Lisa Vanderpump Feels Lisa Rinna Has NO Knowledge Or Authority To Speak On Kim Richards’ Addiction Struggles

Posted on Jan 19 2017 - 8:58am by Terri L. Austin

Lisa Vanderpump takes Lisa Rinna to task in her Real Housewives of Beverly Hills blog.

LVP has defended Kim and Kyle Richards before, but when she saw the conversation between Rinna and Eden Sassoon, she was shocked. Rinna insisted that Kim wasn’t totally sober, called Kyle an enabler, and thought Kim was near death.

“…LR‘s intent to humiliate Kim at her “game night” was unacceptable. To constantly initiate subjects referring to Kim‘s struggles is not necessary. …her assertions…seemed retaliatory because where, when and how could she profess to have any knowledge of Kim‘s well being? She had spent little, if any, time with her whatsoever in the last year or so.”

Rinna and Eileen Davidson like to parse through everyone’s comments, dissecting and sifting them apart until they can find offense. But Rinna had no problem throwing out comments about Kim’s struggle.

I’m not saying Kim’s an angel. She’s a flawed, massively damaged person, which is all the more reason for Rinna to rise above. I don’t for one minute believe Rinna’s “concern” is real in regards to Kim. LVP feels the same way. 

“I don’t believe anyone has the right or authority in a public forum to contest somebody’s sobriety without good reason.”

LVP also questioned Rinna’s assertion that Kyle was an enabler. (And since when did Rinna become an expert in sobriety?)

“In my experience, and I believe I am a thousand percent more qualified to comment than LR, I have never seen anything but a supportive, albeit strained at times, relationship…”

LVP points out that Eileen picked apart her questions about her marriage to Vinny last season, but when Rinna makes assumptions about Kim, Eileen is mum. LVP wouldn’t play it like that.

“As a friend, I would reprimand her, for being so unduly judgmental in regard to Kim. What was the word she used regarding our conversation in the Hamptons one long year ago? …Icky…Yes that’s it.”

When Lisa and Ken took son, Max, to the lawyer who assisted them in their adoption, LVP couldn’t contain her tears.

“As an adoptive mother in his younger years, I felt threatened at the prospect of him searching for his biological family… Unfortunately my emotions got the better of me…”

And for those women who insist LVP is a tough cookie, she showed her soft side last night.

“I have been accused in the past of not being as vulnerable as some of the other women, as I have remained stoic in my attitude when under attack, but when it comes to things concerning matters of the heart (my children and many issues I support wholeheartedly), well tears, I suppose, are just a blink away.”

So, will LVP and Eileen have a final battle this season? The animosity is palpable with every encounter. I hope Lisa finally has a chance to check Eileen once and for all. Thoughts?

 

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  • Darris

    I think everyone is in agreenance that Rinna’s comments about Kim were very low. Everyone reacted at the table visably or you could hear them bar Erika and Dorit. Even Eileen said it was a low blow in her blog. What I want Lisa V to do is get over last year just like we all want Eileen to shut up about apologies and pantygate. For two women wanting to move on to more important things they both sure do like to mention each other a lot. She also doesn’t know what Eileen could have said to Rinna when they were leaving game night.

    Sidenote…icky is a word.

    I also loved Vanderpump’s scene with Max. It’s was very touching and it takes a strong woman to not only want to adopt but to be open to their child’s curiosity about their roots once they come of age. I commend her for that as well as Ken.

  • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

    I’m glad LVP is calling out just a little of the hypocrisy amongst some of this group. Kyle keeps very quiet when it comes to Rinna, I noticed in Malibu she kept trying to say it was both Kim nd Rinna – I think Rinna has a lot of dirt on Kyle re Munchausens and possibly stuff Kyle shared about Kim before Amsterdam. Regardless it’s not up to Rinna to keep flogging Kim for her addiction. Don’t we all know that sobriety for a recovering addict is taken one day at a time? So if Kim is sober today doesn’t that mean she is doing ok? And tomorrow will be judged when it comes? Why does Rinna think it’s okay to keep throwing Kim’s obvious struggles at her a year later/

    • Oh Snarky Me

      It was weird when LVP was discussing the situation of Rinna vs Kim with Kyle and Kyle just tried to change the subject. Like you noted, she seemed loathe to say anything negative about Rinna even though Rinna keeps attacking her sister. It was very, very odd to me.

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        IKR? She kept interrupting Ken or LVP and I think even Mauricio at one point, to shut down any blame on Rinna. I think Rinna has a lot of dirt on Kyle.

  • LuxLuxLux

    Kyle LOVES it whenever anyone goes after Kim, she also loves to make Kim’s struggles all about her.

    • JustSayin

      And I can’t stand it!

  • Bryan

    The best scene in the episode was the scene with the adoption lawyer, there was more reality in that scene then most of what we have seen in the entire franchise all last year and this ( so far)

    • catmom

      ITA. LVP may not always show her emotions. That’s not a bad thing. When she does show emotions, they are genuine not some amped up b.s to create drama like those two idiots, soapy and sudsy.

      • Bryan

        No one should be sobbing constantly anyway, it makes them looks psychotic

    • BetteDavisEyez1

      So true. LVP can not bare the thought of Max finding his real mum & it breaks her heart that he even wants to. You could tell those tears were real.

      • Bryan

        Yes, this is something I imagine a good deal of parents of adopted children have gone thru

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          My aunt adopted 4 kids & always worried about that. One daughter did find her birth parents. My aunt’s feelings were hurt but she understood. The oldest daughter told my aunt that she is her mother & didn’t feel the need to search.

          • Bryan

            I heard some regretted their decision to look for the birth parent, as they turned out to be someone they wished they never knew

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Also, some get rejected & have to deal with that all over again.

          • Bryan

            Sadly that’s part of the process, the birth parents really do not owe the child now grown an audience, for some BP that was a tough and traumatic time in their lives, some just want to forget

  • shayvoe

    The Hilton sisters, Kyle and Kathy, are the biggest enablers of Kim on the planet. They go after anyone who speaks the truth about her addiction. Is it any of LR business, no, but it’s the truth. Kim has never worked a program and you can’t remain sober without one. She white knuckles her sobriety and is always one knuckle away from relapsing.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      ITA that Kim is not working a program and yes it is the truth but if we put this in perspective look at how Eileen reacted last season to LVP saying the word “affair” – it was the truth, it was what Eileen did, and it was a long time ago. Eileen found this so offensive that LVP would mention something that SHE did in her past and Rinna backed her up. But they have no issue dragging up Kim’s struggles from a year ago.

      • shayvoe

        This really has nothing to do with Eileen, and Eden is the one who brought up Kim. Lisa R should not be commenting, becuase of her volatile past with Kim, but both Lisa and Eden lost a sister to addiction. I think that Eden was genuinely concerned about Kim, IMO. Her questions seemed to come from a place of compassion and concern. LVP needs to let it go…Eileen has not mentioned her name in any of her blogs this season, yet LVP drones on and on every blog about Eileen. Talk about beating a dead horse…she can’t let it go either, just like Eileen couldn’t last season.

        • catmom

          Hi Shayvoe! I think that them not mentioning LVP in their blogs is passive-aggressive behavior on their part. They always comment on the nice moments that the other women share on the show, but no mention of the meeting with Max and the adoption lawyer? That screams passive-aggressive to me more than the fact that they have moved on. JMO, of course.

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            Oh this is so weird…I was typing the same thing re them being passive aggressive when you obviously posted yours!!! ITA, they are really being childish and it shows that this is more about LVP’s position on the show than her asking about an affair.

          • Bryan

            If I was LVP I would be glad they are not saying anything about her period since most of what they have to say is negative anyway

          • catmom

            I get that, but the show would be so much more fun if they all got along better. I don’t enjoy watching the petty arguments and passive-aggressive behavior. I want to see glitz, glamour and genuine relationships with a few cat fights tossed in.

          • Bryan

            I think so to, but for the most part what I have noticed is most of the people who seem to watch these show’s have miserable unhappy lives, they don’t want to see other people happy, they want to see conflict and cat fights and arguments. Also to see really wealthy people happy makes these same people off the scale jealous, they hate it. . I am with you, I would prefer it if they did get along, sans cat fights, that is low rent uneducated behavior ( it’s better to use you’re words as weapons, they work to more effect) . But anyway, we will never see a show like that because in the end from experience and reading the blogs, when there is no MAYHEM the mobocracy declares it ” BORING”

          • catmom

            You’re right. Let me clarify that by cat fights, I meant non-physical spats. I may have used the wrong term. I don’t watch the shows that encourage and condone physical altercations. It’s too trashy and low-rent for me.

          • Bryan

            We can already see those kind of fights in some of the other cities LOL

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            You hit the nail on the head with that one, Bryan. The better off the HW are the more they are hated. It’s really insane because that was the original premise of these shows. To watch wealthy women conducting business, raising their families, traveling & interacting with other wealthy women.
            ETA: Now it’s all about “reads” & “shade” & women acting like fools because their only income comes from the show.

          • shayvoe

            Hi Catmom….You could be right, so LVP should do the same.

          • catmom

            She should, but I miss the days of the show when the women had more fun together and seemed to have some genuine affection for one another, even when they had disagreements. Now it’s just one petty argument after another. Yet, I still watch, so what does that say about me? 🙂

          • shayvoe

            HA! Me too, watching, but enjoying it less.

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          I was responding to your comment “…but it’s truth” and pointing out that some people are okay with speaking about others truth and not their own. Rinna backed Eileen up about LVP asking about her affair in the Hamptons. They both found it rude. Eileen has not let it go at all and has made a few snide comments about LVP in her THs this season. LVP is responding to what she is seeing on screen and calling out the very obvious hypocrisy from Eileen and Rinna when it comes to other peoples “truths” and their own. Eileen and Rinna seem to have made a pact not to mention LVP in their blogs this season – so childishly passive aggressive in itself – but can’t leave Kim alone?

        • Bryan

          The reason they are saying nothing is because they do not want to go thru the hell they went thru last year on social media, so they are playing it safe, which is probably the only smart thing they have done this season

    • BetteDavisEyez1

      All that you pointed out is true but how does Rinna know that Kim is this close to death?!?
      Has Kim been rushed to the hospital & it was just kept out of the news?!?

      • wellWellwell

        Rinna is now pack peddling on that comment saying she is going off what Kyle said a year ago about ‘how she often worries about receiving that “phone call” regarding her sister Kim’ Now she’s blaming Kyle for the words she spewed..smdh

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          Just like she did with Yolanda & the munchausen(sp) mess that she stirred up last season.

          • wellWellwell

            Exactly. Did you waste your time like I did and read her blog?

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            No. Where is it?!? I bet she is only backpeddling because she is getting ripped a new one on SM.
            Rinna is so wishy washy. She throws shyt out there & then when no one agrees with her, she changes her stance.

          • wellWellwell

            Bravo has it up. Yep that’s exactly why she is back peddling, she’s getting ripped. She’s all over the place in her blog and even feigns memory loss…

      • shayvoe

        She doesn’t, unless, like you said, she has some inside scoop, or maybe that is just her opinion, based on her own experiences with family members. But, regardless, Rinna should not be discussing Kim…period. Nothing good will come of that based on their past. I think KIm is a very sick woman, she doesn’t appear fully sober to me, and she is very damaged. She is also mean, selfish and still cant apologize or take responsibility for her own actions…all traits of an addict who is still using.

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          Yes. Like when they showed the flashback of game night. How mean she was being to Brandi.
          Kim does have a mean streak. I don’t know if it’s all from drug use or her entitled, child star mentality. Either way, she acts like a mean drunk.

          • shayvoe

            She does and always has. It is like you said, which came first, the meanness or the addiction? Kyle not admitting that big Kathy was a blackout drunk is just more denial and enabling. That entire family is in denial, and based on the addiction gene that is very prevalent in that family, they need to accept it and worry about their own kids and grandkids inheriting that gene, instead of pretending it doesn’t exist. Kyles complete lack of knowledge about addiction is astounding to me, when she asked Eden, “does it have to come from somewhere?”

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            So true. Kim has been lucky that none of her daughters seem to have followed down that path, but her son has had some episodes.
            I hope none of Kyle’s daughters ever pick up the bottle because you never know who does have the gene. One drink is usually all it takes. They seem like stable & well rounded young ladies. Unlike their Hilton cousins.

          • But sober Kyle was also crackling with Kim and helped her
            hide the crutch. That terrible moment when people started rooting for Brandy haha. I think Big Kathy didn’t teach her kids about playing fair.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Yes. Kyle was right beside her sister, pointing their fingers at Brandi & calling her a slut pig. It was terrible.

      • MBB14

        Part of it is how she looks. For her age, she looks really rough and that is with uber TV makeup. She sounds very on edge and frail too.

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          Always slurring her words. She looks older than LVP. Yes. Kim looks rough.

    • They are her sisters and love her. To insinuate that loving an addict is somehow enabling them is insulting to many. Unless you have a picture of them buying her drugs and alcohol they do no enable her. In fact I believe Kyle is a shit sister most times for not having Kim’s back when she should. Sure Kyle must be tired of the ups and downs of having an addict as a sister but Kim was exposed to the life of drugs and alcohol while working to supporther family at a very young age. They all lived a very comfortable life off her hard work so she owns her a lot of understanding and support. Do you really believe Rinna who had not even taken her kids to her hometown to visit their grandparents till she was on camera her 1st season of BH and hardly knew her older sister before she died is so affected by addiction that she is out to save Kim? Eden seems like a very thirsty loon from her twitter timeline but it’s too early to judge her so I will reserve my judgment for a few more episodes.

      • shayvoe

        Rinna was also affected by Harry’s two brothers who were addicts and Harry, who is an alcoholic. She has more than enough experience with addicts to form and educated opinion. Nowhere did I say loving an addict is enabling them. But, making excuse after excuse for their behavior, going after anyone who speaks the truth about the addiction, saying they are sober when they aren’t IS enabling them. You can love an addict to death by enabling them which does not include buying them drugs or alcohol.

        • Most of the time Kyle looks as shocked as we are when she realizes
          Kim had started using again. That first season when she outed her on in the Limo, there was this behind the scenes look episode they showed not too long ago where the camera crew tells Kyle don’t go back in the Limo. Don’t say anything more but she purposely went back in the limo and outed Kim. She was very annoyed Kim had not corroborated that Kyle had not said anything about Camille. In that instance I hated Kyle. I can’t stand Kim at all most times BUT
          I would never do that to my own sister. You know this will be on TV and basically Kim is at her work place so leave the come to Jesus moments for private family interventions. I can’t recall one time where Kyle tried to cover up for Kim. I had always thought she hated her on some level because she seems so happy when other people go after her and has cried for 6 seasons about how she is the harrowing supportive sister. Even the episode last week where Kim was
          trying to take the tag off her dress and Kyle totally looked shocked to see it I was disgusted. Most designer dresses have that security tag to prevent people from returning a dress they had already worn. Kyle sure damn well knows this and how people would quickly connect this to Kim’s Target incident but she was in her TH saying “yea don’t know what to say about that” she can be such a bitch sometimes. Don’t know which Kyle people are talking about being an enabler but the one I have watched for 7 seasons pretty much sucks at being a friend let alone a good sister.

        • MBB14

          I absolutely agree with you.

        • Bryan

          Bullshit, she is by no means an expert on anything and sticking her nose into another family turmoil is none of her business no matter how many people died, She needs to spend more time with her own family and leave Kim to the professional not a couple of busy body morons they think they are trying to help, they are just making matters worse

          • shayvoe

            I said she should keep her nose out of it. Kim may die, but it’s out of Lisa’s hands. She should just let her kill herself and keep her mouth shut.

          • Bryan

            Well for the sake of her loved ones, I hope she doesn’t kill herself this kind of questioning from morons like Soapy, and Sudsy and Sister of dead druggie are not helping matter especially from what the previews say

          • Poo

            According to Eden Sassoon, tough love meant not taking her sisters last call. She killed herself hours later. Yep,that tough love really works.

          • shayvoe

            Clearly, the enabling love didn’t work either.

          • WikiView

            Lol. I just read your post after writing a very similar comment.

          • Bryan

            She is such a mess and and an idiot!

        • WikiView

          Rinna has no right to comment or talk about Kim. It is none of her business. She’s better to focus on staying in her own family lane. I’d be keeping an eye on her daughters if I was her

      • Sunflower

        Great Post.
        Read it a few times.
        No comment…!

      • WikiView

        Totally agree with you on this. Rinna needs professional help for her bullying. It’s disgusting

    • JustSayin

      Exactly! I love LVP, but she’s wrong if she thinks Kyle isn’t an enabler. People seem confused as to what an enabler is. Being an enabler doesn’t mean you buy the addict drugs. It also doesn’t mean you don’t love the person – it’s usually the opposite. Usually it’s someone you love so much and want to help so badly, you can’t detach yourself and realize that your love isn’t helping.

      Kyle admits that she and her husband have supported Kim financially. I had a friend who turned into a total cokehead, her mom thought that if she just paid her rent and utilities and bought groceries for her, that was okay because she wasn’t buying her drugs, after all.

      But by taking care of her financially, her mother ENABLED her to spend all of her own money on drugs, and her paychecks went right up her nose.

      What Kyle does for Kim is similar, but goes even further. Kyle got Kim on this show and continues to push for her to be part of the show. She lies and covers for her sister about being sober when she obviously isn’t.

      I could go on, I just don’t care to, this subject is so not why I watch these shows.

      • shayvoe

        Completely agree. I think many of the people commenting are clueless about addicts, enabling them, loving them and sometimes loving them to death. Unless one has lived with an addict, you really have no idea what it’s like. Being the child of an alcoholic myself, I feel for Kim’s kids. My mother was in complete denial that my father was an alcoholic and did not admit until years after her died at only 48 years old, that he was an alcoholic. Back in those days, everyone drank and because my father was not a skid row drunk, which was what people considered alcoholics back in the day, she didn’t get it. Because they belonged to the country club, my father was highly educated and had a great job, he did not fit the mold, but he drank every day until he was drunk. Luckily for us, he was a happy drunk. But, it killed him at only 48 years old. Had my mother not been in complete denial, maybe he could have been helped.

  • catmom

    Rinna’s behavior is reckless. Funny that Eileen had problems with LVP asking her personal questions, but no problem with Eden asking Kyle highly personal questions about her mother’s drinking behavior. I am not a big Kim or Kyle fan, at all, but it is inappropriate for both Rinna and Eden to suggest that someone is not sober and close to death. Just disgusting.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      LOL I just posted the same about Eileen!! 🙂

      • catmom

        GMTA 🙂

    • Darris

      How do you know Eileen didn’t have a problem? She wasn’t even there when they questioned Kyle lol.

      • catmom

        I’m going by the fact that she never said anything about Eden’s interrogation in her blog. She supports it implicitly by not calling out the behavior, IMO. She’s the one that always has something to say, but in this instance, her silence is deafening. Again, this is just my opinion.

        • wellWellwell

          Eileen is busy stalking Ericka, she can’t be bothered right now. You know priorities…

          • catmom

            Yes. Eileen had no problem interjecting herself into panty-gate, and she wasn’t present for that either. I typically reserve my highest level of disgust for grifters and thieves like the Guidices and Vicki, G., but I’m thinking about making an exception for Eileen 🙂

          • wellWellwell

            I’m with ya. Eileen just needs to pee on Erika’s twat and claim it as her own already, she’s obsessed. She has talked about it more then PK ever starred at it. eww..(not a fan of his either)
            I agree with you by these nitwits not commenting on LVP they think they are icing her out.

        • Darris

          Well she hasn’t said anything yet probably because she hasn’t posted a blog for this weeks episode. Only Eden, Rinna and Vanderpump lol.

          • catmom

            I apologize, you are correct. I was thinking about her failure to adequately address Rinna’s behavior at Kyle’s party. I was reading last week’s blog.

          • Darris

            Gotcha I’m following you now. Eileen did however call Lisa’s comment a low blow in her blog from that week. Personally I hope Rinna gets a even bigger backlash about her comments with Kim/Kyle and bringing Eden into it. Completely distasteful

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        Eileen expressed her dissatisfaction at people talking about Yolanda’s health (even though she wasn’t there) and about Erika’s crotch but hasn’t said a word about this.

        • Darris

          So fat she hasn’t beyond her blog last week and at the dinner. What more do you need. Her to sit down with Rinna and say “I don’t like what your said to Kim…you should apologize again”? Personally I don’t want her to say much more because I don’t need her dragging out that comment like she did Lisa V’s and pantygate. I’ve learned the less eileen says the more I like her. So keep those lips closed unless it’s absolutely necessary in my opinion

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            She made some noise after LVP did about the arrest comment but other than that she has said nothing about Rinna’s continued harassment of Kim. And I do believe at this point it is harassment because she is doing it even when Kim is not on the show knowing that it will get to her. Eileen she made sure to tell Rinna in Dubai that she didn’t agree with her talking about Yolanda, she made sure to tell Dorit in front of Erika that she didn’t like her talking about Erika’s crotch…Eileen is very good at making sure everyone knows when she isn’t co-signign something.
            I agree with you that the less we hear from Eileen the better but in the meantime, while she is on the show, I will call out her hypocrisy and I’m delighted that LVP ad other viewers are doing it too.

    • MBB14

      That’s a really good point. No consistency.

  • BetteDavisEyez1

    Well done, Terri & LVP. I am so glad that no one is willing to give Rinna a pass just because Kim is a hot mess.
    We all know the Kim Richards story. I like many others would love to never hear about it again.
    However, Rinna is a disgusting piece of work. All Kim did was tell Rinna that she & Eileen are like a tag team & play off of eachother. That hardly warranted “Let’s talk about your arrest!!”
    Rinna has probably been feigning to meet up with Kim again to use that line. I have no respect for anyone that kicks someone when they are down.

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Bette! I think Rinna hates Kim with a passion and will do whatever she can to make her look as bad as possible.

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Hey there, Marsie.
        I agree. Rinna is doing all of this out of pure hatred. So for her to try & mask it as concern is just BS.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      ITA Bette!! Rinna is a parasite feeding off others and it takes a real low life to feed off someone as troubled as Kim Richards.

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Exactly. Kim is low hanging fruit. What is Rinna trying to accomplish by picking on a hot ass mess?!?

  • Contessa Bel Raven

    Kim has a very good reason to maintain sobriety. She wants to be in her grandson’s life. That may be reason enough for her. I do not think she was high or enebriated (sp?) at game night. I do think she does have some lasting effects from the drinking and drugs that are manifesting. Kim actually didn’t say anything about HH. She said let’s talk about husbands and what you don’t want out there. She never disclosed anything but Rinna went crazy. Do I can understand Kim’s reasoning that she never said anything about HH. She was also speaking truth in that Eileen and Rinna wind each other up. We all see that. Rinna is putting things out there that may not be true and it is, I believe, payback for her perception that Kim came for HH. She has no real knowledge of how Kim is doing now because they are NOT friends nor do they hang out together. The way Eden interrogated Kyle under the guise of “getting to know her” was intrusive. She has not yet reached the level of friendship where she can ask those questions. LVP is commentimg om things that happened on the episode so her speaking of Eileen is not just a matter of not letting things go. That’s part of their blogging expectations to comment on the show. JMO

    • AM Hedly

      I agree, in hindsight I understand Kim and what actually went down.

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Contessa! ITA. Great commentary.
      I also believe Kim was not under the influence during game night, but she does possess the physical traits of being a long time addict.

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      Great post Tessie. Kim is a hard one to figure out, because like many addicts she’s a master at hiding it. I think you nailed it on “the lasting effects”.

      • Contessa Bel Raven

        There has to be. Anyone who has been an addict as long as Kim has definitely has issues when they sober up.

    • Jennymckitty

      Kim started praying at a young age. She seems very uncomfortable in large groups and is a bit socially awkward. In the past, she could rely on substances to help her cope. The last three seasons she was on…save poker night…Kim was a bundle of nerves at the large events. I think that might be how she is sober. I’m wondering if high strung and trying to appear 100% happy is her baseline.
      I don’t think that addiction is the only mental health issue Kim suffers from. I wonder if there she has bipolar disorder as well.

      • Contessa Bel Raven

        I think there be be mental health issues at play here as well. Who knows, maybe she took her purse with her to the bathroom to take some anti-anxiety meds knowing that taking it on camera or in front of the ladies would spark “she’s abusing pills” talk? Just a thought….

  • AM Hedly

    I was disgusted watching Lisa Rinna triggering Eden at the clothing store, rinna knew exactly what buttons to push to manipulate Eden successfully into confronting Kyle about her family history and Kim.
    Rinna says she “only comes from a good place and want the best”, we all saw that is not the case, she is lying and manipulating, gossiping about Kim behind her back, real low blow.
    I dont think Eden comes from a bad place, she got triggered and manipulated by rinna.

    • Marsbars09

      Agree with everything you said with the exception of Eden not coming from a bad place. I think she’s just as evil as Rinna.

      • AM Hedly

        I have a feeling she was manipulated by rinna into having that conversation with Kyle, I might be wrong.Maybe they have agreed on this before filming in the clothing store.

  • Marsbars09

    I commend LVP for standing up for what’s right. It was absolutely horrible of Eden & Rinna to recklessly gossip about Kim’s sobriety and whether she’s going to die. Kim has children who heard what was said.

    • JustSayin

      I’m sure Kim’s children have witnessed worse, from Kim. They know their mother, and they know her struggle, probably better than anyone. The children of addicts get front row seats to the shit show.

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    Of course Li$a is right, generally speaking … but we ARE talking Kim here. Rinna blew a rare opportunity to gain some viewer support when she took the high road by apologizing to Kim (even though IMO, it was SHE who was owed an apology), but instead she took things too far the next day by calling Kyle an enabler, not to mention the “near death” talk. But back to Li$a, she’s hardly one to preach about “humiliating” anyone … j/s.

    • wellWellwell

      Speaking of ‘humiliating’ have you read Rinna’s blog..

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        No, I usually depend on Beach and Terri. Where do we find these blogs?

        • wellWellwell

          Over on Bravo’s website. I should have waited for the recap here, you ain’t missing nothing but excuses.

  • Deanna777

    One could say that Rinna is an enabler to her husband. I read he has only been sober for a few years. Oh, I guess she doesn’t want to talk about that; she would rather talk about someone’s else’s struggle with sobriety.

    • wellWellwell

      Harry looks so skinny these days. I don’t know if it’s age or something is wrong with him.

      • Deanna777

        It’s being married to Lisa Rinna.

        • wellWellwell

          LOL Yup that will do it. At least he gets a break when he’s away with work.

          • Deanna777

            And when he’s at their home in Canada while she’s on QVC.

          • wellWellwell

            I didn’t know they have a house in Canada, I thought that was part of his work..good for him, I know he regrets marrying that wack job.

          • Deanna777

            Rinna said they have a cabin up there. In an earlier episode, she said the girls were there with him while she was in California.

          • wellWellwell

            Ok I missed that because I ff a lot of her scenes. I guess I assumed it was for work.

          • MBB14

            You “know”
            Maybe you “think”

          • wellWellwell

            huh?

      • Bryan

        they don’t feed him

        • wellWellwell

          No food in the house huh..makes sense if Rinna lives there.

          • Bryan

            Yes!

  • MBB14

    I think that initially Lisa R was expressing concern and that was fine. But when you see that it is either failling on deaf ears or is counter productive and causing stress to the one who you are supposedly concerned about, and you know that family is aware, you can STFU.

    Kyle is either embarrased or fed up with years of helping. If family is out, she should be too.
    Why persist?

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    On last week’s ep at game night, the camera caught Kim smoking or possibly puffing on an electronic cigarette, (I doubt Kyle would allow smoking in her home). But regardless, it gave me pause and suggests to me that Kim isn’t serious about conquering “addiction”. It’s been my experience that being completely “clean” means just that … NO addicting substances which can even include caffeine and nicotine. These electronic ciggies, patches, pills etc; keep the “habit” of smoking in your life; they’re just the lesser of the two evils. As a former smoker, cold turkey is the only way that worked for me along with a total lifestyle change … and puffing on an electronic cigarette is like going to a bar and ordering water. She also has so business going to “game nights” (parties) where everyone around her are drunk as skunks. In short, Kim doesn’t seem completely clean to me, but I know that sometimes they medicate addicts. again, the lesser of two evils so who knows.

    • Looks like the long-term effects of alcohol have really got to her. I don’t think she will be able to function without some type of medication to battle the addiction. Some will need depression treatment to cope with life without the numbing of alcohol. I wish she would get off TV because people’s opinions definitely affect her. I am rooting for her to win. I do wonder how she was able to raise her kids (who seem lovely) without doing some major damage. Must be the definition of a functioning addict.

      • Sunflower

        I am rooting for Kim as well to conquer her demons.
        She looked great in her “Talking-Head” and didn’t seem spastic, as we have come to know her.
        She is 52 years old and is still here on Earth.
        Seeing her excitement talking about her first grandchild being born, might have given her a boost to “get better”.
        How many people do we know have gone to rehab several times, but after a wall fall right back into addiction (Brooke Mueller).
        Conquering addiction is fighting a life-long demon. It has its ups and downs.
        Funny, how some think that a 3 month rehab stint is the permanent answer for a cure.
        It Is Not…

        • It sure is not. She will have to battle each day hour by hour and there is no rehab facility to keep you there for life. I hope she does have some type of suppo group or program she is following because she won’t be able to do it on her own. She never had a chance to grow up and learn to be a functioning, responsible, strong adult prior to her addiction so it’s very difficult to overcome ones life long learned habits.

          • Sunflower

            What is amazing about Kim is that she raised 4 level-headed children. They all seem very close and care deeply for her.
            Thinking… must be a reason why she is still alive and kicking!
            (Kicking… Rinna about Harry – LOL)!!

    • Madge

      Coffee and cigarette use among AA members is greater than the US population. Most AA members drink coffee for its stimulatory effects. Many smoke to reduce feelings of depression, anxiety and irritability.

      Eden, another sober person was smoking too. There was an ashtray sitting next to her when she was seating next to the pool.

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        I know it totally depends on the program for sure. I used to give a guy I worked with rides to and from his meetings and they were ALL smoking and guzzling the caffeine. However, I maintain that smoking is not only another form of addiction, but at least for me, it was too closely associated with partying and such. I’ve never had addiction issues, but I did smoke for 25 yrs., and when I quit I, the partying just naturally went away with it (to my great surprise). In short, if I couldn’t have a cigarette with drink, then I didn’t want a drink!

      • Nancysue

        Good eye-

  • Jennymckitty

    Great blog, Terri. You and LVP got it right. LVP and Kyle have been friends long before this show started. Lisa probably knows way more about Kyle and has heard more about Kim than anyone else on the show. I’m sure there are many stories she could tell, but she doesn’t. Even when she and Kyle were on the outs and Kim went after her, she has been very supportive and discrete about the sister’s relationship . Rinna has been on the scene for one hot minute and has exploited everything she knows. I know Rinna has known Kyle for awhile but Eileen had never met either of them. Somehow both of them felt comfortable making Kim’s addiction their main storyline. Kyle needs to see Rinna for what she is…a user.

    • HankyPanky

      Exactly, I reckon LVP knows how to keep a secret, & does!! If I was in trouble LVP would be the one to go to for help. I’ve not forgotten when Taylor had a melt down, LVP said “I know we’re not close friends but I am here to help & support you”. Taylor later replied ” if you can’t be my friend, please don’t be my enemy” jeeze, LVP cannot win!!

  • Lila

    I hope LVP rips into Eileen . She deserves it. Rinna ,Eileen and now that Eden are desperate to stay on the show. Used to like Rinna. She was loud and funny and witty. No more.

  • sideof Sour Cream

    I can’t watch this show anymore if it’s going to focus on the totally annoying and rotten Kim Richards.

  • Jeff

    They need to replace the Pat the Puss lady. She seems shallow, hypocritical and so fake. She and the producer for her video’s look ridiculous with their big lips. They need to stop the juvederm injections! Rinna, and Eileen act like puppy dogs around this Pat the Puss lady. They are sickening. Rinna is using Eden who seems to be desperate and a pushover.