10 Shocking Facts About David Beador’s Violent History and Shannon Beador’s Dicey Reality

Posted on Oct 28 2016 - 9:11am by BeachSpin

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Real Housewives of Orange County viewers have been chattering about reality secrets leaked — major tea spilled as the cast waved goodbye to Ireland.

Kelly revealed that Vicki had told her that David Beador “beat the sh*t out of his wife,” and the on-camera disclosure was a shocker. However, Shannon’s husband’s violent history is no secret.

Consider the following ten facts about David’s past, and Shannon’s possibly precarious reality.

1. In February 2003, Newport Beach Police Department responded to a call from the Beador home — two years into their marriage.

2. David Beador was arrested by Newport Beach police and charged with misdemeanor counts of assault and “battery against a cohabitant.”

3. David pleaded GUILTY to both charges. David was forced to admit in court that he “willfully and unlawfully used force and violence” against his wife.

4. David completed three years of informal probation, 10 days in a work program, and a voluntary batterer’s treatment program, under the terms of his plea deal.

5. In 2014, Shannon told Star Magazine of the incident, “There was no abuse, no physical anything. We had an argument that was resolved very quickly afterward. I just thought that if I called the police, the fight would end. We’ve moved on; it’s over and done.”

6. Prosecutors don’t pursue cases that they can’t prove with solid evidence. Shannon’s story simply does not match the outcome.

7. Shannon allegedly told Vicki Gunvalson about being beaten by David, during their past close friendship. Shannon trusted Vicki with David’s affair secret, so it’s fair to assume that other marriage confidences were shared. 

8. The specific purported incident that Vicki shared with Kelly remains unclear. The report of the 2003 episode had long been made public — and was no secret. Shannon’s shock and anger at the disclosure might point to a possible separate incident. Reportedly, Shannon shared incriminating photos after the episode, and Vicki has not yet chosen to expose them.

9. Shannon reacted to Kelly’s blurt with anger and hurt — but her first reaction was not to label the accusation a lie. Shannon instantly reacted by tearfully blasting Kelly and Vicki — telling them to “shut up” before stuttering out a string of comments about her renewed family. Only one “he did not” was offered as a rather weak denial, until Shannon later reiterated her position in a personal interview spot.

10. Shannon continues to deny any abusive episode, but will not address the authorities pursuing a conviction, and how David’s admission to “battery against a cohabitant” equates to “nothing physical.” 

In the same 2014 interview Shannon said of her new reality project, “We had a sit-down with the family, and I said, ‘If we do this, we’re going to go all in — no censorship — because if you tell me you can’t talk about something, I’m not going to do it. I hope viewers realize that I’m completely honest and authentic.”

Shannon has been busy lashing out at her critics on her Facebook page, calling fans who question her defense, “morons,” and reasserting that David “never physically touched” her.

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Shannon nods to the reunion as the time and place for clarity — do you think we can expect the “honest and authentic” truth?

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  • RAW

    I definitely believe Shannon. It was soon after they were married, and they possibly didn’t trust each other enough, yet. But saying she was beaten in front of the kids is egregious. It’s none of their business, they don’t care, and bringing it up as if Shannon did something wrong is vile.

    • Chi Town Baby

      Your reasoning defiles logic. By law, the definition of battery, means David actually physically used force against his wife. Battery is a serious charge and would not be used unless David assaulted Shannon. I completely understand you are a Shannon fan, however, logic and facts has sullied your deductive reasoning.

      • RealitytvJunkie

        Very intelligent and well put.

      • Bad Barbie

        THANK YOU! Infuriating how people love to play the semantics game but then when it really does apply they act dumb.

    • Mental Iceberg 🏇

      “It was soon after they were married”.

      Does that matter, when it happened? Two years or twenty years after a couple are married, no one…man or wife…should put their hands on their spouse.

      Shannon wants transparency in regards to her life whilst being filmed. Ok. Then be transparent. To walk back a conviction and sugar coat it is being disingenuous, to say the least.

      I’d have a lot more respect for her is she said something along the lines of “It was a low point in our marriage, David acted in a bad way and has since gone to counseling for his issues, and we have strived to improve our marriage and to grow as a couple” blah, blah, blah.

      Instead, she is basically denying that anything occurred. I’ve had many an argument with SOs, the only time I needed to call the police to end them was when, in fact, my husband turned physically abusive.

      “I hope viewers realize I am completely honest and authentic”. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d224d2c45a8e775510475505a42e0cb4786c72de9cc49587c14b3a83e1d5492.gif

      • Birdie

        Shannon acts like the contrived vow renewal PROVES that her husband is a dream hub and a devoted lamb. Uh ok. 🙄

      • RAW

        She said he didn’t hit her, ever. So whatever it was, it wasn’t a hit.Why do we need to know? Shes not hiding it, it came out their first year on the show. But what Vicki said, that he can’t abuse her like he does Shannon, is so vile.And I believe Vicki made it up, because she was mad at him.

      • RealitytvJunkie

        Love the gif.

      • Bad Barbie

        PEople have 2 sets of rules. Here and on the show. I bet if it was Vicky that was getting beaten they would all be like “YASSSSSSSSSSSSS beat her ass”

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          If it was Vicki that was getting beat, every last one of those women would be putting ever incident out there. Every other day, on the show & every SM outlet.

    • Bad Barbie

      Yo you can’t be serious. lol Y’all crazy for real. She talks shit about everyone. She is fair game.

      • RealitytvJunkie

        She’s dead serious lol. Smh.

  • Marsbars09

    David would not have been under 3 years probation, a 10 day work program and voluntarily attended a batter’s treatment program if “nothing physical happened” as Shannon harped. I believe there were other incidents of DV between Shannon and David.
    I thought I read somewhere that Shannon “went away” for 2 weeks to recover from one of David’s beatings. If Icky has photographic proof of Shannon’s injuries and exposes them…I don’t know.
    I think the longer Shannon stays on the show the more the show and/or viewers will focus on any alleged physical assaults. Shannon needs to be forthright because most viewers aren’t buying what she’s claiming.
    Who I feel most sorry for are Shannon and David’s daughters. They may live in the lap of luxury but they are deeply affected by their parents’ trauma and dysfunction.

  • Bryan

    No of course not, Loon Beador thinks if she keeps screaming and yelling and sobbing that her marriage and family are fine, they will really be fine, obviously they are, just look at how she reacts to anything, especially the nonsense with the mom in law, something she should have just brushed off , instead sends her into an emotional tail spin, throwing fits in public and stomping off to the bathroom to sob

    Hopefully SHE is the one that is getting the boot, She and her family are more toxic then Blandi’s cooch,

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Lolol 😂

  • RealitytvJunkie

    Thanks Beach. This outline lays all the facts in the case out. There is no denying Shannon is a liar and David is a criminal predator.

  • Misty Prey

    Why would someone attack/shame someone for being a victim? Why would anyone think it’s OK to use someone’s past abuse as ammunition? That’s totally warped! Even if the abuse rose to “beating the shit out of [victim]” versus low-level battery, why on earth would you use that shame her? Who cares if the victim is downplaying abuse from 13 years ago?!

    This is a cheap attack that only morons would treat as meaningful or substantial.

    • This is about integrity and priorities in my opinion. She has children. Denial and lying only perpetuates destructive behavior.

      I think the problem is Shannon’s constant references to being honest, and an “open book”. She has maligned people’s integrity from nearly her first episode, and touted her own moral code, stating over and over how she doesn’t lie, how she has shared everything with viewers, etc.

      Being a victim of domestic abuse is awful. And nobody is denying that.

      But what is really terrible is to perpetuate a fantasy, and pretend it didn’t happen, in order to promote your personal brand, and make money. She obviously knew David is unstable and doesn’t respond to stress in healthy ways. And chose to put her family under incredible pressure, for multiple seasons now. Why? And look at the result? A year long affair. Then she exploited it and even involved her children in it.

      This is why Vicki revealed what the public records documented. Shannon cannot claim to be a pillar of integrity, an open book and at the same time conceal something so major, that recasts all her marital problems, and her husband’s conduct, in a completely different light.

      Honestly, I am worried about her. She drinks too much. She doesn’t look well. She is bashing people on SM? And to deny the abuse when there are public records documenting it is ridiculous. I don’t understand why at this point. It’s irrational. “open books” don’t behave like this.

      • Misty Prey

        Dude it occurred thirteen years ago! That doesn’t dock their relationship and family situation presently — at least not significantly. The only persons desperate to cut down the situation are ones coming from ignorance.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          She seems like the type that would call the cops on him just to say “I’m not your employee asshole. I’m NEVER putting up with your sh*t”.
          I’d do the same thing if my husband even STARTED to cross a line with me. And I’d make sure he knew it was never going to happen again.

          • Misty Prey

            lol I kind of am in the similar school of thought. For instance, if I was EVER sexually harassed at work, I wouldn’t hesitate to immediately report and consult an attorney.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            yep. You gotta fight back, and fight back like you mean it, or lots of people in this world will take advantage. sad truth, but it IS the truth.

          • Again, cops don’t arrest without evidence of abuse, and victim statement claiming it. And the D.A. doesn’t charge a man without evidence. And a man doesn’t NOT take a plea and fulfill his sentencing requirement because he did nothing.

          • Bad Barbie

            Cops do arrest with nothing but arrest doesn’t equal conviction.

          • They always have some sort of legal pretext for the arrest though. Usually, the pretext is “disorderly conduct” and the cop will claim the person mouthed off.

        • !3 years ago — who cares. One conviction is enough to set off major alarms for most people.

          David is an aggressive man — we have seen evidence of it on camera. Even Heather found his behaviour to be inappropriate. And add a year long affair with Shannon’s friend? Handing the wedding ring to her daughter before he moved out?

          David Beador has issues, way beyond infidelity. And Shannon, the “open book” has done her best to clean that up . She needs to be honest — really honest and stop attempting to perpetuate a fantasy. There are children in that house!

          • Misty Prey

            Actually, most people as well as government and court systems do care about timelines. You know why? Because information and memory become suspect as time progresses. That’s why we have little things called statutes of limitations, probation periods, and privacy rights.

          • We have court records. We don’t need to rely on memories.

            Privacy rights? Again it’s public record.

            And the statute of limitations would prohibit a district attorney from pressing charges years later. It has nothing to do with this. Nor does the fact that David’s sentence was served.

            I don’t give David a “pass” because his conviction was 13 years ago. That’s me. Shrug. And I still don’t understand why Shannon is lying about it now. Why not be honest about it?

          • Marsbars09

            I feel if Shannon believes the DV assault on record was “much ado about nothing” she would just give a brief statement on it and leave it at that. But no, she either won’t comment or she flips her lid like she did on the bus in Ireland.

          • Bad Barbie

            I am with you and these people are batshit crazy. There is a good tactic in court and that is to prove someone is “habitual”. Guess how you do that? With past incidents and “sealed” records are not forever sealed. They are sealed to the public but not to authorities.

          • Bad Barbie

            There is also “Habitual” status. You better believe it matters in court.

          • Misty Prey

            I think you need to bone up on your evidence law before you define a conviction from 13 years ago as habit.

          • Bad Barbie

            I don’t need to do anything. Repetitive behavior is easy to prove when you already have a conviction on it.

          • Misty Prey

            No, that’s not how evidence works. I’m guessing you’re one of those internet lawyers.

          • Marsbars09

            And don’t forget about David bringing his mistress to dinner with his mother.

          • Kitty

            I just read an article about Shannon and there’s a part where they’ve quoted her talking about her Feng Shui, how she got in to it and she said “I was willing to give Feng Shui a try, but my husband wasn’t. I called Elaine (the feng shui expert) anyway and when she came to my home, my husband was so angry that he would barely speak to Elaine.
            …all that over a Feng Shui expert…
            And the other thing, she’s forgiven hom for a year long affair, gf meeting his family etc. so I personally don’t find it hard to believe she would “forgive” the abuse.

        • Bad Barbie

          Wait what? Abuse is abuse IDGAF if it was 20 yrs ago. You are acting like this was some bad outfit he wore 13 years ago. Yes, it does dictate the state of their relationship. It is a toxic one, hence loaded with infidelity too.

          • Misty Prey

            You’re missing the point of my comments. I can’t respond to you anymore because you have a similar critical thinking level as Kelly Dodd.

    • sideof Sour Cream

      Because the Old Goat needs to do what it takes to take the spotlight off her despicably immoral and evil cancer con with Crooks. Her depraved mind thinks: Crooks may have lied about having cancer, but at least he never beat me up.

      • wellWellwell

        Didn’t Brianna say Brook’s did get physical with Vicki?

        • sideof Sour Cream

          I don’t remember, but if he did, that would make even more sense for Icky to want to paint Shannon with the same brush. Icky is sick and evil. She’s still in Jr. High and will never grow up.

          • wellWellwell

            Exactly she would paint her that way. I believe Brianna said it at the reunion when she told Vicki that Brooks told Ryan to beat her..remember that?

          • sideof Sour Cream

            Yes! I do remember that. That was a great reunion. And Brooks didn’t deny it, did he? He just said he was drunk..? is that right?

          • wellWellwell

            No he did not deny it. That is right, I could see Brook’s as a violent person especially when drinking. I noticed someone would call him out on something and his so called ‘sweet demeanor’ would change quickly, imagine him drinking.
            Vicki is playing ‘squirrel’ this season.

          • Marsbars09

            Great point Well. We’ve never seen Crooks’ dark side.

          • wellWellwell

            Well we have if you think about it, just not throwing actual punches.
            He told Ryan to beat Brianna so just the suggestion speaks volumes.
            I’m sure this isn’t anything Brooks hasn’t done himself.

          • Marsbars09

            I’m talking about seeing Crooks in action, not just what he said.

          • wellWellwell

            Oh, I read that wrong Mars Lol. I’m putting a list together in my head what I need to do this weekend, needless to say I am not a multitasker.

          • Marsbars09

            No worries. It’s all fun and snark around here. 🙂

          • Indy

            Since Vicki is on TV, there is no way she would call the police on Brooks if he hit her. The acknowledgment that she is scared of him spoke volumes. She needs to stay in her glass house with all of her stones.

          • wellWellwell

            Do you really believe she was scarred of him or using that as a pity act?
            and why, if scared of him would she start the season calling him..know what I mean.

          • Indy

            Yes. Vicki seems to have some kind of unhealthy co-dependency thing going on with Brooks. I don’t know, it’s strange and bizarre but she was with this man since and during her marriage. 😏

          • wellWellwell

            I have always though he had something on her maybe illegal or a dirty secret she doesn’t want out there that could hurt her insurance business. I think she pays him to stay quite.

          • Indy

            Very possible. She would do anything to keep her secrets buried.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Ryan didn’t strike me as the type that needed to be told to beat Brianna.
            Just look at the way he treated his MIL in her own house & how he treated Lydia’s mother. IJS

          • wellWellwell

            This is so true Betty, I sometimes forget the past scenes until a poster reminds me. That was so disturbing, it’s clear he has issue’s too.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            That guy moved up in Vicki’s house & acted like he owned the place. Then the way he went off on Lydia’s mother & everyone acted as if they were afraid to check him, sent up all sorts of red flags in my book.

          • wellWellwell

            I agree…red flags. Have you ever noticed when Vicki interacts with him she kiss’s his rear and it’s, yes this Ryan yes that Ryan. No telling what she has promised/bought for them to buy their love.
            I remember her several times telling him “I have a whole list of chores for you” ugh! Vicki taught her daughter well, it’s ok to be around an abuser.
            Plus when Vicki hugs him, it’s too long and I always get the feeling she’s going to play grab azz with him. Creeps me out.

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            I think she sucks up to him as a way to keep the peace. He seems like a hothead to me.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            I’m not watching this season. That’s how much I can’t stand the Old Goat, seriously. But I come here to read the re-caps and read all the funny comments. I’m thinking I may DVR the reunion though, if there are enough hints that it’s going to be an Icky beat-down.

            (What does playing “squirrel” mean?)

          • wellWellwell

            Yes at least watch the reunion. From gossip sites she gets called out.
            playing squirrel means ‘look over there not at what I am doing’

          • sideof Sour Cream

            I think I will watch it~

            and thx for teaching me something new today 🙂

          • wellWellwell

            yw..Happy Friday SC 🙂

          • Indy

            Vicki admitted at the reunion she was scared of him.

          • wellWellwell

            Hi Indy. She did didn’t she, I forgot that with all her double talk.

          • Indy

            Hi well! Yes. Andy asked her explicitly if she was scared of him and she said yes.

          • wellWellwell

            and then started this season out calling him on the phone from her get away car. I think they are secretly hooking up.

          • Indy

            I do too. I’ve always thought they were still seeing each other on the “down low”. The telephone call just confirmed it. Strange there has never been any talk about it. 🤔

          • wellWellwell

            Conveniently that was swept over. I wonder if that will be brought up at the reunion..

          • Marsbars09

            I think Andy needs to straight up ask Icky if she’s still in contact with Crooks.

          • wellWellwell

            Even if he did she would lie. I just don’t think a pandering con-artist like him goes away not when someone was footing the bills and they got accustom to that nice lifestyle.

          • Indy

            Yep. And I have to say again because I’ve been reading comments over the last couple of weeks that Vicki DID lie. The comments that Vicki was deceived by Brooks is total BS.

            First of all, it isn’t possible to live with someone over a year and not know whether they have cancer or not. Secondly, Vicki LIED about calling TERRI that one night about having one of his colleagues come over and give him an IV. Thirdly, Vicki stated numerous times that all of his information was in the infamous binder. She admitted at the reunion that was not true. She has flip flopped so many times it’s ridiculous. She stepped right up to the line at the reunion and was starting to admit her part in the lie, then backed up and doubled down. The glee that so many have over Shannon’s marriage problem is sickening.

            All the women are POS. BUT, only one LIED about their boyfriend having cancer and then tried to make money off of it.

          • wellWellwell

            All of your points are true. She did all those things and more.

            I take no glee in Shannon’s troubles but she put the spot light on them by coming on this show and continuing to stay. For God sake none of these people think about the effect it could have on their kids.

            I can’t stand any of these women except Kelly right now and that’s because she isn’t as mean seasoned as these shallow women. I think she needs to control herself but what she has said in the moment of her anger to these women are true about each and everyone of them.
            These women know how to play the HW game better than she does.

          • Indy

            No. I’m not giving a pass to Shannon at all. But it seems like some cannot admit that you can blame both Shannon AND Vicki for the situations they have found themselves in. I certainly don’t give a pass to Kelly at all. The woman has restraining orders and all kinds of problems in her past. She’s as revolting as anyone to me. Bravo should have bought Vicki a friend who didn’t have such a sordid past. She’s batshit crazy IMO. 🤓

          • wellWellwell

            So true. I guess I give Kelly a pass because she single handily went toe to toe with these witches with no back up. You know how that goes next season she will be one of the most hated HW’s I will be complaining..
            They need a recast desperately.

          • Indy

            Pull the plug! Stick a fork in it, it’s DONE!!

          • Dayle Hudson

            Kellys mom and brother seem really strange

          • Indy

            REALLY strange. 😳

          • Indy

            Probably not. Vicki gets what Vicki wants from Andy. Just like Beth. This entire season has revolved around taking the heat off her and onto the others.

          • wellWellwell

            Yes it has, what a see through set up.

          • Dayle Hudson

            I have complained many times about Andy being so devoted to Vicky. I don’t get it. She could never be a true friend and is a list.

          • Indy

            IKR? I don’t get it either. 🙄

          • Marsbars09

            Indy and Well, I’m sorry, but your comment re: Icky and Crooks possibly hooking up is so damn funny!

          • Dayle Hudson

            Vicky is saying she has a new boyfriend. I can’t believe how needy she is.

          • Marsbars09

            LMAO @ your whole comment.

          • wellWellwell

            :>

          • Bad Barbie

            Ryan already beat his ex though. I’m sleep.

          • wellWellwell

            Did he go to jail for doing that?

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            Thank you!! I just posted that Ryan doesn’t need any lessons on beating women.

        • Marsbars09

          Yes.

        • Chickpea16

          Brianna said Brooks was shaking Vicki by the shoulders and her head was bobbing back and forth. This happened at a party and they were in a hallway out of site from guests.

          • wellWellwell

            Thank you Chickpea, I could not recall exactly what it was but that’s it!

          • Chickpea16

            You’re welcome.

        • Bad Barbie

          Brianna needs to STFU and worry about her PTS husband that is also very violent and has records and RO from his previous wife who he also beat.

      • Misty Prey

        But Vicki totally is missing the points of her being ostracized. It’s not about Crooks lying, it’s about her lies. I mean, it drives me nuts how she used several housewives and Terry to back up lies of Crooks! If you’re going to be an alibi to a liar, then you, lady, are a liar!

        • sideof Sour Cream

          Icky misses the point of life in general. She’s emotionally defective. She doesn’t get it, and she likely never will.

          • Misty Prey

            Can you imagine if Bravo started requiring an I.Q. test to be a housewife?

          • sideof Sour Cream

            I’d like to see a complete psychiatric work-up on a few of them, that’s for sure.
            Also I’d love it if the one in the “hot seat” during the reunions, as Andy goes around the couches one by one, would be hooked up to a lie detector test! that would be so fun!

          • Dayle Hudson

            Vicky really does come off as being really dense. She looks like she is confused most of the time. I wouldn’t trust her with anything.

          • Marsbars09

            She won’t.

        • Marsbars09

          Great point Misty.

    • Bad Barbie

      Because people that live in glass houses…. If you have a disfortunate past, stay the fuck out of others business and heal yourself. (Dr. Moon ain’t helping her) Shannon talks about everyone as if she has the perfect life. Gotta remind people of their truth sometimes to see if it humbles them.

      • Misty Prey

        Uh, first that’s not how the saying is applied. Second, Shannon is not someone who talks about how she has the perfect life; she talks about how much they’ve OVERCOME. You know, why don’t you just tell me that even your past as a victim is game for these thirsty lice? Because THAT’s really what you are saying.

        • Bad Barbie

          Yes, that is what I am saying. YOUR ENTIRE life is fair game when you sign up on reality tv and want to pretend you have a perfect life. That is the rule that us viewers apply to everyone else no?
          lol
          Yet,s he is quick to jump on the bandwagon talking about everyone else…

          She is getting a check and fame from her “reality”. Her past is her reality. She didn’t want it out the stay the hell off national tv. That simple. Shannon stays with a man that was charged with “BATTERY” (Operative word here) and also committed ADULTERY. Nothing I am stranger to (both). Guess what? I got a divorce and would not put my face and my children on TV for the biggest price.

          Heather is Next.

          • Misty Prey

            Okay, thanks for your insight.

          • RAW

            But you’re mad at people for questioning Vicki’s storyline? That’s odd.

  • carrot

    I’m torn. I know we don’t see much ‘real’ in these reality shows but from what I’ve watched of Shannon’s story from the start is that she henpecks him terribly. She gets over emotional at the smallest things, starts yelling and then demands him to grovel.(She does this with others as well) This doesn’t sound like a man abusing and beating his wife, she is the dominant one in their relationship.(Unless there’s stuff we don’t see?)

    Also, he has, from what we can see, a close, relaxed relationship with his children. They don’t fear or resent him. They don’t appear to fear Shannon either, but it’s clear they find her controlling.

    Shannon has said she called the cops because she thought it would stop the fight. This rings true to me. I could see Shannon calling the police to ‘win’ and get David to prove his love and regret over their fight. She’s definitely into emotional drama.

    I could also see henpecked David taking all the blame to protect his wife.

    Regardless, Vicki had no business to disclose this, she still thinks lying about Brook’s fake cancer wasn’t a big deal. She wanted to equate her lies with gossip about the others’ relationships.

    • Yes, people call the police to stop arguments.

      But the police arrest men when there is a report of physical abuse and physical indications of same.

      And the district attorney will generally not charge someone unless the victim is cooperative and there is physical evidence.

      So, if what Shannon is saying were true, David probably would not have been arrested, he sure as heck would have not been charged, and he would never have plead guilty to two counts.

      • wellWellwell

        I agree Mitzy but in my state if you call the police on someone and accuse them of assault you better be able to back it up or the police could charge you as ‘falsely reporting an incident’ I just don’t buy her story, did he take the charge just so she wouldn’t? hmm..idk
        If this was as bad as reported surely they had proof, right?

        • Yes, there had to be proof. Legally, I don’t think a D.A. would press multiple charges without evidence to substantiate it. And a wealthy white man would never enter a guilty plea either.

          And where I am from, the police arrest if there is substantiation of the victim’s claim. Usually bite marks, scratches, red marks, bruises forming, etc.

          • wellWellwell

            ah! Vicki said she had pictures that Shannon herself sent her. There was a claim Shannon went to some island to heal from her wounds..idk just read that.

          • Marsbars09

            Hi Well! I read the same thing.

          • wellWellwell

            Hi Mars. Happy Friday!
            As someone said above Shannon could put this to rest if she will just show the police report.
            DavidBeadorIsInnocentHeDidNotHitShanloonBeador..Ha!

          • Marsbars09

            ITA. I posted a similar comment. For some reason Shannon has decided to remain stone silent on the issue.

          • Bad Barbie

            She can’t say shit. The evidence is there. He plead guilty to a crime against her. Who you know that is rich and innocent pleads guilty?

          • Bad Barbie

            If he was so innocent why he plead guilty? He has millions of dollars to defend himself. That should have been easy to get a good lawyer.

          • wellWellwell

            Right, if you think about it wouldn’t that be a lot of time to be sentenced to?

          • Bad Barbie

            He had a choice and money matters when it comes to the best outcome. You don’t plead guilty (even when you’re guilty like OJ) you have the money to afford the best defence possible. Taking a plea must have been the “best” case scenario for him.

          • wellWellwell

            Ouch..”best” case scenario for him” if you put it that way it must have been really bad and she is covering/excusing for him.

          • Bad Barbie

            They can arrest your ass for whatever… the problem is prosecuting you. A lot of people that get “arrested” get summons, RORs, etc. Not everyone that gets arrested gets a record btw. You either take a plea or go to trial.

      • misscalifornia

        I think you need to educate yourself on domestic violence laws. Here is a scenario that could have happened

        They were fighting and She decided to call the police. During the call he took away the cell phone from her and this was heard by the 911 operator and was recorded. The police show up and she is in distress maube has a mark in her wrist from the struggle over the phone. He gets arrested, she doesn’t want to press charges but the DA listens to the call that was recorded and presses charges on their own, which leads to the plea.

        Taking someone’s phone away or blocking them from leaving is considered domestic violence. I do not condone these actions in any way. I just think that people need to be careful when they say someone “beat the shit” out of their wife, when they were not there.

        • Bad Barbie

          What people need to educate themselves is on the technicalities and keywords. You can be ARRESTED a dozen times. To get CHARGED and PROSECUTED, take a plea is a whole different process and BATTERY CHARGES don’t stick on hearsay. Now disorderly conduct, public nuance, etc maybe but not actual battery. Contact must be made and evidence must show that. You leave marks on someone’s skin, you touched them. Now you want to breakdown semantics of “beating the shit out of” there are also different degrees of charges.

          I am sure David didn’t have a public defender representing him so if he took a plea is because he was fucked in defending his innocence.

          • misscalifornia

            I just do not think it is fair to vilify someone that we do not know the details of the event.

            I understand that you probably do not live in California and have not had someone vilified by the courts and CPS. I gave you an honest scenario of how it goes because whenever there is a DV issue that is prosecuted or not CPS gets involved, which I will take cops over CPS any day. CPS is not bound by laws pertaining to perjury or hearsay. The threat of having your kids removed from the home and placed into foster care will make a loving parent say or do anything.

            I would plead guilty to a million crimes to keep my children out of foster care.

          • RHONJ Fan

            David and Shannon’s kids were not in danger of being placed in foster care. If anything David invited the “CPS” to monitor his family with his guilty plea versus a non-guilty plea.

          • misscalifornia

            How do you know? Why are people so quick to feel like they know ALL the facts. I have provided alternative theories that differ and everyone is talking like they were there the night this happened and know all the details of that night.

        • I need to educate myself on the law?

          I have a juris doctorate.

          I have done this for a living for over 20 years.

          I have an extensive background in family law, civil law, and criminal law.
          I have dealt with domestic abuse cases. I have dealt with victims of family violence, women, children, and even men. I have worked with police. I worked for the attorney general fighting for children.

          So trust me, I understand the system. I understand how people get arrested. And I understand how the cases are prosecuted. And I know why people take deals.

          And I also know why victims lie and try to cover for their abusers.

          • misscalifornia

            Oh please. I highly doubt you have a JD, because you would not say something so inflammatory without knowing the facts of the case, beyond evidentiary requirements for a state other than California, where the incident occurred.

            Also you would know that CPS plays a huge part of these cases and is gen they see the wealthy white men you talk about their kids are used as leverage to get them to pay for a bunch of programs in order to keep their kids out of the system.

          • I didn’t say anything “inflammatory.” I stated facts found in public records.

            Why would I pretend to know details of the situation not reflected in the record? What would be the point. I don’t need to hypothesize to understand. The record is pretty clear.

            The better question is, why is Shannon Beador denying the facts found in these records? I don’t understand that.

          • misscalifornia

            I have read your posts and you clearly are stating that he is dangerousso either you are being disingenuous by saying that you have your law degree and then perpetuating that this man is a woman theater without consideration of the legal definition of battery and obviously have zero knowledge of the California domestic violence laws.

          • RHONJ Fan

            “Dangerousso”?…this makes zero sense.

      • carrot

        We have no idea what Shannon told the police that night, nor what emotional state she was in. Remember we have seen this woman absolutely lose it on more than one occasion over really minor things. We do know that David tries to placate her, and takes the blame often for things out of his control.

        If she met the police with hysterical claims that he was hurting her, I would assume that David would be arrested. Someone not abused might argue that he was falsely charged, but if Shannon is controlling, I find it logical that David would plead guilty to save her.

        I’ve known an abusive woman in the past. She told everyone she met that her husband abused her and her children. Very convincing, people hated him. But it was always he that had the broken jaw and the bruises. As the children grew up they started talking about how bad their life had been with their mother. It happens. Women can be abusive too.

        • That’s interesting and very sad.

        • Bad Barbie

          They can arrest him but from that to charges sticking and pleading guilty… Guess what, he has tons of money to get a good lawyer that would have proven that he didn’t actually abuse her. This is all bs.

        • He was arrested for battery.

          So, I think it is fair to assume that she told them she had been battered. And clearly, since David was subsequently charged and convicted, there must have been corroborating evidence collected at the scene or from the victim.

          Are you saying the police lied? They arrested him for battery without any justification for it? Then why was David charged? And why did he ultimately plead guilty?

    • sideof Sour Cream

      Totally agree carrot. I’ve known some battered women in my life, (and I’m talking immediate family). Abused women married to violent men do not act like Shannon Beador. They don’t tell him what to eat, drink, wear, say… anything. They certainly don’t go on shows like this and chance pissing him off even more.
      This just does not ring true to me at all.

      Icky is the worst person on all these shows put together. I would never believe another thing she said. If I were standing outside in the rain, getting drenched, and Icky walked up and said “it’s raining”. I would question whether it was really raining or not! lol~

      • But David Beador plead guilty and admitted in court that he beat her.

        Are you saying a wealthy white man would lie to a judge on the record in open court that he in fact did hit his partner, then fulfill his sentencing requirements, attend a treatment program for batterers, do his community service, because he did not hit his partner, no evidence?

        That doesn’t make sense.

        And FTR — one of the biggest issues with abused women is denial. Shannon acts exactly like a woman who has rationalized the issues to avoid dealing with the realities. David’s infidelity can be viewed in a completely different light given his history of violence in the home.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          What does being “white” and “wealthy” have to do with it?

          • Because there is racial bias in the legal system.

            And there is also a disparity in the justice system for the wealthy Wealthy people can afford attorneys. Attorneys that can assert influence on district attorneys and get charges dropped. And if not, wealthy people can afford to go to trial, hire experts, and defeat bogus charges.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            I’m not going to get into a race baiting conversation with anyone on this website so you can stop right there.

          • I am not baiting anyone. I am stating fact. Have a great day.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            stop it or I will block you.

          • please do! Again, have a great day.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            done.

          • Bad Barbie

            LMAOOOOOOOOO clowns on here. I swear. The minute shit starts sounding real they back out of the conversation. IT IS A FACT.

          • Marsbars09

            Or ridicule you.

          • Authentic

            Lol!

          • Hi SideSC……happy Friday. Hope you’ve been well. I don’t mean to butt in but Mitzy’s point is actually a rational one and not race baiting at all. I don’t think she means any harm by pointing out the significance of David’s advantage to beat this case IF he was indeed innocent and the prosecution had a weak case.

          • Authentic

            Nice post Seuss, I thoroughly understood Mitzy.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            hey Suess. I’m not going to talk about race as it pertains to RHs. Please don’t ask me again.

          • Bad Barbie

            100%!!!!!!!!!!!! The system is racist and prejudice. Favoring white america and the wealthy. This is not the proper place for it but this a fact. Whoever wants to say different don’t know shit about the system. I see it all the time.

          • The numbers don’t lie, people do.

          • EXACTLY!!!!! And this is a point of why David had the means to exonerated IF he was “innocent,” like his delusional wife claims.

          • Bad Barbie

            That you can afford a heck of a good defense and your race does matter especially in the OC. Come on now. You have black people getting killed for kicks out here because they are viewed as less than human because of their skin color. Let’s not do the shannon and live in denial now. This is a racist country and the court system is actually very much influenced by racism. Go look at statistics. That is a FACT.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            again, I’m not going to talk about race as it pertains to RHs. Please don’t ask me again.

          • Authentic

            Really??????
            Uuuugggghhhh! I can’t.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            then don’t.

        • carrot

          Sorry, battered women who ‘rationalize’ tend to blame themselves for the abuse. If only they had acted differently their husband/boyfriend would not have had to hurt them.

          Shannon ‘rationalizes’ that if David would only eat what she wants, behave as she wants, do what she wants then she wouldn’t have to yell at him. It’s all his fault. And he has to admit that to everyone in order to make her happy.

          So yes, a wealthy, white man would admit to something he didn’t do in order to please his wife who controls or wants to control every aspect of his life.(If he’s the one actually being abused)

          Think of how many times abused women tell the police and courts that they brought the abuse on themselves. You speak of bias, I think the bias is actually that culturally we don’t expect men to be abused. Wealthy, white men especially. but studies tell us that’s wrong.

          • And some battered women pretend it is not happening. And they lie about it.

            In my experience, wealthy white men don’t take pleas when they didn’t do it, there is no evidence, and when the wife supports the denial. It is unlikely there would even be charges to contest in my experience.

        • Marsbars09

          ITA and very well said.

        • ITA… I think it’s very likely she was drunk as all get out, when over the top bossing him around and belittling him and he couldn’t take it anymore and slapped her. Or threw her down, whatever.

        • RHONJ Fan

          I agree with you.

      • Kitty

        Maybe now that they are in the public eye, she’s found more courage to tell him about things that she doesn’t like about him, all the nagging about the small stuff, because she knows he’d be less likely to abuse her now that the spotlight is on them…

        • sideof Sour Cream

          She has no reason to protect him. She’s not afraid of him. And if he was beating the crap out her I have no doubt one of those girls would tell someone.
          Shannon has a lot of support in her life. She isn’t some isolated housemouse afraid to be alone in the world.

    • Bad Barbie

      Yeah that is all sweet but cops don’t arrest you and the DA prosecute you just because your wife said you were screaming.

    • HearWhatISay

      Screaming is not battery, if so half the husbands would be in jail.

      • wellWellwell

        and wives

        • HearWhatISay

          and children

          • wellWellwell

            yes those especially!

      • Can you imagine? Screaming is a crime. Under the three strikes laws, I’d probably be serving a life sentence. lol

  • wellWellwell

    Says the women who claims “Tamra did not assault anyone”
    You lie and I will swear to it!

  • Distemp

    This is REALLY clickbait. Really.

  • David Beador plead guilty to two counts, even went to a mandatory batterer treatment program, because he did not physically abuse Shannon. The prosecutors charged him because there was no evidence. Got it. Makes total sense. Vicki just made it up.

    Shannon needs to get some help. She has said she was an “open book” how many times now? And David’s criminal history casts their marital troubles in a completely different light.

    • MsM

      Shannon is in deep denial. About everything, Her husband. Her marriage. Her children. Reality in general….

      • Marsbars09

        Hi MsM! I wonder if Shannon is close to her immediate family, if she has any? I truly believe Shannon and her girls are living in a very toxic and unhealthy environment. It doesn’t make sense to me that someone from Shannon’s means stays in such a dangerous situation.

        • MaeMae Foto

          I would like to know her First Husbands name and why they divorced?..hum just wondering?

          • Indy

            She doesn’t have an ex husband.

          • MaeMae Foto

            That I am going to have to find out about. I thought she said it or I read it on line. She married David Beador at age 36. HEr maiden name is Shannon Marie Storms. Kind of late for first marriage but it can happen.

          • Indy

            Hmm. I’ve never heard it. I searched online and didn’t find anything. I didn’t get married until I was 36, so it’s not unheard of. Please post if you find anything.

          • MaeMae Foto

            I will.. just wondering what she did from 1986 when she graduated college to 2003 when she married. 17 years?. Just wondering a lot now…

          • Indy

            IDK. I worked and dated my husband for 14 years before we got married. It’s complicated. 😂

          • Authentic

            Where did you hear that?

          • Marsbars09

            Great question.

          • Authentic

            Where did you read another husband? Anybody?

          • MaeMae Foto

            I thought I saw it on line or she said it. But of course I can’t find it now. But her maiden name is Shannon Maria Storms married to David Beador at age 36. SO now I have to find out what was prior to age 36.

    • Marsbars09

      Shannon is FOS. She doesn’t want certain information to come out about her REAL life just like the rest of these “wives”.

    • Authentic

      Shannon is a pos and how dare she call her fans morons.

  • Cdw789

    We always seem to forget that the OC and the circle they run in aren’t that big and I’m sure people talk. Heather knew about the affair before Shannon disclosed it. They had looked into Kelly’s background and found out about her troubles with the law. This info came out about David a few years ago and Shannon spoke about it so something about this seems odd. Either he has hit her again and Shannon is lying or she really overreacted on the bus.

    • Cdw789

      Normally I wouldn’t reply to my own comment but i forgot to add that Shannon knew about Kelly’s relationship while she was separated. How did Shannon know, did a fairy whisper it in her ear? She has obviously participated in some gossip herself so she needs to quit acting like she doesn’t participate in this kind of crap.

      • Birdie

        She snipes and gossips like a pro. AATT wrote about when David outed them during one of their loony post episode Facebook chats. The deleted video of David and Shannon getting info from one of Kelly’s enemies is in the blog.

        • Cdw789

          I know people hate Vicki but quit singling her out for something all these women have done at some point or another. Heather backed up Vicki’s gossip at the spa so why isn’t Shannon screaming about what a liar Heather is?

          • RAW

            Because Heather later clarified she was talking about his sisters, not mom.

          • Cdw789

            Well her hanging out with the sister really isn’t much better.

      • Marsbars09

        Didn’t Shannon’s “friends” from her 70’s party give her the tea on Kelly?

        • Cdw789

          It appears so. People got upset with Kelly for blurting out gossip when she was angry but Shannon did the same thing at her 70’s party about Kelly so what’s the difference?

          • Bad Barbie

            And even had the botoxed blowup lips lady there calling her out

      • Bad Barbie

        Didn’t you see the two heaux she had at the 70’s party. The one that looked like Janice Dickeson talking about “Trash” looking like a pure russian cokewhore out of Studio 54. Miss me with that.

        • Marsbars09

          You nailed it BB!

          • Bad Barbie

            That lady had some nerves sitting there calling anyone “trash”. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        • RealitytvJunkie

          😵😷😳😂😂😂

    • Marsbars09

      Great point about when David and Shannon’s DV allegation was exposed. I learned this year on this site that David was arrested for assaulting Shannon. If the info. was revealed a few years ago, why is it rearing it’s ugly head once again?
      I truly believe there were recent events of David laying hands on Shannon. She was too upset on the bus when it was revealed David beats her.

      • Look how he bowed up to Vicki at the 70s party. That man has a short fuse. I do love how Vicki did not stand down though.

        • RealitytvJunkie

          Good point to raise. Most abusive men love to buck up to other women but will be passive to an aggressive man.

          • Bad Barbie

            #Bitchmade

          • RealitytvJunkie

            All day, everyday.

        • Bad Barbie

          Yes! That was not cool. That short ass mofo sure has some balls to square up to a woman.

      • Bad Barbie

        Cheaters beat you when they get exposed. Especially if he already did it before. They get upset that they get caught and can’t lay freely anymore. Been there.

        • Marsbars09

          I’m sorry to hear that, BB.

          • Bad Barbie

            I’ve talked about it here before… Yeah been there done that! I have a very strong personality but when a man reacts with his fist you are so shocked you lose all power, combine shock, fear and lack of maturity, you get a trapped victim. I made a plan and a timeline and left his abusive cheating loser ass when I got my money up. I also got assaulted by his mistress and went through the whole legal issues with her. Yep.

        • RealitytvJunkie

          Sorry BB, no woman deserves that.

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    Here’s an idea Shannut …. why don’t YOU post the police report that supposedly exonerates you’re creepy (Beador-eyed) husband.

    • Evil Queen

      Kettle One is her co- pilot

    • Bad Barbie

      You have to go to the actual county’s site.

      • RHONJ Fan

        The police report is not on the county site. This is a DV case.

  • JustSayin

    I’ve seen a few comments about how Shannon doesn’t act like an abused spouse (not just on this thread) and I just wanted to say: I’ve known abused women who acted EXACTLY like Shannon, with the nitpicking and nagging and constant demeaning. It’s almost like they did it on purpose to see how far they could push their partner, particularly in public where they know their partner is more likely to feel pressured to behave.

    I don’t pretend to understand it, (I don’t understand anyone who stays with an abuser, particularly when children are involved) but I’ve seen it.

    • Marsbars09

      Thanks for sharing that JS. I feel regardless how Shannon behaves on TV she was and possibly still is a victim of DV.

    • sideof Sour Cream

      I’ve seen that as well and to me that’s not what I consider “beating the sh*t” out of someone domestic abuse. That’s part of a sick sex life/relationship–they get off on fighting and making up, and they especially do it front of children because the captive audience is part of the sick drama.

      • I think you nailed it.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          thanks romo.

      • JustSayin

        I’ve seen this behavior in women who got the shit kicked out of them, it wasn’t some kinky let’s fight and make up, it was more like nagnagnagNagNagNAGNAG – *gets the shit clocked out of them* – omg why wold you do this I love you so much I just want you to blah blah blah.

        Seriously, not proud of this, but my uncle was/is a woman beater. Not even wives, just girlfriends. And one of them…man, I stopped feeling sorry for that bitch because we’d HEAR him kick her ass, then it would settle down and he’d return to “public” (cuz he beat her ass in a back room) and be cool again…and then you’d hear her voice coming from the back room, talking more shit. And she’d keep going and going until he went back there and smacked her around again. Honestly I almost think it was some sick twisted need for his constant attention, even if it was bad attention…but I was too young to really understand or be involved other than as a witness.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          no one knows what is going on in a marriage except for the two people in that marriage. And you are correct JS, there are some masochistic people in this world, and some of them happen to be women.
          What I’m saying is, the Shannon Beador situation does not seem to be anything near a “Burning Bed” type of dynamic. (remember that movie?)
          I’m giving David a pass only because I cannot see Shannon putting up with actual physical abuse. It’s just a gut feeling.
          The “nag nag nag nag” until someone slaps you sideways? The sick need for attention? THAT is the “kink”.
          I witnessed it my entire childhood. I can spot it from a million miles away.

    • carrot

      Honestly, Shannon seems to feel she needs to control every aspect of David’s life. That seem more abuser behavior than victim. Women do abuse too.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      The comments about what an abusive woman should act like are ignorant. A lot of people don’t research and just make accusations that diminish DV.

      • SMDRN66

        I’ve dealt with victims of DV and child abuse for a long time. I know work in mental health. I think I’m pretty qualified to comment after 20+ years of experience.

    • RAW

      I realize that, I wasn’t trying to diagnose anyone.

      • JustSayin

        Never said you were…. O.o

    • SMDRN66

      You don’t generally see that behavior when the abuse is one-sided. Seeing Shannon in action with her nitpicking and belittling, I think she can give as good as she gets. People who live in fear of their abusive loved one will not poke that hornet’s nest with a stick.

      When we suspected DV, it was sometimes hard to get the abuser to leave the room. i wasn’t afraid about kicking him out, but I also didn’t want to make the situation worse for my patient either. I’d make up some stupid rule that I had to do my initial assessment alone, in addition to have the Duke police right in the doorway to make sure he went to the waiting room. Like with everything, there are different levels of abuse. But in all cases, handling the suspected abuser needs to be factored into the equation.

    • ReallyFedUp

      Right, I have seen it too. I have heard friends of the abuser say ‘I would have to beat her too, to live with her’. There are also men who have been charged with domestic abuse that have never hit a woman. Some people love to push buttons. My son was in a relationship and when it ended, I jump for joy. They fought constantly and she could push his buttons, a little push to get someone out of your face can end up with an arrest record. She was actually not a bad person, just had some emotional problems that she took out on him. Not every DV case is created equal. But for David to plea guilty, I think there had to be some evidence.

  • Jennymckitty

    I’m curious….has anyone read the police report? Has it been posted? Is it even possible to see it?

    • JustSayin

      I’ve wondered that too, the article about it here on AATT only references a police report they obtained but it doesn’t share the pdf doc.

      • Jennymckitty

        Thanks. It’s just when something like that is available, it makes things clearer.

    • Misty Prey

      It occurred in Orange County, CA, right? So likely it will be extremely difficult for someone to get a copy unless he/she was personally involved in the initial arrest. California has very tight privacy laws.

      • Jennymckitty

        Thanks.

  • HearWhatISay

    If you call the police and they arrive and you tell them my husband is screaming at me, they are not going to arrest him for battery!

    • Bad Barbie

      For real! lol Shanno is full of it. Too late. He was already booked for it.

      • HearWhatISay

        Plus the police roll up to their Mansion home they are not going to arrest some rich guy without evidence.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Seriously but every logical thinking person knows this.

      • Authentic

        RealityJunkie….. trust me there are a few dummies like me that believe everything they read based on temperate of person responding. I admit I know nothing about law and believe everything I Read here. Sorry! Quiet a few posters here where I trust everything they type.

    • SMDRN66

      It depends on the state. Some have automatic reporting. Let’s say you smack your husband and he comes after you. You call the police, and they will take him in. It will get straightened out later, but these laws were designed to create a cooling off period. Or it could have been Shannon thinking she was going to calm the situation down, called the police. They may have both denied physical contact, but she might have shown evidence of injuries. So the police took him in. I’m not making any excuses for them. I’ve just seen DV situations many times doing EMS and ER nursing. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard the old ‘falling down the stairs’ excuse. They want the abuse to stop, but they don’t want their ‘loved’ one arrested. It’s just really sad.

      • Bad Barbie

        People don’t know the process and definitions. Anyone can be “arrested” based on the cops judgement. (a joke at times) but for someone to get formally charged and prosecuted/offered a plea, you bet there was some evidence to make it a case. Perhaps David’s best case scenario was to take the plead. You have to understand, you are at trial… ALL your dirty laundry can come out. From experience, there’s more to this family than reality tv and court records are showing.

        Someone with millions of dollars to afford good defense doesn’t cop a plea if they are innocent. SHIT! GUILTY people dont take a plea. LOL

        • ReallyFedUp

          Exactly!

    • Authentic

      Don’t quote me but I think here in Texas if a domestic violence is called in someone HAS to go to jail. Guilty/evidence or not. Period. So I always wondered if David took bait to avoid Shannon going to jail. Again, I heard one must must be arrested, kinda like stop wasting our time on bs from police angle. I’m not familiar with CA law at all but if like Texas I can see a DV being called in, later dropped quickly.

      • ReallyFedUp

        Not necessarily, there has to be evidence of physical abuse. But it’s usually up to the police. It this was the case, it still doesn’t explain why David pled guilty Maybe he did beat Shannon and there are pictures. Is this why David stayed. If Shannon has pictures of the abuse, he can hang up getting any kind of joint custody of the kids. Sounds like she has him by the balls.

  • RAW

    There’s also a police report on Kelly, dv against her husband. Recent.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      That has nothing to do with this topic but nice try deflecting.

    • ReallyFedUp

      Different topic and we know, it happen while they were going through a divorce. No arrest, no conviction.

      • RAW

        But there was a restraining order.

  • the underground train

    “He admitted nothing ” but plead guilty? 😕

    • Marsbars09

      Hi underground! That’s what most of us are thinking.

    • RAW

      Yes, that is actually a plea. Nolo contendre I think its called.

    • Why is this happening to us?

      If he supposedly didn’t do anything to her, why would he take a plea? Was he afraid that if it went to trial, the evidence would show otherwise and a jury would convict him? Hmm….makes me wonder….

      • ReallyFedUp

        Or, if he did nothing to her, why did she call the police. That’s as bad as faking cancer in my book. Either way, she looks like an idiot.

        • Why is this happening to us?

          I agree. Unfortunately, this happens all the time. One spouse abuses the other, the other calls the police and then all of a sudden they don’t want to press charges and they say nothing happened. I have a feeling she didn’t want to go through with the charges because it would ruin his reputation and his business. I guess it didnt really matter whether she wanted to press charges or not because the state of CA brought him up on charges (I guess in CA, they don’t need the victim to press charges). I think this is why he took a plea. He knew he didn’t have a shot in hell of going up against the city/state with this case.

    • Authentic

      Money.

  • Bad Barbie

    Where is Meghan and her Google PI degree? That report should be easy to find in y’all really care…. also, people press charges and to get convicted you must be found guilty based on evidence so Shannon is full of nonsense. She lied. #LIARFACE

    I think when people are so busy trying to expose others when is none of their damn business is because they don’t want the attention on their issues. The more you occupy the squad searching for Vicky’s dirt, the less they will look at your drama. Shannon was having all that infidelity scandal so it was convenient to make it all about Brooks lies. In all reality, Brook was not a storyline on the show, they made it by focusing every goddamn episode on it. The same this season, Shannon again trying to put Kelly’s relationship on the microscope since the 70’s party.

    Shannon is probably terrified that this will come to light because David is most likely going to take it out on her. They have a business that can be hurt if this was exposed but they didn’t think that when they went on National TV. Don’t give me the shit about the kids… In all reality, the kids a can just simply google search their non-famous parents name and find out any information they want. It costs $59.99 to do a background check on someone.

    • Evil Queen

      Shannunt is the agressor in that relationship. Anyone, who doesn’t see that needs to have their eyes examined.
      Shannunt will drive the Pope to bitch smack her.

      • Marsbars09

        Oh EQ…

      • Bad Barbie

        I can see what you are saying but I can see David being passive aggressive.

      • Authentic

        Agree Evil Queen!

      • ReallyFedUp

        Well, calling the police on your husband if he really didn’t hit you is very aggressive. The ultimate control move. I know if my daughter-in-law did that to my son, I would not like her either.

    • HearWhatISay

      But this information came out the first season she was on the show. At least it was all over the internet, but not mentioned on the show.

      • Marsbars09

        I didn’t hear about it until AATT published a thread on it.

        • HearWhatISay

          If you google David Beador arrested there are many articles

      • Bad Barbie

        Yes, back in 2014 it was actually reported here. Shannon watered it down with the same excuses she is giving now. I want to say there is more to it than they realized can potentially come out if they stay on TV

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I could not agree more. All the emphasis on Brooks’ cancer lie was to take the heat off their own messy lives. If this was a lie like Shannon claims, her buddy Inspector Gadget Meghan would have busted Vicki on the alleged “lie” long ago.

      • Bad Barbie

        The same with Heather… she stays another season, watch all the dirt on her.

    • Hey boo! Miss you….hope you’re feeling better. xo

    • ReallyFedUp

      IMO, they had nothing last season. The only other storyline was Shannon’s awkward marriage counseling. Filming was so boring, Bravo approach Brooks and offer him a big bucket of money to fake cancer. Maybe Brooks really does have cancer and he really needed the money so he allow Brave to exploit his situation. No one has really came out and said he does or he doesn’t. He just ran off to Florida never to be heard from again. Vickie said that Brooks signed a Iron Clad non-disclosure agreement, why would he do that if he wasn’t getting paid by Bravo. Maybe Shannon is mad at Vickie because she mess up her storyline last year, Shannon was supposed to be the star. Maybe that’s why Bravo gave Shannon so much air time this year (kids concert, vow renewal, etc.). Either way, Shannon’s only storyline is her relationship with Vickie, which I’m truly sick of hearing Shannon talk about. It’s like she is obsessed with Vickie.

  • HearWhatISay

    I also thought that Shannon and David were fighting because Shannon found out he was cheating in 2003. I also think that David has had a few affairs. When Vickie told David he was not a good guy I believe her.

    • Marsbars09

      Shannon should have left David a long time ago. It’s not worth the heartache & trauma especially for their daughters.

      • SMDRN66

        It’s very sad because a lot of women stay in abusive relationships. There is something broken inside them. Some how, the abuser can turn things around to have the victim blaming herself. Shannon obviously has mental health issues. I’m not saying that to be mean. She’s an anxious bundle of nerves. She takes her holistic approach way beyond a normal person. As an RN, I have never once gave myself an enema to get rid of bloating because I ate an orange. Maybe there were problems and it escalated to violence that one time. I could even believe both were drunk. You can see that she’s not afraid of him. Maybe he did get help and they decided to stay together.

        When they came on the show, I found her to be very condescending and belittling to David. Always correcting him in front of the girls and guests. He couldn’t seem to do anything right. Generally, victims of continued abuse don’t try to piss off their abusive spouse. This whole thing wasn’t a secret anyway. When news of ‘the affair’ came out, the Meghan-like investigators reported this conviction at that time. I don’t care if you like Shannon or not, that was a shitty thing to say on camera. How does Kelly know if there is still abuse going on or not? She could have put Shannon, or her girls, in a very dangerous position.

        • Bad Barbie

          Shannon wants a “Perfect” life and that is unrealistic so she does all the extra shit to keep up the front. All those holistics remedies ain’t going to fix her and David. She is so anti-toxins but lives toxic.

        • margaret

          I don’t care for Shannon much, but I feel this way too. The way Shannon acts around David has never given me a vibe or feeling that she fears him in any way. If anything, he seems to be a bit beat down (mentally) and subservient to her. I just don’t know about all of this?

        • Marsbars09

          Hi SMDRN! Shannon is no doubt a broken woman. I think she drinks a lot to cope with her hellacious marriage. I wonder if she has immediate family, like parents or siblings, she is close to. If I were one of Shannon’s family members I would most certainly convince her to leave David. It truly is a life or death situation. Not only of the possibility David can kill Shannon but Shannon’s health is at risk with the excessive drinking.

          • Indy

            Wow Mars. Not trying to start something, but all we really know for sure is there was a physical altercation 13 years ago. The rest all came from Vicki who is a proven liar. Yes Shannon drinks a lot, but so does Heather, Tamra, Vicki and Kelly! I don’t really think she’s in danger of losing her life.

          • Marsbars09

            Hi Indy! I didn’t mean to sound extreme. I was just trying to make a general point of how serious DV is. It is a fact that the longer the victim stays in an abusive relationship the stronger the possibility it may end in a fatality (i.e. OJ and Nicole).
            And I don’t mean to pinpoint Shannon as the sole heavy drinker of the show. The thread is about Shannon and David, not the other women.

          • Indy

            Gotcha. I I agree domestic violence is extremely serious, but there is no proof that it is happening now. No harm, no foul. 👍

          • Kitty

            Maybe she was the one 13 years ago who abused David but he took the blame for her, hence her comments about “David did not touch me”… and she’s told Vicky when they were friends.
            Just guessing tho so hope not.

          • Authentic

            Right Indy! Furthermore Vicki’s hinted at a secret she knows on Shannon. We still don’t know that secret. Coincidentally Kelly blurted Vicki’s comments on bus sporadic (other?) stuff in her defense against those reality fame whores so the subjects changed to domestic violence??? Truthfully, I thought Vicki’s secret was Shannon had an affair too. And now posters commenting hubby could kill Shannon!?!?!? Really? Let’s ignore the chin hairs on the bus on Kelly’s defensive comments and focus on what does Vicki have a key to? So far we don’t know. Could be social media domestic violence topic, maybe not. I wish Vicki would speak vs being the OG! They are all reality thugs to me and getting us off track off in their favor.

          • Indy

            That is why this show is done. I feel completely manipulated with all of the storylines. I believe it is to deflect from Vicki’s lies from last season. Andy bought her a new friend and everyone is going down. Whether they deserve to or not. Meghan is the only smart one to leave this shitshow behind. They all suck! ☺️

          • Authentic

            Mars.. kill Shannon? Really? Shannon’s whole household tips around her and it shows. Shannon is a nutcase and seems to threaten old, obsolete info to appear on camera in her favorite to her family. Sorry! Don’t agree with you but respect your input. That’s what makes these discussions great. Respect.

          • Marsbars09

            From the way you started out your comment I thought you were going to come after my throat, but I’m glad you ended it on a respectful note.

          • Authentic

            Mars…Can’t tell from my cheap cell if you’re replying to me but sorry if it appeared like I was comming for your throat! But you brought up a great point; Shannon’s biological family. Never thought about that, Shannon only comments on her hubby’s family! Thank you. WTheF is Shannon’s family?

          • Marsbars09

            No worries honey! 🙂
            I would like to know where Shannon’s family is. Shannon grew up in Rancho Santa Fe and married David there as well. I also noticed Shannon’s immediate family were not in attendance at her vow renewal ceremony.

          • Authentic

            Hmm. Someone mentions below she was married below. You aware?

        • Authentic

          Aaagghhhh SMDRN66…. I loved your post until you brought in Kelly. Actually I agree with you 100%! Curious. What should Kelly have done to take these sick, drunk menopausal women off her ass? Personally I can only take so much and if I notice not even my confident friend on my side I’m bringing out wild cards. If sober and I recognize an ambush on me? Every bitch going down! Hard! I haven’t been in that situation before but glad Kelly turned this franchise around! Kelly dealing with some sick reality fame whores and FINALLY turned that shit around! Luv it! Now, all you read is where these sick reality fame whores bowing down to Kelly’s words, contradicting their actions!. Bravo!!! F these wanna be red carpet pill popping reality stars. We know Kelly is a drunk and using this show against her husband in her favorite settings (this time) so maybe she’ll win in next divorce proceedings. We did NOT expect Shannon, Heather and Tamra to provoke ALCOHOL POISONING on Kelly. Everything documented in Kelly’s favor! So! Again, I ask..how should Kelly have handled? Luv’d’ your post.. you said everything I was thinking (almost). But I think Shannon is a POS! Her husband acts like he’s afraid to speak! Her children act afraid as well… Like Shannon will bring up something almost 20 years ago so they abide by Shannon’s rules. I find Shannon sick and it showed on bus. Bitch!! I don’t approve of her embarrassing her children with that BORING affair storyline. They seem like really good kids and should not have been introduced to reality TV like that. If Shannon has any dignity, while FB commenting and she calling them MORONS, she will leave the show! Girl bye! Shannon, please don’t make next season about your fake DV 100 years ago. Go away Shannon!

    • Mary Saillant Endres

      omg that is the pot calling the kettle black! Vicki is NOT A GOOD PERSON!

  • Snarky gal

    Listen I in no way condone David hitting Shannon but if I had to live w that bitch … let’s just say I understand the compulsion to shut her the f up 😅

    • Bad Barbie

      lol I cant deal

    • RealitytvJunkie

      POW…..SMASH….BAM! 😅

    • ReallyFedUp

      Shannon says David never hit her but had him arrested anyway. Can you convict someone with Domestic Violence with no evidence. Why would anyone plead guilty to a charge with no evidence and have the money to fight it. Why call the police and allow their husband to plead guilty to this charge if no abuse happened. Either Shannon lied to the police or Shannon is lying about the abuse. Either way she is a ‘Liar Face’.

  • Bad Barbie

    BTW the OC court sites are not that “Private”. I’m sleep though.

    • RHONJ Fan

      The state of California has extreme privacy laws.

      • ReallyFedUp

        Really, I can go online and look up anyone’s arrest and conviction records in Texas. I can even print out my divorce documents.

    • Why is this happening to us?

      I didn’t know that about Briana’s husband. That’s scary.

      • Authentic

        Not surprised. Remember how he treated that HW’s mother for putting her tired feet on a sofa at a party Vicki hosted? Can’t remember her name, she lasted one season. Ridiculous! He acted like his little government money paid all the bills in Vicki’s house! And they were living rent free. I’ve always sensed Brianna was afraid of him.

        • Why is this happening to us?

          Yes I remember that. I can’t think of her name either, but I know whose mother you are talking about- the stoner. Lol.
          I’m pretty sure Ryan got a medical leave from the service for his bad back. Looks like he will have to get a real job now to help pay the bills. Briana can’t be the only one working when they have a house and 2 kids to worry about. Maybe Vicky will hire him to work for her insurance scam…er…I mean company. 😉

  • Domestic Abuse is no laughing matter. Aiding the victim to hide the abuse is not helping nor supporting her. The more exposure this issue gets, the more courage Shannon will muster to eventually leave. David is an evil, selfish, insecure man that has ruined Shannon’s life and his girls. His violent, abusive, cheating ways has turned Shannon into a raging alcoholic as a coping mechanism for her pain, which in turn poisons her entire family, especially the girls. Those poor children have seen their mother in nasty drunken stupors and I’m sure she’s violent towards them as well. Most alcoholics project their anger on others, generally those closest to them. This whole situation is sad beyond belief.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Well said Doc.

    • Marsbars09

      Great commentary Doc.

    • Authentic

      Agree with everything you said regarding Domestic Abuse. Do you agree Shannon should focus on herself before everyone else? There’s one common denominator here and she’s shown her few colors. Shannon is an acholic. That’s the 1st correction.

      • Absolutely. Shannon’s drinking is common byproduct of abuse. If she’s drunk she doesn’t feel anything. I hope for her kid’s sake, she seeks therapy and learns her worth.

        • Authentic

          I do too Seuss!

        • Mary Saillant Endres

          Soyou are saying drinking is a common byproduct of abuse, does that mean that Vicki is abused? that Kelly is abused? they are also dringing all the time

          • JustSayin

            Drinking actually is a common byproduct of abuse. Drink, drugs, whatever helps you escape your reality. Drinking is probably the more common one because liquor is legal and readily available.

            Drinking is also a common byproduct of alcoholism, lol, so I don’t think we should assume everyone who drinks is being abused. Just the ones with a history of DV and glaring marital problems….lol I kid.

  • RAW

    There is a plea called nolo contendre. It’s taken before investigation. That must he it.

    • JustSayin

      It says he plead guilty, not no contest. They are two different pleas and even though they have the same effect legally, court documents would differentiate between the two.

      • RAW

        It means you don’t want to fight the charges, it is, technically, a guilty plea.

        • JustSayin

          I understand that, I’m saying that it is a completely different plea and when people report on it, they will say “so-and-so plead no contest to blah blah blah”. They don’t say someone plead guilty when they plead no contest, even though the result is the same, because it is not the same plea.

          Of course there is the factor of human error. If the court documents say he plead no contest, then whoever reported that he plead “guilty” was mistaken. Because (one last time lol) even though the result is the same, they are not the same thing.

          • Authentic

            Thx JustSaYin and RAW. Really learned a lot providing small details. Guess it provides on State as well?

  • Ann

    That loud screaming Shannon was making at that contest for Tamara was awful.

    • Authentic

      Shannon was probably drunk. She probably doesn’t remember that black out.

      • ReallyFedUp

        She did the same thing at her kids concert, she a mess.

  • Dayle Hudson

    Vicky could never be a friend to anyone. I can’t. Believe bravo is letting her come back along with her mini me kelly. Shannon told Vicky. Vicky told kelly. Kelly told everyone.

    • Indy

      Yep. 👏👏👏

    • Authentic

      Vicki is an OG and she knows that label. No existing castmate can replace her status and Vicki knows this. Any other have original players from 1st Real HouseWife franchise? Nope. Vicki knows this and will use to her advantage. Sick but true. The current explosion revolves around Vicki’s gossip….Vicki jumping in to correct opposing views? Nope.

      • Beach Blonde

        Vicki isn’t “just” any old “HW OG”: her son Michael was the one with the HW idea and Vicki co-opted it….made it all about herself as usual….and her pathological neediness & narcissism just made excellent (Bravo) TV.

        Vicki knows this. Her contract is different. And she can “pretty much” do what she wants. A totally different scenario from Bethenny, who was considered a nobody with great networking contacts in the beginning and made herself a “must-see” snide sniper on the sidelines/relatable Greek Chorus character over the first season. Once she made crazy 1%-er money and left, Andy coaxed her back to boost failing ratings on RHONY and it was *not* M.O.N.E.Y. that was the carrot. Bethenny doesn’t need any more – she was offered power. And it still went sour.

        Vicki didn’t just lucky, imo she stole from her son….and is living off HIS brilliant idea. If she was a mother who loved her kids more than she loves herself (or even half as much!), she would have negotiated Michael into a well-deserved and earned Exec Producer’s Credit on RHOC in perpetuity at the bare minimum. In fact, he should have been running it, not Andy. Maybe directly under Andy, but definitely running RHOC totally and really at least producing all the spinoffs from the original OC.

        But no…..Vicki took it over and made it all about HER. Just like Brianna describes in her talking heads.

        I cannot imagine what it must be like to be Michael & Brianna and have VICKI as a mother. No nurturing. No real love. No caring about them/their feelings ir problems. Just selfishness, manipulation, lies, and “dirty fighting” according to Brianna.

        How horrible!

  • Indy

    Strange that some posters who sympathize with poor Vicki being a “victim” of Brooks lies are so quick to assume Shannon is getting the shit beaten out of her every day and is a raging alcoholic. 😏

    • Hmmmm……very interesting post. There is no assumption that Shannon has a drinking problem, it’s as obvious as Eddie being gay.

      • Indy

        Drinking problems are a pandemic throughout all the HW shows. I think it might be a requirement! 😂 Being an alcoholic is a little different. Hurtful to the kids if not true. Eddie gay? I haven’t a clue. If he is, WTH is he doing with Tamrat? If not, it’s cruel and uncalled for. I’ll leave that to the “experts”! 😂

        • Eddie being gay is a rumor that started years ago….where there’s smoke, there is fire.

          • Indy

            I’ve heard it. Why isn’t he out? Of all the women to pick for a beard, why Tamra? Yuk! And exhausting having to deal with her drama. 🙄

          • I agree totally. Tamra has money, fame and gave him a gym. And is a willing participant.

          • Indy

            Geez. He’s a good looking guy. He could find a dude to give him all that and not have to deal with all the trashy family. Oh well. If he is I hope he comes out and enjoys his life finally.

          • Authentic

            But what dude will put him on a hot reality tv show in OC…. Eddie is just fishy to me.

          • Indy

            IDK. I’ve never seen it myself, but what do I know? 😂

          • ReallyFedUp

            Maybe he is just Bi-sexual. It seems to be a thing these days, they say you fall in love with the person, not the gender.

          • Indy

            Maybe. I just think it’s hurtful and tawdry to bring it up on the show. Is he really hurting anyone?

          • Authentic

            Right TV??
            Not hurting me. Still hithink he’s gay

          • Authentic

            I always try to imagine my hubby in a childish bubble fath for TV. No go.

          • Authentic

            Ratings.

          • Indy

            So he married a woman and stays with her even though he’s gay because of ratings? Hmm… Maybe, but I don’t think so. 😏

          • JustSayin

            Maybe “back in the day” I wouldn’t believe it, you know, back when divorce was less acceptable and people had to make marriages work. But these days…I completely believe someone would get married for a chance to be on TV and make money. Isn’t that like the basis of the show The Bachelor? lol

            Seriously though, people get married for green cards, for benefits, to maintain an image, etc. I dunno why Eddie is with Tamra, but love is like the last suspect on my list lol

          • Indy

            How much do you think he makes for this show? 50k? The real problem is if people are that easily influenced by a little money and “fame” that they would live a lie, something is really wrong with our society. I know a lot of people are convinced he is, but it sure seems like a very high price to pay for 15 minutes on a stupid show like this. These people can’t ever get the stink off of them.

          • JustSayin

            People ARE that easily influenced by fame and money, and it’s one of the ugliest things about our society. I mean just look at the Kardashians, the fact that they are the celebrities they are, that they are paid millions to be on TV and to appear at clubs or whatever – for WHAT? Because they possess some great talent? Fuck no! Because they’re rich and “famous for being famous” because of their last name and a sex tape. That says it all right there, that shows what we as a society value and it’s fucking embarrassing.

            Of course not all of us value those things, but “the masses” do. We have a generation that is more concerned with being famous by any means necessary than with actually doing something WORTHY of being famous for, and it’s sad and it scares me.

          • Indy

            The Kartrashians were the first thing that came to mind when I was typing, but they do make millions for some inexplicable reason, Eddie doesn’t. I don’t know. The whole thing is strange. I hope he didn’t sell his soul for a small pittance.

          • I have always thought he was likely bi-sexual. shrug.

            Didn’t Tamra make out with a woman in the bathroom on the show? After day drinking? I think she was an FOH.

            Whatever suits him. I don’t care. The issue for me is that Tamra cares. And that’s sad for Eddie.

          • Indy

            😂😂. I don’t remember that. I’m just tired of seeing the dark personal histories of these people. Reminds me of Lu. It’s off putting and not entertaining. Whether Eddie is gay or not makes no difference to me. It’s hurtful and gauche for him to have millions speculating. The same with Shannon’s problems. These shows took an ugly turn and I don’t think there’s any way to “right the ship” at this point. Awkward and uncomfortable to watch.

          • Mary Saillant Endres

            Probably started by Vicki

          • Authentic

            I’ve always thought Eddie was gay! That gay bathtub scene was too much for me. What straight man dating a married woman goes on tv in a bubble bath where women swoon over him? A gay man.

      • Authentic

        Truthfully I thought thoughtfully is gay he 1st time he appeared on OC. Still can’t ignore that bubble bath shit on tv. I compare everything to my hubby. Shannon has always given me she’s a drunk Christian.

    • Authentic

      You got that wrong. Try again.

      • Indy

        ??

    • All About The Tea

      😕 Wow.

    • JustSayin

      Doesn’t seem strange to me…there’s no proof that Vicki was in on Brooks’ scam, just a bunch of viewers who have decided she HAD to know because how couldn’t she? Meanwhile, David pled guilty to battery and Shannon loves vodka so much it became a joke her very first season…

      Not saying either side is right, but I feel like one side has more concrete evidence to support their theory.

      • Indy

        I know there is an arrest record. No denying that. It happened. I also SAW and HEARD Vicki lie about Terri and the middle of the night IV and the binder with all the “proof”. Both guilty of lying IMO. 😏

        • JustSayin

          Lying isn’t the same as knowing he doesn’t have cancer.

          • Indy

            So you really think she lived with him and didn’t know he didn’t have cancer?

          • JustSayin

            Yes, because she didn’t WANT to know. When Briana told her he hit on her and said disgusting things to her, and Vick refused to believe, that said a LOT to me about Vicki’s state of mind. She wanted love so bad she was willing to put in blinders for that man. Women have willfully overlooked a lot WORSE things.

            Should she have known? Yes. But I think she put her energy into not knowing, which might make her complicit through her inactivity…but I don’t believe she was actively involved like “You’ll say you have cancer, and then I’ll say this”. I think he said he had cancer, and she didn’t ask questions.

          • Indy

            I believe your scenario actually did happen at the beginning, but after awhile you cannot ignore all the red flags just to have your love tank filled. It had to have become clear he didn’t have it. I do believe she knew after awhile. What she did to Brianna was awful. That should have been it. Eventually though, Vicki’s silence made her complicit. Then her made up stories made her guilty. Just my opinion. It’s all good. It’s just curious how people see some things so different. Kinda like Hillary/Trump. 😬

          • ReallyFedUp

            Vickie did admit at the reunion that she eventually suspected he might be lying. But seriously, in the beginning when someone you love saids they have cancer, you initial response is not to suspect they’re lying.

          • Indy

            Exactly. There was no reason to doubt him at the beginning. Who would? As time passed, it had to have been crystal clear he didn’t have it. I don’t believe Vicki had Stockholm syndrome either. She made a choice to lie about the call to Terri regarding the late night IV and she made a choice not to believe Brianna. She did admit her guilt at the reunion, but then backed up and doubled down.

          • Kitty

            Just gotta add that didn’t Vicky say at the beginning of this season that she STILL wanted to continue the relationship with Brooks, but he was actually the one who ended it…. Says quite a lot of Vicky. 🙄

          • JustSayin

            I can agree with that, like I said, I just don’t think she was actively in on the scam, like planned it or implemented it. Guilty if lying to cover for Brooks, yes. Guilty of burying her head in the sand, definitely. I just don’t think her involvement is as deep as some seem to believe.

          • Indy

            Agree. I don’t think they sat down and planned it. Good conversation!

          • JustSayin

            I enjoyed it as well! Thanks for some good back and forth without any drama =)

          • Indy

            Your welcome and thank you too!

          • ReallyFedUp

            Yep, love is blind!

          • Mary Saillant Endres

            She knew all along that Brooks didnt have cancer and you or no one else can convince me otherwise

          • ReallyFedUp

            Where’s the proof, you can’t prove it, I go on facts not assumptions. It’s not like Vickie was the one who pretended to have cancer, and we really have no proof Brooks doesn’t have cancer. They really left us all hanging on this storyline.

          • Indy

            The hospital sent a statement saying he was never treated there and Brooks admitted he “doctored” lab reports.

          • Authentic

            So true ReallyfedUp and Indy! I’m still on waiting on Vicki’s storyline she has this special key regardless of Social Media’s focus on domestic violence where we have key. Hopefully explained during reunion. Otherwise, taking comments with a grain of salt. I still say Shannon is a POS! I’m stuck on Shannon’s actual response on bus… she’s a POS! I witnessed that with my eyes.

          • JustSayin

            That’s cool, I’m not concerned with convincing you.

        • They both lied. Clearly.

          But here’s the difference: Shannon is lying about domestic violence. And the stakes are not financial, we are talking about a problem that results in deaths.

          And Shannon’s marriage is clearly troubled. David has demons that are an ongoing problem. And Shannon has issues as well. He has been verbally aggressive on camera not just with Vicki, but with Heather as well. And Shannon drinks excessively, and acts irrationally. Her lies are irrational.

          For the sake of those lovely girls, this couple should not be allowed to whitewash this kind of history, and lie about it and continue on a reality show. The writing is on the wall. What is it going to take? How soon we have forgotten Russell Armstrong.

          • Indy

            I don’t know. I see your point, but I’m not convinced their relationship is abusive now. I don’t see any proof that Shannon is being mistreated now. Perhaps we will never know. I also thought Vicki was trying to provoke him. I guess we will see how it all shakes out. For the sake of the kids, I hope their relationship is healthy.

          • I don’t think we can say one way or another whether the incident was isolated or if the abuse is ongoing. We see what Shannon and David allow us to see. And clearly, Shannon has gone above and beyond to omit this history.

            But let’s be real: David may not beat her, but he is emotionally abusive. Think about his conduct since he began filming: humiliating her with an affair, taking his GF to meet his family, the wedding ring returned by his child, telling her details like he left her on her birthday to go have sex with the GF. He is a complete asshole. Combine it with his history of domestic violence, and I am really worried about Shannon. This is not a healthy relationship. Given his history — I would not give him the benefit of the doubt. He doesn’t deserve it.

            And Bravo has no business being complicit in a whitewash of a clearly messed up situation, that involved violence, with gorgeous children involved. This has tragedy written all over it.

          • Indy

            I’m not defending his behavior at all, but I do hope they have moved past the betrayal. I don’t know. Glass half full?

          • Given the new context, I’m not so sure if they have moved past it and resolved the underlying source of David’s destructive behavior. Why does he become abusive? I mean — given his history, I think it fair to assume that this is a pattern. The way it looks from afar is: He stuffs his emotions and then acts out in abusive ways to ventilate. She drinks, complains, becomes overwhelmed with anxiety, and becomes angry and bitter at the situation. He has periods of contrition, tries to make amends, caters to her, but ultimately gets fed up, and the same pattern repeats.

            It seems that the “therapy” they received, and the focus of the “healing” was on Shannon’s ability to forgive.

            Yeah, forgiveness is huge. But to prevent future actions, don’t you think more time should have been spend analyzing the why? The overly simplistic, Shannon-oriented way they presented the resolution of these horribly disrespectful actions was somewhat intellectually insulting. Fake funeral, and David nearly begging for forgiveness, her counting the times she thought about it. Decent therapy isn’t so one-sided. And if that was actually how they “moved past it” I call BS.

            What emotions drove the deceit, the selfishness, the lack of respect? How have those issues been resolved? Has David learned to express himself without resorting to destructive behavior?

          • Indy

            I don’t know. I guess I would agree if there was any proof of abuse in the Thirteen years since the incident. Aside from the cheating that is. Two horrible behaviors but not necessarily related IMO.

          • In my opinion, David’s affair was emotional abuse. And this time, he hurt his children as well.

            Whether is it physical or emotional, abuse is abuse. It’s all related IMO. He’s the same guy. Hurting the same person.

          • Indy

            Perhaps you’re right. I hope not. “Shrugs”!

          • Good insight Indy. As always.

            I really like Shannon. I want her to be happy. Honestly, I was so pissed that David left her. And she was so upset about it! After what he had done! UGH! It’s just frustrating for viewers to see that kind of weakness. She should have kicked his lying, cheating, selfish, dumb ass straight to the curb. I’m a pragmatic person, not prone to big displays even when I am mad — but honey — a year long affair with my friend? He’s “in love.” Oh hell no. I’d be assembling a bonfire of my husband’s belongings on our driveway.

            I hope Shannon realizes how awesome her life can be without always being the bad guy, the downer, etc. Here’s to Shannon! 🙂

          • Indy
          • Dushio gregio

            It wasn’t with a friend of hers. Again maybe stick to facts?

          • Dushio gregio

            She tends to see things that aren’t there. In all her comments even on other sites. Now she says he overwhelmed with anxiety? Now shes going to tell us he abuses his kids.

          • Dushio gregio

            Tragedy? I find myself smh at all of your comments.

          • terra941

            I think Shannon could crack. I think David is capable of much more than we may thinks. He is mean.

          • Indy

            As far as Taylor, I’m convinced it will happen again. Andy is ramping things up every season. There is a fatal tragedy in the future. I’ve thought that for a long time. ☹️️

          • A Ole Grandma

            Gawd David must have serious issues with a mother like he has. She is obviously very sick in the head to behave like she does on TV and with no shut off valve. I would not have let her near my wife and children and still would NOT. She is a t oxic woman and I would like to know why.

          • terra941

            Yeah.. David has issues with “strong women.” That is easy to see.

          • Dushio gregio

            She can lie if she wants to and who are you to say people with domestic violence backgrounds shouldn’t be on tv? Russell didn’t commit suicide because he was on tv.

      • Dushio gregio

        Ridiculous. He faked cancer with three other women before her. We all knew it your telling me Vicki didn’t? I bet it was her idea, she wanted people to like him and her plan to sell snake oil Club Detox at $8 per bottle needed 3xdaily. Vicki will do anything for money and to be liked even if it’s for people to feel sorry and bring casseroles.

        • JustSayin

          I didn’t know that, so to say “we all knew it” is false.

    • A Ole Grandma

      Tough crowd with grandiose imaginations @Indy.

    • terra941

      I agree, Shannon’s husband appears passive aggressive to me. I realize Shannon gets way too emotional, but she is going through menopause has three teenage girls and a buff hunk who has had one known affair… and a spouse abuse arrest in his past. I think he is “gas lighting” her. Also, Shannon herself keeps the “he does not beat me” thing going. I think she does protest too much. She may be mentioning the physical abuse to warn him not to abuse her or she will out him. He has not held her hand for over six months… she outed him on that. Witholding affection is emotional abuse. She will dump him when she thinks the girls can take it.

  • Beach Blonde

    I don’t understand any of the people defending Vicki Gunvalson – rolling in the dirt with others over the question of “did she or didn’t she know Brooks was lying about cancer”.

    The bottom line is VICKI HERSELF **ADMITTED** a STRING of LIES and a PATTERN & HABIT of CONTINUOUS LYING throughout her relationship with Brooks. She ADMITTED lying. No debate. No question.

    Therefore, VICKI IS AN UNREPENTANT **LIAR**. An unrepentant, degenerate liar in general and absolutely about Brooks, Brooks’ (Faked) Cancer, and an extensive laundry list of lies including things Vicki “SWORE” (at the time) she did and things she “SWORE” took place, but that Vicki later ADMITTED SHE MADE UP, WHOLE CLOTH (with not even a grain of truth in them) after she was caught & exposed.

    WHY are any of you forgetting that? Why would anyone even argue the IRRELEVANT side issue of what Vicki knew or didn’t know about Brooks (imo, it’s obvious she knew – or she’s the stupidest, most naive, ignorant, & unobservant woman on the planet) because VICKI IS A PROVEN & *ADMITTED* LIAR, both overall in life and in everything to do with Brooks’ faked cancer.

    ** Vicki lied (caught/exposed & finally admitted lying) about Brooks becoming so ill in the middle of the night that she had to call her both her daughter and Terry Dubrow.

    ** Vicki lied (caught/exposed & finally admitted lying) about Terry Dubrow coming over in the middle of the night & giving Brooks an IV/IV fluid hydration.

    These above are just rwo examples of the STRING OF LIES Vicki told because she “wanted sympathy & a casserole” (no joke – Vicki said that, repeatedly).

    ** Vicki lied about going to the hospital and WATCHING Brooks being given IV Chemo treatments.

    ** Vicki lied about being IN THE EXAM ROOM with Brooks for his ONCOLOGY appts, evals, exams, tests, & treatments.

    ** Vicki lied about HAVING SEEN & READ *ALL* of Brooks’ Medical Records.

    ** Vicki lied about taking those same records & putting them in a “special binder” she created just for him….with ALL HIS detailed RECORDS tabbed, collated, and perfectly put in order so they could BOTH refer to them easily (which later, she uses as an excuse by saying the OPPOSITE, that Brooks refused to allow her access to his records).

    ** Vicki lied about having all Brooks’ PRESCRIPTION meds at her house, sitting on the counter, and that she helped him take them, keep up with them, manage them, (I think she also said she helped to pick them up at the pharmacy but on that one I’m not entirely positive), & so on. These alleged “Prescription Meds” were all OVER THE COUNTER – but they were *supplements* and NONE were PRESCRIPTION meds! NONE! You can see it for yourself plain as day right in the videos they aired last season.

    ** Vicki LIES AGAIN about Brooks in the scene with the “Cancer Insurance Reps” at the initial meeting in the conference room with her son Michael. In his disgust, Michael actually stops his mother and exposes her lying right in front of her and directly to the “Cancer Insurance” reps. (I forgot the name of their business & connected charity, so I’m calling it “cancer insurance”, sorry!) Vicki then backpedals, has to admit Michael is right, but changes the focus from HER lies by making excuses and talking about what BROOKS did wrong, not her.

    Vicki has ADMITTED Lying in All these situations/incidents — ADMITTED IT! Not only was ahe caught and exposed as a liar, she *admitted* she was!

    Vicki has lied MUCH more, and abiut so many things – and been caught – just not admitted it.

    It speaks VOLUMES that Vicki’s own daughter calls her a Liar and in last week’s talking head, Brianna went into detail about how Vicki LIES REGULARLY in order to gain sympathy, manipulate others, and generally get her own way. That Vicki does not care. Lies don’t matter to her. Hurting others doesn’t matter. And basically Brianna talks about what a nasty, despicable person Vicki is…..and this is her own DAUGHTER who loves her!

    So, WHY is anyone arguing about minutiae and splitting hairs about what Vicki knew and when?

    >>> VICKI IS A PROVEN & ADMITTED **LIAR** …..particularly where Brooks and his cancer are concerned.

    I could write six more pages just listing the lies Vicki has told on RHOC that have been exposed/proven…..like her lies about when she met Brooks & how long they’d been together (she cheated on Don with Brooks for a very long time & met & started an affair with Brooks a minimum of 1-2 years prior to the time Vicki kept telling people on RHOC that they’d even met). And so much more. Just lies and lies and LIES! NO QUESTION ABOUT IT – Vicki has told you HERSELF that she’s a liar…..yet you’re still arguing about whether or not she’s lying about Brooks….COME ON!

    **and my apologies for using CAPS. There’s no “bold” or “underline” so I had to use Caps & asterisks. I’m not “yelling”. Well,….I am at the very end! LoL

    Ugh…..I feel better now that I got all that out.

    Vicki Gunvalson drives me NUTS!

    • Indy

      Standing Ovation Beach Blonde! 👏👏👏

      • Beach Blonde

        Wow – thank you!!

        • terra941

          OMG… now I have to learn coding just to comment on Housewives…this is getting to be toooooo hard. lol

    • JustSayin

      I think the real question is why do you care so much what anyone else thinks on the subject?

      By the way, it IS possible to use bold, italics, and underline. Use the html tags.

      • Beach Blonde

        There are no html tags in my browser/app so….you cannot use what isn’t there.

        But thank you anyway for caring so much. 🙂

    • I don’t think anyone denies that Vicki lied about the Brooks debacle. That’s kind of a given. I’m not a Vicki fan or advocate. I view her as the “villain.” No rose colored glasses here.

      But Vicki doesn’t have anything to do with Shannon lying about domestic violence. Per this article, and many others, David pleaded guilty to two counts of battery and said in open court, probably under oath that he “willfully and intentionally used force and violence” against Shannon.

      Shannon chose to lie about this in interviews. She said nothing happened, it was just an argument. Well, not according to the records. And now she is continuing to lie. Why is that Vicki’s fault?

      The bottom line: Couples with a history of domestic violence should not be on reality shows. Did we learn nothing from Taylor and Russell Armstrong? Children are involved. This is not entertainment. Bravo needs to vet its cast to screen these people out.

      • Beach Blonde

        I was just replying to all the “Vicki was duped by Brooks – she never lied” comments.

        You are absolutely right – Shannon’s issues are separate.

        I got so wrapped up in just giving the *highlights* of Vicki’s Lies that I never addressed my point about Shannon’s issues being completely separate from Vicki & hers…..and that Shannon lying about abuse *does NOT* make Vicki no longer a “Lying Liar” (to use a Real Housewives term).

        Thank you for adding that 🙂

        • You are right. 🙂 Great post BTW.

          • Beach Blonde

            Thanks! Yours too 🙂

          • Jenny Redding

            I think Shannon needs to spend sometime on Shannon. She lives in California where all the pretty people live. Shannon is a pretty lady now lose weight and dress better. David is a hunk. Handsome and sexy. Sexiness is an attitude. At least you are real compared to all the other plastic women on there. Heather was the worst. Vickie is a plastic face and Tamera is a frozen face.

      • A Ole Grandma

        Vicki has everything to do with everyone and anything they shared with her during their friendship. You can almost see her salivate when someone tells her super secrets about their life because she knows that if that person turns on her in anyway or even BEFORE, she will spread it all out there for everyone to see and hear!!
        That is why Vicki is in the forefront of everything mean, gossipy, jealousy, bitchy on the show because she makes an effort to “love” her bf’s, get the low down, makes it bigger then it is, and then waits for the perfect time to tell someone. With Tamra, big mouth, being the usual person to spread the stories to first they get around and back to the source of the bad gossip very fast,,,, ie #cellphonetextcall.
        Watch the show better before replying. 🙂

        • A Ole Grandma

          “David pleaded guilty to two counts of battery and said in open court, probably under oath that he “willfully and intentionally used force and violence” against Shannon.”
          @mitzyscorner:disqus ok, having studied law, saying this statement in court does NOT mean he physically beat her all over. Smashing her head, hitting her with fists or any of the other very violent things you are thinking.
          They can mean as little as holding her hand and squeezing it hard enough to keep her from saying, leaving the house, or hitting him, or grabbing the phone etc. Force and violence can mean the most minuscule contact. Its just the way it is given to the accused in admitting in court what he or she did, ie a “catch all phrase” to cover everyones butts. Thats all and no biggie. Almost the same thing is said by murderer’s

          • Jane Suppen

            WRONG – I guess “studied law” means you flunked out of law school.

            Admitted use of force AND VIOLENCE against a PERSON, cannot mean force against property (e.g. phone) or a minuscule touching. A “battery” could hypothetically mean a minuscule touching, but almost almost never is since a conviction would require the person to call the police and required allegations serious enough that charges would be pursued. Prosecutors do not have the time to waste prosecuting minuscule touchings. Regardless, the police report states that David admitted to getting physical with Shannon. The severity was evidently enough evidence to support a charge of unlawful use of force AND VIOLENCE upon a co-habitant. This is the textbook definition of Domestic Violence. However, you spin it, you cannot dismiss this as a misunderstanding or minuscule touching. Shannon’s reactions and evasions are also typical of a battered wife. Sounds like David got help and hopefully doesn’t do it anymore. (Although that incident where she got bruised and bloody sure sounds fishy. She “doesnt’ remember” where the bruises came from. Again a typical response from a battered wife. Sorry, I would never “not remember” how I got major bruises and bloody knees. Whatever is going on in the Beador’s marriage, it sounds like a mess.)

          • A Ole Grandma

            Sorry to discredit your assumptions Jane but no one flunked in this family.
            Now, you do not sound ignorant and a day in court would probably help you to understand what David “HAD” to say in court to “Plea out, or Plea Down” in his agreement with the DA’s to lower the charges and/or sentencing. Most of it is HOW the DA’s wants it to be said, written out in the Court Order. The bottom line is a little bit of nothing happened and its admitted by all parties, and all parties agree to it, even the Prosecutor’s thus the “Plea Offer”. If this man was a chronic “wife beater” they would not have even offered him a “Plea Out” if they had enough evidence to find him guilty by the jury with no reasonable doubt.
            Also remember everyone, that a wife does not have to press charges, or testify against her husband, the DA can do it all with physical evidence and witness testimony by others, officers, those on the scene.
            When someone “Plea’s Out, Down” and believes that “well this will just get it over for everyone and we can move on, and it wont ever come up again”, so signs thier name to the statement and off they go. Then like David and Shannon now, it comes up by an evil witch that had no reason to mention it other then to hurt Shannon, embarrass her. How many times have we seen Vicki hanging on David, and almost glaring at the two of them, Jealousy? Oh I betcha and a lot of it. She could still have a man like David, with DON, but no, she screwed that up too and lies, continues to lie where even her own Daughter doubts anything that comes out of her mouth or texts.
            I wanted to vomit seeing that little buggy roll over and all of these drama queens making the most of the comic relief seriously, disgusting and horrible actress’s. I have rolled in cars, big trucks, buggies, motorcycles, quads, three wheelers, and probably other things I do not remember, and NO ONE sends out all of these calls like that immediately letting everyone know. Advicing others to get to the hospital cause they are 5 minutes closer, and go to such extent in discribing a simple concussion! Hell, I just had a concusssion AGAIN back in Sept, with a fall and hit my forehead on the L shape on the house window. Sure, I got a concussion, and because on blood thinners, a few exrays make sure I was not bleeding anywhere, and off I went to have a hellacious headache for a week. But I was not Vicki curled up on a couch whining and moaning, and doing the “yes everyone come over and apoligize now for not racing to the hospital to see me”.!!! OMGOSH seriously? I would never let my husband, or anyone, or even me start calling people and telling them I was a tiny bit hurt in a accident with the buggy. Vicki, and still Tamra to some degree bring such drama, and instigation to every single conversation, and then keep it all going by bringing everyone into it.
            Gawd, and then bring the ding dong from Hell, raised by Satan himself, Kelly Dodd, and WOW, the show is not worth watching at all anymore. Its over its done for and that is the common feelings around Bravo land. The only other strong suggestion is that Brianna take on a large roll with her dealing with life with MS, her boys, her husband who is working for Vicki, and then having to deal with her mother also in a smaller part. Then still keep Meghan as that will be an i nteresting story to follow and her boredom and sadness over hardly being with her husband and with a new baby. Heather is not too bad and she kind of makes it funny sometimes, but everyone is so very tired of her self, and husband promotion, and how rich they are.
            I will be very surprised to see Vicki and Tamra back next season and Kelly Dodd is definitely gone because Bravo is scared of reprisals and someone getting hurt, and badly.
            Domestic laws are precarious at best, and so is the testimony used as evidence, and sometimes more so the who is lying or not lying for the other one. I have been on a case where the wife had actually done most of the physical injuring of the husband, and yet, the husband admitted to everything, got a “plea down”, and they walked out hand and hand, kssing and crying and she was about 8 month pregnant when it happened

            OH bruising, look it up on the internet a bit more. I get bruises every single day and do not know how I got them. They depend on a lot of things, anemic, just a propensity for them, thin skin, medications, etc. It is also most common that we do not know, nor do our children most of the time, remember where we get bruisesl. Any assumptions made about their supposed “fight” because she had bruises are just that, assumptions, to try to get a case on him or to have Vicki exploit it.
            We are all entitled to our opinions and when does not truly know any of these people all we can do is make assumptions and guess or we can see how someone talks, acts, to others and judge if we like them from there. Its a reality show, LOL.

          • Mcouts

            Guess he never learned to walk away. No matter what spin is put on it, he plead guilty so suffers the consequences. He lost whatever balls he had a long time ago; she’ll never let him forget it.

        • motherall

          She’s a treacherous pig with a big mouth and should have been fired after the Brooks fiasco

      • motherall

        Shannon explained she bruised herself trying to break into the room David locked himself in. When the police came they saw her bruises they arrested David for abuse. Whether he pled guilty for whatever reason, who knows. That’s been14 years ago. If Shannon was okay with ….it’s her story to omit.

  • WeCouldBeHeroes

    How did he not hit her if he was convicted of it?

  • Ann

    She trying to cover this up for her children! But Shannon, karmas a bitch so you don’t have to be remember.

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  • Heather Saliba

    But isn’t she on reality tv? Ummmmmmmm, if you want to protect your children from harm, get off REALITY TV!!!

  • marianne ribes

    She is covering it up making out she has a perfect marriage except for the affair. The way this man went at Vikki, I can well believe he is a wife beater. Some women will put up with anything where money is concerned. Personally I can’t stand her, and as for all these health kicks she’s on laughable.

    • motherall

      Shannon has more money than David.

  • Wes

    She’s cries so much like a nut ball, I don’t know how David does it. No wonder he had an affair. Probably the first time he didn’t want to beat the hell out of himself from the misery. Id hire a six foot model and say here have a nice night, We’re done

    • Mcouts

      He probably stays because she’ll take what’s left of their assets and prevent him from seeing the kids. She did that with his mother if I recall correctly.

  • motherall

    I don’t believe that any of them text what they say. You’d have to be a freaking idiot to text this stuff and even more ignorant to keep it for years.

  • Weeds1

    I’m surprised that there was a prosecution if she didn’t want to testify to it. I know some states are forced to make the arrest but without her testimony, very difficult prosecution.

  • nvrbl

    Shannon is the one who talks about David’s abuse nonstop. It is Shannon’s passive aggressive way to punish David. Shannon projects the rage she has for David onto Vicki. It is not entertaining to watch.
    Same with Tamra. The rumor about Eddie has been out there for years. Tamra is the one who talks about it every show.
    I think Tamra and Shannon should both go. This ” I won’t film with her because of something that happened two years ago” is BS. I FF through both of them.