EXCLUSIVE: #SouthernCharm Thomas Ravenel & Kathryn Dennis Reach Agreement In Custody Battle — Get Details HERE!

Posted on Jun 29 2017 - 5:04pm by Editor

Case closed!

Thomas Ravenel and Kathryn Dennis’ custody battle is finally over, AllAboutTheTea.com can exclusively reveal!

A Charleston source very close to the action confirmed to AllAboutTheTea.com that the Southern Charm parents have finally put their custody ordeal behind them — and struck a custody agreement this week.

On June 28, after spending 10 minutes in court, each party along with Kathryn’s mother, Allison Dennis, all signed a final custody agreement. The agreement was witnessed and notarized on Wednesday. 

Dennis’ mother’s involvement in the case was a matter of legality. She was listed on court documents as a back up petitioner for custody of the children on Kathryn’s behalf.

To make the agreement legally binding, the parties have a court date tomorrow (June 30), for a final hearing to have the agreement recorded with the Charleston County Family Court.

However, Thomas and Kathryn’s mother do not have to appear in court on June 30 for the final hearing because they signed affidavits not to appear. On the other hand, Kathryn’s appearance is mandatory because she did not sign the affidavit. A local source exclusively tells AllAboutTheTea.com.

Kathryn could have signed an affidavit to not appear but she will be in court tomorrow, because she wants her picture taken by the press.” The source alleges. 

As reported, Dennis, 25, and Ravenel, 54, have been fighting over Kensie, 3, and St. Julien, 1, since May 2016, after Thomas was barred from fathering his children by Kathryn for 14 weeks.

The custody agreement criteria set forth, signed by both parents stipulate: 

  • Thomas retains legal custodial rights of the two children, Kensington and St. Julien
  • Joint custody is possible IF Kathryn is able to pass a future drug test
  • The judge denied Kathryn’s request to have Thomas pay her legal fees
  • No drug use will be permitted. This includes, no abuse of prescribed drugs
  • If Kathryn can pass a future drug test, the day of the test, a mediation meeting will be held to discuss how joint custody will proceed. If she passes a drug test, the process for Dennis to regain joint custody will commence in phases: phase 1, phase 2, phase 3, phase 4 (See attached custody agreement).
  • Custody will be split 50/50 unsupervised for both parents, with each parent alternating a week of custody. 

Read custody order below:

It’s been a long expensive road for the Southern Charm parents but the June 30th final recording will confirm the custody agreement, in the eyes of the state of South Carolina.

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  • CNN

    Outstanding job AATT. Makes me happy you guys scooped everyone else. This is a victory for Thomas but the possibility of those kids being around Kathryn unsupervised doesn’t sit well with me. She and her fans are not stable.

  • Supatall2u

    This is good news for both parties, especially the children.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      This is horrible news. The court just signed those kids death certificates.

    • Chickpea16

      Remember she lost all custody before due to drugging and child neglect.

      • TNC

        Her fans don’t care. They see her as the poor innocent victim and always will. They always make excuses for her and it’s never her fault.

        • Nunna Yobiz

          The plague of the “victim mentality”. (heavy sigh)

      • Supatall2u

        She’s a young mother dealing with an elderly alcoholic father who manipulates her. But she’s back with her kids, that’s the important part of the story.

  • RealitytvJunkie

    This is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, Thomas remains with full custody but if Kathryn passes a drug test, she’ll be allowed around the precious little angels. She has zero motherly instincts and skills. She’s has caused so much irreversible damage to the kids already.

    • RHONJ Fan

      RealitytvJunkie well said. We’re always on the same page.

  • ss

    I hope she gets joint custody.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I hope she doesn’t. She will kill those kids. If Not physically, definitely mentally.

      • Plastic_Police

        The way Thomas has screwed with her head, it’s no wonder she went off the rails. The facts remain, she is extremely young and he is an old pig with a lot of money. And he’s on TV saying he’d get back together with her, then trashing her in the press. How would you react? I’m not saying she didn’t screw up, but he’s just as bad if not worse, and she deserves a chance.

  • Misha

    Let’s see if the trick can pass a future drug test. I won’t hold my breath.

  • TartLemon

    It won’t take long until Kathryn fails a drug test. She still blames a ‘disease’ for her CHOICES. I still don’t want to see Kathryn back ruining SC for me.

    • MidwestMiddie

      X 100

    • Chickpea16

      Yes, she stated last week Whitney was part of her downfall. She has learned nothing.

  • JustSayin

    I’m a little confused by the wording of the article, is it saying that they will have 50/50 physical custody but Thomas will retain 100% legal custody? Or will the 50/50 be for both physical and legal?

    • RHONJ Fan

      Just reread the article slowly. The article states, Thomas currently has 100% custody but the agreement stipulates that IF Kathryn can pass a future drug test and abide by measures in the agreement, she can gain joint custody.

      • JustSayin

        I know but it doesn’t differentiate between physical and legal custody.

        • RHONJ Fan

          Yes, it does. It says 50/50 custody. It’s clearly stated.

          • JustSayin

            Lol I almost feel like you’re fucking with me…”50/50 custody” doesn’t tell you whether the custody being discussed is physical or legal.

            It’s possible to split physical custody (where the child lives and stays) 50/50 while one parent retains 100% legal custody (decision making power such as schooling, health care etc).

          • RHONJ Fan

            I feel like you fuck with a lot of people when I read your comments but thats neither here or there lol.

  • shayvoe

    Thanks you AATT for the scoop…as always, the truth stops here. I am concerned about KD getting joint custody at some point in the future. With no drug tests administered at some point, that is a dangerous scenario for those kids. You didn’t mention visitation…will she have visitation and will it will be supervised? If she does have visitation, how often does she get them and for how long?

    • JustSayin

      If she passes the future drug test, sounds like it will be unsupervised for a week at a time…

      • shayvoe

        Right…but I was asking about going forward….up to and until she passes drug tests.

        • RHONJ Fan

          Good question. The way, I read it, Thomas retains 100% custody with no visits until she can pass a test. Then split custody would considered.

          • shayvoe

            Since it wasn’t mentioned, that is the way I take it too.

        • JustSayin

          Oh then I think RHONJ Fan is right and it will continue on as it was until if/when she passes this future drug test.

          • shayvoe

            I took it that way too, but thought she would get a supervised visitation here or there.

    • RHONJ Fan

      I have been waiting anxiously for you to show up. I sincerely love your Southern Charm insight. I’m also deeply concerned about the thought of Kathryn being around those kids with no supervision. The thought troubles me after seeing her Snapchat video with the kids double fisting coca cola cans.

      • shayvoe

        Thank you!! That is alarming to me as well. If no drug tests are required, after a certain point, that is an open invitation for her to start drugging again. I mean, I could see if she was clean for say 2/3/4 years, but not just if she passes a drug test…It doesn’t make sense to me.

        • RHONJ Fan

          What you posted here is an astute evaluation. One passed drug test (probably a false negative anyway) does not constitute a fully sober addict. One good thing is when custody is 50/50 in the state of SC, no child support is paid to either party.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Thanks for the info regarding child support payment. Excellent!

          • RHONJ Fan

            Hi MidwestMiddie. You’re welcome. What are your thoughts on the latest breaking development?

          • MidwestMiddie

            Kathryn may claim this aa a win for her corner but as you stated
            shared custody doesn’t include child support money. IMO, she
            has always been after Thomas’s money and she used their
            children as her bargaining chips. So where is her win, really?
            Also, I doubt she will ever pass a drug test or do enough to
            get 50-50 custody. I hope I’m correct. These children deserve
            a good life with their father and hopefully someday a loving stepmother as well.

          • RHONJ Fan

            Great analysis as usual. I agree with you on Kathryn’s real motives being financial gain. And now that the pomp and circumstance of court press is coming to an end, Kathryn is free to have a free for all with the unsavories of Charleston. Her kids were never her priority, so she may dive deeper into self indulging and never pass a drug test. I don’t wish the troubled young lady any ill will, I just feel she’s not fit to parent.

          • MidwestMiddie

            100% Agreement.
            Also, posters here are not wishing Kathryn any harm or distress.
            We are evaluating what we’ve seen & read and are giving
            our opinions. It seems most people are first and foremost
            concerned about the children. So far she hasn’t proven
            herself to be a loving and stable person for them.
            Things may change but in the meantime ……..no one
            should hold their breath.

          • shayvoe

            I can see her, IF she ever regains 50% custody, telling Thomas she has no money to buy groceries to feed the kids. Or renting some dive where he would never want his kids staying, so he will pay for a better place for her to live. She is going to work it and milk it for all she can and Thomas will cave, because he love those kids. He will be paying all their medical and educational costs, because she will never be able to afford it.

          • TNC

            That’s exactly what I was thinking too Shay. She’s going to try and get everything she can out of him as that’s why she had the kids in the first place and Thomas loves them too much to let them go without. I’m seriously worried about her getting them back unsupervised. Nothing good is going to come from that.

          • shayvoe

            Hi TNC! It is a scary thought for sure and I am having a hard time understanding this ruling. Doesn’t make good sense to me.

          • Chickpea16

            Especially when she has a history of not passing and showing up for drug tests.

          • shayvoe

            Exactly. Giving her 50/50 is an open invitation to start using drugs again. And this time there will be no nanny to take care of the kids, unless Thomas continues to pay for one, because he fears not having one with her when she has the kids.

          • TNC

            It doesn’t make sense to me either so I wonder if there’s other stuff going on that we don’t know about?? She should be required to keep submitting drug tests and not just have one she has to pass. Maybe/hopefully she’ll still have to be supervised when she has the kids and they’re just wording it like they are to let her “save face”?

          • MidwestMiddie

            I agree with you. Kathryn would try whatever tricks she could use
            to get money from Thomas. However, he can and hopefully would set up the ground rules. He could choose the apartment, a modest and clean flat. He could arrange for groceries to be delivered to Kathryn
            and the children & billed to him. He could hire a bi-weekly cleaning service to clean the apartment before the children arrive for their week with Kathryn. He doesn’t have to give her a credit card or cash
            and he never should. EVER!

          • shayvoe

            I hope that is the way it goes. Thomas does seem to be smart where his money is concerned and doesn’t give it away freely.

          • Chickpea16

            She’s done it before.

          • RHONJ Fan

            Hopefully, Thomas doesn’t fall for her games and takes her back to court for full and final custody.

        • Chickpea16

          Hopefully the court will still require monthly drug tests.

          • shayvoe

            I really hope so…for at least a year minimum.

        • Nunna Yobiz

          KD is fully in the system now. She will be ordered many tests and classes and home visits and such from here on out. Considering she hasn’t dealt with the reality of any of this yet, you can pretty much bet that she will be failing to meet these requirements, keeping the children safer in the long run.

    • aemish

      The article says the future goal is joint custody — definitely will NOT happen overnight. She has to pass certain steps one, two and three; and within each of those steps might be multiple courses of action (one would think; then again since when does common sense and judicial sense automatically match!)

      • shayvoe

        True….I was just wondering if she will have some sort of visitation now. It would seem likely that she would still at least get supervised visitation, but it didn’t mention that.

  • RHONJ Fan

    Where’s Bryan and TNC? You’re both needed in here.

    • TNC

      Hey RHONJ!! Thank you so much for the shout out!! I had trouble getting on here the last few days. I fear for the kids being around Kathryn unsupervised, that’s really scary! I wonder what made that a possibility??

      • Nunna Yobiz

        Wonder if KDs continued drug use and addled mind/violent and anti-social behaviour have anything to do with it. She should be so ashamed of herself, but psychos feel no shame, no matter what they do or who they hurt.

  • TartLemon

    So, this adult woman had to have Mommie cosign so she could see her own children? Something MAJOR still up, but I don’t know what. Is Thomas paying any child support?

    • Plastic_Police

      It’s SOP in cases like this for a relative to be available as a guardian and/or supervisor.

      • Nunna Yobiz

        “Cases like this”. Where the parent is found to be a potential threat to the childrens safety if left with them unsupervised. In THIS case, KD.
        This is what you defend, PP.

  • Champagne Hangover

    This mangy, perpetually in heat alley cat needs to be spayed and kept away from the kittens she tried to eat.

    • Plastic_Police

      What about the old pedophile that knocked her up twice and as recently as May was all over her? She may have failed a few drug tests, but don’t forget this guy is a convicted drug trafficker. The only reason she’s getting shit on in the press is because he has a ton of cash behind him. If he was a broke peasant like her, he probably wouldn’t have gotten custody either.

      • shayvoe

        He was never a drug traffiker or a pedopile. You are really reaching here and your love for KD has clearly rendered you devoid of all common sense and working brain cells.

        • Plastic_Police

          He was convicted and served time on federal drug charges you idiot. It wasn’t for running a red light. This is what irritates me, people like you who don’t do any due diligence – you just believe whatever you read on a fucking blog. Duhhhh, don’t tell anyone you’re that stupid…oh wait…too late…

          I don’t have a ‘love’ for KD, but she’s clearly being railroaded by this prick and his money. I repeat – if he was just a broke normal person like her, it’s unlikely he’d have been given custody either, especially considering his FEDERAL DRUG CHARGES…gotdamn!

          • shayvoe

            MORON…do you know what drug trafficking is? That IS NOT what he was convicted of. And you threw out he is a pedophile. What due diligence proved that? Trust and believe I know more about these two and this situation than you ever will….FACT!

          • Plastic_Police

            Ok dipshit – COCAINE DISTRIBUTION charges, same thing in the eyes of the law, hence him doing time for it. As for my pedophile comment, well, borderline, she was barely legal and he preyed on her. I don’t care if she pursued him, there are laws in the country that put people in jail for dicking with minors, even if the minor was all on board. It’s NOT far off, she was barely an adult and he is an old man.

          • shayvoe

            I can’t converse with someone who is so thoroughly clueless about the law and Ravenel’s charges.

            “Ravenel in September pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy with intent to distribute cocaine. Authorities say he used and shared the drug but did not sell it, and after-hour parties were common.”

          • Plastic_Police

            So you’re quoting ‘conspiracy to distribute’ but you’re arguing with me that he wasn’t? It’s obvious your mother was a drinker…did she also do a lot of drugs? Drink the koolaid moron…

          • Nunna Yobiz

            Do you get paid for your drivel, or just bored whilst awaiting the SSD money?

          • Jackie

            Boom!

          • TNC

            She was in her twenties when they met and screwed three cast members in a week to get on the show. Kathryn was a thirsty bitch desperate to get on tv and screwed her way on. You are disturbed to call him a pedophile and act like she was “barely legal”. Kathryn was the one chasing these men and only went after the ones with money.

          • Plastic_Police

            So all the men she slept with are just victims, is that it? Those poor poor pitiful men, being fucked by this beautiful chick in her early twenties. What is the world coming to. And speaking of thirsty bitches, why isn’t this board shredding Blandon to pieces? That bitch is so thirsty there’s dust coming out her holes…

          • shayvoe

            When she screws 3 men in the cast within a week, gets pregnant with 2 kids with one of them and fails drug tests while having custody, and does drugs while pregnant …we will!!!

          • Chickpea16

            IMO and one fake pregnancy scare to get on the show and play guess who the father is for a storyline.

          • Plastic_Police

            Ok here’s a clue bat – just because you see it on TV every week doesn’t mean it’s realtime…are you that deeply stupid? The amount of time that elapses between episodes and seasons is not ‘every Tuesday’ like it is on your TV.

          • Chickpea16

            IMO, Well at least Landon didn’t sleep with the cast and have 2 kids to be on a reality show.

          • Plastic_Police

            No kids, I’ll give you that…

          • Plastic_Police

            Didn’t the two kids come AFTER the first season?

          • Nunna Yobiz

            You got it almost right, PP. It’s the poor poor children being fucked over by the chick. She voluntarily gave them the crappiest mother possible. Conceived them as pawns, and even whilst inciting “chess”, couldn’t even handle checkers in the end. KD=bottom line basic. Prayers for the children.

          • Chickpea16

            She was 21 when they met. Also TR was the 2nd politician she dated that went to prison. She was no nun.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            Keep ’em comin’, PP! “Laugh therapy” is real and beneficial, and your posts are adding YEARS to my long life! TY!

          • Plastic_Police

            Tell ya what, why don’t you let T-pig do to your daughter what he did to KD. Let’s see how well that turns out, and how fast your empty head spins. I bet you have a poster of T-rav on your wall, all blowed up and printed out on your dot matrix, amirite? Go back to your trailer.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            Losers lose it so darn fast, it’s funny to behold. TY for the LOLz, PP!

          • Chickpea16

            So foster care is the answer? He paid his price to society. No he is no Prince Charming but SHE picked him to father her children.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            If he was “broke”, there would be no children. & for you to use “normal” and “her” (KD) in the same sentence shows how off balance you are, yourself.
            Why do you care more about his potentially trumped up old charges rather than KD still has to pass current drug tests just to say “howdy” to her own children, with her mother still babysitting ALL of them when together, no less?

      • TNC

        Are you serious?? If you are then you don’t know what you’re talking about. Kathryn is not the poor innocent victim her fans so desperately want her to be. You do realize that the court case was all started because Kathryn withheld the children from Thomas when he wanted to coparent. He was paying her rent, providing a nanny, agreed to their educational and medical expenses as well as a monthly stipend but Kathryn wanted more. Kathryn feels entitled to easy street and doesn’t feel like she should have to provide for her kids. Where is Kathryn’s responsibility in all of this?

        • MidwestMiddie

          Who let the dog out? YIKES!

        • Plastic_Police

          I’m aware of all of that. And I haven’t once said she is a perfect angel who does no wrong. She isn’t. But do you think Thomas is perfect? Where’s HIS accountability? Not once has he admitted to messing with a very young girl’s mind. Just saying, if you have a daughter, would you let Thomas take a stab at her? Probably not…even if your daughter is a promiscuous whore, she deserves a chance to redeem herself.

          • Chickpea16

            And so does he but you keep bringing up his old legal issues.

          • Plastic_Police

            So do you! She has been cleared to have a certain level of access to her children, with potential to increase that. The judge is saying ‘you get a chance to make it right after your past mistakes’. Why don’t you people get that? And I bet NOBODY on this blog has a perfect past that they haven’t been allowed to make up for. You all make me sick.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            Yeah. You’re right, PP. I just don’t understand why habitual human abusers of multi generations just can’t seem to catch a break amongst a group of folks who haven’t had to answer to judges for more “chances’. How heartless of all of us who put the best interests of our children and loved ones first, and never had to be the victim of such cultural biases. How wonderful that the noble, misunderstood KD “has been cleared to have a certain level of access to her children.” Here, silly me who raised my own and never had to face a judge over my mistreatment of them just doesn’t get it, and makes you sick.
            Honey, you came here sick. JMO, and not a Dr.

          • TNC

            That’s a really good point and Thomas has proven why he deserves a second chance and Kathryn hasn’t.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            So, your issue is really with her parents letting him “take a stab at her”? It was by far her first “stabbing”, PP. By the time TRav “stabbed” her, she was a seasoned pro at it, not some sacrificial virgin!

          • Jackie

            Kathryn is an adult. He broke up with her because of the age difference and she was the one who kept trying to convince him that the age doesn’t matter.

            She was old enough to have sex with the majority of the cast in a week or 2.

            Her own grandmother was telling her to go after him and have his baby. Bottom line is that Kathryn thought that if she had his baby he would marry her and she would have a southern life of leisure. She even said that on camera.

      • Champagne Hangover

        Give it a rest. She’s an unfit mother, a narcissist and a drug addict. Thomas may be pond scum, but he sees to it those kids are cared for, unlike their appallingly neglectful so called ‘mother’. She’s set set a new low that not even Thomas can touch.

        • Plastic_Police

          Um…guess you don’t know him that well…

      • Chickpea16

        That’s why KD went for him cause of the money and publicity.

        Thomas at this point only wants to protect his children.

        • Plastic_Police

          Fair enough on the publicity thing, but he also signed up for the show. So why is it just a negative against her? Play fair.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            He wasn’t openly playing crew slut with all of the women like she was with all of the men, for starters…
            She was spreading for fame?$?Air time? Play fair.

      • Nunna Yobiz

        “Pedophile”? Really? You are one desperate puppy, KD…er…PP…
        & good for the children that TRav ISN’T a “broke peasant”, as it is going to cost big $$$ over the years to deal with the damage KD has caused them.
        Be honest, PP. If TRav was a “broke peasant”, the gold digger you’re defending wouldn’t have targeted him. As a fully grown, non virginal by choice woman, BTW. She was only playin’ crew slut with the crew o’ SC then. The money me. Playin’ politics. Now, she’s be forced to lower her price. SO “intelligent” she be. Blech.

    • RHONJ Fan

      This comment is poetry in motion. Simple beautiful.

  • TNC

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Kathryn eventually gets unsupervised 50/50 custody but at some point just fades out of the kids lives. She only wants photo ops with them and for people to think that she’s the victim but when filming isn’t going on or once the show eventually ends and she’s not getting attention she might just decide she doesn’t want the responsibility because it’s not getting her the attention she wants. A lot of times people only want things they can’t have but once they get it and there’s no more fighting or drama going on then one person decides they’re “over it.”

    • shayvoe

      That wouldn’t surprise me at all. The only way I think that might not happen would be pressure from her family.

      • RHONJ Fan

        Family pressure and their name might be the only factors, this is true.

      • Nunna Yobiz

        Her family may just let her fade, and work out things with TRav. It’s not uncommon when dealing with abusers to just work around them and aid them in staying gone, for the good of the children.
        Having no mother beats a violent control freak scorned, esp. when altered on ?able substances. Their instability is exhausting.

    • RHONJ Fan

      You’ve got Kathryn’s personality pegged perfectly. Once the cameras fade to black and she’s not receiving a Bravo paycheck, so will her adoration for her kids (ornaments) will also dissipate.

  • Plastic_Police

    As for those texts about the audiologist and ‘what she did to Saint’ when she was pregnant, it would help Thomas’ credibility if some court documents were made public to back up his texts. Otherwise, anyone who just believes that shit at face value is a moron. I can text anyone I want and say anything I want, doesn’t make it real or true. Maybe the boy has a touch of the syndrome, it runs in his family. Who’s to say he didn’t cause both of the kids to be damaged, he’s a drinking drugging pig.

    • RHONJ Fan

      I believe once the case is over, court records will be made pubic and people like you will have egg on your face at all the vile and destructive things Kathryn did to her kids.

      • Plastic_Police

        I’m just saying, lets see the proof of it. It could very well be true, but I’m not a tarded lemming like you just stupidly following the blogs without needing even a grain of proof.

        • RHONJ Fan

          Well, you clearly know nothing about this blog. Even Bravo TV uses AAtT as a Southern Charm source and has featured this blog on the show.

          • Plastic_Police

            I did’t say this blog in particular, I meant in general. I’ve seen the ‘texts’ on many sites…give me your cell and I will text you that you beat your children and caused them to go deaf. Then lets put that on the internet. It MUST be true if I texted you that right?

          • RHONJ Fan

            I understand what you’re trying to communicate, that’s why I only stick to this blog for reality tv news and abc news for world affairs.

        • Nunna Yobiz

          There are films of her smoking whilst pregnant. Is that not in utero abuse? It is in my understanding of motherhood and fetal development. I doubt she took a bunch of selfies of herself getting high…just a lot of herself after.

    • shayvoe

      You, honey, have lost your mind. KD, find another pastime.

      • Bryan

        I see dollar bills and stripper poles in her future

        • TNC

          So glad you’re here Bryan!! Plastic says she’s ready for you!!! Lol

          • Bryan

            I already blocked it everyone really should just do the same like the HW’s these clowns hate to be ignored, I saw it’s spew!! LOL

        • shayvoe

          Yep…she won’t have the money to raise those kids even 50% of the time, if and when she gets custody.

          • Plastic_Police

            So now you have crystal balls? How do you know whether or not she’ll have money to raise her kids? Wierder things have happened and underdogs have come out on top. the good thing about KD is she’s intelligent, along with being very beautiful. Unlike the crew of WW rejects on this board…

          • Nunna Yobiz

            Yeah…she has proven herself SO f’ing “intelligent”…mwahahahaha….and, not all folk find nasty lookin’ doped out human abusers “beautiful”.
            I think you got a bad batch along the way, PP. Might want to seek some help with your head.

    • TNC

      You do realize your precious Kathryn was drinking and doing drugs while she was pregnant. The only “syndrome” Saint would have is fetal alcohol syndrome caused by your precious Kathryn.

      • Plastic_Police

        Wow, people who hate hate hard. I don’t ‘love’ KD nor is she my precious. I’m just saying, she’s being crucified by people like you. She definitely screwed up, I’m not saying she didn’t. I’m just saying that it’s really stupid to just read a blog or a random text and take it at face value. And he’s been tried, convicted and served time on federal drug charges. He’s getting a second chance – why shouldn’t she?

        • TNC

          Because his drug charges happened before he ever became a parent and don’t factor into the equation. If we were all judged on the things we did before having kids then most people would have their kids taken away. Oh and there’s video evidence of her drinking while pregnant with Saint and text messages between her and her dealer where she talks about doing drugstore while she’s pregnant with Saint. She has failed numerous drug tests for which there is proof. Don’t come on here attacking people who have followed this case for a long time and act like we don’t know what we’re talking about because I assure you, we do.

          • Plastic_Police

            I’m not disputing anything she’s done. Have you seen me dispute anything? No. I have merely stated that he is no angel himself, and also stated that it’s really stupid to just read a text that mentions an audiologist and assume she did something to mess with the kid’s hearing. Prove it or stop making the allegations. He’s a drunk, and not a responsible parent either – he has 19 year old nannies raising his kids and ALSO is a press whore. There’s nothing virtuous about either of them. If she did something to physically harm her children, I’ll eat my tampon, but if she did, it’s unlikely any court would be considering giving her ANY type of custody at all.

          • TNC

            No one is talking about his text messages yet you keep harping on them when no one is referring to them. The 19 year old is the nanny’s daughter, not the sole care provider.

          • Plastic_Police

            I’m just SAYING, that yesterdays stuff about the texts and allegations of those texts, shouldn’t be taken at face value. If someone digs up some proof that she did something to physically harm the children, i already said I’d eat my tampon. You’re mistaking me as someone who blindly supports KD and it’s not the case. I just would hate if I ended up being shredded to death because someone sent ME a nasty text…christ I’d already be in prison for life if all the shit I’ve been texted was true, and vice versa to anyone I send texts to. You girls need to take your midol and simmer down.

          • TNC

            NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM YESTERDAY!!! You are the only one talking about them while we are discussing all of the past evidence that proves Kathryn to be unfit you’re still blabbing on about something that no one is even referring to. This is the adult table here, not the kids table so once and for all you need to realize none of us are going based off of the text messages from the other day. You seem awfully obsessed with eating your tampon as this is the second time you’ve mentioned it. No one cares about your nasty tampons. I’m sure you snack on them all the time but again here at the adult table, that’s not something we do.

          • Plastic_Police

            I’m talking about the cumulative effect of all the stuff that has been said. Mayhap I’m a bit fixated on the text messages, but here’s the thing. That was the news yesterday along with all these headlines that they are being hauled into court, not able to reach and agreement…bla bla bla. But here we are today and an agreement has been hammered out. A court of law has decided that she will possibly regain custody of her children, and has already been granted considerable access to them. Yet you people here are trying to burn her at the stake because somehow, because you watch Bravo, you KNOW better than a judge? Pffft….

          • shayvoe

            Why are you picking and choosing which stories you want to believe are true here? You beleive this article, but not the others? The ones that may favor KD are true, but the ones that paint her in a bad light aren’t? How convenient!

          • Plastic_Police

            I take BOTH SIDES equally. He is complicit in ALL of this. If you could get your fat googly eyes out of the stars for a minute and do what I said – picture YOUR daughter in KD’s shoes, I think you’d have an epiphany of sorts.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            If any daughter of mine behaved as KD had, she would have been into professional aid long before she got kicked out of school for drug abuse. & if she chose to bang a bunch of monied dudes for ??? , and chose to drug up her child in utero, SHE’D be the one having an epiphany, as KD should have had, months if not years ago.
            KD’s mother still has to vouch for her, well past time. Glad there aren’t more daughters out there like her, as, IMO, there are too many already.

          • Chickpea16

            Stipulation is if she passes a drug test. Then she has three phases of hoops to jump through. Plus her mother is co signing to babysit her. Not a done deal.

          • Nunna Yobiz

            No…you’d be dead. Go eat that tampon and get back in a few days. GL!
            & the word is “women”.

          • shayvoe

            You are a nasty piece of work….yuck!! And you accuse others of living in a trailer park.

          • aemish

            LOL @ the tampon line.. hilarious 〷◠‿◠〷

        • RHONJ Fan

          Why is the truth, already published in court documents considered hating. TNC is not “hating,” she’s educating you with facts. And as for comparing Kathryn and Thomas — his charges happened over a decade ago, prior to becoming a parent. Meanwhile Kathryn’s hardcore drug use occurred last year (2016) while the kids where in KD’s care. Those scenarios are not comparable.

          • Plastic_Police

            Yes, and before she was even 25 years old. He doesn’t get a pass because he was convicted of drug dealing just because it was ‘a long time ago’. If he didn’t want to deal with a young immature girl that hadn’t had a chance to mature yet, he should have stuck it in that old sea hag Pat.

          • shayvoe

            HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF DRUG DEALING!! What about that do you not get??!!

          • TNC

            Apparently this one doesn’t comprehend facts. It’s like dealing with a small child and even when we try to break it down Barney style for them they still don’t understand.

          • Plastic_Police

            What was he convicted of and served time for then? Parking tickets? God I really AM stupid aren’t I, to not take the word of a 400 pound welly running the world from her trailer…you GO girl!

          • TNC

            You don’t understand what drug trafficking charges are. Shayvoe has already posted what it was he went to prison for. If you’re too stupid to know the difference between his charge and a drug trafficker then there isn’t anything I can do to help you.

          • Plastic_Police

            Who cares, first time offenders don’t get 10 months for getting caught with a joint or a bump at a party. This guy has DUIs and probably all sorts of other shit going on that he’s managed to buy his way out of. I can’t believe all you bleeding hearts here thing this guy’s shit don’t stank…it DOES…

          • Chickpea16

            Kathryn has some mug shots too for DUI. We have never said he is perfect but seems to be the only parent that is trying to protect his kids. Kathryn can’t even put a crying Kensie in a car seat because it upsets her too much. How about soothing your kid and acting like a mother? Thomas has three children IMO.

          • shayvoe

            LOL…so original…is that all you got child?

          • Bryan

            Sock Puppets maybe?

          • TNC

            Sadly, I don’t think even that would help. This one seems even dumber than the rest of them.

          • Bryan

            aren’t most of them LOL

          • shayvoe

            She follows the Kardashians…what more can I say. Convinced this is KD or one of her hillbilly kin.

          • TNC

            The stupidity is strong with this one.

          • Bryan

            to come here and behave this way it has to be

          • Chickpea16

            Agree. He was not a drug dealer. Gave some out at his house party. He paid his price. I think he has been keeping HER out of jail.

          • Plastic_Police

            So his was sentenced to 10 months because what….that’s what everyone gets for passing out a line at a house party? Nope…

          • RHONJ Fan

            Before 25? As in 24 years old? She tested positive for coke and meth in 2016 when she was 24. She was a full grown adult with TWO kids. What mother leaves her kids to go do drugs?

          • Bryan

            One who hopefully will never get any kind of custody of them

          • RHONJ Fan

            Bryan! Thank goodness you’re here. We have a troll on our turf.

          • Bryan

            I saw, just block it now, don’t even mess with it

          • TNC

            Boom!!!

          • Plastic_Police

            What respectable southern gentleman bangs a 24 year old and knocks her up twice, then simultaneously seduces and destroys in the press?

          • Reality Buffy

            She pursued Thomas.

          • Chickpea16

            So what she is 25 y/o. Old enough to vote, drink, drive, join the military, not that young. Men can get taken in by women too. Like she said holding up a Birkin bag “they play checkers, I play chess.” Such young girl innocence. Did you notice her filthy nails on the show?

          • Plastic_Police

            I did notice that actually, but what, a person’s character is defined by their nails? I am religious about my mani/pedi but even I have an off day. I shudder to think what would happen if I was judged just by that…

            And yes she is old enough to drink vote drive etc. but it’s relative. I’m old as the hills now and when I was her age, I used to think I knew WTF was going on…looking back I realize that I was just TOO YOUNG to comprehend what I was doing and what was going on around me. S’all I’m really saying…my son’s dad was twice my age and he did a real number on me…hindsight, growth, maturity, REDEMPTION…all part of the equation…

          • Nunna Yobiz

            Ahhh…projection! THAT explains your stance. You got used and abused by an older dude, and now you put all younger gals with older men in the same “stupid” catagory that you were in.
            You just may not.understand how manipulative the reptilian minded can be, of any gender and any age.
            KD is not a young you.
            How can one “redeem” themselves in this realm, when they have done damage to their children because the “highs” were more important? This time of proving herself has passed, and she has failed, as I’m sure she’ll fail repeatedly because, to her, the party is more important. Prayers for the well being of the children. Too bad a stranger cares more than their own mother.

          • shayvoe

            Bingo…when I saw that post, it said it all for me.

    • Chickpea16

      So is she! Admitted drugs and alcohol.

    • Jackie

      You can’t get “a touch of the [downs] syndrome”. Either you have it or you don’t”. But you can get “a touch of fetal alcohol syndrome”.

  • TNC

    After reading comments by a certain poster it seems we have a Kathryn loving troll in our midst. Nothing is Kathryn’s fault because she’s soooooo young and everything is Thomas’ fault. We’re not supposed to pay attention to the fact that Kathryn used drugs prior to ever meeting Thomas and how hard it is, especially in the south for a mother to lose custody. Pay no attention to that because Thomas is the big bad wolf and Kathryn has no personal responsibility for anything because she’s soooooooo young!! Let’s all set our common sense aside for the Kathryn lover on here!

    • RHONJ Fan

      “Soooooo young!” Where is Bryan when we need him. The troll sounds very familiar and not fooling anyone. You have to be a complete dunce and morally corrupt to support Kathryn Dennis.

      • Plastic_Police

        Who’s this Bryan asshole everyone is talking about? I’ll have him on stumps in seconds, bring him on.

        • RHONJ Fan

          How dare you disrespect a long time and highly respected poster like Bryan. You sound like a jealous miserable troll with a crater face. You’re a nobody around here. You’re on our turf and we will not have you troll and disparage our regulars.

          • Plastic_Police

            Your ‘turf’? WTF is this, Grease?

          • aemish

            #Word

        • TNC

          Bwahahaha!!! Trust us, you couldn’t handle Bryan.

          • RHONJ Fan

            Bryan would eat plastic alive lol

          • Plastic_Police

            Let the eating begin…oh wait, I have a vagina…that’s unpalatable to Bryan…

          • Plastic_Police

            Bwwahahaha maybe I AM Bryan and just bored and fuckin with ya…

          • RHONJ Fan

            Hold on buddy, Bryan does not play games like this. And what’s your beef with Bryan, this is starting to sound very personal.

          • Bryan

            Thank you, that is why I blocked it, its just not worth the energy!

          • RHONJ Fan

            Good move. I suspect our troll visitor is from the KD worship site, and stumbled over here to stir up drama. I will always have your back because in my book, you’re a friend.

          • Bryan

            Thank you and I yours, and rest here who employ common sense, as we have seen the facts have been presented and obviously this person doesn’t care, they just want to come here and stir up trouble, You and the others don’t let it annoy you anymore, its not worth you’re time.

          • Plastic_Police

            Thanks for your support!

          • Plastic_Police

            Oops shit wrong ID….

          • Bryan

            I just blocked this clown, I have neither the time nor the energy nor the inclination to mess with this. Whatever it is and I suggest the rest of you do the same. Who or whatever it is, its not worth it, if it wants to worship the Copper Concubine, I am sure it can find like minded sites where to do so…..

            out of sight , out of mnd, it can spew to the heavens and no one will hear it., just block it

          • RHONJ Fan

            Well said, Bryan. Glad you could join us.

          • Bryan

            Thanks ,I just saw the story and wanted to read how it went, I am not surprised the mother of CC is involved, she can’t handle any of this alone..

          • Plastic_Police

            Ya know Bryan, when we came up with the term Copper Concubine, it was one of the best days of our life!

          • RHONJ Fan

            Stop trolling Bryan, you idiot. I’m reporting your comments now.

          • Plastic_Police

            How can I stop trolling myself?

          • TNC

            You could go away!!

          • Bryan

            I can’t see them , but it sounds like this person should be flagged

          • RHONJ Fan

            I’m not surprised either. Kathryn seems incapable of managing day-to-day, much less a complex custody battle. But its really sad considering the mother has cancer. Kathryn has no sympathy for her loved ones.

          • Bryan

            Oh what a big ugly mess

          • Wraithchild

            It’s all about HER! The only thing she should care about are her kids!! Not her pic getting in the press! How in the hell can her mom take care of them?

          • Pink23

            Kratty has NO FUCKING IDEA how to be a mother. God bless those babies and I really really hope they are ok. In the meantime Scarlet Muffinhead is not relegated to Sesamie Street anymore… !!!! She’s free, y’all!! Beware of all red sloths who may cross your way, requesting payment for services imagined, but definitely not provided.

          • Chickpea16

            Got that right.

          • Bryan

            =)

        • aemish

          He ain’t that speshal — and neither are posters that need some sort of leader imo

        • Nunna Yobiz

          Egomaniacal blowhard alert!

    • Plastic_Police

      And we have a bunch of wet-snappered trailer trash here that thing it’s a one sided situation. Nope, Thomas never did drugs, didn’t do time, didn’t screw with someone OVER HALF HIS AGE. That’s all made up. It’s not about loving KD, I think she fucked up bigtime. I just think she deserves a little bit of support in a town where it’s all about the Ravenel money. He got a second chance, she deserves one too.

      • TNC

        Read my below post about Thomas doing drugs BEFORE he had kids. No one thinks Thomas is perfect but all of Kathryn’s choices were made while she was pregnant and after. She didn’t just get caught using drugs once or twice. She doesn’t care about her kids because if she did she wouldn’t still be blaming her problems on everyone else and she wouldn’t have tried to use her kids as pawns for more money.

      • RealitytvJunkie

        GTFOH. You’re probably the president of the ginger crackhead fan club.

        • Bryan

          okay “Ginger crackhead fan club” made me laugh !!!! LOL

          • RealitytvJunkie

            Bryan! Thank you. I thought you had me blocked. Sorry if I ever offended you previously.

          • Bryan

            No I didn’t I checked my list you weren’t among the annoyees, I just missed your posts, I’m getting old =)

      • Reality Buffy

        Kathryn pursued Thomas she wasn’t innocent.

        • Rebecca Allen

          Exactly…when she was talking to Craig last season about why Whitney hated her. She said, “Thomas was the one I really wanted and I knew if I showed up with Whitney it would make him jealous”. She knew exactly what she was doing…DIGGING FOR GOLD in ol’ T Rav’s pockets!

      • Nunna Yobiz

        She had more than one “second chance” to choose being a proper, loving mother to her children over being a using, abusing, druggie slut, and has taken non of them so far. Everyone, including her FOO, will be better off if she WOULD have taken her “second chances”.
        Now that this issue has been legally mediated, and she “lost”, I wonder how long before she leaves for what she considers “greener pastures”? Her plan failed, and she has no use for the pawns…er…children…anymore.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Spot on. You are not preaching nothing but pure facts.

  • pixntrix

    Do we really have to attack other commenters for their opinions. This sites isn’t like other sites that do that. Please keep it classy and respect each other

  • aemish

    Good for them.. kids need both parents. He served his time, now she is serving hers. Everyone deserves a chance to learn from their mistakes.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Kids do not need both parents in their life. Especially when one parent is a danger to their health.

      • aemish

        Maybe you should send T-Rav an email and he will listen to your stellar advice *snicker

      • Thank you!

      • Rochelle013

        BOOM

    • Plastic_Police

      Finally, someone with some sense! Apparently adults DO read these boards after all!

    • Nunna Yobiz

      For her and her childrens sakes, I sure hope this will be the thing that makes KD get her head out of her own keister and learn from her mistakes. Mistakes that have caused damages to her own children.

      • aemish

        I second that emotion..

  • shayvoe

    Hey guys….lets all ignore the troll and not respond. They are looking for attention and if no one responds, they will get tired of talking to themselves and scram. I was guilty of playing into it too 🙁

    • Bryan

      Yes, Ignore it just block them, then you don’t even have to see what it is saying!

      • shayvoe

        What did you eat good tonight Bry? Did you cook?

        • Bryan

          I haven’t had anything yet, I going to go out with a friend to dinner, I think we are going to go to “Five Guys” and see what the fuss is all about.

          • JustSayin

            I had to check them out after that viral video lol

          • Bryan

            What was the video, what were they doing?

          • JustSayin

            The guy was just talking about how good the burger was but someone put it to music and remixed it lol

            That was the first time I heard the phrase “going HAAM” lol

          • aemish

            Ha, love the satire! :o)

          • shayvoe

            Had Jambalaya from one of the only cajun restaurants we have here. The owners are from New Orleans and it was delish. I make it myslef, but theirs is so good, why make it when I can buy it.

          • Bryan

            Oh that sounds good!!!

          • shayvoe

            It was!! Enjoy 5 Guys…have never been.

          • aemish

            I need more jambalaya in my life!! Wonder if I can find some on Grubhub…

          • shayvoe

            Maybe….it was so freaking good. I lived in New Orleans most of my life, and still miss the food so much. I was in heaven when these guys opened this restaurant. They moved here after Katrina, and even though I can cook cajun food and did until they opened, I don’t anymore. Too easy to pick up food to go from them, or when crawfish are in season to go there and have them.

          • aemish

            The only way I could convince my daughter to go to her eye exam tomorrow was to print out the coupon for Popeye’s new cheddar biscuits she saw on tv.. this will the closest to Cajun I’ll have had in eons! (lol) Why do I always forget about it?? I always remember Indian.. I always remember Chinese.. Arabic.. Italian… times to start eating cuisines closer to home again! :p

          • shayvoe

            Love Popeye’s, but even the Popeye’s here is not as good as New Orleans.

          • aemish

            Heck naw! How could it be??

          • Preach! NO is the home of Popeyes!

            Hi Ms. Shay! ❤︎

          • shayvoe

            Hi Doc!! Love that chicken from Popeye’s…in NOLA that is 😉

          • Birdie

            5 Guys is SCRUMPTIOUS.

          • aemish

            Bobby Flay’s Burger Palace is awesome too.. wish they had one down here closer to home

            I like how the 5 Guys have all the whole potatoes out 🙂

  • Mrs.K

    The cheek of her wanting Thomas to pay for HER legal fees when she is the druggie and useless parent!

    • aemish

      I was thinking that too! They were never married so she had no legal claim to his assets

    • The nerve of Kathryn but its just like her to add insult to injury and try to dig in Thomas’s pockets.

    • TNC

      It’s so laughable that she wanted him to pay her fees because she’s the one that caused him to bring the courts in to the situation by withholding the kids from him.

      • And even more laughable that she ran up lawyer fees in the 5 figure range, thinking she could win this battle with coke in her veins.

        • aemish

          Ya but you can’t fight a $10,000 a month legal team (per T-Rav season finale) with a, what did he expect her to get? A $1,000 a month legal rep? The *only* thing that made me wonder if she would get even a partial reimbursement for that was because their finances were so lopsided and sometimes the Court will take that into consideration. It appears her absences and missed deadlines and just basic “FU” attitude proved to be her own demise. Little wonder there!

          • TNC

            I know their finances aren’t equal but Kathryn is the one that got this whole court proceeding going when she withheld the children. Thomas was communicating with attorneys and making offers that she was denying. He was paying her rent, providing a nanny, he agreed to pay all medical and educational expenses, as well as a monthly stipend but she still wouldn’t agree to that so that’s why all of this got started and she should be responsible for her own legal fees.

          • aemish

            She is definitely learning the hard way now — and by her OWN design

          • If Kathryn was smart she would have accepted Thomas’ $4,100 a month offer and avoid this whole legal mess but God makes no mistakes. And through her own ignorance and greed, the lives of the kids were saved.

          • aemish

            Zero argument there

          • TNC

            Exactly!! You know she’s gotta be kicking herself now for being so stupid as to turn down what so many single moms would be so grateful to get. She truly thought she was going to get the keys to his fortune through the kids.

          • aemish

            It kinda reminds me of that whole Mel Gibson baby mama blackmail situation. He offered her $15 million, but that wasn’t good enough, and she wound up in bankruptcy

          • Why is this happening to us?

            True GREED!

      • aemish

        She sure did!! It was a build up for me, but that is THE moment she soured in my book

    • Chickpea16

      Remember she is a YOUNG victim and has been mistreated by everyone. IMO, one sick pup. Would like to know what is required for the three phases?

      • aemish

        I know I would.. Enquiring minds want to know, Chickpea!

      • Bryan

        So innocent and YOUNG!!!!!!, a Vestal Virgin!!!!

  • I have mixed emotions on this custody agreement. While their battle has come to an end in the court room, the war still wages on in the real lives of the kids and the parents. Kathryn has caused a lifetime of emotional, physical and mental pain in her children’s lives. And the thought of Kensie and Saint having to endure Kathryn for the rest of their lives is akin to sending them to death row. Kathryn poses a serious threat to their development and once they become adolescents, the embarrassment and ridicule they’ll face because of the sins of their mother. Kathryn is literally the town whore, who fucks the flock of Charleston. Kensie growing up with knowledge her mother is a whore is a painful realization for any child. Hopefully, by the time they become adolescents, Kathryn is locked up in the penitentiary or insane asylum.

    • aemish

      I feel like as long as she keeps her nose clean and straightens up her life these toddlers will be just fine. Scandals and society families go together like peanut butter and jelly. They have the resources to insulate themselves from any permanent damage and will do so — likely even laugh about it at dinner parties later in life.

      • I don’t think you quite grasp the totality of the situation. Kathryn’s issues are more far reaching than occasional crack smoking or heroin use (which is never casual btw).

        • aemish

          Did the Court find that she was guilty of those charges? I remember from court reporting school that you use capital C for court when referring to a judge in particular and that findings were things that were found to be proven by a preponderance of the evidence and no longer mere allegations. All I’ve seen online is texts and documents from T’s team he alleges. I mean, she alleges that they both frequently partook in the use of ‘Molly’ (ecstasy). Are we to take that as Bible truth too?

          I actually believe the Molly stuff, but.. js..

          • I’m not going to go back and forth with you because I know you’ve read every Southern Charm blog published on this site and I know you’re well aware that court record showed Kathryn was found with cocaine, opiates and weed in her system. I also know that you read the blog pertaining to her psych eval. Look, we’re all free to support whomever we want but please don’t pretend that you’re not aware of these facts when I’ve witnessed you commenting on said blogs. I have no issue engaging in healthy discourse but I will not entertain feign ignorance.

          • aemish

            I wasn’t aware she was found with cocaine.. I truly wasn’t.. I thought it was marijuana and prescriptions, Seussie!! Girl Scouts Honor!!

            Is it a FULL MOON tonight or something?? wth! (((((hugs)))))

          • Must be a full moon in your neck of the woods because you commented throughout the entire cocaine, opiates and weed blog. Hugs right back at ya! 😘

          • aemish

            Ya I remember the prescription opiates and weed stuff! I need to back up clearly if the cocaine stuff was proven.. mea culpa, Seussie!

          • aemish

            Feeling embarrassed I just searched and all I can find on this site is ALLEGED cocaine.. so.. I really don’t understand why we are all fighting amongst each other about THEIR personal problems. I’ve always looked forward to and enjoyed chatting with you, Seussie.. hope nothing has changed over something so silly about reality tv strangers!

            They dang sure ain’t fighting about us!

          • Bryan

            Well said.

          • Thanks Bry! ❤︎ How the heck are ya?

          • Bryan

            Good and you’re self?

          • TNC

            Boom!!!

          • Thanks TNC! 🙂

          • TNC

            😀😀😀

          • Pink23

            Yes!!!!

          • RHONJ Fan

            Spot on.

      • MBB14

        I agree and would add that a reality tv show doesnt help for sure. Too many folks in your business.

  • Contessa Bel Raven

    On to KD and TRAV: I hope that as part of the custody agreement there is still to be random testing on both. Simply passing 1 test doesn’t seem to be enough protection for those babies. If they consistently pass then it shows that both sides have truly changed and stepped up to the plate to go to bat for their children. I know TRAV has consistently passed but it has to be both of them in order for rifts to heal and successful co-parenting to occur. Thomas is no saint (pun not intended) but he truly seems to have stepped up in order to be a real father to his children. I wish for KD to acknowledge her mistakes instead of pointing fingers and making excuses. She needs to decide being with her children is worth doing whatever it takes to stay clean. She is an adult and needs to start acting like one. She needs to get help for her addictions and possible mental illness. The children need to be safe when with her. TRAV needs to find an age appropriate woman and retire his “sexy” pants (& mom jeans). They both have issues to work on within themselves to be the best parent they can be to the children.

    • shayvoe

      Great points!

      • Contessa Bel Raven

        Thanks Shay!

    • aemish

      Excellent post. I mean T-Rav is longer in the tooth and more motivated to parent than aspiring “socialite” KD (*snicker.. ugggh!) but his own kids will only resent him later if he tries to bar them from any relationship with her at all — particularly if she does grow and mend her ways

    • 3DaizeeMom

      To your (excellent) points…If every nasty tidbit ;leaked is true about KD then how on earth could any custody agreement been reached with her having ANY access to her children? Not defending her by any stretch just curious about the two sides and where the truth really is…That being stated I feel sorry for these kids as they were created during a reality show and both parents are complete narcissists.

      • aemish

        At least all the loving, doting grandparents on both sides are there to help keep everything grounded as well.. you can tell T’s mom was sooo open to bonding with KD at that fundraiser thing on the pier when he was campaigning but KD stupidly pulled a Barfenny and turned her nose up just like B did with Jason’s parents smh… that said, mess that she is, her parents are loving quality too.. no alcohol in the house, prayers before meals.. I have to wonder if her behavior is a bit of a ‘preacher’s daughter’ type of rebellion gone waaay off the rails..

        • Jackie

          IMO her attitude is from biological personality disorders. Maybe she was adopted?

          • aemish

            She’s a Calhoun descendant.. well known family name for Charleston, not unlike a Ravenel in the area

          • lili22

            Lots of inbreeding amongst the old monied, WASP blue blood upper crust..

    • SMDRN66

      They need to be safe with both parents. I don’t think T-jerk is any better than KD. He just wants his kids to try to win his father’s approval. The few scenes shown where he’s spending a few minutes with the kids before handing them off to the nannies feels staged to me. I don’t doubt that they both love their kids. I just don’t think either of them are mature enough to really know what being a parent means. I also think they need to stop fighting each other and work together to make sure their kids get the best of both of them. That also means not bad mouthing each other and defending each other. Maybe the court should order them to go into family counseling to help them to learn to work together for the best interests of their children. I just hope for the best, not just for the kids, but for all 4 of them.

      • aemish

        Golden comment, SMDRN66 乂●‿●乂

      • Jackie

        Don’t know how it is in south Carolina but I went through family court in Colorado and you HAVE to take coparenting courses. It does exactly what you said. Teaches you how to “work together for the best interests of the children”.

        • aemish

          Out of curiosity, have you or others you know taken them?

          edit: Ohhh.. on second read, I realize you weren’t referring to your parents (being from the south) taking the classes but your own self in Colorado…

          • Jackie

            My ex and i were both ordered to take them. It teaches you how the anger you have for the other person gets in the way of you being the best parent you can be. And how to be a more effective communicator…. as well as a laundry list of other important things.

          • aemish

            What family couldn’t use a more effective communicator course, right?

            Ha, I wonder how many marriages would be saved (or avoided in the first place!) if these kind of courses were required prior to obtaining a marriage license…

          • Jackie

            In Israel (where my dad is from) after getting separated you are court ordered to continue to live together for 1 year and attend couples counseling before you will be granted a divorce. They even randomly how to your house to make sure both people still live there. Most people fall back in love and call off the divorce before the year ends.

            We should do that in America.

          • aemish

            My husband is there now.. I wonder if they still do that? A lot of his Israeli friends are divorced, multiple times even..

          • Jackie

            No way! Divorce is a big no-no. Only 2 out of my 1000s of family members there are divorced. My uncle did the year of counseling, called off the divorce, then years later the divorce was back on and they followed through with it. Maybe that year of counseling is no longer done?? That was maybe 15+ years ago. I don’t know.

          • aemish

            These are all people we know now and I literally don’t know any of them still married to their first spouse! Maybe they did the divorce here in the states, maybe they just stayed married there and remarried again here.. this is definitely something I will be looking into..!

          • Chickpea16

            Yes, what a great idea.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            They do have courses like that! Lol
            I got married in the Catholic Church and their requirement before you marry is that you attend a couple’s retreat/workshop called Pre Cana. I hated the thought of attending it, but we did learn some useful information there. Maybe it’s not as much of a waste of time as everybody thinks…

          • TNC

            My parents actually taught the classes in their town in Texas as it was court ordered for divorcing parents. It was called “For Kids Sake” where they live and was a really good class. The point they wanted to get across to people is to love your child more than you hate your ex.

  • Salmah

    I think her fans are not understanding this is NOT KD getting her children back. At 26 years old her MOTHER is on the custody agreement. HER MOTHER! Without the mother stepping in and agreeing to take responsibility this would not have happened. KD has not changed her ways. They will be back in court before years end. This is Thomas showing the court he is/was willing. SHe is a drug addict and has serious mental problems. This does not change overnight. First failed drug test and thats it. period.

    This entire agreement is contingent on KD passing a drug test.

    This whole agreement only opens the door to the POSSIBILITY of KD getting JOINT/Shared custody sometime in the future.

    Her Fans are claiming she is vindicated and “won” and this could not be further from what happened.

    • Nunna Yobiz

      “her fans”. Just the fact that you had to write that makes me sad for the state of some “people”.
      Agree with your post. TY.

  • All About The Tea

    To my AATT Army: Love you all and enjoy your comments. We had a new poster disrupt our peaceful vibes yesterday. After reading all the comments (many of which are now deleted) from the start to the end, it was determined that person was here to troll and distract. That poster is now banned, so lets move on and leave yesterday’s drama in the past. Happy Friday!

    • RHONJ Fan

      Thank you, AAtT. I wish posters would leave it alone and move on.

    • the underground train

      Thank you. Love this site!

  • Jackie

    I have a biological mother that’s exactly like Kathryn. Drank and did drugs while pregnant with me. Got pregnant with me to trap my dad. Kidnapped me for 2 years when I was a baby just to destroy his life when she didn’t get the money she thought she deserved in the divorce (he had custody). My mom also had to start of with supervised visits and eventually got to 1 hour unsupervised before losing intetest in being a mom. She didn’t want to even try after she learned that she was never going to get $$. All she was going to “earn” by going through the parenting process was more parenting time.

    I grew up in the south in a wealthy 1% family. My dad spent lots of cash on lawyers because in the south dads have to fight hard because the mother is automatically given majority of custody.

    I look at all of this from a different perspective. Sure, Thomas clearly has a drinking problem. But you can tell by the way he interacts with his kids that he’s attentive to their needs and wants his kids to be happy and flourish.

    • aemish

      (((((((hugs)))))))

    • Jackie

      I look at this situation from the perspective of the children because of my similar story.

      If Kathryn truly loved her children and not $$ then #1 She wouldn’t have drank or did drugs while pregnant. #2 she would be focused on doing everything it takes to go through the steps of getting her kids back, instead of spending all her time trying to make Thomas look bad.

      Her focus is on Thomas’ money and not parenting time. She needs to focus on creating a safe loving environment for her kids and living a lifestyle that she can afford. Also, she’s young, but she’s too old to not have an education or means of supporting herself.

      • Chickpea16

        So sorry you had to go through that. You are right on every KD point. Hugs

        • Jackie

          I have the world’s best dad who more than made up for my mom’s shortfalls.

      • Rebecca Allen

        KD is just after T Rav’s $$$. She never wanted to be a mother. On a past episode when she and Jennifer are talking and Jen tells her, “T Rav is going to have to get used to the fact that he is going to owe you big time” (not verbatim) and the smirk on her face tells it all. And when she was in her car and T Rav calls her to tell her he would cosign on the house for her. After they hang up, that smirk tells it all. She even mentioned it on last years reunion that, (again, not verbatim), “people said I was a gold digger but if I was it was only to find out it was ‘fools gold'” because all I got from him was faced cleanser for Christmas” TRASH to the core!

  • All About The Tea

    Make sure to check out the final custody agreement attached.

    • shayvoe

      Thanks…good job!

    • aemish

      ah, nice! You guys got the major scoop on this one 😀

  • JustSayin

    Based on the custody part of the agreeement it looks like Thomas did retain legal custody, since he was given final say/decision making power.

    Phase 1 – alternating supervised weekends for KD. Phase 1 continues until KD has 6 months of negative hair folicle tests (October 2017).

    Phase 2 – alternating supervised weekends; 8 hours of UNsupervised time on Saturday. Phase to last 2 months.

    Phase 3 – supervised weekends are lengthened until Tuesday morning. KD will get 8 hours of UNsupervised time on Saturday and Sunday. This phase will continue for 2 months, assuming the negative drug tests continue.

    Phase 4 – supervised weekends are lengthened until Wednesday morning. Unsupervised time is now over night, from Saturday morning to Sunday night. Once KD has a year of clean tests, they will revisit mediation.

    (I think I got that straight, hard on a smartphone…)

    • aemish

      You rule, JustSayin! Thanks for breaking it down for us :))) *mmmwah!

      • JustSayin

        Lol I figured since I was reading it, I might as well share what I learned since AATT was kind enough to publish the update. And I know many were wondering how it would work, with continued drug testing and all. Seems like a good balance between protecting the kids and letting KD earn back her parental rights. It’s really in her control, since it all hinges on her staying clean.

        • shayvoe

          I feel much better about it since reading the this. Not sure KD will be able to do this, but the ball is in her court and Thomas is giving her every opportunity to get her kids back.

          • JustSayin

            If she can’t do it, she doesn’t deserve to be around those kids. And THEY most certainly deserve better.

          • shayvoe

            Right and it will be no one’s fault but her own.

          • JustSayin

            Oh, I’m sure somehow, someone will spin it around to being Thomas’ fault; for impregnating the dumb twat in the first place, I suppose.

          • Polly

            Did you see on the preview of the reunion that Kathryn whispers that he wanted her to get an abortion both times? What????

          • shayvoe

            And the only reason she didn’t agree, was because she thought birthing them would be her meal ticket. And now, she has to pay him child support.

          • Polly

            Do you believe he wanted her to? That’s hard to believe.

          • shayvoe

            He may have suggested it….who knows.

          • Polly

            Plus for her to say that on film …the kids will be able to see that some day. Those poor kids!

          • shayvoe

            She is a psycho!!

          • TNC

            He may have but iDK because on the last reunion when she was being shady about her pregnancy test dates she said she didn’t announce it or admit it sooner because she wasn’t sure what she wanted to do and Craig piped up that she was deciding whether or not to continue the pregnancy. If I had to guess I’m thinking she held an abortion over his head to try and use it to her advantage. This is all just my opinion but during last years reunion she was the only one that brought up what her options were and she never mentioned anything about Thomas wanting her to terminate the pregnancy. She’s a raving lunatic that says the first thing she can think of to make Thomas look bad.

          • Chickpea16

            Agree, TNC. Didn’t she say that Kensie was planned? She is such a liar. She got so lucky because not following court orders for a year and being in contempt of court not submitting her medical records she could of had her rights permanently terminated.

          • Rebecca Allen

            I don’t believe it for one minute. TRav wanted children BAD!! He liked her lineage and that is why he impregnated her. TO claim he wanted her to have abortions both times is ludicrous. She is simply trying to deflect garbage onto him and off of her! I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth!

          • Chickpea16

            I also remember her saying Kenzie was planned.

        • SassyMcAsspants

          Thanks for the insight. I appreciate your legal savvy … And snark, of course. 😜

          • JustSayin

            I’m an expert at summarizing, when I’m not fuckin with people…or while 😉 lmao

          • SassyMcAsspants

            True story.

    • bp

      How bad of a mother must you be to have to agree to this? If she makes it 2 weeks I will be shocked.

      • JustSayin

        One bad enough to lose custody of her kids – and in a court system that so heavily favors biological mothers it’s ridiculous.

  • Gil Lawhorn

    “If” and that’s a very big if, KD gets past Phase 1 and a new nanny has to be hired the long term ramifications to the children is insurmountable. The nanny told the truth about the trash succubus and now the children will have the only true mother they’ve ever known banished from their little lives. She doesn’t give a rat’s arse that this nanny has given her children love, stability, care, protection. KD is mentally unstable, vindictive, trash. It’s heartbreaking and I can only hope through therapy the abandonment of a mother figure will be addressed if this nanny is replaced. I understand the nanny is employed and employees get replaced. I feel, the fact these two children, reportedly, never had maternal bonding with birth mother to fire the nanny because the vindictive baby mama had her almost non existent ego hurt is disgusting.

    This is my first time posting here. I’ve been a long time reader/lurker and appreciate the stellar reporting and the smart delicious “tea” posted. And how about Mental Baby Mama gets to travel to wherever Thomas is staying and he must pay, if he’s away during her custody time. Good grief.

    • Elias Wedway

      ITA with every word you wrote. To take that Nanny aware from those children is cruel. It certainly shows Kathryn’s true colors, she does not give a shit that her children are going to be deeply hurt and confused. All she cares about is getting her own way and getting Thomas away from women she thinks he is sleeping with. What kind of mother does that???

    • Chickpea16

      Welcome and well said. I thought the same thing too.

    • CeeJay

      On the other hand, a HIRED nanny should not assume, nor be granted the assumed roll of mother. Nannies are paid to provide supervision, nutrition, structure and parental support. NOT to be a parent. As a mother who has hired multiple nannies to ASSIST with the care giving of my children, I would fire any nanny who considered herself a mother figure to my children and I would demand that my husband fire any nannies who did the same, if we were to separate. I don’t think there are many nanny hiring moms who would feel differently. Also, I’m guessing Thomas wouldn’t have relented on the nanny issue if he didn’t agree there would be justification to terminate. He clearly held all the cards in these negotiations.

      • TNC

        I honestly think that that was something Thomas was willing to compromise on even though I don’t think he needed to, he probably just wanted to appease Kathryn. Kathryn has accused Thomas of sleeping with the nanny and her daughter, accused the nanny of having Kensie call her mommy, Kathryn is jealous of any woman around Thomas yet had no problem with the nanny when Thomas would provide her for Kathryn to use. Kathryn is also going to accuse Jennifer of lying under oath when they did depositions. Kathryn spouts whatever nonsense she feels like without any thought to consequences they may cause others. I really think if the nanny was doing what Kathryn accused her of Thomas would have to get rid of the nanny now. I see him as trying to work with Kathryn and that’s why he agreed to get rid of the nanny if Kathryn makes it to that phase of the custody agreement. At this point, I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth.

    • aemish

      Having a nanny for our family was a necessary luxury when mine was a baby and into toddlerhood. I interviewed and call references and all but for me the method was a trial week. We finally did find our family fit who was with us for several years. When moving from our building, she was down in the play area with all the other nannies and children they were caring for. She mentioned to them one day, well, this will be our last week here, the family is moving.. The other nannies scoffed and go, “Oh, you’re fired. They always say they are moving when they find a new one..” And she goes, “No, I’ve seen the new place..we’ve made arrangements for the new address..”

      But.. that’s how I did it. If it didn’t work out, I would just say, ‘We’re moving.’ I’m not into personal drama and these women need to know if they aren’t fit to keep a very well paying nanny job for more than a week, maybe they ought to go bag groceries for less than half the pay. I went down to the playground one day and hung out with the nannies and just listened to them. They all thought they paid their own paycheck as if the parents owed them a favor. It was pretty… scary, really. For the children. Those nannies didn’t give a crap about the kids. It was all a “well, if I don’t show up to care for that kid since they both work 60+ hours a week, who else they gonna get on such short notice!?” When they realized I was a mom and possibly knew their employers (I didn’t, but they didn’t know that) oh boy did those attitudes change with a quickness.

      Nannies are not mothers. They are not hired to be mothers. I think it’s sick if a nanny assumes she is going to replace a mother. And by the way, my ten-year-old only remembers ours we had from age one through four when she sees videos of them at the music or gymnastics class or playground video — or of trips to the Liberty Science Center or the American Museum of Science and History just to all hang out together. Our nanny was more like an auntie/little sister [to me] figure. Not a relative and definitely not a mother. Just a fun, bubbly, positive person we all enjoyed spending mornings and lunch with where I could trust my mini-me would be in good hands.

      Saint is one-year-old. Kensie is three-years-old. They’re gonna be jussst fine.

      • Elias Wedway

        Your situation was different. Your kids had a mother that came home everyday, ate meals with them everyday, were put to bed by their mom every night etc. In Kensie & Saint’s lives that mother role is being and has been fulfilled by the same nanny since the day they were brought home from the hospital. To a young child/toddler they see that nanny as their mom. She is the only regular, consistent, female care giver figure they have ever had in their lives. Kensie sees her friends with their moms and just assumes her nanny is her mom since her nanny does all the same things as the other moms. I would be willing to bet no one ever told or encouraged Kensie to call the nanny, mom. She did that all on her own, it is very common for young children to do in this in these types of situations. I grew up in almost the same exact situation as K&S. My Nanny was truly my mother figure in every way that counted. She was a positive and long lasting influence on my life and we were very close until the day she passed. IMO, there is a HUGE difference between a babysitter who watches the children for a set time each day/week, however the children’s parents spend the majority of time with them and the parents are 100% raising the children VS a nanny that is actually raising the children in every sense of the word and is the parental figure the children spend the majority of everyday with. Sounds to me like you had babysitters that helped care for your children when necessary. Kensie and Saint have a nanny who is raising them on a daily basis and is the only maternal figure they know or they have bonded with. To take her out of these children’s lives is cruel and very selfish of Kathryn.

        • Chickpea16

          Totally agree and well said.

        • aemish

          It is true, our nanny was not a live-in as it sounds like yours may have been. She worked Monday through Friday from 9 am to 2 pm as I had online classes and couldn’t be disturbed. She was also on call for late afternoons, evenings and weekends. It was a really positive experience for us all and lasted through toddlerhood until, ironically, we really did relocate :p

          Does anyone know if Thomas’ nannies are live-ins? I got the impression the mom/daughter duo worked in shifts; they had their own home and just came their sort of like a firehouse type situation: 48 hours on, 48 hours off or something of that nature..

          • JustSayin

            I totally agree, even if KD were completely out of her kids’ lives, the NANNY is not and should not be those kids’ “mother figure” – nannies are hired help, not replacement mothers.

            Yours and CeeJay’s posts really nailed the subject

          • aemish

            lol right? Parents > help

            It kinda reminds me of that scene in Bruce Almighty when he was potty training the dog, but in reverse! Inside bad, outside good.. inside BAD, outside GOOD..

            inside bad > outside good

            parents > help

          • Elias Wedway

            Again, your situation was entirely different then the situation that Kensie & Saint, myself and thousands of other children, who have or had a true full time nanny, who does the vast majority of parenting– are/were in. Your situation is as different as night and day, so you can not even begin to understand the intensity and bond that exists between the child(ren) and their nanny. This is not someone that is there for a set amount of hours per week and then pitch hits when needed, etc. This is someone that truly is a member of the family. To say a nanny is not a maternal figure is so untrue for so many children and adults (with past nannys) that it is frankly insulting to me and very assuming on your part. You had, what most consider a regular babysitter. I am sure she was well liked and treated well but she was not a member of the family–as you, yourself have stated. She was your babysitter that you had until your children were through their toddler years. Many, many times a nanny is with a family for years, sometimes even for several generations. My nanny was a loved and cherished member of our family until the day she passed, at almost 90 years old. Again the 2 situations are so vastly different, they are not even in the same spectrum.

          • aemish

            First of all, it ain’t rocket surgery so you don’t have to speak to me like that. I believe the mother/daughter nanny duo has some kind of 48-hours on/off situation, so clearly I can begin to understand it. I believe they have their own residence and trade shifts. I did see a documentary about the live-ins for the super wealthy such as yours and it was fascinating! But even those brats (lol it was hilarious how detached they were) realized once they went to college the nanny they had from babyhood was going to be placed elsewhere. Our nanny was part-time.

        • Gil Lawhorn

          Thank you for so eloquently posting what I was trying to convey, agree wholeheartedly with you.

    • BigBrothersMother

      You had me at “trash succubus.” Perfection!!!!

  • Polly

    Thomas can’t drink when the kids are with him, correct? That’s a whole lotta not drinkin for the ole coot.

    • shayvoe

      Nope….it said in moderation.

      • Polly

        I missed the “excess” part. How do they determine that? I’m only asking because on the show he drinks a lot.

        • shayvoe

          I think everyone in Charleston drinks a lot. Excessive there, is not going to be the same as excessive in Bumphuck, Iowa…lol

          • Polly

            Haha true

  • 4peace

    Looks like a solid agreement. I hope Kathryn will become the mother those children need. If not, Thomas will have full legal power to raise them as he wishes.

  • Karoline

    I think at this point Thomas should retire from reality tv. It isn’t dignified to put all this out there for the world to see.

    • aemish

      Imagine the horror of his elderly jovial dad.. he had the charm all right, but that undertone of disappointment in that one scene practically leapt out of the screen

      • MissScarletwithaRevolver

        His son, born with such a silver spoon is a convicted felon who blames his fuckupery on his parents for paying more attention to his disabled brother. Thomas is a Loser.

        • aemish

          We all have our demons idiosyncrasies :p

        • Karoline

          He thinks it would be a privilege for a woman to be with him. He is delusional. He ran his ” family name” into the ground.

    • RunningWithWine

      I heard rumors he was leaving the show! I hope it’s true he needs to be off Tv and raise those kids away from the cameras!

      • bp

        I don’t think Kathryn is going to be able to honor and abide by one thing in the custody agreement. I think Thomas is going to have those children 24/7, 365 ,full time daddy sooner than later. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think they are anything special to her because they are no longer of use to her.

        • RunningWithWine🇺🇸

          Sadly I think you are right!

      • Daisy Clover

        He says that every year. He’s a drama queen like Kathryn. And he’s a drunk and an ex-druggie. Nice legacy those parents are passing on to their children.

    • as seen on TV

      kathryn should also.

      • Karoline

        I definitely agree with you. But Katherine is such a waste you can’t expect her to make a responsible decision.

  • BigBrothersMother

    Has anyone watched the reunion clip on Bravo where Kathryn accuses Jennifer of lying? KD seemed high to me. On second thought she had to be to wear that outfit.

    • TNC

      I saw it and Kathryn is disgusting. She spews lies at the drop of a hat to try and take the blame off of herself. Nothing is ever her fault and everyone is against her. I have no clue how she has fans, but she does although the majority of us see through her lies and hold Kathryn responsible for her choices.

    • RunningWithWine

      Looked like she to way to much pain meds and xanex to me! She wasn’t barely able to keep her eyes open.

    • Karoline

      I think Katherine looked like she was under the influence in all of her talking heads.

      • Jackie

        I thought the same thing.

    • aemish

      Either she has the weirdest style sense of all time or that Cooper idiot who’s dressing her does

    • Tilly

      In defense of Marchesa, it’s actually a gorgeous gown. KD just doesn’t wear it well.

      • Misha

        How does the trick afford Marchesa??? Is this what she’s spending her Bravo cheques on?

    • Misha

      I would think that accusing someone of lying under oath is a big thing in the US? Not that anyone should believe that banshee. She’s grasping at straws these days.

  • TartLemon

    Why was Kensie born in Florida? What is a ‘family wizard’?

    • bp

      They were renting a home in palm beach before and after Kensington was born. When the baby was a couple of months old Thomas and Kathryn got in a fight and Thomas was drunk and grabbed the baby and fell into the pool with her.

      • aemish

        I remember that! I thought the baby fell into the pool in the stroller though..?

        • bp

          That was Alexis and Jim Bellino from rhoc.

          • aemish

            oh yaaa… :p

    • shayvoe

      She was born during Polo season, when Thomas moves to Palm Beach every year for 3 months to play Polo, or used to before he had kids. I have no idea what a “family wizard” is. Maybe an on line communication system where parents can communicate about the kids, without having to verbally communicate?

  • Imsolmtg

    I have never posted on any site at any time for any reason. I started watching SC because I LOVE Charleston and really enjoy seeing the city scapes on the show. However, what kept me watching the show was Kathryn. I have read many of your comments and felt I needed to say something. It is obvious that Kathryn has borderline personality disorder. Anyone that has had to live with someone with borderline personality disorder would agree with me. Unfortunately, I have experienced this with an aunt and a boyfriend. They suck the air out of every room they enter because of the narcissistic component to the disorder. Many con artists have BPD. Google the BPD and you will see what I mean. It is very difficult to treat and most people diagnosed with BPD don’t really believe they have a problem. Many professionals will not treat BPD because it is so hard to treat.

    I have continued to watch the show in the hope that she will get real help, otherwise she will continue to turn the lives of the kids and family around her upside down all the time. My aunt nearly destroyed my cousins up to the time of her death. My boyfriend never thought he had a problem but his problems affected all of his family and friends who were continually drawn in to his dramas . . . They always have drama! I can’t believe that the bravo producers don’t know this. I think they make bank off her so they don’t care what a danger it is for her to be on the show. I can 100% guarantee you that her family has been dealing with her BPD for a long time, likely since she became a teen. I am hoping that bravo will do the right thing and take her off the show for her sake and the sake of her kids.

    • MsM

      Oh there’s mental illness there all right – but until Kathryn is completely clean and sober there’s no way to make an accurate diagnosis just on the basis that her behaviors are influenced by whatever the drug of choice is at that moment. She could be a borderline but she could be bipolar or even schizoaffective – there are a lot of behaviors there that overlap and add high voltage drugs to the mix one has a quicksand pit to mire through in order to determine exactly what is wrong with the patient. I deal with patients like Kathryn a couple of times a week, thankfully I can refer them over to the addictions unit because there is no way I will work with addicts. The lack of accountability or responsibility is too great to make any decent headway in therapy.

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