gay, that is all the proof I need that it is not a choice.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            It’s not a choice … and I don’t subscribe that it’s “catching” (meaning environmental) either. Personally speaking, I …. oh fck it … this is such a tired conversation – so I’ll spare ya’ll. Thx for your support Shay.

          • shayvoe

            Always!!!! I have gay family members…one who is a Republican and many, many life long gay friends. I will always stand up for what I know to be true. If I needed anything day or night…my gay cousin or a gay friend is who I would call first….they are the best people, the most compassionate people and most generous people I know. It hurts me when people attack them and are so blinded by hate….they are missing out on having a friend who will ALWAYS be there for them, no matter what. And some of us are lucky enough to have them in our family!

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            RNONJ I wasn’t aware you felt this way. But I’m not going to hassle you …. I’ll just say I bet you would like me if we ever met, and I’ll bet I could get you to understand it a little better. But I would like to add this … did you “choose” to be straight? I mean was it like you woke up one morning and came to a fork in the road, and you chose to go straight? Somehow I don’t think you did. Well darlin’, it’s the same way for most gays. But I do know where you’re coming from … and I believe that the the (militant) gay movement itself had created most of the divisiveness and skepticism within so many people.

          • Bluefire

            And nothing shows people are born heterosexual either. So there is no proof scientifically a person is born gay or straight so what does it really.

      • pasteeler

        Christians don’t have hatred and intolerance in their heart. Nor do they support bigots and liars. Check your salvation.

        • shayvoe

          Phuck OFF!!! Check that!!

          • delaney

            Be ” nicer and gentler” are your own preachy words down thread. You’ve shown yourself to be an angry hypocrite. Who resorts to “phuck OFF” when you can’t handle the truth or haven’t entirely memorized Putins butt plug’s, the Fake Prez’s, words of the day. . But I think we already knew that. Lol! Catch up plz.

          • shayvoe

            Weren’t you the one who was so appalled that politics were being discussed on this thread and it was disturbing your delicate sensibilities? Weren’t you the one who said you were bowing out, because you were so offended that politics were being discussed? Yet, here you still are a day later, stirring the pot …SAD IGNORANT HYPOCRITE!!! Just showing two can play the hate filled game you and Pasteeler are playing….and like the special snowflake you think you are, when someone does the same thing to you, that you are doing to them, you are offended and start whining….WAH!!! Now, just for you….a very special PHUCK OFF wrapped in a pretty bow!! How’s that for nicer and gentler, which is how I started out, but it didn’t work with you and Pasteeler. You only understand nasty, hateful, venomous words. Catch that!!

          • delaney

            Try being “nicer and gentler” to make your point. Telling people to “phuck off” isn’t a very nice way to make your point when you’ve lost your way in a discussion. But I forgive you.

          • shayvoe

            Oh, did you think I was trying to be nicer and gentler….that expired yesterday when you and Pasteeler started running up and down this board spewing hate filled diatribes directed at myslef and other posters on this thread. So there is no confusion of my intent, let me make this perfectly clear. I don’t give a shit what you think or have to say….I was done with you yesterday….so tell it to someone who cares. And so there is no misunderstanding of what I think of you…FUCK OFF!!!

          • delaney

            No need to (over) explain yourself. You make yourself crystal clear. You might want to include yourself when mentioning hate-filled diatribes. Maybe time to stop now? It’s disturbing how pissed you are. Like I said I forgive you. It’s going to be okay.

          • shayvoe

            Bless your heart….you really are quite slow.

      • pasteeler

        LOL folks who follow Christ do know speak the way you do. They love the TRUTH and stand up for what’s good, right and just. Real Christians can see Jesus in others because he’s is the God of compassion, goodness and kindness. You need to check your salvation, ask God to release His forgiveness to you and ask Him to teach you His wisdom. You are on the wrong path.

        • shayvoe

          And folks who follow Christ do not speak the way you do…so what is your point??

    • delaney

      Demonic activities? Wow. Where’s your head at. And that’s not a question. It’s a statement.

    • Supatall2u

      It was all about Pol being gay. She’s a homophobic hag and Pol is better without her. She’s horrible to him. But you’re a “special” type of homophobic “Christian” bully. #byeBecky

      • RHONJ Fan

        Everyone is entitled to feel how they want. You’re the bully. Leave Yolie alone.

    • Evil Queen

      Rooted on Demonic activities?!😁 that’s funny!

  • Karoline

    Why did you have to bring the politics into it? Now there are ridiculous names being thrown at commenters.

  • Supatall2u

    I know Estella. She’s a nice woman but when it comes to Trump she’s a blind idiot when it comes to this administration and her undying love and support for him. I had to walk away from her during the election.

  • Wishmich

    I don’t like Patrick. He’s weird and a big mouth. Just MY OPINION. I like Pol, tho. Perhaps there’s a family dynamic that no one knows about….including Dr. No Lips. Nobody’s biz, really.

  • GirlPlz

    How can you allegedly be pro-gay and pro-Trimp. It makes no sense. It casts doubt on her claims about Peggy and her qualifications and experience as a psychologist. She seems crazy

    • the dudette

      It makes far more sense than to be a ‘llberal’ ,yet march with those who like to slice little girl’ clits, dress women like garbage bags, and hurls gays off tall buildings.

      • GirlPlz

        What

        • the dudette

          Yeah, I know , too much for your single celled brain? There there dear…

          • RHONJ Fan

            I’m flagging all your comments insulting posters. Hopefully, you’ll get booted soon so keep it up.

          • the dudette

            LMAO – oh I’m so scared of you powerful comment flaggers…

          • GirlPlz

            No. You can’t just explain it. Have to resort to name-calling instead of being able to defend it.
            Conservatives support the sexual abuse of young male and children and all the other criminal behavior by priests. They’re also very ant-gay marriage and anti-gay adoption. Trump and the GOP support Russia, a country that is currently involved in the mass-murder of gay people. Conservatives also support Christian fundamentalist countries that mutilate female genitalia. The GOP also have neo-Nazis in the White House, who slaughtered homosexuals.

          • the dudette

            WTF are you on? Liberals ally themselves with an entire ideology that supports child brides, and legal pedophilia!!
            An entire ‘religion’ that WORSHIPS a pedophile!
            In most Muslim countries middle aged men are allowed to marry 12 year old girls, in some the legal marrying age of girls is as low as 8.

            P.s.: Bill Clinton used to bang underage girls on Epstein’s yacht, where’s your march against that?

            You’re a libtard.

          • GirlPlz

            Sure Jan

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Ok .. that was funny.

          • pasteeler

            I called out Clinton too.. But what you didn’t mention is that tRUMP is being sued by those 13 years old girls for raping them on Epstein’s yacht.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Hahaha … your sarcasm and dry wit is cracking me up~! Let’s continue with these simpletons loons tomorrow. Nite’ love!

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      Gurl please, there are lots of us gays who are also Republican/Conservative. Haven’t you ever heard of Log Cabin Republicans? It IS allowed … expand your horizons~!

      • GirlPlz

        Conservative policy is very anti-gay. Anti-gay marriage, anti-gay adoption etc. Conservatives are also aligned with Christians and evangelicals who are very anti-gay

        • the dudette

          Google Hillary Clinton gay marriage 2004 – ignorance is bliss….

          • GirlPlz

            Google “deflection” or “whataboutism” – ignorance is bliss.

          • GirlPlz

            Also google “but opinions can change, he has evolved, he is not the same person he was before” – ahhh the famous lines Trump supporters love to throw up to defend his constant flip-flopping and hypocrisy on anything he has ever said.

          • the dudette

            ‘opinions can change’ LMAO- yeah, sure they can, where is her video in which she states that she is pro gay marriage, you imbecile?

            There is none!

        • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

          It’s not that black & white … party affiliation is based on many many issues. You’re painting an entire party (not to mention an entire class of people and most of the country) with one broad stroke. The (twisted) ideologies of a few (who happen to be of the Republican party) don’t represent everyone. Just like not ALL libs are uneducated welfare recipients who wallow in victimhood and gov’t dependency. I don’t mean to be rude, but you sound very fresh-out-of-college Liberal (smack) Talking Point 1o1 …. are you sure you should be engaging in adult political conversations? Like said earlier, expand your horizons, do some homework, and get back to us in about 15 yrs.

      • GirlPlz

        Also – just because there are “gay conservatives” does not mean Trump/Conservatives/GOP are pro-gay. They can still be moronic, self-loathing or ridiculous. A lot of them are in the closet anyway, having sex with boys or men in toilets. Or there’s that Trump campaign worker – married with kids – who was recently caught having gay sex with a minor. Or that hate-mongering nutjob Milo that advocates and approves pedophilia

      • pasteeler

        There’s some self hating gay people that support the pussy grabber in chief but the vast majority don’t. Get educated with facts then post.

        • MidwestMiddie

          I agree.

          • Oh Snarky Me

            You agree with this hate filled post labeling many of your fellow posters on this site as stupid bigots? Sad

          • MidwestMiddie

            I agree with the one comment.

        • MissScarletwithaRevolver

          If by “self hating gay people” you mean intelligent and successful small business owners and entrepreneurs who know how devastating the last eight years have been to independent small business then of course I agree with you. Speaking of educating one’s self……

          • pasteeler

            Anyone who supports that liar and pussy grabber in chief is a self hater unless you are a Russian loving white supremacist. Trump has trashed women, gay folks, African Americans, Muslims, Mexicans and Jews. If any of these folks support that lowdown, dirty bigot, then yes they are haters of themselves.

            You can’t be too intelligent, if you support that ignorant moron in chief who’s being accused of raping thirteen year old girls

      • MidwestMiddie

        Log Cabin GOPers rarely make national news except at Election Time….even then it is minimal.
        The LCR oppose Trump’s Transgender Military Ban yet that hasn’t been mentioned in recent headlines. The Organization needs better PR if it is ever going to be taken seriously.

        • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

          It’s pretty much a dead organization. Chapters have closed almost everywhere:-( We considered jump starting ours here in St. Louis.

          • MidwestMiddie

            The organization, Log Cabin Republicans, refused to endorse Trump when he got the GOP nomination and a few southern chapters were upset and broke away on their own. There isn’t much holding the group together.
            My cousin was once a member for fiscal reasons. He has since left the GOP to become a very active Democrat…… much to my delight. : )

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            That’s too bad … many gays indeed give in to the harassment and/or threat of isolation, especially the youngin’s.

          • MidwestMiddie

            The GOP lost a highly educated, thoughtful, fun, socially active and wealthy man. ***My husband was once a GOPer too and he became a Democrat. Our family has always debated politics ……the good and bad on all sides. It works for us.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            My family used to, but now (like everyone else in society) it’s such a hot button issue that no one ever does … not even during this historical election. For me, sometimes issues are so important, NOT discussing/debating current hot issues is like ignoring the big pink elephant in the room. But then again, that is my family’s mantra … never confront and just sweep under the rug. Bunch a fcking wimps … oops did I say that out loud?

          • MidwestMiddie

            Why yes you did sort of say it out loud …………….. : )

        • pasteeler

          56 retired Generals & Admirals sent a letter to @realDonaldTrump re his transgender military announcement. Plenty are speaking about tRump’s attack on our US soliders

    • pasteeler

      Don’t expect sense out of Trump and his bigots. Their ignorance and hatred is astounding.

      • GirlPlz

        They deliberately troll. What a depressing shit life. Imagine getting up every day posting ignorant hateful comments and propaganda that you know is not true.

    • MissScarletwithaRevolver

      News flash. Homosexuality and transgenderism are not the same thing. There is no ban on homosexuals in the military. Transgenders face huge psychological and medical difficulties and expenses and the military should not divert precious resources to pay for that. Sorry.

      • pasteeler

        The military pays much more for men to get a hard on. So don’t come with that lame excuse that its about money, its about ignorance, hatred and bigotry.

        “The Pentagon spends 5 times more on Viagra than transgender services. Although Trump cited high costs associated with transgender service members in his rationale for barring them for military service, the Pentagon spends nearly five times more on Viagra than it does on providing medical services for transgender troops.

        A 2016 study by the Rand Corporation found the maximum annual medical costs for transgender services would be around $8.4 million. By comparison, the military spent $84 million on erectile dysfunction medications such as Viagra and Cialis in 2014, the Military Times reported.’ Like I said, get educated.

        • MissScarletwithaRevolver

          I have an idea. Let the Clinton Foundation use some of that money they got from the Russians after Clinton allowed them to buy 20% of the US uranium supply to pay for sex changes and therapy. Go cry in your soup. You lost.

          • pasteeler

            You have no ideas or you would look at your pussy grabber in chief’s”charity’ stealing from the disabled.
            “Eric Trump Foundation of, among other things, shifting money that was raised for cancer into fees for golf courses owned by his father, President Donald Trump.

            Forbes also alleged that Eric Trump misled donors as to the recipients of certain funds, claiming that at least $500,000 that was earmarked for children’s cancer research was, in fact, diverted to other Trump-related entities.”

          • MissScarletwithaRevolver

            Yes, yes- lots of “alleging” going on because nothing seems to stick. The pay for uranium play is established fact- they don’t even deny it. And the Clinton Foundation “charitable” funds payed for Chelsea’s $1Million wedding but not a peep from hypocrites. And so it goes. We won’t agree. Enjoy your rage filled tantrum.

          • pasteeler

            LOL CLINTON is not the US PRES, that Russian loving lying inhumane pussy grabber is. You can’t defend that moron so you deflect to a now private citizen who’s been investigated on the daily and the entire repug party could find NOTHING illegal.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Really hung up on the pu$$y grabbing thing aren’t you. BTW, some of us gay men are confused ….how does one grab a pu$$y? Is it like picking up a bowling ball?

          • pasteeler

            Deplorables are hilarious.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            I don’t think we will ever agree (politically)… but that’s OK. Maybe you can find a way to release some anger and hatred, and open up your heart to other viewpoints? We’re a two party system and take turns running the show … may as well accept and deal with it. Being miserable, combative, and hostile during the opposing party’s entire term is not productive, and quite frankly … it’s not a very pretty look. Debating can be fun and interesting, but I say we take a break, chill out a bit, and come back later in more calm, collective, and rational moods! Besides, unless you’re lucky enough to be retired, I know we all busy lives that are waiting on us … Have a great day kids … it’s Summer~!

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            LoL @ Forbes. Why don’t you quote something Chris Mathews or anything that CNN or Huffington Post wrote as well. This is your problem … you’re getting your MISinformation from fake and/or heavily biased “news” sources. In short, your brainwashed girl! We need to get you an exorcism STAT~

          • pasteeler

            LOL Forbes is a CONSERVATIVE magazine. But I forgive you for not knowing, because just like leader, you’re ignorant and proud of it.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Yes sweetie, and MethNBC and the Counterfeit News Network along with virtually every rag in the country isn’t biased … and college professors by in large aren’t liberal, and the entire cesspool of the entertainment industry loves and embraces Conservatism …. *cues the Twilight Zone music.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Bam~!

      • All About The Tea

        Aren’t transgender people part of the LBGT community?

        • pasteeler

          yes that’s what the T stands for.

        • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

          That’s what a lot of many gays (outside NY and CA) aren’t real keen on. Gender Identify confusion is obviously a disorder … being Gay or Lesbian is not.

          • Elizabeth Fisher

            Thank you.

        • Oh Snarky Me

          No, people are people and not to be lumped into some group because you decided they should be.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Oh~! You’re screen name is befitting:-) Love it.

          • All About The Tea

            I didn’t decide anything so enough with the attitude. AATT did not create LBGT and if you only came here today to be rude and fight, please move onto another thread.

          • Oh Snarky Me

            Yes having a different opinion from you is rude. Oy!

          • All About The Tea

            No. You’re just rude period. That’s why a few of your comments were deleted. Oy!

          • RealitytvJunkie

            Lmao. Some people just have no respect then expect their rude opinions to be respected. Looks like Oh Snarky Me is looking to be banned lol.

          • RealitytvJunkie

            Hostile much? Your comment makes no sense. How is AATT lumping people into a group when LBGT existed forever? The people in LBGT are labeling themselves but AATT is lumping?.

      • GirlPlz

        NEWS FLASH: No one said they’re the same thing.
        Further, the health care costs required by transgenders people is MINUSCULE compared to the amount they spend on Viagra. The military should not divert precious resources to pay for that. It’s also minuscule compared to the amount Trump has already wasted on travel expenses. There aren’t even that many trans people in the military, and if they’re willing to die for their country, they should get whatever they need and are already doing more than, say, people posting comments on a website

  • MissScarletwithaRevolver

    I can understand Estella sticking up for her dear friend who must have been very hurt. Supporting Trump does not make one a bigot or anythingphobic. Why must some insist upon the notion that individuals are incapable of non-group think? Most intelligent people are not one issue voters.

    It’s strange though how the very same crowd horrified by a Christian Armenian’s objection to homosexuality is silent when Muslims torture, burn alive or toss homosexuals off the roofs of tall buildings. Weird, that….. But hey, Sharia law means no interest bank and credit card loans so that must explain the difference.

    • pasteeler

      Anyone who supports a bigot is endorsing the same hatred and intolerance the actually bigot is. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

      That pussy grabber in chief spews hatred at not only Mexicans and Muslims, but African Americans, women and gold star military families..

      • MissScarletwithaRevolver

        Physician, heal thyself….Pasteeler calling anyone other than yourself a hater is just ridiculous. You are thundering around this forum like a 2 year old having a tantrum calling everyone who disagrees with you nasty names. You are becoming a real bore. Go away.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Bullshit! Save your illogical rhetoric. Estella is full of shit and she can’t have it both ways. Trump is anti LBGT and Estella supports Trump, while condemning Peggy for *allegedly* being homophobic. Meanwhile, the “Mexican” phycologist is a racist, who believes Mexicans are rapist.

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        His quote was “some” (ILLEGAL immigrants) from Mexico … which is a fact. No one is anti-immigration (certainly not a native New Yorker whose home has an incredible view of the Statue of Liberty and an immigrant wife!). I understand it was a campaign ‘gotcha’ thing for his opponent, but the election is over and still misquoting him two yrs. later is rather odd.

        • Oh Snarky Me

          You can’t reason with people consumed by irrational hate, but I applaud you for trying. It’s so ironic to see people attack other posters by screaming hateful names at them “because Trump is a hater and anyone who supports him is a @$!# hater!!”

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            IKR? It’s rather odd and does speak volumes. SImilarly, I was called a drunk whore because i (used to) side with Brandi. I was called a dago thug because I sympathized with Tre. I was called white trash from the Midwest because I dared to call out LVP on her bitchery. I’ve been called demonic and destined to burn in hell because I’m gay, and now I’m a self-loathing closet case because I’m a gay Conservative. Now that I think about it, why am I here? LoLoL … I guess I get that people love to vent online and don’t always mean everything they’re saying, and because I know that deep down we’re ALL the same.

          • Oh Snarky Me

            I can hate Brandy without hating you because you like her–mainly because I’m no longer in the 3rd grade. I’m just floored by people who can’t deal with someone having a different opinion.

          • MissScarletwithaRevolver

            You’ve been spanked Snarky

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Yup … *bends over … may I have another please?

          • MissScarletwithaRevolver

            A bunch of my posts removed as well. Oh well it’s her board I guess, Meanwhile all of the name calling against Trump supporters remain. Got it. They still lost. LOL!

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Wow really? Annoying when that happens. It’s not a real common occurrence here; one of the things I love about this site. In fact, if I were the HBIC here, I’m not sure I’d be as patient at they are. But the real shit disturbers never tend to stick around … we have our ways:-) *EG

          • MissScarletwithaRevolver

            I agree, just never have appreciated a double standard- but it’s not my playground. What’s *EG?

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Evil grin:-)

          • MissScarletwithaRevolver

            Ahh!

          • RealitytvJunkie

            I agree Enigma. The mod is beyond patient with some of the shit stirrers, who go out of their way to insult the site then can’t figure out why their comments are deleted or they get banned. It’s always, “I didn’t do nothing,” or “I shared a different opinion blah blah…” when they know damn well they were rude AF and shitted all over AATT. How the fuck you gonna shit on someone’s turf and expect you have the right to. I just don’t get some people.

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            I must be making progress in my own churney’… because very little gets to me anymore. I’m certainly capable of getting my dander up when someone comes for me out of nowhere, but interestingly, it’s not usually for the reasons they intended. Once you get that there are indeed just really weird people out there , ya look just as stupid by engaging with them. In short, you just have to train yourself to not take the bait.

          • Oh Snarky Me

            Its funny yet pathetic.

          • RealitytvJunkie

            Yet many of your pro Trump comments are still here. May I ask, are you and Snarky smoking crack?

          • Oh Snarky Me

            Amazing how if you agree with the author then you can attack other posters and say whatever you want, but if you fail to echo the author’s opinion then your posts will be deleted. SMDH

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            I’ve had stuff deleted … but there’s never really been any rhyme or reason to it (at least not in my mind), so I just kind always assumed it was like an auto or technical thing , like maybe I used the wrong word.

          • RealitytvJunkie

            Many comments disagree with the author and they’re not deleted. Stop making shit up to start trouble.

          • CNN

            Here you are attacking posters while whining about posters being attacked.🤔

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      Such a great point Miss Scarlet, and while we’re calling out phony outrage hypocrisy, since when is the left so passionate about serving in the military? We all know these militant types despise the military, it’s people, and everything the military stands for.

      • MidwestMiddie

        Whoa ……….. A COMPLETE FALSEHOOD!

        • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

          Note I said “militant types” (progressive loons). I wouldn’t paint all Democrats (like yourself) as such:-) But you must admit, your party has been hijacked by loons rioters and looters “protesters” who are giving a bad name to “old school Dems”. IMO, the silence (not denouncing them) is deafening.

          • MidwestMiddie

            “………….since when is the left so passionate about serving in the
            military?”
            —- WE SERVE AND HAVE SERVED WITHOUT FAIL – ALWAYS!

        • Mental Iceberg 🏇

          Holy smokes do I hate wading into this shit show.

          I just have to say one thing.

          My son proudly serves in the U.S. Navy. He’s been stationed for the last 6 years at Yokosuka, Japan, and currently serves aboard the USS Blue Ridge. People start throwning around the military and as a military mom, whose son is actually there…as well as other young lads and ladies serving our country…

          This whole fucking thread. Jesus fucking Christ.

          Carry on. I just needed to get that off my chest. Peace out, guys.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Military Moms – Rock! : )
            All The Best to your son and his shipmates. As a Nation, we
            are grateful to them and indebted to them.

            I was in the Air Force and my family has a long history of military service in all branches with members receiving numerous Honors, Commendations for Bravery and Service Medals. I have my father’s Military Medals, Letters and Photos.

          • Mental Iceberg 🏇

            Thanks for your and your family’s service.

            The sacrifice is real and hard, no matter what side of the isle people sit on.

          • Mental Iceberg 🏇

            For the record, my rant wasn’t directed to you 😉 just everyone throwing around the military without knowing anything about what it’s like to love your country enough to serve and sacrifice wihout bringing service member politics into it 🙂

          • MidwestMiddie

            I understood your comment. : )

          • CNN

            You do realize everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And it’s up to each of us to not take the opinions of others personally and lash out.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Who is questioning opinion entitlement and who is lashing out?
            Mental Iceberg hasn’t and I haven’t.

    • Wimbledonwoman

      I live in London UK and I have many Muslim mates and they have not tortured , burned or thrown anyone off any roof, several are gay. , I am an atheist. Just calm it down. Take a deep breath. Your comments actually made me smile . I am off to the Notting Hill carnival tomorrow ( its in London Uk) And I assure you I will be sharing the scarlet rhetoric. Trust me you will be getting a lot of laughs . 😘😘😘😘😘😘

  • MissScarletwithaRevolver

    So if this wedding was in December does that mean that the season had already wrapped or is this likely to become a story line? Just curious if anyone knows.

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