‘RHOA’ Recap: Kandi Burruss Exposes Phaedra Parks’ Lies & Spills Her Secrets In EPIC Blowout!

Posted on Dec 19 2016 - 8:05am by Dani-K

We begin this week’s episode of The Real Housewives of Atlanta with a scary scene – Porsha is killing two birds with one stone, and the two birds are Phaedra’s kids!

Porsha is babysitting Ayden and Dylan so she can see what it’s like to have kids and Phaedra is going out so she can see how to get her freak on. Five minutes in and Porsha can’t handle the boys because they are smarter. Finally its bedtime and Porsha tells a story about a princess who will grant three wishes. How about these: 1) Don’t have children alone. 2) Don’t approach a man like a sperm donor. And 3) Don’t think babysitting is like having kids.

Next, we are with stage momager Sheree and her son Kairo. Kairo has decided to cash in on his good looks and Sheree is managing baby’s first photoshoot by objectifying her son with no shirt and a greasy chest. Bob walks in and halts everything so he can show how it’s done. Thankfully Sheree shuts this down, but Bob warns Kairo not to pose in Speedos. Good advice! Make sure it’s tighty whities.

Over at Kenya’s house we get another look at her broken garage window and learn the old adage still applies — people shouldn’t live in glass garages – but what’s a girl to do? Why… call her daddy! Kenya gives dad, Ronald, the 411 on the Matt situation. Ronald thinks Matt needs professional help so he tells Kenya to book him on the next flight. Kenya is worried that something’s gotta give and hopefully that give is — Ronald knocking some sense into Matt’s head.

Meanwhile, Cynthia is the owner of a gorgeous new house and is completely stunned by this news. Was she hoping to get turned down? Cynthia says she’s been praying for this house and her prayers were answered! Hallelujah! Hopefully her prayers will be answered on how to pay for this big ass new mortgage. Moving on up!

Kandi is having a business meeting when Phaedra’s assistant calls to set up dinner for her and Kandi – never mind how much more it would mean if the call actually came from Phaedra. Kandi agrees to the meeting though doesn’t ask what the agenda is – and we all know there is one. DonJuan suggests that maybe Phaedra wants to discuss the bomb threat. Spoiler alert: he’s right. Kandi recaps how Phaedra claimed that Drama was only there to drop off his music which was “da bomb.” Everyone in the room busts a gut over this twisted version of the truth. Kandi also shares how Mama Joyce told the ladies at the luncheon that Drama was tired of being messed with and wanted to blow Phaedra the “f*ck up.” Kandi wants to know why, if Phaedra ain’t worried about her safety, does she have a bodyguard? Or is her bodyguard actually her boyfriend the infamous Mr. Chocolate?

Across town at Phaedra’s office, Drama’s mama stops by to tell Phaedra she has nothing to worry about, her son isn’t going to kill her. Phaedra says she’s tired of people trying to turn this bomb threat into something it isn’t. And this is why Phaedra has called to set up dinner with Kandi so she can tell her to shut Mama Joyce up and down. Drama’s mama and Phaedra lament over how cruel the world is that we live in.

Over at Porsha’s mom’s house, sperm donor Todd is invited over for family dinner. Little does Todd know, he’s on the menu: Toddster mac & cheese. He scores points by scooting Porsha’s mom’s chair closer to the table – even though she is already sufficiently pushed up to the table. And when asked to say grace, Todd declines and defers to the lady of the house. It takes a while for Todd to find his tongue, but he shares that he has two sons, 16 and 14. Lauren asks Todd if he wants to start over at this stage, and it takes a long ass moment for him to answer, but Todd eventually says “under the right circumstances” which is code for “not if he has a say so.” Todd tells everyone his feelings are genuine, then tells Porsha he loves her and kisses her at the table in front of everyone. Awkward!

Kenya’s dad arrives and checks out the broken windows of the garage. Kenya cooks some fish for her father, he listens to what went wrong with Matt. Ronald recites Corinthians verse that says; love is patient, love is kind, love don’t go around breaking windows. Kenya is convinced that Matt loves her and he’s a solid person, however, Matt’s path is filled with debris right now. Ronald wants a meeting set up with Matt so he can see what in the hell is going on with this dude.

Cynthia, Sheree and Kairo meet up to discuss the modeling industry. After Cynthia glances through Kairo’s look-book, she asks to see the real goods and tells Kairo to lift his shirt. Sheree says she wants Kairo to be in New York’s fashion week which is like the Super Bowl of modeling. Cynthia says he needs to learn how to walk before he can run, so just sit back down, Sheree. Based on Sheree’s handling of Chateau Sheree, Kairo’s modeling career should take off in five years.

Kenya and her dad are at a cigar shop to meet up with Matt for the man-to-man talk and they wait and wait. Kenya checks her phone to find 17 messages from Matt saying he’s not coming. Ronald has Kenya call Matt and hand him the phone. Matt tells Ronald he is tired of being manipulated by Kenya. Ronald asks about the garage windows to which Matt says he doesn’t want to discuss this over the phone. Then get your ass over to the cigar shop! Matt wants an apology from Kenya, but his tone is all wrong, so he ain’t getting one.

Lo and behold, guess who finally shows up? Ronald schools Matt on the proper way to treat women, and that according to Kenya, Matt’s THE ONE, except for the anger, so he needs to start acting like it. Matt says that Kenya crosses lines and boundaries. Kenya says she has zero patience for bullshit. Matt says it’s hard to deal with someone who doesn’t think they have any flaws. Kenya says she wants to be safe and not with someone who tears up her house. Nothing is accomplished. Outside, Ronald gives Matt advice to walk off and don’t look back if he’s not in it to win it. After a final glance at Kenya, Matt walks off and doesn’t look back.

Now for showdown number two! Phaedra and Kandi. After ordering water, Phaedra brings up what Mama Joyce said at the luncheon about Drama. Kandi says she has no control over what comes out of Mama Joyce’s mouth and was only repeating what was on the news. Phaedra gets on her soapbox and says her crusade is to help black men and make black people better. Not including Apollo. Kandi asks about Phaedra’s bodyguard. Turns out, Mr. Chocolate the bodyguard was a gift from her parents.

Phaedra says they both are taking jabs at each other and Kandi says she’s only speaking the truth. Phaedra says if anyone should be angry it’s her – she’s a single mom. Kandi too was once a single mom and tells Phaedra to get real, she was ready to get rid of Apollo anyway. Phaedra says the reason for her pity-party and crying to NeNe over their friendship and not Apollo was because she loved Kandi more than she loved Apollo. Hand me a handkerchief, would you! After they each give each other fake best-wishes, Kandi walks out. It’s official, Kandi and Phaedra’s friendship is over!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone! The Real Housewives of Atlanta will be on break next week and will return Jan 1. See ya next year!

 

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  • BetteDavisEyez1

    Happy Holidays Dani-K, all the writers at AATT & the posters.

    • Dani-K

      Thanks Bette! You too. I’m not ready, but Christmas is on its way no matter what. Have a blessed one.

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    #TeamKandi

    • Evil Queen

      Like Kandi too ! Kandi may have her issues, but being a true friend is not one of them!

    • melanctha

      Khandi ain’t shit.

      • WeCouldBeHeroes

        She wrote No Scrubs and so many DC hits. That already makes her shit.

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    That friendship is dunzo

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    I hate Porsha and all her scenes. Everything about her is wrong. As soon as she opens her mouth…. my brain suffers. I don’t buy Phaedra and Porsha’s friendship is either. Seems like Phae Phae just needs a soldier

    • Shelly Jones

      Me too. Dumb as bricks. Shallow. Void of substance. Porsha.

      • WeCouldBeHeroes

        I missed the scene but apparently Ayden said to Porsha “I don’t trust you” LMAOOOOOOOOO
        I tune out when Porsha is on

      • WeCouldBeHeroes

        Not only that. She is so ratchet. It’s embarrassing

    • GetReal2014

      Yep.

  • takenaback

    Kandi did not just shatter the glass wall of friendship code she broke thru with a vengeance

    • WeCouldBeHeroes

      Im happy for her. Glad she got rid of that cow

      • melanctha

        Khandi and Phaedra had no reltionship. What Khandi did was rude and mean spirited.
        She took Apollo’s side against her friend. Talk about effed up girl code. It is Pheadra’s life, not Khandi’s to coment on. Khandi is a vile hood rat!

        • Viva La Diva

          Because Phaedra wasn’t completely innocent in his shenanigans, she may not have participated but she most definitely knew what he was up to and was ok getting money from it. Kandi is a ride or die girl and thinks Phaedra was a dirty bitch for acting like she was just one of many fooled by Apollo and turned her back on him immediately. I think that’s messed up for Phaedra to be ok with what he was doing, as long as he didn’t get caught. Then just get rid of him like yesterdays trash.

        • WeCouldBeHeroes

          Phae Phae tried to throw Kandi under the bus
          I’m sure Fakedra be commenting about Kandi’s life

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    On the one hand, I think Kenya is a phony and annoying. On the other, I kinda feel sorry for her. Her relationship with Matt is wrong. That is not love. Love doesn’t hurt. People who love each other don’t behave like that. Her lack of relationship experience is showing.

    • Marcy Scrot

      The problem with Kenya is that no one will ever love her as much as loves herself It’s all about her all the time and has to go back 30 years to be of any importance.

      • WeCouldBeHeroes

        Haha. So true. Miss America or whatever it is. I keep forgetting. is it Miss America or Miss USA
        Chile, nobody know the difference
        She is a total narcissist

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    Phaedra did not that see coming. She was left at the table all by herself.
    She really thought she was gonna call Kandi and check her.
    Well. Kandi flipped that on its head.

    • GetReal2014

      That was wonderful. Phaedra looked lost.

  • Elizabeth Fisher

    As much as I think Kandi brings nothing to the show, she had me LMFAO last night when she said Phaedra should be on “How to Get Away With Murder” because she has a million f*cking excuses.

    Now that we know there really is a “Mr. Chocolate,” am I the only one that thinks Phaedra’s youngest son is NOT Apollo’s child?

    • RonnieRIB

      Mama’s baby, poppa’s maybe….right here witcha!

    • Evil Queen

      Interesting?

    • Dani-K

      Lordy, lordy. What a mess.

    • Bobbi

      You are not the only one…..been saying it for a couple seasons. It’s why Apollo got her that piñata full of condoms right after the youngest was born AND Apollo also stopped claiming him for a hot minute when he first got indicted.

      • Elizabeth Fisher

        It seemed like there were a couple of times when Apollo talked about his “son,” not his “sons.”

        • Bobbi

          Exactly. Phaedra’s can go on and pay her last respects to her credibility now. It’s deader than a doorknob.

          • GetReal2014

            It’s about time her lies blew up in her face. Long overdue.

      • GetReal2014

        Exactly. No husband will ever give you condoms. Period!!!!

    • GetReal2014

      I never believed that he was. Apollo’s Freudian slip sealed it for me, and the condoms sealed the deal.

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    Was gross seeing She by She Aint pimp out her son like that. She is desperate for a check. I dont even get the sense that Kairo wants to do it. He sorta just going along with it because he does have a lot of potentail

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    Todd is Porsha’s paid storyline. That relationship fake as fuck.
    Telling her he loves her. Bye

  • RonnieRIB

    Great recap Dani!!!

    I am SO GLAD KANDI OUTTED FAKEDRA AND ALL HER LIES. When Fakedra tried to infer she would tell her “long list of secrets” Kandi has, Kandi was like BRING IT BISH..AND IN FACT WHAT ABOUT MR. CHOCOLATE….etc….Fakedra was stunned and couldn’t speak (but was drinking vodka left and right before Kandi arrived. That’s her she gets….#Karma….

    Kenya.just move on Matt is certifiable..Period.

    SheBroke trying to pimp her son….hunny you are no Kris Jenner….you can barely keep ya own finances together…besides Kairo is okay looking and tall, but Morris Chestnut he isn’t…and he for damn sure isn’t Boris Kojoe or that fine ass man on Queen Sugar….he needs lessons, classes and needs to stop smoking weed….Next

    Kandi’s employees are hilarious, lazy..but they always have her back…especially Don Juan’s tea spilling azz

    Mama Joyce keep talking…please….Fakedra is afraid of you.

    Horsha…hooka nice try with the newest fake boyfriend…..this will end in 3, 2, 1…..

    • WeCouldBeHeroes

      Kandi got her laundry list too. *SCREAMING*
      I never seen her so bossed up like that!

      • GetReal2014

        You’re right. Bossed up is perfect for what happened.

    • dj j

      Horsha lol, you got another one that you will have defend gay rumors about

    • Dani-K

      Too funny Ronnie. Boris is yummy! But maybe Kairo can do something with this. Who knows, one door opening can lead to another. And that scene (2nd now) with Kandi and her krew sitting around, I was thinking “how much do they get paid” and “is she hiring”?

      Have a merry, merry Christmas!

    • GetReal2014

      Totally on point about errythang.

  • Shelly Jones

    It’s shocking that people believe and support Pha. She is a liar and is the most fake one on the show. I’m glad Kandi aired her ass out…I was cracking up when she said she had chocolate melting in her mouth. She should’ve called her the head doctor…LOLOLOL. Meanwhile we need Moore of Kenya’s dad. He’s sweet and his therapy session was the most sensible scene on this show in a while.

    • RonnieRIB

      Agreed 100%

    • ScrappieONE

      I like Kenya’s dad too and Bob Whitfield.. I think he’s a hoot.. I completely forgot about the Head Doctor comment… lol

      • the underground train

        Bob scares me. With his wonky eye and profuse sweating.

        • Shelly Jones

          Bob’s sweating is really scary, he should wear a sweatband and a sports bra…lol. (Sorry Bob)

        • PCpolice

          How did they produce such a handsome young man?

    • Dani-K

      Head doctor – lol! Here’s what stood out at me during Kenya’s scene with her dad and Matt. There was absolutely no joy in her face. I think she knew then things weren’t going to work out. But kudos for putting herself out there – and on reality tv. That hurts double.

      • Shelly Jones

        Dani- Great Recap. Yeah I feel bad for Kenya. I hope she finds a man her speed.

        • Dani-K

          Thanks Shelly! Merry Christmas! I want Kenya to find someone too. Cynthia will probably meet someone the fastest, compared to Kenya, Porsha, and Phaedra.

          • Shelly Jones

            Agreed and Merry Christmas!

    • WeCouldBeHeroes

      Im shocked she has stans

  • ScrappieONE

    Shady Phaedra needs to have a seat. I swear these women on these reality shows are either really into themselves or complete idiots or both to think we believe their crap. I never believed Shady from day one.

    • Shelly Jones

      Me either.

    • CB

      Why isn’t Phaedra in jail.. you know that she was “involved” in what Apollo was doing.. so why is she walking the streets and no one investigating her?? what the heck?

  • the underground train

    As much as Phaedra lies and looks bad when caught in a lie; Kandi (or production) is doing herself no favors gossiping about Phaedra with her Krew. To me Kandi’s best seasons was when she was coaching Kim how to sing, writing “The Ring Doesn’t Mean a Thing”, producing the play “A Mother’s Love”, and checking Porsha for not making rehearsals. I absolutely loved it when Tyler Perry showed up to play’s opening night when Nene claimed that she had known him yet he wouldn’t return her calls, lol. Or when she tried to cross over into country music. This mean mugging “I am so above Fakedra” just does not sit right with me. Sit back relax, give us more scenes with her working on her music or her adorable Ace and let the lies pile on Phaedra.

  • nutz4reality

    What is with the forehead sweat that is always on Sheree’s ex husband Bob. I keep thinking he is going to flood the set. Can’t they afford to provide a forehead mopper for him? He must need the $$ because he acts the fool in every scene they provide for him.

    Plus I hate those fake scenes between Phaedra and Porsha where they are laughing and throwing their arms up a each other about dating ….they do it in practically every episode.

    • Dani-K

      Maybe Bob is going through man-o-pause. Seriously, so much sweat I’m worried about the guy.

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        He betta cut down on those “two-pieces and a biscuit”.

    • warped

      He is a fat nasty cross eyed fuck and no way sheree rides that like she did before because he has no money now

  • Evil Queen

    Merry Christmas!
    I finally broke down , & watched the social edition, & this week’s episode.
    Don’t mess with Mama Joyce! 😃.
    ” Drama was going too blow u the f$%k
    👆!”
    I’m glad Kandi spoke the truth with Fakedra! Fakedra is a fraud.

  • Sunflower

    Kandi has not spilled any secrets.
    Phaedra’s lies, deceit and underhanded shenanigans are just playing out in Real Time.
    Phaedra thought “she could get away with murder”..!!!

    • GetReal2014

      Right, all of this was common knowledge for those that read between the lines and question dubious statements. Phaedra has a lot of confidence in her ability to fool and manipulate others, but she only has a small niche of fans.

      • Sunflower

        The way I see Phaedra is… that as a girl coming of age… she has been “pulling the wool” over her parents eyes… and has been continuing that process into her adult life to the tune of full blown promiscuity: “Head Doctor”..!
        She has a very dark side to her that is uncontrollable and has escalated, affecting everyone who crosses her path.
        Her first Television deceit was to crown herself a “Southern Belle”… masking her whorish ways.
        Her snarking has never been funny… just also masking how she really feels about her friends!!!

        • GetReal2014

          I agree with everything. Phaedra’s mother never questions anything she says. That’s mind-blowing to me. My mother always got to the bottom of things and if you were lying there was hail to pay. But, I noticed that her mother goes along with any and everything without so much as one question. That’s foolish to believe anything hook, line and sinker.

          Her dark side has escalated because it goes unchecked. A person can’t get better in a situation like that.

          That Southern Belle bull was exactly what you said, a façade to hide her whorish ways.

          I can’t stand her snark. She’s not funny at all IMO. And some of her celebrated “reads” are full of holes and erroneous information. I can’t for the life of me see anything redeemable about this waste of oxygen.

          • Sunflower

            Well…
            Her dark side is now being checked front and center… to the tuning-in every week of millions of people watching her downfall.
            Hence… last night she was sipping her Vodka… and was reduced to mumbling to herself!!!

          • GetReal2014

            Yesss! In front of millions of viewers. That’s the best part. Kandi was awesome last night. Phaedra looked like a complete and utter fool.

  • PCpolice

    Not a huge fan of Kandi or mama Joyce, however; I was sure a big fan of Kandi’s read on Phaedra, especially to her face! While we’d heard the “Chocolate” rumors, she’d denied, we hadn’t any concrete proof, but now we do. She couldn’t deny, she didn’t deny, which means she was cheating on Apollo before he left. Like she couldn’t even wait till he departed?

    • Shelly Jones

      Apollo showed us proof! I believed him. lol

      • PCpolice

        Me too!

        • Bobbi

          Me 3!

      • Bobbi

        Yep. So did I. That text was Phaedra in print.

        • GetReal2014

          It read just like she speaks. Apollo didn’t make that up. That’s why he gave that prostitute condoms. Read between the lines, LOL.

      • GetReal2014

        So did I. Phaedra had pictures on the internet for %#%& sake. Typical Phaedra she does it in your face and dares you to call her on it.

    • BetteDavisEyez1

      Why should she have waited?!? He was clearly dating his now fiancée & spending all his time in strip clubs.

      • PCpolice

        I agree were she an ordinary folk, but with Phaedra, she’s always acted like she’s so much better than Apollo, and everyone else. She’s a phony.
        This is another case of pot meet kettle with her.

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          Actually it is not because Phaedra has never mentioned Apollo’s indiscretions. She knew he was cheating & was going away for 8 years so she started up with “Mr Chocolate”. I am not saying it’s right.
          It is her business & it wasn’t Kandi’s place to bring it up. How do you think Kandi would react if when she said to Phaedra “you knew who he was when you got with him!!” And Phaedra responded by saying “Well you knew Block was a married man when you had unprotected sex & conceived a child!!”?!?

          • PCpolice

            It’s worse imo, because Phaedra’s a total hypocrite, and acts holier than thou. She’s mocked Kenya and her first man. Then there’s my belief that she knew what she was doing to Apollo, but skated
            I just don’t care for this woman.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            We all mocked KM & Walter. LOL!!
            Phaedra has this uppity way about her that rubs people the wrong way. I get why some don’t care for her, but I just think she is one of the wittiest HW in the whole franchise & that is what I like about her.

          • PCpolice

            KM and Walter, a true love affair—-gag, LOL!
            While I dislike Phaedra, you’re right, she’s one of the wittiest.

  • fredalott

    When Kindi get her from todd !

  • italiano bambino

    Kandi was giving it to shadedra like no other boy that was fun to watch.

    Porsha just go buy a sperm stop the none sense clearly that guy just want the 🐱

    Kenya move on.

  • wellWellwell

    Cynthia’s advice on walking NY fashion week was lame considering so many other HW’s kids have walked in it and did NOT belong there. At least Sheree is trying a new angle to keep him occupied. I can see why ATL has decent ratings they sometimes revert back to what the show’s originally started as. (Sometimes)

  • Trippinhhard

    Thank you DaniK for a year of great tea.. Enjoy your time off..

    • Dani-K

      Thanks Trippin! Will do. Hope your holidays are wonderful.

      • Trippinhhard

        It will as long as I’m alive and with my family, it will be beautiful..
        Enjoy your break and have a beautiful holiday with family and friends..

  • LovelyAmberRose1

    I’m w Phaedra on this one. A man given a second chance, a national platform, a built-in fan base, a fitness empire and he wants to scam people? The possibilities were endless for Apollo if he would’ve taken advantage of the opportunities given to him by his wife. Instead he chose easy money and back to jail we go. He was playing Phae from get and she should play faithful, dutiful wife while he’s cheating, flossing at the strip club, not being w his family and all of the sudden she should take her children to jail because he made the wrong choices? Sure pal. The hate Apollo showed for his wife on camera was palpable yet Todd n Kandi want Phaedra to do the right thing by him…GTFOH w that old bullshit! Oh and I know.. Phaedra chose an ex-con to marry but that was it. An EX-CON. She gave him a chance and it didn’t work, how long should she be persecuted for that? If Phaedra was to be convicted it would’ve happened already so I think i’mma go w the guv-ment instead of nasty ass Mama Joyce n Midget Ass Todd as to who to blame for Apollo’s deeds.

    All I know is that there are more nuts in the street than in the nut house and more criminals free than those in jail. Felonious Apollo’s mistake was wanting quick money. Meanwhile Felon Free Todd, the square dude, has settled in for the long con and is repaid by a luxury giving, threesome allowing, horny investor w an anchor baby to boot.

    • Trippinhhard

      I like your read. lol
      Pot can’t call 🍳 black, because Kandi was sleeping with a married man..
      She knew he was married and having unprotected sex..
      I’m no fan of either, but I don’t think friends should tell each other secrets.
      She and Todd sided with Apollo, so that’s where her loyalty lies with.
      Her crew, her mother and herself are all disgusting.. They don’t get much work done, because she’s too personal with employees.. Fhedra been lying from day one, and so have the rest of them.. Fhedra introduced her to big head Todd, I think she forgot that.. I don’t watch the show any longer and I’m sick of Kenya and her paid for men and fake storylines.. All of the HWS have lost their appeal to me

      • Shelly Jones

        What Kandi did was years ago. We are talking about Pha’s deeds from last year.

        • Bobbi

          Thank you! 14 years ago to be exact. Come on now. Lol Phaedra’s bs is current because she is STILL lying.

          • GetReal2014

            She lied back then and never took a breath. She was just fooling with Chocolate a year ago. How does that make her better than Kandi?

          • Bobbi

            It doesn’t but folks will reach for anything to make Phaedra look better. Won’t work though. It is impossible.

          • GetReal2014

            Not going to happen. Too many people have seen through Phaedra for years. People aren’t writing books about your behind because nothing happened. They’re writing them because it’s true. And if you watch the show and can discern lies, there’s no way you’re trying to give Phaedra a break. She doesn’t deserve a break.

            She’s finally getting what she deserves…the cover being pulled off of her dastardly deeds. Exposed like the sociopath she is. She’s a user, a manipulator, and a chitty “friend.” Phaedra’s about Phaedra and everyone else is collateral damage.

          • Bobbi

            True. Not everyone is lying on Phaedra. So many have come out about her right down to her own husband. There have been two very negative books written about her. How many basic people do you know who inspire this kind of anger and action. Phaedra is the first one actually to be accused of having a sex dungeon. That’s how you know Phaedra put Porsha up to that bs. She got the idea from the book written about her.

          • GetReal2014

            I know. That’s ludicrous that EVERYONE would be lying on Phaedra. I remember reading about Phaedra’s sex dungeon and we know where Porsha got the word from.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if Phaedra didn’t put Porsha up to initiating that kiss between her and Kandi. That’s how diabolical she is. It would also explain why Porsha is so quiet. She doesn’t know how she got used. Phaedra didn’t tell her the entire plan and Porsha doesn’t know how to respond. Moron.

        • Trippinhhard

          Is that suppose to change my mind, I don’t think so..
          I stand by what I posted..

          • Shelly Jones

            You can stand til your feet fall off lol….. You gave your opinion, I have mine…that’s how comments sections work. The point is to have conversations…..not change minds.

          • Trippinhhard

            I wouldn’t stand long enough for these reality.. You are right opinions are like asshole, we all have one.. Also Kandi put in action what she did 14yrs ago, for a storyline.. She could have shut that shit down, someone had to let that woman in her place of business.. You can’t just walk off the street and go in there, so that’s the reason I said something about it.. I feel for Riley, because some things don’t need to be on TV.. That’s what I was trying to convey..

          • Shelly Jones

            I completely agree!…that’s quite low, Riley is too young to be a part of a story line. She didn’t ask for this. Merry Holidays!

          • Trippinhhard

            Same to you and enjoy your holidays..

        • GetReal2014

          Not only that, but look at what Phaedra did years ago with Angela Stanton, Apollo, Jessica Volker, Drama and a slew of people that we don’t even know about. Phaedra came out of the womb casting spells, evil witch that she is.

      • LovelyAmberRose1

        Thank you Trippin, I enjoy your ‘reads’ as well! LOL

        • Trippinhhard

          Thank you. LMAO

    • BetteDavisEyez1

      ^times 100. You summed it up perfectly. Well done.

    • behoro

      Errrr, you lost me at fitness empire. How does a wife NOT know what her husband is doing? It’s why he went to jail in the first place! And she wouldn’t be taking his kids to see their father in jail for him…..it should be for the kids.
      If anyone was playing anyone, they were playing each other.

      • LovelyAmberRose1

        Apollo lost the chance at running a fitness empire. Do you really not think he couldn’t have opened a GYM and had every slut in the ATL ready for a year long membership? You’ve never seen RHOC or heard of CutFitness?

        • behoro

          I personally don’t think he could’ve opened a gym and run it. I almost feel like enough people know about apollo’s/Phaedra’s shadiness that they wouldn’t be willing to give over any credit card numbers or bank info to them…..I mean, look what they did with people’s private info as it is….and that was with information they had to go out and steal. Who knows what they’d do with all the credit card info they had just handed to them! And I just don’t see Apollo as the type of person who would work their butt off to make something a success. He (obviously) wants to take the easy way out and make money by stealing rather than working hard.
          And yes, I’ve heard of RHOC and cutfitness. They have one gym. That does not an empire make.

          • GetReal2014

            Excellent points. Phaedra’s name is mud in Atlanta. No one would’ve entrusted their bank information to Phaedra and an ex-con. That’s why the video were produced for an online market.

            And Apollo is a fast buck kind of guy whose crimes have always been about theft. It’s not feasible that Phaedra’s “enterprises” would’ve worked with a convicted felon asking people for sensitive information.

  • Bobbi

    Phaedra is one lying, evil wretch. So now we know Phaedra lied about the divorce, the bomb threat, Mr Chocolate…..We know d*mn well now she lied about everything else too-including the Angela Stanton charges. I am convinced more than ever Phaedra not only knew what Apollo was doing but was heavily involved. Phaedra is far worse than Apollo could ever be.

    • Sugar in my tank

      Liar, liar weave on fire..Let’s not forget that Phaedra is a lawyer, a terrible one, but still a lawyer nonetheless..

      • Bobbi

        Ha! Yesirrrr. Phaedra knew what NOT to do for sure and she used everyone. If Phaedra wants to be near you, that is a clear indication from what we have seen that she has an agenda for your @ss. She uses and exploits everyone around her. Angela Stanton, Apollo and Drama and even Porsha were obvious indications but, Kandi fell under the radar because they were supposed to be best friends. In retrospect, Phaedra has never proven she is a friend to Kandi. It has always been Kandi backing Phaedra…..her stories, timelines and charges against everyone else. I don’t ever remember Phaedra coming to Kandi’s rescue. It’s clear now Phaedra exploited Kandi’s friendship for legitimacy. People knew her (Kandi) and she was seen as a straight shooter so the rationale that Phaedra banked on was if Kandi backed her and wanted to be her friend people would believe her…. so she stayed close to Kandi and it worked. Now that Kandi is no longer playing along, Phaedra is treating her just like she treated Kenya, Nene and everyone else she’s ever had beef with. Kandi is just collateral damage. Phaedra is evil incarnate.

        • GetReal2014

          This post is everything wrapped up in a box with a bow on top.

          That’s exactly why she “befriended” Kandi, for legitimacy! There isn’t a person that Phaedra hasn’t used. She is a disgusting POS and it’s time the devil got his due…um, that would be Phaedra.

          • Bobbi

            That’s all I see folks saying to Kandi; “She was your friend.” Since when? I’ve never seen it. Have you? That slimy heffa has never been about anyone except for herself.

          • GetReal2014

            I’ve seen that too, but I don’t get it. When was she a friend to Kandi? How did she demonstrate that? She needed Kandi to help her cover her lies. What did she do for Kandi?

            All I saw was her dogging out Kandi’s husband when SHE owed Todd money. And talking about MJ when MJ was checking her for coming after Kandi on two occasions. Phaedra also lied on Kandi saying that Kandi wasn’t there for her when Kandi had receipts for that too. She took Phaedra on vacation when they were talking about divorcing. She invited Phaedra to Fantasia’s party and had her in her wedding, then taping started and they were together every day, so what Phaedra said, didn’t happen. She was lying again.

            The better question is what did Phaedra do on her end? That’s what I’d like to know, because I didn’t see chit.

          • Bobbi

            That isnt the better question. It is THE question. Phaedra has been the recipient of of all the benefits of that friendship. Kandi should have walked away long ago.

          • GetReal2014

            Absolutely. Who didn’t know that it would come to this? It’s the same thing with Porsha. Some people believe that Phaedra is her friend even when she takes every opportunity on the sly to call her a whore in her talking heads.

            That’s not a friend, folks.

            Kandi should’ve never befriended that ghoul, at the first sign of trouble she should’ve been gone. That hoe ain’t loyal to her husband, what makes anyone think she’s going to be loyal to them?

          • Bobbi

            It’s true. Porsha never stopped to think about it because she’s just as rotten. Porsha will go to the gutter on her too.

          • GetReal2014

            That’s true. She’s a snake too, and a dumb one. Her time is coming too!

          • Marsbars09

            Also, Fake most likely brought “Mr. Chocolate” on that Mexican getaway Kandi and Todd invited her too while Apollo was getting ready to turn himself in to prison. And Kandi and Todd NEVER said a word! Girl, I wish I had a friend like that.

          • GetReal2014

            That’s how dumb she is. When someone knows all of your secrets, that’s not someone you go after.

            She did take Chocolate on the Mexican trip, and then she came up with White Chocolate, but there were two Chocolates, and the one on that trip hugging was not a woman.

          • GetReal2014

            Oh, wait a minute. This stupid stan on Twitter said, “What did Phaedra do to Kandi THIS SEASON.”

            Now how effing stupid is that? So Kandi is supposed to ignore all of that BS that Phaedra did, maligning her mother and husband, for what? Who TF is Phaedra with her nasty, whorish, pickle eating azz?

            Chick has been implicit in, and responsible for many people being in jail. Girl Effing Bye. She deserves everything she’s getting and more.

            That heifer’s tombstone should be at the police station as a deterrent against a life of crime. GHOH with that inane azz reasoning.

          • Bobbi

            Hahahaha! What kind of rationalization is that – This season? Her folks are really reaching. Nothing will be a deterrent for these types. They will always find an excuse for her even if she goes to jail. Thank goodness I don’t know anyone like these reprobates. That’s one f’d up bubble.

          • Marsbars09

            LOL!

          • GetReal2014

            More like an inability to reason, LOL. So everything that Phaedra did should be excused. Her attempted humiliation of Todd who we know had a job, as opposed to her jailbird who didn’t, and dumb azz said she could never pinpoint his career path. Not to mention that he’s in jail and Todd is steadily working. How does she get away with these stupid comments and actions?

            Kandi should also overlook all of her comments about MJ like that didn’t happen either. Oh, and the Kandi Coated Clique comments to turn viewers against Kandi.

            You’re right nothing will deter these people. This season? I couldn’t believe someone was that incredibly stupid, but it’s been proven and I’m a believer.

          • Marsbars09

            LOL! You’re so funny Real.

          • GetReal2014

            🙂

          • Marsbars09

            I didn’t see it. I was really disappointed to watch their friendship come apart just because Kandi gave her opinion about whether or not Fake should take the boys to see Apollo in prison. But as you say, it’s all about intonations, right? 😉

          • Bobbi

            That’s how you know it was insided. No real, solid friendship breaks over that nonesense.

          • Marsbars09

            I thought Fake was a star struck lawyer who loved to be in the company of celebrities, that’s why she sank her talons into Kandi(?).

          • GetReal2014

            Good point. Who knows how big Kandi is in Atlanta. Never thought about that. Thanks for that angle.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            BAHAHAHA!! Kandi is a celebrity in the ATL. Anywhere else in the country, she could walk down the street & no one would notice her.
            This is why she only wants to be in ATL. There she is a big fish in a small pond. Trust me, I don’t know anyone that knows who she is except for fans of the show.

        • Evil Queen

          Spot on!

        • Marsbars09

          Great commentary Bobbi. We will see in the coming weeks how Fake manipulates Porsha into claiming Kandi asked her to participate in some explicit activities with her and Todd.

          • Bobbi

            Thanks Mars, Yes we will dirty Phae at work again.

      • WeCouldBeHeroes

        She ain’t a lawyer

        • Sugar in my tank

          Regrettably she is.

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            She never won a case.

          • Sugar in my tank

            It doesn’t stop her from being an attorney, regrettably.

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      I don’t know who’s lying … and quite frankly don’t care. But since I detest Phaekdra more, Miss Kandi wins.

      • Bobbi

        Lol. I hear you. Phaedra’s track record is chit though. People have come out of the woodwork on her on this show and outside of the show. Everybody can’t be lying on Phaedra.

    • GetReal2014

      The better question is what hasn’t Phaedra lied about?

      • Bobbi

        You’re right!

    • Why is this happening to us?

      I don’t understand how you could live in a home with someone and sleep in the same bed and not know what they are doing. Where did she think he was going every day with his backpack? Where did she think he was getting all this money from? I’m not buying the innocent naive storyline.

      • Bobbi

        No one with any critical thinking skills believes there is any way in hail Phaedra of all people -a lawyer who has worked in the Criminal justice system and understands the recidivism rate for an already twice convicted felon – didn’t know Apollo wasn’t up to something nefarious. There was no way a convicted felon could legally make the kind of money Apollo was bringing in. We also know that “not caught” doesn’t mean not guilty.

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Exactly. For such a highly intelligent and educated woman, she sure is dumb! Or she thinks everyone else is…
          The key here is knowing that “not caught” doesn’t mean not guilty. I think it’s just a matter of time before she gets caught sooner or later for something. I’m sure the Feds are watching her ass.
          I’d love to know where she gets all her money from. We all know she is not making the majority of her income as an attorney or as a funeral director. I don’t think she can possibly be getting that much from the show to live the lifestyle she maintains.
          I’d love to know where she got $1.9 million dollars from to buy a new mansion… I don’t even think her current house was sold yet, so where is she getting all this money? She is also a single mother, so it’s not like she has anyone else helping her pay for the house and the bills. That house will cost her a small fortune to maintain between the mortgage, taxes, utilities etc. I think Shady Phae Phae knows way more than she wants us to think. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has some of that stolen money stashed away somewhere. Maybe Juicy Joe and Apollo are sharing tips at Ft. Dix. Smh.

          • Bobbi

            Well, Apollo stole 14 mil but only had to pay a little less than 2 mil back in restitution. You do the math. He didn’t make it rain worth 12 mil in the strip clubs. Like all criminals who get away over and over, Phaedra is getting sloppy. Even if Phaedra does no time she will be totally exposed eventually. Who knows she probably bought that house as “payback” for Apollo embarrassing her with that new fiancé.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Good point!
            She is getting sloppy and I’m sure she will get even sloppier over time and eventually caught/exposed. That’s how everyone gets caught…they let their guard down because they are getting away with it for so long and they think they are in the clear.
            I wouldn’t put it past her to buy the house as “payback.” Who do you know who gets divorced and then buys an even bigger, more expensive house? Don’t most single mothers downsize? 🤔 That home purchase is suspect right there.

          • Bobbi

            Word.

          • GetReal2014

            Um huh, and where do people think the rest of that money is?

            A plea bargain between Phaedra and Apollo. There’s no other place for that money to be. So knock it off acting like Phaedra can hold onto one house and buy another one when everyone knows that she doesn’t have a consistent job.

            I rest my case.

          • Bobbi

            Thank you. When Apollo was commanding her to have his chit when he got out, he didn’t mean his underwear. That house purchase is suspect. I bet Phaedra bought that house to either pay Apollo back for allowing Todd to trot his side piece onto the show or she’s trying to find ways to protect the money. But a trust is not foolproof and we know she is the biggest fool walking.

          • GetReal2014

            Everything Phaedra does is suspect. This purchase seems too hasty, so I think there’s some stink there too. Maybe she’s going to give Apollo the other house. He said he wasn’t going to an apartment, LOL.

          • GetReal2014

            Something isn’t clean, especially since it’s coming from Phaedra’s dirty hands. But nothing with Phaedra is clean cut so going by her history there’s a crime in her getting the new house. She’s either paying him off, or trying to stiff him. Either way, Phaedra is sure to be in the wrong.

        • GetReal2014

          It is impossible that Phaedra was clueless while living with a career criminal with no job, but who can afford to spends thousands of dollars in one night.

          Phaedra not being caught does not imply innocence. The Feds were never able to get Capone on racketeering, but that didn’t mean Capone wasn’t racketeering. That is one of the weakest excuses I’ve seen on boards everywhere. “She hasn’t been caught.” A lot of people haven’t been caught, but they’re still criminals if they committed the act.

          That would mean that the justice system catches every crook and no one ever slips under the radar. Ludicrous.

          • Bobbi

            Anyone pretending to buy that bullchit can’t face the truth. Bottom line.

          • GetReal2014

            Exactly, because that logic doesn’t work in real life. Everyone knows that every crime committed is not brought to justice. Pretending you believe that illuminates a person’s dishonest nature, IMO.

          • Bobbi

            …and there is no way to get around that fact. No wiggle room at all.

          • GetReal2014

            Funny how people keep trying it though. Sometimes you have to know when you’re wrong, admit it and move on. Beating a dead horse is redundant.

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    I can appreciate Kandi stepping up her game and trying to breathe some life into this mess, but RHOA has just really just gone to shit. All of their respective (fake) asses just annoy me at this point, rather than entertain. The pretentious fakery is just too much.

    • wellWellwell

      Well..as Kandi would say, she herself is stepping in it too. These two idiots had a good thing going and both ruined it. No better friendship than Kandi and Phaedra, they both ruined it.
      I don’t want to see Phaedra letting someone (Porsche) babysit her kids who can outwit the babysitter, all for a SL. I’m with ya, what happened to the ATL?

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        The shelf lives for these people are 4 or 5 yrs. max and most of them have simply overstayed their welcome(s). I think it’s more apparent in the ATL than any of the other franchises. I would recast the entire mess.

  • Gingertee

    Kandi was one of the folks who confirmed that Phaedra had a friend named White Chocolate, who is female. There were pics of her and Phaedra online because Phaedra threw her a baby shower. Kandi is now telling the world about a man named Chocolate. If this is true and it was confided to Kandi as a close friend, she is the worse type of trick for telling. Mama Joyce talks about everybody and they are just supposed to take it, in what world is that acceptable? Kandi is as shallow and petty as her mom there is a special place in hell for a folks like her.

    If Phaedra lies, she lies about her own life and her situations and it does not effect them so why can’t those losers at the Kandi Factory find something else to talk about. Aren’t they supposed to be working on music and sex toys. Karma knows where everyone lives and when this comes back Kandi is going to do more than talk ish, she is going to have to eat it.

    • Marsbars09

      Whew! Tell it Ginger! I agree Kandi should not have confirmed Fake’s extramarital affair with Mr. Chocolate. Kandi had no problem with it while she and Fake were friends.
      And you would think Kandi has a lot more important things to do than worry about what Fake is doing.

      • Squirrelgirl

        Completely agree. I think Phaedra is shady, but Apollo is the one who was runnning around on her, is an ex-con, now con, visiting strip clubs. So what if she had a man on the sid, he probably had dozens. She hurt no one and she is a good mother. Kandi and her mother are despicable. It isn’t mama Joyce’s business when Phaedra gets a divorce and Kandi and all her leeches need to find someone else to put on blast Toddler is just another new leech.

        • Shelly Jones

          You all fell for Pha’s false narrative and that’s precisely why Kandi is done protecting her “friend” who threw their friendship under the bus last season by telling everyone on the show she was mad at Kandi EXCEPT Kandi. Pha has been misleading the viewers for years pretending she’s this christian southern bell and butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth. The opposite is true. IMO she was involved in the crimes that got Apollo arrested the first time, Angela Stanton’s book is true, IMO Pha knew what Apollo was involved in (the second time) and told him not to do it and he would be on his own if he got caught. We saw him act like a child and we saw her treat him like one. There was no love and affection in that marriage that I saw on the show. Kandi knew what was going on in real life and was shocked that her “friend” (pha) would go on tv, and make a story line of her (fake) devastation at her husband’s impending prison sentence. Pha made a big production to paint Apollo as evil and dangerous. She even had a minister come to “cleanse” her home of evil once Apollo left. Pha went on and on about being a poor little single mother when she was getting surgery while she owed Todd for a business deal that had nothing to do with Apollo. I’m glad to see Pha get exposed.

          • Bobbi

            Oh, you just broke it right on down! Yes to ALL of this and not only did she tell someone else she was upset with Kandi, she told the one woman she knew Kandi despised and would set Kandi off. The woman who had dogged and shaded BOTH of them but, especially Kandi since their first seasons on the show. She felt Phaedra was disclosing her confidences and knew Nene would gloat over anything negative she would hear. Her supposed best friend basically colluded with her enemy. That’s huge! Why are folks trying to minimize that?

            Also, I bet Kandi found out through Apollo once he started spilling his guts to Todd that Phaedra lied to her about a lot that she had put herself on the line to defend her for. As she said this last episode- Phaedra has one story for the street and another for “this group of friends.” Like you said Kandi is done covering for her and Phaedra deserves exactly what she is getting.

          • GetReal2014

            Amen!

          • GetReal2014

            The best part of this awesome post…

            “Phaedra’s false narrative.”

            In order for any of the refutations to make sense it starts with whether or not you believe a word that Phaedra says.

            Many of us don’t believe ANYTHING that Phaedra says, so she has no case to plead as we already know that it will be full of lies.

          • Shelly Jones

            We know she’s lying cause her lips are moving.

          • GetReal2014

            She’s never failed viewers in that regard.

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        It is refreshing to see that some people are mature enough to admit that Kandi is dead wrong for what she is doing to Phaedra. Even if you can not stand Phaedra, you aren’t blinded by hate & trying to justify everything that is done to her. Kudos. LOL!!

    • WeCouldBeHeroes

      1. First paragraph made no sense.
      2. People are allowed to talk. They all talk
      Last season, Phae, Porsha and her pal were outside an event talking about Todd and how the money owed caused the dissolution of Phae & Kandi’s friendship. That was a lie and they were being messy and shady, just like Phaedra always is.
      3. Phae’s lies do affect Kandi because she lies about her!

      • GetReal2014

        Yes to all of this. Phaedra’s lies affect everyone she’s told them on. Now Kandi is being crucified for telling the truth?

        Phaedra went after Kandi first, starting with that ginormous lie about Kandi not being there for her. She sure wasn’t trying to make Kandi look good. She was trying to turn the fans against her.

        Phaedra is getting exactly what she put out into the universe. She deserves it. Her credibility is shot with her lying azz.

        • WeCouldBeHeroes

          Like @sunflower stated, her stans are trying to get a top quality sewing machine but the needed still breaking!!!!

          • GetReal2014

            We, you are cracking me up. Seriously, I love seeing your name over a post because I know I’m going to get a laugh. You are so funny.

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            Likewise. I like how you keep it real. No fools here

          • GetReal2014

            You keep it real too. It’s like another breath of fresh air on the board.

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            I noticed another site full of stans. Scary

        • Bobbi

          Truth! And Phaedra ran to the very person Kandi despised for a reason! Folks kill me trying to minimize the fact that this slick bish who was supposed to be Kandi’s best friend joined ranks with the person who had caused Kandi the most angst on this show. She couldn’t stand Nene for that and felt Nene hated her. They had both dragged Nene for filth and now you’re over there riding with her? That’s some deep chit for you’re”best friend” to do to you. You can tell Kandi is STILL pissed over that thing and I don’t blame her one bit. Hail yeah Phaedra’s is getting what she deserves.

          • GetReal2014

            Right, and who is stupid enough to actually believe that Nene was there for Phaedra? Give me a break. Nene has never been able to stand Phaedra and there’s still animus between them, and always will be.

            But what we know about both of these vindictive wenches is that they’ll do anything to exact revenge on someone, even ally with someone that they despise.

            Your “friend” would never band against you with your enemy and dog you out on camera. That right there proved that Phaedra had never been a friend. Ain’t nobody listening to that BS! Crazy!

          • Bobbi

            There is no one honest with themselves who would be ok with watching their best friend doing that bullchit. An even bigger slap in the face was to see Nene at Phaedra’s home and hearing the two of them discussing her. These heffa’s don’t know a [email protected] thing about girl code. That was supposed to be ok though. GTHOH.

          • GetReal2014

            I agree. You have to put yourself in those situations and see how you would feel, and no one in their right mind would be OK with that crap. I don’t believe that for one minute.

            But anything to pretend that Phaedra is right. GTHOH with a quickness!

          • Bobbi

            Then you’re going to follow that bs up with lesbian gate. Kandi and her momma are not on the warpath for nothing. All bets are off!

          • GetReal2014

            Right, and Kandi and Co. are supposed to totally ignore all of these character assassinations and lies.

            Phaedra acting like Todd was a bum when he had two shows going at the same time is just foul. For her to pretend that he was a kept man without a job is total BS. How can Phaedra be right in trying to put Todd in that light? She can’t. There is no excuse for her behavior.

            Kandi even took the high road on that one, she could’ve exposed Phaedra’s complicity in Apollo’s crime, but she didn’t.

            Phaedra has nothing to be mad at Kandi for, and conversely, Kandi has plenty of reasons to be angry at Phaedra, it’s just not the BS that Phaedra is spewing.

          • Bobbi

            But it shows just how big of a punk Phaedr took Kandi to be. To come for her and her husband over and over and make it seem as if Todd was somebody she took off the street and that she needed to pay him to be with her. The nerve too, when she scraped her man off of skid row. Phaedra was also trying to give his business reputation and sulky his name in his industry. . Now you’re messing with the man’s livelihood. But that’s how Phaedra rolls- always goes for the jugular and hitting below the belt. Fk girl code, that was as low as you can go. Over her dusty @ss DVD that she know [email protected] well she owed him for at that.

            I amended my last post to say that Kandi warned Phaedra at the reunion that she couldn’t continue to hit below the belt-and there was a line you should not cross. That she could go there too but she was trying to honor the friendship but Phaedra didn’t listen. Kandi didn’t cross that line. Shecess PUSHED over it. Now you gets what you get. You deserve every bit of it.

          • GetReal2014

            That’s Phaedra’s M.O., she relies on her ability to manipulate others, and when she saw Kandi being ride or die and holding all her secrets, Phaedra misjudged Kandi’s heart and intentions. She thought she had Kandi snowed, but she didn’t know Kandi very well.

            I knew Kandi would eventually buck and that it wouldn’t be pretty, didn’t you? You could see it whenever Kandi was involved in an altercation, keep on with her and she would lose control and kick your azz.

            Phaedra’s lies are strategic. They serve a specific purpose. A great example is her ulterior motive in going after Todd, knowing that what she said wasn’t true, but she attached that to the fact that many fans felt that Todd was an opportunist and therefore it made her lies go down easier.

            The things with Phaedra is she wants to annihilate others while she continues to smile in their face. Another lie, Kandi wasn’t there for her. As tight as they were, you wouldn’t call your friend and inquire about her absence in your time of need. She never told Kandi any of that, instead she runs to Kandi’s foe?

            How do people try to defend this inanity? Or maybe it’s me, but I think Phaedra is a total dumb azz who tells stupid lies that don’t make sense and I feel confident that I’m right.

  • Ronnie

    Kandi is mad about Phaedra pretending that she was sad about Apollo going to prison and Kandi not being supportive when in fact Phaedra was happy to see Apollo go, and Phaedra was just putting on an act for the public.

    Kandi is also mad about Phaedra pretending that she hadn’t owed Todd money while belittling Todd at the same time.

    I don’t support either of them but Phaedra seemed to have started the deception and passive aggression so the Kandi Coated clique (can’t stand Donna Juanita) dragging her is fair game.

    • Marsbars09

      I agree with your assessment with the exception that Kandi should not encourage her mother or her employees to trash Fake. Their problems are their own, no one else’s.

      • Ronnie

        I guess you are right Mars.

      • Trippinhhard

        Thank you Mars, the both if them use to whore around together.. I get Kandis side, but I don’t get Todd, he never asked Apollo to pay that bill, when they were in the strip club, supporting strippers.. He went after Fhedra, now I don’t like either one and never have., Joyceless needs to stay her ass out of otter people business..
        Kandi don’t want no one coming for Joyceless, but Nene told her ass off. I quote her words ” I said what I say and I’m not changing it”.ll Kandi us mini Joyceless and she too personal with her employees.. Todd’s one assistant, worked circles around DonJuan and Carmen.. He was very sharp and knew what was needed before the old bitty gang asked for it.. She should go back to what she does best, her music.. Her storyline using Riley absentee father is disgusting, to me because she doesn’t need the money and she could have shut that shit down with test woman entering her place of business.. In sure Riley will be picked on at school about that BS.. Kandi has a new marriage, a new cute little boy, opening a lunch spot to eat, her music and other things going for her.. She didn’t have to use something that happened 14 year ago…..

        • WeCouldBeHeroes

          Why does Todd need to ask Apollo.
          Them hanging out doesnt change the fact that Phaedra stilled owed money.
          Why didnt Phaedra just pay the money when it was OWED. Why didnt she tell her con man husband to stop spending paying on strippers and pay some debts

          • Trippinhhard

            Apollo was a part of the business and he was the one helping Fhedra to get back in shape.. She had no control over Apollo, he did what he wanted.. I’m stick to my post, they never asked Apollo for a dime and the videos were all his ideal, because his body is tight..

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            Plz.
            Plus – you dont know that unless you read the contract and were privy to all their business conversations, which you weren’t.

          • Trippinhhard

            And neither were you, so go on and keep your opinions and I will keep mine..Apollo was the one who started the fitness videos..

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            Hahahaha. Oh sweet child.
            Apollo was not the one who started the videos.
            And if he did, it doesn’t matter. It was Phaedra’s debt. She is the debtor. She is not the victim. End of story.

          • Trippinhhard

            Sha I never once said she’s a victim, but because they were married, she’s responsible.. It still doesn’t change the fact that Todd had a year and he never asked Apollo for a dime.. Now that’s the end on my story..

          • Sunflower

            End of story?
            Who says so…
            The Phaedra story has just started…like a 48-Hour Crime Scene.
            Stay tuned…!!!
            Hahahahahahahaha!!

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            xx

          • Sunflower

            Phaedra told Todd specifically that the Video Deal was between her and Todd and Apollo was not included.

            Todd and Kandi need not to be so gullible to trust friends without presenting them with a valid written contract or agreement.

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            POW!

          • GetReal2014

            That’s exactly what happened. Then Phaedra lied…

            as usual.

          • GetReal2014

            Phaedra contracted with Todd to do the pregnancy video. Apollo had nothing to do with the second video. I don’t understand why he would be paying Phaedra’s debts. That’s a head scratcher.

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            They trying it

          • GetReal2014

            Unsuccessfully, because I’m not hearing anything about Phaedra that pretends that she’s right, fair or upstanding. Anything good about her is wasted on me. Can’t stand that cow.

        • Marsbars09

          As always you are spot on! The only reason I can see Kandi reaching into the gutter is because she wants to be the HBIC of the show, but all she’s doing is showing how cold, cruel and heartless she is.
          Kandi needs to focus on the life God blessed her with and stop dealing with nonsense.

          • Trippinhhard

            Thank you

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            You just said a mouthful right there.
            It is not about supporting Phaedra. It’s about Kandi is wrong. She is being hateful, vindictive & trifling like her mother.
            With all of the wonderful things she supposedly has going on, why is she so damned obsessed with Phaedra?!?
            We still haven’t gotten to the part where Peter & Tiny Todd film with Apollo’s fiancée in their new restaurant. Who does that?!? Why put Phaedra on blast for Mr Chocolate, knowing all the while that Apollo had someone else on the side?!?

      • WeCouldBeHeroes

        She can do whatever she wants.
        I would want Mama Joyce and clan on my team. They got her back.
        if they wanna get involved and support their daughter/boss/friend good on them. They’re allowed to.
        As if your friends and family wouldn’t have your back if you were in a situation,

        • Sunflower

          Phaedra has been fully EXPOSED..!!
          Everyone is trying to find a Top of the Line Sewing Machine to stitch Phaedra’s loose buttons, however the Needle keeps breaking.
          Kandi got her anchored permanently on her Soap Box..!!

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            I’m screaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            You are so right
            All these Phaedra fans are out on the blogs trying to stitch up her ass.
            First of all – I don’t get it. Why would you like her? Must be dirty like her
            Second – they trying it with this “Phaedra never did anything to Kandi”, “She never hurt Kandi”, “How does her life affect Kandi”, “Kandi got a messy crew”
            They trying every excuse but nothing can patch that mess up

          • Sunflower

            Nothing they say – fans -can justify Phaedra’s consistent manipulation of her own family, her friends and foes.
            She went as far as to get the “Nation of Islam” involved.. in her shenanigans!
            How sick is that…!!

          • Marsbars09

            Hey SF! I read on another website that the people who like Fake like her because they think “she can dress” and she comes across as sophisticated.
            I swear, there are some really misguided souls amongst the masses.

          • Sunflower

            Those are the jobless day dreamers …
            I call them her Runaway fans!

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            She’s a total sicko with her faux bomb scare.

          • Dani-K

            I really believe it was a strategic move on her part to someday run for office. Lord help the people of Atlanta.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            That’s also why she is so far up that congresswoman’s ass…she is clearly using her as a come up!

          • Marsbars09

            And the top comment of this thread goes to (drumroll)…. Sunflower!
            Excellent post SF!

        • Marsbars09

          I think it’s best if we agree to disagree on this one.

        • GetReal2014

          I’m with you. Your friends, family and support system are always going to have your back. Phaedra’s mother aids and bets Phaedra when she was dogging out Apollo. What’s the difference?

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            I never thought of that but you are so right. These stans try to make you think like there is something wrong with what Kandi’s fam and friends are doing. Phaedra’s mom been on screen for many seasons talking bad about Apollo. I remember one time they were talking about him being physically violent and that she should move out blah blah.

          • GetReal2014

            Absolutely, Kandi employs, supports, and is close to her family and employees. It would be crazier if they didn’t have her back. Why would they bite the hand that feeds them for Phaedra who has gone on a media blitz calling someone a whore over texts that never existed? And many other actions that prove her lack of moral fiber and character.

            Kandi’s never done anything like that to anyone. She’s never sought to destroy others, so anyone who wants to think that Phaedra is so high and mighty can do so, but no one is convincing me that Phaedra is anything other than the lowdown, criminal mind, sociopath that we’ve seen on TV.

            WTH have we seen Phaedra do for anybody? As in ever?

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            Nothing. She is a fraud.

          • GetReal2014

            I’ve never seen her do anything but use others. I have no respect for that clown.

    • WeCouldBeHeroes

      Plus she tried to throw Kandi under the bus saying that she was a bad friend and that Nene was better. She ran to the arms of “you cant win when you’re dirty” Nene – Her enemy! Now they supposedly BFFs.
      The only reason Nene bothered with Fakedra is that she needed a soldier after Cynthia bowed out

      • Ronnie

        Totally agree.

      • GetReal2014

        That’s exactly what happened, and when Nene left that friendship dissolved. It was all fake for the camera.

        • WeCouldBeHeroes

          Nene and Fakedra’s friendship was one of convenience

          • GetReal2014

            And as soon as the season wrapped, so did their fake relationship.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Happens every season! Lol

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            Nene now besties with Kenya & Cynthia

          • GetReal2014

            Like clockwork! Whenever Nene’s fortunes change she re-ignites her friendships, it doesn’t matter with who, as long as she benefits in some way. Total user.

          • WeCouldBeHeroes

            She loves to play victim but she no innocent. She did the same with Kim K.

          • GetReal2014

            And Tamar, and Cynthia, and Kenya, and Marlo, and Kim Z., and anyone else that has crossed her path.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            I think they all have ulterior motives and they align themselves with whoever they can benefit from at that moment. The way their friendships change from season to season proves this. I think they are all greedy and the only one they truly care about is theirself!

    • Trippinhhard

      Hey Ronnie I agree with most of your post.. Kandi and Todd was storing Apollo things in their garage and never let Fhedra know.. Kandi was also telling her that she should be bringing her boys to see their father in jail.. She took plenty of swipes regarding Fhedra and Nene being close, and Nene lending her support..I never liked either one of them, but the both been taking swipes at each other.. Apollo said it best after that fight at Game Night, that Fhedra likes to put on a united front in front of others.. I can’t say that Fhedra wasn’t hurt over her divorce with Apollo or not..
      We all know she’s a liar and not a good one to be an attorney.. Also Joyceless needs to stay in the old bitty land.. We know Kandi don’t want no one to say anything about her mother, so her mother should stay out of other people business..

      • Ronnie

        I got the impression Kandi did not know that Phaedra was in the dark about the stuff stored in her garage. Also, I think Kandi probably knows Phaedra was neck deep in Apollo’s activities and does not approve of how Phaedra is playing victim publicly. I think Kandi is allowing Joyce to be her mouthpiece.

        • Trippinhhard

          Joyce is out of her league, she should stay with the old gang, because she don’t want anyone telling her nothing.. So let Kandi and Fhedra fight their own battles

          • Ronnie

            If Phaedra gets to the point where she stops holding back and choose to unleash on Joyce, Joyce will have to limp off whimpering in a corner. She can’t match Phaedra’s tongue and quick retorts.

          • Trippinhhard

            Fhedra is not going to disrespect Joyceless.. Fhedra’s mother has been on the show, but she don’t get involved in others personal business…

          • Ronnie

            Even once Joyce needs to be put in her place.

          • Trippinhhard

            IKR she’s going to piss off the wrong person one day.. I think there’s anything loveable at all about Joyceless, she’s a miserable…

          • Ronnie

            The annoying thing is, she thinks she is interesting, attractive and a big star.

          • Trippinhhard

            IKR

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          I can understand your point of view but how can Kandi be angry at Phaedra for getting away with the crimes but support the actual criminal?!?
          So Apollo gets support but Phaedra should be exposed?!? The one that got caught somehow becomes the victim?!? If Kandi has a problem with Phaedra, she damn sure should have a problem with the actual convicted felon.

          • Ronnie

            I don’t think Kandi is angry that Phaedra got away with being a part of the crime. I think she is upset at Phaedra for publicly pretending that she was distraught over being a single mother whose husband put her in an embarrassing position and her Bestie, Kandi, abandoned her when the truth was, Phaedra was happy to get rid of Apollo and was long into a relationship and even contemplating remarriage.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Well IMO I saw Phaedra trying to play the stoic role. She isn’t going to publicly celebrate being rid of that assclown of a husband, but when she let Kandi know privately that she can not wait to be rid of him, Kandi should have understood that.
            Phaedra told Nene that she was her rock & she would have thought it would have been Kandi. How is that bad mouthing Kandi?!? And why is Kandi holding such a grudge that her whole crew is constantly trying to dog Phaedra out?!?

          • Ronnie

            I think there is a lot more than what we see on the show. Anyway, my comments are based on what I see on the show, read elsewhere and opinions I have formed. I am not necessarily right (or wrong). Have great night. Are you on the west coast? You should be asleep ☺.

          • Marsbars09

            There is a lot more going on than we know. We are all entitled to our opinions. I feel as long as we have healthy, respectful correspondence it’s all good. :). Shoot, I go back and forth myself when it comes to Kandi and Fake! 😀

          • Ronnie

            I agree. I don’t necessarily support Kandi though.. I just try to see each situation for what it is. ☺

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            I don’t think you are wrong. All we have to go by is what we see on the show & we all know that the show is heavily edited.
            We all have our opinions & I totally respect yours. Happy Holidays.

          • Ronnie

            You too Bette!

          • GetReal2014

            I think it was the hypocrisy as well, not to mention Apollo unburdening to them about Phaedra’s deeds. Kandi knew that Apollo was speaking the truth because Mr. Chocolate had gone on vacation with her, Todd and Phaedra.

            These are the situations that opened Kandi’s eyes to who Phaedra really was, but she still tried to keep Phaedra’s secrets. Unfortunately, Phaedra kept digging at Kandi until ultimately Kandi hit back.

          • Ronnie

            Also, I think that Todd supported Apollo and maybe Kandi feels that Phaedra and Apollo were in on it together, and since Apollo decided to not expose Phaedra, Phaedra should allow Apollo to see the kids.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Phaedra never said she wouldn’t let him see the boys. She was saying when she(their mother) felt the time was right.
            Kandi tried to force her opinion down Phaedra’s throat & that is again not her place.
            As a friend, I will give you my opinion & then it’s up to you to take it or leave it. Kandi, Todd nor Peter give a damn about those boys but they sure are supporting their felonious father.

          • Ronnie

            I just think there is a lot more to the story than is shown to us. The St. Julien woman who is doing time along with Apollo, said both their spouses aeere involved but they all agreed that only one of each set of parents would take the fall so the other could stay with the kids. As for the first time Apollo went to jail, Angela Stanton’s book about it is very credible. I believe Phaedra is very shady.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            That woman got busted & agreed to wear a wire to catch Apollo. Apollo’s dumbass then implicated himself on those wires. There were other people he implicated but Phaedra’s name was never brought up.
            Apollo snitched on a lot of people to get a lighter sentence. Even if he didn’t rat his wife out, why didn’t Stanton or that other woman?!? Neither has anyone else connected to the crimes. Not everyone is going to say okay we will leave her out of it because she has children.
            There is no honor amongst theives. If you can get out of prison or get a lighter sentence they will sing like a canary. IJS

          • RonnieRIB

            Kandi is mainly mad at Fakedra bc she was talking chit about Kandi with NENE…her arch enemy…they she kept throwing shade at Kandi being Todd’s sugamamma…when she was the bish that hooked them up…

          • Ronnie

            True Ronnie.

          • GetReal2014

            There it is! I don’t know why people are dismissing that. Those are blatant betrayals.

          • Bobbi

            I think that is exactly it, Ronnie. Kandi already knew about Mr. Chocolate and Apollo gave Todd and Kandi the rest of the juice on Phaedra so, Kandi knew Phaedra was complicit in Apollo’s crimes as well as had cheated on him. Also, Apollo had come crying to these two about Mr Chocolate and being denied his kids and they felt sorry for him. I agree that she felt Phaedra was being unfair and a hypocrite. I’m sure Apollo told Todd a lot more than even that. Kandi has defended and backed Phaedra in all of her battles and I bet she found out through Apollo that Phaedra has lied to her about a lot, as well as put him up to tell that lie about Kenya propositioning him.

            I don’t think their friendship was broken over that bs Apollo put in Kandi’s garage. It was about her “betrayal” over all. Remember too, as all of this was happening, Kandi was getting close to Porsha and through Porsha ultimately forged an even tighter friendship with Shamea so Phaedra was feeling rejected by Kandi all around. I feel Phaedra’s initial alliance with Porsha was a ploy to get back at Kandi. Porsha went for it because Shamea was taking her place. It’s all coming to a head now.

          • Ronnie

            Yes! I agree with everything you said!

          • GetReal2014

            Outstanding post!

          • Bobbi

            Thanks GetReal. Noones buying that bullchit garage storage lie except for Phaedra’s fans who are grabbing at straws to cut her some slack. Same goes for anyone talking about girl code and “what did Phaedra do to Kandiiiiii?” Hahahaha. GTHOH!

          • GetReal2014

            Stretching like Stretch Armstrong, pulling their own joints out of whack. That garage story is as stupid as it gets.

          • The Champ

            What makes it so bad is that all of her lies are ridiculous and not well thought out. How can anyone try to explain her lies away?

          • Bobbi

            That’s why I think most of these folks know she is guilty on ALL counts. They just can’t handle the truth. They haven’t even gotten over Nene yet. 😂😂

          • The Champ

            She plays a helluva jedi mind trick on her fans 😁😁 They take her word as gospel. I don’t trust jabba the hutt either 💩

          • Bobbi

            Too bad she can’t find a way to market that ish. That’s how you know she’s slow. She should have found a way to bottle that by now.

          • The Champ

            Right! 😁😁

          • The Champ

            The funny thing about it all is, we have been saying this all along.Good to know my instincts are still on point.

          • Bobbi

            Yes. We’ve called it so many times these episodes look like reruns don’t they?

          • The Champ

            Girl, sometimes I get tired of repeating this mess.

          • Bobbi

            I feel you. Some days I’m over it and have no energy to dissect it once more and other days I get my second wind. As you stated earlier though, it is good to see your instincts are on point.

          • The Champ

            Girl yes 🙌 I was having some issues on disquis Sunday. I didn’t get to really enjoy the festivities. Looks like you guys were holding things down 😀

          • Bobbi

            The same thing happened to me the previous weekv. I’ve actually been having trouble lately for the last two weeks. Maybe a lot of new users or something.

          • The Champ

            I got tired of it and went to bed 😴

        • RonnieRIB

          Boom on all points….Kandi knew shadyPhae was living foul…

          • Ronnie

            Yep!

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Even if Kandi knew Phaedra was living foul, why does it bother her if Apollo was living even more foul?!? I don’t get the logic of Kandi being angry at Phaedra for proclaiming her innocence in the public eye.

        • GetReal2014

          Cynthia said that situation wasn’t unique. She said Apollo had something in their garage too and this was common practice amongst the group. Phaedra just used that as an excuse to try to turn viewers against Kandi.

          There isn’t a wife anywhere who would walk into a garage and see missing cars and not ask where the cars were. That’s one of the dumbest lies Phaedra’s ever told.

          So the cars are missing and you just shrug. You don’t ask your husband? You just assume the car fairy took them away? Phaedra is dumb, but she isn’t that dumb. Anyone with an IQ would’ve wanted to know where the cars were. That is such a BS story.

          • Ronnie

            Exactly! Pretty much like how she wants us to believe dumb Apollo set up those dummy corporations or was bringing all that dough home with his felony past. Remember when they ask her what Apollo does, she would say asset recovery? Could he have been doing that legitimately with his recent felony? The thing with people like Phaedra is, they think they are smarter than everyone else.

          • GetReal2014

            That’s it! She underestimates everyone else’s intelligence. The chit she makes up doesn’t even make sense. You can’t work in asset recovery and you’re a newly released con.

            But her fans don’t hold her feet to the fire or question anything that she says, they simply accept it.

            Nothing that Phaedra says makes any sense. If Phaedra said it, I consider it a lie. Period.

          • Ronnie

            True! Is Phaedra says it, it’s a lie.

          • The Champ

            Let’s play a game! Name one thing Phaedra hasn’t lied about? The winner gets nothing bcuz it’s all bull 💩. 😏

          • GetReal2014

            I’m turning in my paper with just my name on it. This test is too hard.

          • The Champ

            There are no winners 😁😁😁

          • GetReal2014

            Good. Because I hate to give up, but I wouldn’t be able to find a second on the show where Phaedra was truthful.

          • The Champ

            Exactly my point 😂😂😂

          • The Champ

            Same ole sh*t! I’m tired of her, it’s too much 😔

      • Marsbars09

        I couldn’t agree with you more. Joyless is nothing but a bitter old bird.

      • RonnieRIB

        Yup that’s why Fakedra started being mad at Kandi at first…but she should have realized just like she supported her huzzzzzband Kandi was going to support Todd.

        • Trippinhhard

          That’s the truth, you have to support the one you sleeping with, even when you don’t agree.. Hell I have a book to write on supporting his husband, when his ass was dead wrong.. LMFAO
          Good Morning..

      • Why is this happening to us?

        I don’t know about you, but if a felon who was on his way to prison asked me to store his property in my garage, I would suggest he get a storage unit! Lmao. I wouldn’t want that stuff in my house!

        • Trippinhhard

          Thank you, it really doesn’t make sense.. I agree with you, I’m not letting a crook put crap in my garage.. I don’t want the Feds at my house at all..

          • Why is this happening to us?

            No way! Lol

          • Trippinhhard

            Hey Why help me pray that I find a date for the Christmas Saturday???
            I saw an old friend I hadn’t seen in 35 years yesterday, coming out the doctors office.. Girl he looks so good, My heart skipped a beat, but of course he didn’t know and he asked was I going.. I said of course I’m going, I need the money for my charity…he said I know you’re divorced, your brother told me, we been working on a few cases together, but he wouldn’t give me your number…I took his number, but I let him know you can’t come in our home, because it’s the home my ex built for me.. So I’m meeting him for for lunch today.. I don’t know what to do??? I haven’t been on a day in 33 years, I’m old fashion and a little slow… Give me your opinion..Thanks
            He already know my twins, his wife died of cancer and he saw her he knew she was my daughter, because she looks just like me, except her hair is sandy blonde…My son installed the computers systems in his office and maintain them, he looks like me and my father.. He’s so handsome, he just taller than my daddy, my daddy was only 5’7.. My sexy as ex husband is 6’5 and he want to take me also, because he don’t want to pay and join the Country Club.. He can only come with me.. The bylaws was a book and they still stand, although this is a newer one, but they kept the same rule.. My family and all the founding families get 200 years of no due and free entry.. It was 12 men that took their money and trade and built the first one here, because we use to have to drive 45 minutes to go to another country club.. I know I write a book to tell a story, but it’s the way I express myself in real life..

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Aww….I’m so happy for you!! That sounds wonderful and like it was meant to be! 😄
            I think you should just go to lunch today and be yourself. It sounds like you have lots to talk about, especially since he knows your family so well. I know you must be nervous, but you will be fine! Just think of it as going to lunch with a friend. I would also not talk too much about the ex, as that can be awkward, especially on a first date.
            Is he definitely going to the event this weekend? See how it goes today and maybe you guys can go together. Does your ex husband think he is already going with you? That might be awkward to have both of them there together.
            Take it one day at a time. Just go to lunch today and see how it goes. If you think you would like to see him again, maybe you can ask him toward the end of your date if he would like to accompany you this weekend.
            I will say a prayer that everything goes well! Just remember to enjoy yourself. Don’t over think it!
            Let me know how your date goes! This is exciting! 😸

          • Trippinhhard

            I already told my ex no, but he thinks I will change my mind, I told him I rather go alone, because I’m going to dance my ass off and enjoy myself.. He coming over later, after he gets off from work.. Today is my birthday, but I’m not changing my mine, about him taking me.. I am a little nervous about lunch today, I already can’t decide what to wear.. It’s at 1:00 today, he’s in court this morning.. So I’m just going to relax and take it for what it is a lunch date.. He’s not a stranger to my family, my parents sold his parents a house, when we were kids. He also took me to my homecoming dance, I was on the homecoming court and didn’t have a date.. He was nice enough to take me, but when I walked in that dance with our Black running back, you could hear a pin drop on cushion.. We had a ball and never went out again, because his family were starting to get threats and treated badly, but he still came over to our house, with his sister, to swim and play tennis… Awww

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Happy Birthday!!! 🎂🎈🎊🎉🎁
            What a nice birthday present…a lunch date!
            Hope you guys have a great time! It sounds like you have a lot of history together, so I’m sure he will be easy to talk to. Depending on how this lunch date goes, you might have to tell your ex you already have a date to the country club this weekend 😉 Lol
            Just enjoy it! The best partners are the ones that you are friends with. Work on the friendship and if it’s meant to be, everything else will fall into place. 😊
            Have a great time! Can’t wait to hear all about it when you get back! Enjoy & Happy Birthday again! 😘

          • Trippinhhard

            My ex know I’m not going with him period.. now you right about telling him, if I ask him to take me, but that’s all he’s owed.. He’s my ex and I do love him and always will, but I’m not in love with him, that’s why I divorced him..
            Just have to put my pant and shirt on.. My face been made up since 10:00 this morning.. Talk at you later.. thank you for the good advice, it’s been soooo long since I had a date.. LMAO

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Just remember to have fun!!
            Talk to you later! 😘

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Hi Trip!
            I hope you enjoyed the holidays and that your dates went well! How was the dance Saturday? Hope you guys had a great time together!

          • Trippinhhard

            My lunch date was going along very well, just catching up on the decades, since we saw each other.. Until my ex showed at the same hotel, to eat lunch with a customer.
            Girl he was sooo mad and angry, he think I’ve been seeing him, without telling him..
            But he knew him because they use to come by our family home swimming when he and I was dating.. He told my ex, I just saw her yesterday coming out of the doctors office.. I asked her to lunch, and besides you’re divorced.. I wish I had someone who still speaks glowing of me, as your ex has about you.. Anywho he went got my birthday gift and a letter he had for me.. Oh he was just angry, but I told him the truth and we’re divorced.. I don’t owe you anything.. He just knows I haven’t been out with anyone since our divorce and to go on my birthday, just rubbed him the wrong way..
            I still haven’t open the gift, because I don’t want anything expensive from him.. The letter was, He’s finally agreed on our financial settlement 1 1/2 yrs later and just a sweet note About our lives.. Yes I did ask him would he like to be my date for Saturday and he accepted.. my ex know I didn’t bring his ass last year and I had already told him NO.. I had plan on going alone, but I’m going to walk in with a tall drink of water on my arms.. lol

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Omg! Yikes!! 😲
            Well, your ex has to understand that you aren’t married and you are free to date whoever you want, as is he. It’s not like you knew he was going to be there…but what are the chances?? Lol
            Sounds like your date went well. I’m glad you have a date for this weekend! I’m also glad your date knows your backstory. Makes things much easier to explain!
            Sounds like things are going well. Maybe this will be the start of something new? If not, its nice to reconnect with an old friend. 😊
            Let me know how it goes Saturday. Can’t wait to hear all about your date. Hope your ex don’t show up again! Lol. You’ll be like Cinderella at the ball! 💃🏻👠
            It’s good practice to get out there and date! If your ex didn’t scare him off, I have a feeling he is going to stick around for a while! 🙂

          • Trippinhhard

            I felt alive and Mike Anderson, the Country Club or Sno’s is where most go to lunch or a business lunch.. It was just a shock to see me there with a man, it was my birthday and girl he is fine and tall, an attorney, has his own money.. My ex has been on several dates and I didn’t care, my niece called me one night crying, I thought something had happen to her family.. She told me Uncle was out with a woman, they left the restructuring, because she was so shocked.. I told her I thought you knew we are divorced.. I didn’t ask her what she look like, what color, size or anything.. It’s not my business… We’re going to dinner Friday nite and the ball on Saturday… I think I might me living again.. It did feel strange to he out with someone else.. My ex couldn’t take dare of his business for watching us.. Randall said, I think he still loves you, because it been almost 2 years and he’s that territorial of you.. I still love my ex, but I’m not in love and I’m not going to look back, I looking forward to whatever my future holds..

          • Why is this happening to us?

            You deserve to be happy after all these years and I’m very happy for you! 😊 Sounds like you had a great birthday!
            What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander…lol…your ex can’t expect to date whomever he wants, and have you staying single. I guess it really hit him in that moment that you have other men who are interested! lol.
            So you have 2 dates lined up? Lol. Sounds like you are heading in the right direction! Just take it one day at a time. It’s nice that you are old friends reconnecting. Did you feel butterflies? Lol. You go girl!

          • Trippinhhard

            He already knows I could have been dating, but I never saw another man, that I found myself attractive to.. First thing with me is the mind have to be stimulated, if he can’t stimulate the mind, then when aren’t a match.. I never even thought about dating as of yet.. But girl yesterday I felt like a grown ass woman, having a lunch date, with someone I knew from childhood, and getting to know each other again is interesting.. Yes I felt butterflies and fear of the unknown.. It went very well and he could understand my ex position and it didn’t bother him at all.. My daughter is soooo happy to hear me sound happy and she can’t wait to meet him again.. She don’t remember him, when his wife had cancer.. She is happy, if I’m happy.. I’m going to float in that ball Saturday night and he loves to dance, so it’s going to be tongues wagging, but I never gave a damn what anyone thinks of me.. awwwwww

  • Sunflower

    RHOA PRODUCTION is also tired of Phaedra.
    They have been filming with Phaedra for a long time and are privy of her shenanigans.
    What people forget is… that every scene is planned, set up and guided so that a storyline can be formed… and stitched for a one-hour show.
    This season was put into place and action, because Production DECIDED that Phaedra’s Time Was Up.
    Stay tuned….

    • GetReal2014

      So true, Sunflower. It looks like production has set Phaedra up. All of scenes are sexual in nature and she’s gossiping about every cast member, including her “friend” Porsha. Porsha is getting limited air time. It looks like Bravo is ready for Frick and Frack to get to stepping.

      It’s about [email protected] time too. Two worthless pieces of cow dung stinking up the place. Tired of them starting lies about everyone.

      • Sunflower

        Heard Porsha is having a meltdown soon running up and down the street dodging traffic..!

        Can you imagine… Kandi told her “To go play in Traffic”… and guess what…..

        Dummy Porsha did exactly so!
        LMAOOO……

        • Marsbars09

          Really?

          • Sunflower

            Previews…!!

          • GetReal2014

            That’s right. That’s not on the next show, is it? This is getting good.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Hey there, Mars. You see when Porsha drags a bish she’s crazy but when she walks away, she’s a punk.
            You can’t win for losing if your name is Phaedra or Porsha.

        • GetReal2014

          Ha ha ha ha, Ah ha ha ha.

          You are too funny!

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Lmao! Maybe she was looking for the hatch to the Underground Railroad train station.

      • Marsbars09

        I don’t think Fake likes Porsha. She has always shaded her in some way. She’s just using her for someone to hang out with on the show.

        • GetReal2014

          I’m not a fan of Porsha’s, but I don’t like Phaedra using her. That’s just foul.

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Hi Mars!
          You might be right. Phaedra always has ulterior motives and she probably likes hanging with Porsha because Porsha is on Ricky Smiley’s show. I wouldn’t put it past her to use her for that connection.

      • The Champ

        It’s been a long time coming. No way her trifling azz can get away with lying about everything and everybody.

        • GetReal2014

          Agreed.

    • RonnieRIB

      Yup…which is why the lying bish id getting hers…..

  • RRRobin

    I’m tired of trashy Kandi & her motha. Make them go away.

    • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

      … and please take the entire cast with them.

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    Kenya’s cringing every time her dad called her “man” was palpable. The final piece to the puzzle (of her totally fcked up dysfunctional family life).

    • The Champ

      Well [email protected] 🐮

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        Well it’s the troof!

        • The Champ

          Troof hurts 🐴

  • Sunflower

    Phaekedra’s Time.Is.Up…!!@%&%&@

  • BetteDavisEyez1

    If anyone is getting the bad edit this season, it’s Kandi. Production has even gone as far as to give her mammy her own TH. Showing that old hag in all her miserable glory.
    I can just hear Kandi & her billy goat sounding cry voice trying to defend her & her lackey’s behavior at the reunion.

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Bette! I think this is what Kandi wanted all along-to be the HBIC of RHOA. The problem with being the HBIC is that you have to constantly fight to maintain your position, risk people going against you, get back up again and start all over again. It’s a competitive blood battle.
      At this point in the RHOA series I don’t think any of the women care to align themselves with Kandi or she doesn’t care to align with them. I truly feel Kandi is more at ease and trusting with her employees and family. She knows they will always be loyal to her and will fight her battles, hence why she encourages them to go after Fake.
      And I don’t know why Kandi cries when somebody goes after her mama when she is the one who gave her a platform to spew her venom.

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Excellent point. I always felt that her biggest issue with Nene was that Nene held that title.
        Kandi thought she would come on the show & take over, but she has never had the personality. She is also a sneaky, shyt stirrer but she wasn’t going to pull one over on Nene.
        Now, Kandi has that center peach & she is letting it all hangout. Plus finally being married also has her acting insufferable.

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Kandi should just go off the show and focus on her family. She doesn’t need this BS drama.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Oh she needs it. She lives for it. It is her mammy’s & crew’s lifeblood. LMAO!!

          • Why is this happening to us?

            That it is! I meant financially, she is fine, so she should just go and live her life off the show. I guess what she can’t live without is the attention. Smh.
            It also seems like they are including Momma Joyce more this season…who actually thought that was a good idea? No one can stand that woman! Why include her even more? Ugh.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Whose house is going to be built first. The tired Matt & Dust Mop drama. Kandi with this imaginary beef with Phaedra & soon Porsha. Cynthia’s divorce & more Miserable Joyce.
            This is turning out to be the worst season yet.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            And now Phaedra just bought a new mansion. Lol. What are they going to call that one? Parks Palace?

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Over a million & ready to move in. Porsha also bought a home.
            You don’t see or hear them going on & on about toilets & such. LMAO!!

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Phaedra’s new home was almost $2 million! It is actually a gorgeous home- I saw the pics online yesterday or the day before. I wish I could live in a house like that! Lol. Around here, you’re lucky if you can get a 2 bedroom apartment for that price! I didn’t know Porsha moved again. I thought she rented? Did she finally buy something?
            No, they don’t go on and on about toilets… lol (here’s looking at you, Heather Dubrow! 😉)

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Don’t expect anyone to be happy for Phaedra or Porsha. LMAO!!
            Bragging about a box in a ditch & a toilet. No class.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Lol…I won’t!
            Looks like they are all in competition with these houses…smh. I guess they all think it will give them new storylines!

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            They think it gives them status. Meanwhile the women in NYC’s second homes cost 2-3 times as much & you don’t hear them going on & on. Bethenny’s apt sold for over $6 mill.
            They look stupid arguing over who will move in first. I really liked Phaedra’s home so I’ve got to see the new one.
            That’s a boss. She had a home when she met the felon & now her & her boys are starting over in a new one. Or maybe she is just lying again. LMAO!!

  • Sunflower

    Getting my Popcorn and Vodka ready for the Reunion…!!

    Will start a “GoFundMe” Help Center to buy TISSUES for crying… eye dabbing Phaedra @ the Reunion…!!

    • Marsbars09

      SF you’re still up posting? I’m going to go to bed in a few minutes.
      Fake is so delusional she thinks all viewers are buying what she’s selling. I’m not one of them.

      • Sunflower

        Up packing for my Ski-Trip in Norway.
        High Mountains… Blue Skies – No Internet.
        Will not be posting for a while..!
        Excited….

        • Bobbi

          Have a wonderful vaca/holiday!

        • Marsbars09

          Lucky you! I wish I was going somewhere exciting for Christmas.
          I hope you have a great time!

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Oooh….sounds beautiful!! Have a marvelous time and Happy Holidays!! ☃️🎄⛷🎿

        • GetReal2014

          Sounds awesome!

        • The Champ

          Enjoy Sunflower 🌻

    • RonnieRIB

      And I will chip in for her “prayer cloth” LOLOLOL #BishIsGoingDown #CatchThat DIrt

      • Dani-K

        Prayer cloth! You so funny!

    • Bobbi

      Lol. That reunion is going to be lit fo sho. LOL Hopefully MJ will be on one of those couches for a few minutes. She will say what Kandi won’t. lol. Who knows. She might have some extra tea. Hahaha.

      • GetReal2014

        You know Phaedra’s going to pour the BS on. Let’s see, we’re going to hear about her being a single mother, the trauma of going through a divorce, how Apollo had become violent, how Mr. Chocolate never existed and it was Whyte Chocolate that she was interacting with, and on and on and one.

        I’m not here for her lies, because lies are all that she’s capable of.

        • Bobbi

          Yeah. She tried to pull that victim card in Kandi and she slapped that bs right down. If you handle your business you should be just fine. Phaedra can go somewhere with that. We sure haven’t seen her miss any parties. Fake @ss.

          Porsha and Phaedra were on DN this week. Their shade was reaaaal weak. Lol. But Phaedra put Ace in the middle of it andcwe kniw that’s a no fly zone for Kandi.

          • The Champ

            Girl, everytime the bull💩 hits the fan with these two, they go on DN and go in on their castmates. More lies. I can’t wait til Porkchop’s nasty azz and that ridiculous show is off the air. It has no substance whatsoever.

          • GetReal2014

            Right, those two don’t deserve a platform when all they do is lie.

          • The Champ

            That show should be called, gossip for dummies.

          • GetReal2014

            🙂

          • Bobbi

            Ok? I laugh when I hear someone say they don’t talk about Kandi and Kenya. It’s allchey do on and off the show!
            You’re right about DN. I think the Miami franchise just got cancelled. Atl won’t be far behind.

          • The Champ

            Giiiirl, I watched the show one time out of curiosity. It was some bull💩, my brain is too advanced for that 😀😀

          • Bobbi

            Hahaha. I know what you mean and i’ve only seen clips which is about as long as she’s on the air. 😂😂

          • The Champ

            15 seconds of fame. Hood rat chronicles 🧀🐀

          • GetReal2014

            That’s crazy isn’t it? That’s all they do is talk about Kandi and Kenya everywhere they go.

            I watched a few DN clips looking for their appearance. I didn’t find it but I did see Porsha in action.

            All I can say is dull and stupid, and so is Da’ Bratt. She’s boring as hail. That show needs to be cancelled, or get new talent.

          • Bobbi

            The end can’t be far away. It’s downtrending for sure. When they start shutting down franchises it is not a good sign. Folks on IG were disappointed saying, that franchise and Atl were the best. Well imo, that says it all. 1 down…..

          • GetReal2014

            It’s just too much fluff. I felt dumber just watching it. Juvenile humor and all of them were on the same page. It was a waste of my time.

          • Bobbi

            It’s true. You can’t even call it that. It’s trash. There is intelligence in true wit. Wit is quick, creative and original. What you get with that crew is chit talking, followed by a lot of cackling to fill in the dead space. It IS juvenile. Just like Phaedra’s weak shade.

          • GetReal2014

            Yep, weak shade and fakery. I saw no humor at all. I couldn’t even finish the clip. Boring as hail.

          • GetReal2014

            It’s sure looking like it. That show was basic. Yuck!

          • GetReal2014

            No that bich didn’t. Say it ain’t so. Funky Pha put Ace in it?

            Big mistake.

          • Bobbi

            She said somebody bs Iike; “Kandi said Ace completed her home but it must not be finished since my name stay in her mouth.” We all know Phaedra is treading in really dangerous waters with that one.

          • GetReal2014

            Wow, you’re right, that is some weak shade. She should’ve kept her mouth shut with that elementary BS. Gosh, she’s so stupid.

            She needs to keep Ace’s name out of her mouth.

        • The Champ

          Damsel in distress and her bed of lies 😐

      • The Champ

        Come through MJ 🛋🙄

        • GetReal2014

          Yessss! Couch time for MJ!

        • Bobbi

          YESSS girl-I’m here for this season. 👡👡 Clogs and all. 😂

          • The Champ

            Don’t forget that Mcgruff the crime dog coat. 😁😁

          • Bobbi

            😂😂Girl MJ know she looked like a straight fool in that getup…. looking like she had just robbed a bank and was trying to flee the state. lol. She made be put down my popcorn down for a second though. Mission accomplished. 😂😂

          • The Champ

            A hot azz mess. Them open toe sandals, who does that?? 😂😂 She was incognegro on they azz. I reminded that part like three times 😎😂😂

          • Bobbi

            😂😂😂. Girl, Audrey Hepburn is still doing flips over that travesty. Producers and cameramen were probably in the floor editing that scene.

          • The Champ

            She better hope Inspector gadget doesn’t get wind of this. 😎🎩👞

          • Bobbi

            That would really be a chit show. Lmao!

          • The Champ

            😁😁😁😁

      • GetReal2014

        Check this out. I’ve never watched the show Married 2 Medicine, and I must say that I was horrified. I couldn’t sleep last night so I watched it On-Demand. In one of the episodes one of the girls gave a party that she called Cocktails and Conversations. I was thinking that the name sounded familiar, but I couldn’t figure out why since I’d never seen the show.

        Then it came to me. Guess who’s new venture/Ponzi scheme is called Cocktails and Conversations? I thought that sounded to sophisticated for the unoriginal one.

        Has she ever had an original thought? So brazen about her theft of intellectual property, LOL. Have you seen her new clip regarding her new business?

        Girl, it sounds shady, and very hastily put together. Asking people from other countries to send their money while they’re still trying to figure out the country codes. Oh, and if you don’t have $100-300 to invest in “YOURSELF,” don’t bother showing up in a TBD private location.

        I’m not lying. This is a true story.

        • Bobbi

          Hahahaha. I knew exactly where this was going as soon as I saw Cocktails and Conversations. Lololololol. That’s why Nenes one woman comedy shows fizzled once she had to come up with her own material. She’s never succeeded on her own sweat and brainpower. She has stolen other people’s ideas since day one.
          I saw that video, still scamming people out of their money. No shame whatsoever. I couldn’t even watch the entire thing….disgusting!

          • GetReal2014

            Did you? Ha ha ha. LOL @ the thought of her being the “queen” of anything with her unoriginal azz. She’s stolen everything from everyone else, and then takes credit for it.

            You’re right, she can’t succeed on her own sweat and brainpower, because all she knows is low grade scheming and hood logic. In all of these years there hasn’t been any meaningful elevation from Nene, the only changes she has made have been physical and trying to become a white woman.

            Anyone hearing that video and then decides to send her money is a [email protected] fool. That chit sounded so shady. One thing you can give her is that she has no pride. Pathetic.

          • Bobbi

            Remember our chat about how Nene had never evolved and how her foray into television was just a more sophisticated version of her street hustle……. and how if she didn’t have her tv career she would still be stealing and scamming? Well, she’s in her way back as we type. She’s desperate now.

          • GetReal2014

            Yes, I remember. Nene is straight street. She has nothing else to offer. Unfortunately, her one trick persona wears off quickly, and that’s what has happened.

            And now she has reverted to type, trying to separate fools from their money. Anyone who puts money in that chick’s hand is a [email protected] fool, because Nene is not trying to help anyone elevate themselves, but she’s A-OK with using someone to elevate herself.

            I wish I would support anything that hustler is doing. Ain’t no way.

          • Bobbi

            It won’t be long before there is a scandal over this bs. Iintegrity and money are strangers in Nenes world. Once she had their money she will leave them high and dry and cut off communication without batting an eye. I saw one idiot posting about how she was proud to be Nenes business partner. Betch you are selling another man’s vitamins. VITAMINS at that! I swear, I can’t.

          • GetReal2014

            SMDH @ proud to be Nene’s business partner. They’d better get to Googling and she how many people she has stiffed. So dumb.

          • Bobbi

            Some chit they could sell by going straight to a company their d*mn selves! She’s spent her life scamming and taking folks hard earned money. I see it coming though. Nene is messy. Messy people stay caught up in drama. Same with that boutique with Bow Wows mom. They’ll be going to blows over that sooner or later too. Mess follows her.

          • GetReal2014

            Exactly, if you want to do direct sales there are legitimate companies out there where you can become an independent seller. Why would you need to give Nene $100-300? Grow a [email protected] brain.

            I don’t see that boutique being a success either. Some way or the other Nene will mess that up too. When has she able to work with someone and be cooperative? Remember her first stint on Broadway and how she was trying to tell seasoned professionals the best way to deliver the lines? The girl is a straight up idiot and nothing good will come to her because of her nasty persona.

          • GetReal2014

            Nene is good for that and she has no pride about it. I would be so humiliated to steal someone’s words, phrase, etc. and boldly act like it emanated from me.

            I think that’s a result of her low IQ. She can’t come up with anything original because she lacks the intellectual capacity to do so.

            We see what Nene’s capable of now that Andy isn’t supporting her. Nothing! A big fat zero. She couldn’t get those jobs on her own because she’s too ignorant to even know how to talk to people, be humble, grateful or appreciative. That’s why the business chewed her up and spit her out so unceremoniously.

            Left to her own devices she’s stealing someone else’s phrases, The So Nasty, So Rude tour courtesy of Kenya, and Cocktails and Conversations by way of the woman on Married 2 Medicine. Other than that, she’s got a boutique with BowWow’s mom, but we don’t know if she’s a partner or the face of the company. What she’s been pushing the most are vitamins, so that lets you know how limited she is.

    • The Champ

      Ride or Lie 😎🏍

  • BetteDavisEyez1

    What kind of world are we living in where we ignore a lying conniving, repeat offender’s crimes & hyper focus on his wife that was never even charged with anything?!? LMAO
    How does a woman justify Kandi calling her ex bff out for cheating when everyone knew the husband was cheating left & right, but she & her husband still support the felon.
    How many of us would really do what Kandi did to Phaedra if we fell out with a friend over nothing?!?
    Friends share secrets & whether we fall out or not, there are secrets that we take to the grave. With friends like Kandi, who needs enemies.

    • Why is this happening to us?

      Hi Bette! I agree. There are just some things you don’t repeat, no matter whether or not you are friends anymore. Looks like another Vicki situation to me!

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Good evening, Why.
        It is exactly like the Vicki situation. Only difference is no one thought that it was funny.
        Just imagine how differently everyone would be reacting if what Kandi did was done to Kenya or Phaedra had done it to Kandi.

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Oh Kandi would cut a bitch! Lmao

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            You got that right. Look at how far she’s going over nothing. So just imagine… LOL!!

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Lmao! She flips the switch real quick!
            Was it Nene who was making fun of her a few years ago? Lol. I think it was after the pajama party. That was funny. It was about coming for her momma and her man or something like that. I have to find a gif of that and post it. Hehe

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            She is her mother’s daughter. Joyce was trying to beat Carmen with her shoe in a bridal boutique. Just trashy.

          • Why is this happening to us?

            Omg…I remember that. Smh.
            Luckily, Riley doesn’t seem to be hot tempered like her mother and grandmother. That kid doesn’t seem to show a reaction to anything… lol. She’s probably too lazy to brawl with someone and that’s a good thing in this case!

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            I’m going to leave that one alone.☕️😈

          • Why is this happening to us?

            😉 😈

    • tsc

      Totally agree! As angry I have gotten with my friends, I have NEVER, as Adele sang, “laid your shit bare”. That act of betrayal is WORSE than the worse secret s/he has shared with you. Kandi is just wrong!

      I do not think Phaedra was lying about the nature of the “bobm” music scare. We do not know what the timing of the events were. It may have taken homeland security several days or even weeks to figure out what happened and during that time, Phaedra and her parent were scared.

      And Apollo & Todd & Kandi & Peter….He committed the same crime TWICE! He threatened his wife, the mother of his two sons. And all of THAT shit was fine in their eyes. Kandi and Todd and Peter must have known that Apollo was hiding his ILLEGAL shit (fruits of the poisonous tree) in their homes. And THAT was okay with all of them too.Seems like they were all okay with Apollo’s thug life.

      Their values are warped and somehow Phaedra is a fake, fraud and phony?!?!?

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Thank you, TSC!! That is exactly what I take issue with. Just because you hate Phaedra, doesn’t make what Kandi did right.
        Phaedra has every right to hire a bodyguard. That does not prove that she is lying about the bomb threat or that she was lying about being nervous in that situation. Who wouldn’t be?!?
        As far as the unconditional support for the twice convicted felon & trying to tear down the mother of his children is the very definition of warped. They care so much about Apollo but not his sons?!? They have a relationship with the now fiancée & they hid Apollo’s toys that the Feds were looking for… but like you said Phaedra is the phony & the fraud. SMDH

  • The Champ

    Maaaaan, ph*ck Phaedra and her butt hole lips. This is the same southern jezebel that has tried to tear all of her castmates down for repeating the truth about her. Truth is the truth, she is the only one responsible for holding onto her own lies. Just like many of the viewers, Kandi is tired of the lies and deceit. Her lies have destroyed ppl’s lives, surely she benefited from the stolen retirement funds. I’m sure Kandi is relieved she no longer has to carry around that extra baggage. Last season we watched Phaedra go after Kandi and Todd. All bcuz she was mad that Todd let the world know about her shady business affairs. She does not like being called on her lies, well guess what? Nobody cares. I have yet to find a girl code friendship handbook that says you can’t call your friend out on their lies. We the viewers have watched her repeatedly, season after season being dishonest. All the others have been subjected to such scrutiny. Where I come from my family rides for me and first and foremost my mom. Momma Joyce ain’t hurting nobody but the one who tried to verbally assassinate her daughter.

    • GetReal2014

      Love that last line. “MJ ain’t hurting nobody but the one who tried to verbally assassinate her daughter.”

      I don’t know why people are skipping over that. For the majority of us, our mothers will be in our corner when someone is deliberately mistreating their child. To think that MJ is going to sit back and watch this lying BS directed at her daughter and not say anything is insanity.

      • The Champ

        MJ didn’t do nothing but repeat the truth and guess what???? Truth hurtzzzz!

        • GetReal2014

          Right, how you gon’ be mad because MJ spoke the truth about a current event? Too stupid.

        • Bobbi

          And we know MJ comes for whoever comes for her daughter or anyone she thinks is mistreating her. People have forgotten she came for Kandi’s last boyfriend and she also came for Carmen. Coming for Carmen was cool though because she was dragging Todd in the process. 🙄

          • The Champ

            That’s their relationship, they stand by each other. Right or wrong. I didn’t like how she treated Ms. Sharon bcuz of how she felt about Todd. His mother didn’t deserve that, it was more about Todd than her. Kandi and MJ have been through a lot together and their bond is unbreakable. You can’t argue with that.

          • Bobbi

            True. Oh, I still haven’t let MJ off the hook for what she did to Sharon. Todd’s mother did nothing to her. That was disgusting. None of us understand their relationship but it’s none of our business. We just watch and report. lol. You can tell Kandi checks her mom though I will say that. She certainly came and got MJ from climbing Phaedra’s stumpky @ss at that tasting. That chit was real.

          • The Champ

            Yes. It’s their relationship. I think Kandi checks her from time to time as well. As far as mother and daughter, that is strictly between them two. Kandi has never had a problem voicing her opinion about her Momma, as she calls her.

          • Bobbi

            I agree. And Kandi has never been able to control her. I think it’s lame to suggest she do so. She is a grown women. Production has gotten to the point they don’t even come to Kandi anymore to bring her on. They have a direct line to straight to MJ.

          • The Champ

            Right. We ain’t the only ones tired of Phakedra. Looks like production is in on it. I say, about time. Her lazy azz sat back season after season showing her azz and throwing shade. What else did she do? While they are worried about who’s boyfriend is real or not, this hyena was masterminding a criminal empire. Her entire life is one BIG lie.

          • Bobbi

            I agree. Phaedra has been no more than the peanut gallery after everyone else’s scenes and mommy dearest at dentist appointments etc for 3 seasons now. I believe they told her her job was on the line coming into this season and don’t bring that bullchit beef with Kenya back for a 4th season either. Bet too, they’ve been wanting to get to that AS story and she hasn’t been allowing and they got fed up. Why else would she agree to keep filming along with Apollo’s side piece? She was desperate for a storyline and a cover for a legit salary. She certainly has not let them bring Angela Stanton on so she’s obviously got some control. Girl. THATS who should have been the surprise guest this season. Angela Stanton. Bravo is slippin’. Lol

          • The Champ

            Oooohweee! That would be classic. I would looove to see Angela make an appearance (note to production). I knew something was up when I seen her play nice with Kenya. So I guess if Kandi knew about Block, Snakedra knew about Apollo’s new jump off. By the way, she naturally pretty from what I’ve seen. I know that burns Phaedra’s biscuits. Remember when Nene’s friends husband said he smashed Kandi and Phaedra? He also said Phaedra was an ugly duckling 🐣 That had to sting 😬

          • Bobbi

            Hahaha. Girl, I almost went under my couch watching that scene. I was embarrassed for her. Then they tried to go in on the man’s package. Too late! 😂 He read her sitting right on his back seat and she couldn’t say a word because she knew it was true. She did that same head nod she does when she can’t deny chit like she just did with Kandi. And Nene set her up. Got her trapped where she had to stay and listen. I’m certainly not confused why Kandi is fed up with her ratchet @ss.

          • The Champ

            Mee too girl. I was sinking down on my seat. I was like [email protected], first she gets exposed by Nene for being the town “head doctor” and now the ugly duckling? Her azz should have walked off the show, without further notice 😂😂 Apollo didn’t even come to her defense, he knows the truth. Can’t turn a thot into a housewife 😞😔😔

          • GetReal2014

            I’m not confused either. LOL @ that nod she gives when she’s trapped and guilty. Where’s her “shade” then? Phaedra didn’t open her mouth. Who would let someone accuse them of that if it wasn’t true?

          • Bobbi

            Agree. The “queen of shade” has no reply? Yeah we know why. Guilty as charged that’s why. Oh, but miraculously the shade shows up in her talking head. Hahahaha. Guilty Liar.

          • GetReal2014

            I remember that. I was thinking so now you’ve got your tongue again. When she was in the car, the cat had it.

          • Bobbi

            Hahahahaha!

          • GetReal2014

            Ha ha ha. Agree with all.

          • The Champ

            😁😁😁😁

          • GetReal2014

            I’m sure her job was on the line because Phaedra wasn’t showing any of her life. She was only shading others like you said.

            She milked the hail out of that Kenya storyline. Apollo kind of messed that up though by admitted he lied, but she tried to restore with the he lied about lying.

            Maybe she had to pick between Sherian and Angela. You’d best believe she’s looking for some dirt on Sherian. She’ll try to destroy her too, but she won’t be able to pull the wounded victim about Sherian cheating with her husband when she was planning on marrying someone else the whole time.

            Kandi busted on Mr. Chocolate just in time.

            That’s a good idea though. I might have to shoot Bravo a letter or start a petition. Bring Angela Stanton on. Phaedra would chit in her undies.

          • Bobbi

            Girl, wouldn’t that be crazy?? The ratings would go through the roof. I never thought of the ultimatum. You might be on to something there. It just doesn’t seem normal that Phaedra would agree to it since she had been so secretive about everything else. She must have been on the ropes.

          • GetReal2014

            Right, Kandi can’t determine when MJ appears on the show. That’s just stupid. I think production puts MJ on when Phaedra is getting out of hand because they know that MJ will address her BS, but in MJ’s defense, she too gave Phaedra plenty of opportunity to stop the BS. Phaedra proceeded at her own peril.

          • Bobbi

            She did warn her. You’re right. And this is a show, but Phaedra came for Kandi for real. Folks act like just because it’s a show MJ is supposed to “act” with decorum when Phaedra is on here playing for keeps. That’s the problem with these hood rats. They don’t know how to throw harmless shade for entertainment like Kenya. They come for people’s lives and livelihood.

          • GetReal2014

            She sure did. She went to Phaedra’s office and tried to stop the madness. Phaedra played dumb and I knew that MJ was going to take the gloves off. As much chit as they know about Phaedra that was a very foolish thing for Phaedra to do.

            Excellent point, Phaedra is trying to do things that have long-lasting effects on her cast members. There’s nothing “light” about her shade, even with Porsha. Those constant references to Porsha being a tramp is being carried along by Phaedra. Now Sheree is carrying the banner too (effing follower). Phaedra tries to destroy people, affect their livelihoods, their children, she doesn’t care.

            I don’t see anything funny about the havoc she wreaks. It’s damaging, and that crap isn’t right. Calling herself a darn Christian. She should be shot.

          • GetReal2014

            Agreed.

            Kandi does check her mom, but there’s only so much you can do when it’s your mother, LOL.

          • Bobbi

            That’s what I said. It’s lame to tell someone they should “control” their mother. MJ is a grown @ss woman AND her momma! What else can she do other than check her?

          • GetReal2014

            That’s ridiculous. There’s no way I would’ve been able to control my mother. I don’t care how old I was. She’d still pop me in my mouth for sassing her, LOL. Moms didn’t play that.

          • Bobbi

            Once you tell them it’s not a good idea what can you do after that? Plus Kandi is used to that women, she’s not clutching her pearls after all these years. This is just more of the same. Folks act like Kandi is supposed to fight the woman or something. Lol

          • GetReal2014

            Ha ha ha, yeah and for some indiscernible reason Kandi is supposed to have Phaedra’s back over her mother’s after all the crap that Phaedra has done to her. What kind of chit is that?

          • Bobbi

            Just like Kenya was supposed to kick Matt out of her housewarming over Porsha. Same busted logic.

          • GetReal2014

            Wait, what?

          • Bobbi

            Yes, Girl these fools were all over social media trying to drag Kenya for letting Matt stay and kicking Porsha out. Twisted if I’ve ever seen it. Slow hustblihe Porsha is.

          • GetReal2014

            That was stupid. Kenya said she asked Porsha to leave because there was a girl that Porsha had previous beef with and she didn’t want any violence to go down.

            What do you expect from dumbazzes who don’t do their research? They accept everything at face value and instead of trying to think rationally, they keep going around spreading misinformation in a combative manner.

          • Bobbi

            But why would you try and rationalize that any way? It goes without saying that a love interest isn’t going to stand in line behind your trolling castmate. Especially one who dragged you by your hair and tried to ruin your reputation. Like I said. Slow.

          • GetReal2014

            That’s true. But those stans can’t figure anything out. They use their busted logic in all of their rationalizations.

            Oops, I did it again, stole your busted logic phrase. LOL, I can’t help myself.

          • Bobbi

            Lol! girl go for it. Hahahaha.

          • GetReal2014

            Yeah, that was foul of MJ. She should’ve learned a valuable lesson from that. There couldn’t be a worse feeling than mistreating someone and for them to die suddenly before you can make amends. I hope MJ has made peace with Todd about her treatment of his mother. If not, she has some karma coming her way.

          • The Champ

            I’m sure that is a big part of her and Todd making amends. She will definitely have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life. Sad but true.

          • GetReal2014

            Yep, stuff like that doesn’t just go away. You have to be careful how you treat people, and there was no reason for MJ to do that. No excuse for her behavior.

          • The Champ

            It sure doesn’t and you never know when or how karma will greet you.

    • tsc

      You wrote, “I have yet to find a girl code friendship handbook that says you can’t call your friend out on their lies.” Here’s the thing, When Phaedra and Kandi were good friends they shared confidences, just like real BFFs do. Confidences that I have shared with my friends are things that I may be ashamed of and would certainly not want to have aired in public. That is what a CONFIDENCE is. I would not share a private shame on camera. When your friend listens to that confidence, there IS a girl-code that you are NOT going to BETRAY that confidence.

      If you think that your friend is lying in the confidence that she is sharing, then, by all means, call her out. But call her out privately.

      Kandi violated that. I have a fiend that I have known for over 10 years and she and I have shared confidences with each other. She did something that I thought was so revolting that we have not spoken in nearly a decade. As mad and hurt as I am with her, I would NEVER betray anything that she has ever told me while we were friends.

      I am one of the bet friends that you can have because I stick to my principles and if I say I will keep your secrets, I keep them.

      • The Champ

        Nope. That’s not what we watch for. Many viewers are sick and tired of Snakedra and her holier than though act. And I can bet, that this episode will have sky high ratings. Phaedra came out last season trying to embarrass Todd and Kandi both. She fake cried to Kandi’s #1 enemy on the show about their friendship. Also, she tried to insinuate that Todd was broke, bcuz she didn’t want to pay him. At the end of the day, she don’t owe Phaedra a thing but hard times and side eyes. All bets were off last season. How do you feel about the upcoming lesbian gate? A storyline to expose Kandi. Did you know that Poorsha anitiated the alleged kiss with Kandi? There’s a lot more tea to be spilled, stay tuned 🙂

        • tsc

          Hmmm, let’s see….. Kandi’s MOTHER has said, on camera, that Todd is using Kandi, that they are working hard to get that restaurant open — or at least Kandi is, that Todd is spending a lot of money (clearly not Todd’s money but Kandi’s money)…..and this is just what she said THIS year. If ANYONE has “damaged” Kandi’s relationship with Todd, it is her own mother.

          But feel free to think that her insane mother is getting all ratchet because she wants to protect her 40 year-old daughter. Her mother just likes to scream and play the fool for a pay check. She is an embarrassment.

          • The Champ

            I never once said Snakedra tried to damage their relationship. What I said was, she tried to embarrass and shame them. One thing you are right about is my freedom of thinking. For whatever reason MJ is on the show is her business. I’m strictly here for entertainment. If Kandi doesn’t have problem with it, why should I?

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Precisely. It is an exaggeration that Phaedra mistreated Kandi. Miserable Joyce is always going too far & Kandi is the one that is a poor example of a friend because if not, see would point out what Phaedra did to her personally.
        Not bring up Mr Chocolate & how Phaedra was counting down the days until she was rid of Apollo. How does that affect Kandi’s life?!? This is just ignorant.

      • Shelly Jones

        What you said applies in the real world. We are talking about women on a reality show. Pha made the demise of their friendship her storyline. She went to everyone but Kandi about the issues. Pha deliberately misled viewers about the business deal with Todd, she lied on camera that she paid Todd 35K (Todd provided receipts). When she and porsha were outside having the conversation before Don Juan walked up, she lied by implying to Porsha that Kandi fell out with her over money. Pha played the victim by crying foul when Todd wanted to be paid for a job that he did. She mocked Todd for asking for the money he was rightfully owed. She continues this season to play the role of poor single mother. Kandi got tired of Pha manipulating the viewers and distorted the truth. For the record, Apollo and Kenya outed Pha about Chocolate. Good Job Kandi.

        • Bobbi

          Actually Apollo and Cynthia outed Phaedra about Mr Chocolate. But agree with all of this otherwise. Great point about the rules being fuzzy when you make the demise of your friendship a storyline and you have also violated every girl code imaginable. Great post.

          • Shelly Jones

            Thx. Happy Holidays!

          • Bobbi

            YW and Happy Holidays to you as well!

        • GetReal2014

          Truth! And all of it is verifiable.

    • Bobbi

      😂😂😂. That was my first name for Phaedra when I first started posting. Glad someone else noticed. The “girl code” bs is a joke since Phaedra broke every one…from partnering with a woman she knew her best friend despised and who talked chit about her constantly. She did the same with Porsha whom she dragged for dead before she became tight friends with Kandi……trying to discredit her “best friends” husband and destroy his business credibility and ability to make money, right on down to involving her friends baby in their f’d up squabbles. Girl code my @ss.

      • The Champ

        What “girl code?” These are two grown azz women. The same ppl that sat around and laughed/mimicked Kenya for being assaulted by a pigeon. Also laughed about her not being able to conceived and said her eggs were scrambled. Now all of a sudden want you to be sensitive about Phaedra’s feelings. Ph*ck her. She is the worst of the worst. Her loyalty is to no one. She is a hypocrite, a liar and a pervert. End of story.

        • Bobbi

          Girl, Kenya is an entire other conversation. This chit Phaedra did to Kandi was against her best friend. Kenya didn’t stand a chanc against that snakee. Phaedra is the worst type of person in the world with no empathy for anyone. She’s only about self preservation. Ph*ck Phaedra is right.

          • The Champ

            I already stated the dirt she threw at Kandi. The list goes on. She has done some devious ish. It was bound to come back to her.

          • GetReal2014

            It sure was. Everything you do comes back to you. Phaedra’s looking real stupid about now.

          • The Champ

            She should have known better, I mean being a devout Christian and all * cough cough* 😧

          • Bobbi

            Totally agree. When you try to drag your friend the regular peeps may aswell call it a day. No one is safe with Phaedra but you can’t keep burning the candle on both ends. The universe will eventually start to deliver you some of your own bs.

          • The Champ

            Yep. She will learn a hard lesson. Treat others how you want to be treated. It’s really that simple.

          • Bobbi

            ITS

          • GetReal2014

            And to do so based on such flimsy and obvious lies is ridiculous. The cars, the jobs, I mean these things about blatant. Phaedra was slowing building a case against Kandi. The demise of that friendship rests solely on Phaedra.

          • Bobbi

            ITA. Twist it any way you want. Kandi did not step over the line. Phaedra pushed her.

          • GetReal2014

            Hail, shoved her. Kandi had no other choice. Phaedra’s lies were affecting her brand, her family life and her relationship.

            Phuck Phaedra.

          • Bobbi

            lol! Girl this cracked me up. But yes. Totally agree.

          • GetReal2014

            I stole that from The Champ. The first time I saw it I LOLed, so I thought I’d share the love.

          • Bobbi

            Right!! So funny. Laughing at “shoved her” too. Lololololol.

          • GetReal2014

            🙂

          • GetReal2014

            Nothing redeemable about that heifer. It’s all coming back on her too. I can’t wait until Sherian comes on the show. That’s going to be so funny.

          • Bobbi

            Yes. Apollo one upp’p her. Phaedra probably cheated first for all we know.

          • GetReal2014

            Piñata anyone?

          • Bobbi

            Okaaaaay?

        • GetReal2014

          Maybe they forgot how they mimicked Kenya and some even wished her death. They blamed her for her mother’s abandonment of her, but now…

          People are supposed to be so sensitive to Phaedra’s troubles.

          How about going on a whore calling media tour with zero receipts and never sincerely apologizing. Why would I be sensitive to this nasty bich? Or lying about Todd not having a job. Pretending she didn’t know what happened to Apollo’s cars, not knowing her due date, and a whole host of others lies.

          I have no sympathy for her and I don’t feel bad about it. I think she’s evil and doesn’t care about anyone else, so there’s no point in me caring about her.

          • The Champ

            That’s the reason I brought up Kenya. Ppl seem to forget all the hateful things this Phaedra has done. These are only a few examples of the evil she has brought upon others. You can’t sit around and treat others bad and think the sh*t won’t come back to you. Apollo has met his karma and now she shall face hers. It’s the way of the world.

          • GetReal2014

            Selective amnesia. I don’t think people forget though. I think it just doesn’t drive their true agenda. Always acting as if they’re confused and don’t remember any of the things that Phaedra has done.

            Thankfully, no matter which blog you go to there’s a ton of people who know how Phaedra is. That’s why she has no many negative nicknames and so many people are through with her shady behind.

          • The Champ

            Exactly. We all have a right to our opinion and I call bull💩. I don’t like how she tried to exploit Drama’s mom over “the bomb” situation. That scene was completely wrong on Phaedra’s part. Just shows you how far she will go to explain her lies away.

          • GetReal2014

            Further proof that she’ll use anyone and anything to advance her devilish agendas.

          • The Champ

            You know it. She has no discretion about herself. She doesn’t care who her lies affect others.

          • GetReal2014

            Classic sociopath.

          • The Champ

            Sounds about right. She needs counseling, something really bad happened in her life. You are not born evil.

          • GetReal2014

            Nature vs. nurture? I’m not sure.

          • The Champ

            I don’t know either, but I do know you don’t get that way overnight.

          • Bobbi

            I agree. Something evil happened in that house. There are articles saying she was a witch doctor who made concoctions for abortions. If I remember ever correctly AS mentioned it as well. Isn’t that why her mom sued VIBE?Phaedra certainly hid that pregnancy/conception from her. Her moms is certainly hood talking about “Should I bring my blade”…..Out here perpetrating like a sweet, old church lady. They are both fake and the dad doesn’t even talk. Something is rotten in Denmark.

          • GetReal2014

            I keep forgetting about the witch doctor and the lobotomized dad. Speaking of which, what was up with the anger on her brother’s face? He looked demented too.

          • Bobbi

            I missed the brother. When?

          • GetReal2014

            Girl, the brother was a part of that fake security meeting. His name was Albert but his last name wasn’t Parks. He looked off, for real.

          • Bobbi

            Lol. You know what’s strange? I have watched that episode 2 1/2 times now trying to catch that scene and I keep missing it. The 3rd time I just gave up. I didn’t know her brother was in there. I’ve only gotten as far as the Nation looking around to see if they could find another bomb “as cd. 😂 Lololololol. Now I want to see her brother. Lol.

          • GetReal2014

            They show him as soon as Phaedra comes into the room. It’s before she even sits down. His name is Albert Bell and the caption says Phaedra’s brother. It’s quick, if you look away you’ll miss it.

          • Bobbi

            Def going to look for him. I saw a pic of her brother once and thought he looked too normal to be Phaedra’s brother. This sounds closer to what I imagined he would be.

          • GetReal2014

            LOLOLOL! “This sounds closer to what I imagined he would be.”

            In that case, you won’t be disappointed. That is one scary looking mofo.

          • The Champ

            I wouldn’t step foot in their church. How can her mother sit up there and condone her daughters behavior? She raised her to be this way, otherwise she would have no parts in it. Church lady my azz. She has that same ole scrowl on her face as Phaedra. They are both bitter and vengeful.

          • Bobbi

            Who are you telling?? I agree that both are hateful and vengeful. I was saying this to GetReal the other day; When she mentioned the blade I saw her real face for a second. She is NOT who she claims to be that’s for sure.

          • The Champ

            Not at all. Anyone in their right mind can see that. The way she sat up in that staged board meeting was humorous 😁😁

          • GetReal2014

            Right, going along with a lie. Pfft!

          • The Champ

            I will never understand. I’d rather be hurt by the truth than live a lie. That’s why I don’t go around telling lies, I know how harmful they can be. Yes, I have lied b4 and there were repercussions. I learn from my mistakes and go out of my way not to repeat them. I do not condone lying and will not make excuses for them. You can’t trust a liar or a theif.

          • The Champ

            Good Night GetReal, until next time ☺

          • The Champ

            Saw AS doing an interview on ig last night. She repeated what we already know 😑

          • Bobbi

            Hahaha. I definitely have to go back and watch this board meeting.

          • The Champ

            I saw your girl on AS on ig last night. She said Snakedra knew exactly what her and Apollo were up to. You are who you lay with 😌

          • Bobbi

            Right?! I think it’s only a matter of time till she becomes more vocal. She has only reactivated since Nov I think. But this proves there is no gag order or anything against her because she is speaking freely. So let’s think about that for a minute too because that in itself says Phaedra is guilty. There is no way in the world a person would be allowed to go around calling you an accomplice to a crime and you can’t do anything about it if it were false. Or allowed to keep that book on the market. You know, It’s funny too that Phaedra’s mother sued VIBE for deformation and not AS. That spoke volumes.
            Your last line reminded me of a quote I read that said “When the character of someone is not clear to you, look at their friends.”

          • The Champ

            That’s real. A quote we should all live by. AS seemed confident in her statements during the brief interview. I only caught a short glimpse on ig, but she said more than enough. She also said she did a total of 2 years in jail. I didn’t sense that she was bitter or even mad. I really thinks she wants the world to know her truth. Imagine having your entire life and character jeopardized. She has paid her debt to society and I hope she does right by her children, moving forward. She has struggle written all over her face.

          • The Champ

            GN Bobbi, talk soon ☺

          • Bobbi

            GN Champ.

          • GetReal2014

            I don’t know. Phaedra reminds me of The Bad Seed, but that house had to contribute too.

          • The Champ

            I know something happened and they do too. She is promiscuous pervert and that ain’t by accident. Learned behaviors.

          • GetReal2014

            Ha ha ha.

          • The Champ

            She’s so nasty 😵😵

          • GetReal2014

            I just re-watched that scene and I heard where Drama’s mom said, “You have nothing to fear.”

            Aren’t they supposed to be talking about a CD? Why would Phaedra fear a CD?

            That’s what happens when you tell a lie, you have to have a good memory, and Phaedra can’t keep her lies straight.

            It’s a bomb, but I’m not afraid of a bomb, because the bomb is actually a CD, but my parents want to spare me from coming into contact with a CD, and the bodyguard is there to protect my ears from the CD. That’s why he called a meeting and had my brother , mother, and governess there so they’ll know not to play bomb CDs in the house.

            And yet, some people still don’t understand how much this bich lies. Make sense out of all of those lies. I dare you.

          • The Champ

            That’s why the scene was edited and cut short. She came there to clear her sons name. He indeed threatened Phaedra for doing him dirty. I guess Phaedra spared him bcuz she knew she was foul. “Bomb cd” dumbest sh*t I’ve ever heard. And ppl believe it too 😂😂😂

          • GetReal2014

            True, the scene was obviously butchered. We the viewers didn’t even get to see the purpose of that scene. Of course he threatened Phaedra. I agree 100% on the bomb CD, that has to be the worst lie she’s ever told, but you’re right, she has some people believing that inanity. SMDH.

          • The Champ

            It was choppy as heck. Another one of Phaedra’s many schemes. I don’t like how she exploited and used that woman. I’m over her lies. I’m just gonna sit back and watch everything unfold 😌

          • GetReal2014

            I wasn’t even paying it that much attention because I didn’t see the point. Thank you for pointing out “You have nothing to fear.” That was the clue to make me look at it again. There was no reason to fear if it was just a CD, so that got the wheels turning. Then the rest of the scene was butchered to hail, so I knew Phaedra’s dirty hands were involved.

          • The Champ

            I think Drama’s mom came with the intentions of clearing her sons name. But, why would she have to if he didn’t do anything? Why are they even discussing whether or not he was gonna hurt her? I didn’t hear a mention of a Cd. She ain’t foolin nobody but her LIE hard fans 😂😂

          • GetReal2014

            You’re right about that. Excellent point, if he didn’t do anything Phaedra would have nothing to fear. Why would someone make an appointment to talk about a CD. That was just Phaedra trying to legitimize her position by acting like Drama’s mother was her friend and therefore nothing happened.

            But again, “You have nothing to fear” lets you know that Drama threatened her, just like you said.

            And no, the CD wasn’t mentioned in any part of what we saw. You would think that would’ve been mentioned as the purpose of the visit, but how was Phaedra going to finagle that?

          • The Champ

            You can’t make me understand that bull crap. I know I wasn’t born a fool and she ain’t foolin me. We may never know what Phaedra did to set Drama off. But we do know he was threatening to “blow her tf up”. Why haven’t we heard from Drama and where is he??

          • GetReal2014

            Phaedra not only got Drama out of this mess by not pressing charges, but I think she paid Drama’s mama off too. I think that’s why we haven’t heard from Drama, because his mother got paid.

            As mad as he was, considering that he was going to blow her tf up, it makes no sense that he crawled back into the woodwork. I’d be willing to bet that some cash changed hands, and it all came out of Phaedra’s pocket.

    • Mary costea

      Kandi betrayed Phaedra way before Phaedra hung out with NeNe . Hiding her exes stuff from her and the feds betrayal. Laughing while someone spread rumors about affair. Is a betrayal. Kandi is the most two faced person. And laughing at a pigeon attack and possible bomb threat big difference. Taking an convicted felons side is a betrayal. Spreading rumors that Phaedra was involved is just vile. Phaedra’s humor is very mean spirited toward Kenya but so is Kenya’s the only one that isn’t just mean at times is Cynthia.

      • The Champ

        I’m almost for certain Phaedra knew about Apollo’s things in Kandi’s garage. And if she didn’t so what,why would she expect Kandi to hold onto her deceitful lies anyway? Why did Kandi reveal this on television? Doesn’t add up does it? More lies. Mr. Chocolate is real and Kandi knew it all along. The way Phaedra is quick to call others whores, all along she was the one whoring. According to lying azz Snakedra there was no bomb threat, another laughable lie. Phaedra is the one who introduced her felonious husband to the group in the first place. She [email protected] sure knew what her husband was or wasn’t doing and she also reaped the benefits. Kenya’s assault can be compared to the “alleged” bomb Cd💣💣 💿💿 . One was a threat and the other was an actual assault. Was Phaedra harmed in anyway?

  • BetteDavisEyez1

    Can someone tell me the lies that Phaedra has told that destroyed people’s lives… I’ll wait…

    • Shelly Jones

      He/She’s referring to Apollo’s fraud…. I assume.

      • BetteDavisEyez1

        Who is referring to Apollo’s fraud?!? And like you posted, Apollo’s fraud.
        What lies has Phaedra told that has ruined anyone’s lives?!?

        • Shelly Jones

          In a post below someone mentioned that Pha has ruined lives with her lies. I assume they mean lying about knowing that her Husband was committing fraud thus ruining said lives. Lol….like I said just my assumption.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            But wouldn’t that be Apollo ruined lives as he is the one that committed the fraud?!?
            If this is what was meant, then why is Kandi & everyone else still associating with the actual criminal but bashing his, atmost complacent wife?!?

          • Shelly Jones

            Bette, you may not agree with them, but there are several valid points in threads below that give you insight into opposing opinions. Many of us have watched Pha lie and deceive viewers from her very first season. Lol. Perhaps some believe that because she didn’t to anything to stop the crimes, she inadvertently enabled him.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Thank you!! I appreciate your response.
            I like Phaedra but I have admitted she has lied. So I’m not going to sit here & be okay with anyone lying, period.
            In my opinion, Apollo committed the crimes, yet Phaedra is the one that is constantly bashed. The biggest mistake that woman ever made was hooking up with that fraud.
            Whether you want to believe she is guilty because she knew what he was up to, that’s fine but to say she PHAEDRA has ruined lives is an exaggeration. Apollo ruined lies & he is where he belongs. If the Feds found any evidence that she was involved, she would have gone ‘asunder’ right along with him.

          • Shelly Jones

            Agreed. I don’t like her because I believe she’s fake. Apollo is to blame for being “asunder”. Lol

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Exactly. No one is to blame for Apollo’s situation but Apollo.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Here is a perfect example, there was a serial killer. He use to dress up as a clown for children’s parties… I forget his name… anyway…
            This man had atleast 20 bodies buried in his basement. His wife didn’t have a clue. So it really isn’t that far fetched that Phaedra didn’t know but she may have suspected.
            The fact that she lied about her due date does not mean that she lies about everything. It is also hypocritical to keep pointing out her lies when there is another person on the show that has told twice as many fibs. LOL!!
            Happy Holidays by the way.

          • Shelly Jones

            Awww Happy Holidays… to you as well. Trust me, I understand your point. Personally, I don’t think that Pha was involved in his recent crimes. But many people believe that because of his past crimes and her alleged that a lawyer would not at least have an idea that her husband is up to no good. When someone asked her what Apollo did for a living, she pretended not to know. Lol. My dislike of Pha has nothing to do with her husband.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Believing it & saying over & over ad nauseam as if it is a fact are two different things. No?!?
            I total get why people don’t like her but hating someone for lying & then lying on them is just hypocritical.
            Not directed at you… I have to post disclaimers when it comes to the ATL. SMDH

          • Shelly Jones

            No offense taken…it’s fun getting into these online discussions about these shows. Thanks for the exchange…I will be looking for you on the next RHOA post…lol If I have not said it already, Happy Holidays!

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Same here. I am looking fwd to no more MJ or Matt scenes. No more Don Juan would be great as well.
            I can not believe it’s only 4 days until Xmas.

          • Shelly Jones

            I can’t. And as usual, I’m not ready 😩

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            I always plan to be down by no later than the 23rd but am always still shopping on Xmas eve.

          • The Champ

            Thank you for your insight. There are many reasons I dislike Phaedra and her husband ain’t got nothing to do with it. Ppl see and believe what they want to and that’s their prerogative. But, when we go around lurking and speaking on others opinions as If they are lying is asinine. I refuse to be involved with that kind of behavior. You were kind for try to explain and I appreciate it. It’s ok that we all don’t agree, but we should be able to voice our opinions and agree to disagree w/o being called liars. As hard as I try some things just can’t be ignored (indirect shots). Phaedra is the biggest know liar in the franchises history. Happy Holidays, again thank you for all your efforts 🎅 “I shaid, what I shaid”😁😁

          • Shelly Jones

            LMAO!!!! ” I shaid what I shaid” …. CLASSIC …LOVE IT!… Thanks for the comment.

          • The Champ

            😁😁😁You’re always welcome, Thank you for your kindness and non bias it’s greatly appreciated around here.☺

          • Bobbi

            Yeah what’s that about? Still butt hurt I guess. One down (Nene) and two to go and they are well on their way.

            Phaedra’s dirt stands on its own and in spite of Apollo who was the loser in this relationship imo. He didn’t have to end up with this lying crook who chased him till he gave in. There are more folks out here vouching for Phaedra’s guilt than her innocence. She has been dragged by AS in a book, in court and in the local news and yet, No one has ever stepped up to vouch for her integrity. No. One. Instead everyone moves around it like it is the elephant in the room. That speaks volumes to me. I ain’t sold on this dirty bird. She is fake, phony AND guilty.

          • The Champ

            You know it girl! Like you said, her character speaks for itself. Ppl like to change your wording to fit their agenda, typical Phaedra fashion. Reading is fundamental. I may not be able to prove that joker was hands on the theft ring, but one thing is for sure, she is a habitual liar. That’s enough for me.