Tamra Judge’s Estranged Daughter Explains Not Speaking To ‘RHOC’ Mother: ‘She’s Mentally & Verbally Abusive’

Posted on Oct 14 2016 - 5:45am by BeachSpin

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Tamra Judge blew a gasket when Real Housewives of Orange County co-star, Kelly Dodd, dared breathe a word about her non-relationship with her oldest daughter, Sidney Barney.

Tamra lashed out in a blinding rage towards Kelly on the last episode of the show, during a cast trip to Ireland. Tamra blasted Kelly for “going there,” labeling her heartbreak “life changing pain.” Tamra didn’t mention that her pain was brought on by her own choices.

The following are the facts that led Tamra to the edge of the hyperventilating insanity viewers witnessed on Monday. Do they give out Emmys for reality TV?

FACT: Simon and Tamra Barney split and divorced in 2011. Simon fought for custody of their three children and an agreement was reached in 2015.

FACT: Simon accused Tamra of child abuse and neglect — and putting reality fame before motherhood. The judge dismissed the charges, citing a lack of evidence.

FACT: The custody battle left oldest daughter Sidney, who was 17 at the time, at a crossroads. Sidney decided that she no longer wanted to live with her mother. Tamra claimed that she had no idea why Sidney left her to go live with her father, full-time. 

“She basically left home that day and two years later has not come back,” Tamra explained during the October 2015, Season 10 reunion, insisting she had “no idea where it was coming from.”

“I was trying to do everything I could do to try to get her back and I couldn’t understand why Sidney left,” she sobbed.

FACT: Tamra tried to force Sidney into therapy after her decision, but the judge denied her request, due to Sidney’s proximity to appropriate legal age to make her own decisions.

FACT: Tamra ignored her daughter’s request for privacy, and spilled her whole sad story on the Bravo reunion sofa. Sidney was the unwilling star of Tamra’s post-season 10 story.

“I don’t care anymore – he’s [Simon] not going to push me around, tell me what to do,” Tamra said. “I’ve kept quiet because of him for so long and now I’m speaking out.”

FACT: Shortly after Tamra’s public disclosure, Simon posted a quote from mental health expert and author Gail Meyers, hinting to Tamra as a ‘narcissist’ and an ’emotional vampire’.

FACT: Sidney posted a scathing message on her Facebook page—shattering any public misconceptions about why she chose to remain estranged from her mother.

On October 21, 2015, Sidney wrote in a Facebook post,

“I watched the reunion show last night and I am disappointed. I try not to talk about personal family matters, but I was made aware that my mother was talking about me and discussing our personal family matters on the show again. At this point I think it is necessary to tell the truth since she does not know how to tell the truth.”

“The reason I do not live with my mother is not because of my dad, it is because she is mentally/verbally abusive and not a mother to me. When I told my mother that I didn’t want to live with her anymore I asked only a few things from her. For the past two years I’ve been asking her to stop treating me badly, to stop doing embarrassing and talking about me on the show, and to not use my siblings and I as storylines. Clearly she hasn’t followed through with anything that would have made me go back to her house. After telling her this for two years in consoling, she still hasn’t recognized that these problems are between her and I and continues to make this about my father and her.”

“If she really wanted me back in her life she would have taken responsibility and changed two years ago when I told the first time what was causing our relationship to suffer. Obviously, I am just another storyline that feeds her fame and her wallet. Now you’re using Spencer as a storyline, I hope he realizes it before the damage is done.”

FACT: Tamra continues to speak out on social media about the pain of losing Sidney—her Bravo fame inviting more and more attention. Tamra continues to sign back on with Bravo, despite Sidney’s original request—that they work out their issues in private.

According to Sidney, Tamra chose a trashy reality television career over her daughter. Sidney wanted no part of it, and chose to take a stand and save herself from the Bravo machine. Good for her.

So here they sit. That’s a fact.

 

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  • Indy

    Wow. That was painful to read. Tamra is a horrible mother and an extremely selfish woman. The fact that this subject was again brought up on the show is perpetuating the abuse against this young woman. Tamra is guilty for still being on this show against the requests of her children and for making them a storyline, BUT Kelly is also guilty for bringing this subject to the forefront again. There’s a lot of blame to go around. I hope this poor girl can separate herself from her toxic mom and her relentless quest for “fame”. I also hope that no one mentions this child’s name again on TV. Sad.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Tamra made it too easy for Kelly to bring up her daughter by talking about the issue with Kelly in the first place.

      • Bad Barbie

        Tamra started that drama though.

      • Indy

        If Kelly can’t keep her drunk, foul mouth closed, that’s Kelly’s fault. Not anyone else’s fault.

  • Sandy Wood

    It is tragic when the children of these reality “stars” become collateral damage in the parents quest for fame and fortune.
    Tamara may argue that this is her livelihood and certain behaviors are expected to keep herself relevant…that’s the choice she made.
    It is truly unfortunate that the disposable benefits this income provides is more relevant than the love and respect of children.

  • RealitytvJunkie

    Tamara is a terrible mother to not protect her daughter’s privacy. Tamra strikes me as narcissistic, controlling, and pugnacious. Enough said…the epitome of any man’s nightmare for a wife, and a classic example of mommy dearest for children.

  • CNN

    Oh wow. That is sad but good for Sidney for telling the truth and not wanting to be talked about/used for the show. She seems way smarter and more mature than her mother ever will be.

  • TopGear

    Imagine being a teenage girl whose mother is on TV. Now imagine being a teenage girl whose mother has no respect for herself in front of the camera, and nothing is off limits. This girls friends will see her mom dressed in a lace onesie at her sex party, her absolutely disgusting workout sex tape she made with Eddie, and her practically shooting a porn in her bathtub. I’m sure her mother’s actions on TV have made her life difficult. I’d be so ashamed of my mom if she acted like any of these women.

    • Bad Barbie

      The mother divorced the dad and not even the following season she was already doing all of that. When is she a MOTHER first?

  • Chi Town Baby

    I’m on the daughter’s side. She told her mother to stop airing their personal stuff on her show and yet she continues to do it. She is a mother before tv and fame. Luckily she has her dad to care for her. Some mothers are crappy and she’s one of them. Good for the daughter to stand up to her mom.

  • Yolie

    This young lady was embarrassed by her mother too many times. Tamra chose the fame of being on a cheesy reality show over her daughter. If she really wanted to begin to mend her relationship with her daughter, she would leave the show, but being trashy on TV is clearly more important to her.

    • Bad Barbie

      And being naked and “in love” with a new man which Sydney has no relationship with. She left the dad and bounced to the next hot penis she found. yeah, kids get damaged by that but Tamra is a Fitness Bunny and Reality TV star before she is a mother.

  • Dave

    The daughter Sidney has only one Mother. Parents aren’t perfect and it seems Tamra has come a long way. Be careful Sidney, down the road your own children will reject you or maybe you won’t be blessed with kids. It comes back to bite you one way or another. Making up is better then regret for the rest of your life.

    • MidwestMiddie

      All true but Tamra has made her life and Sidney’s life even more difficult by
      mentioning her daughter on Bravo.
      She should have taken the opportunity with Kelly to defend her children by saying,
      “Please do not bring up Sidney or my other children on the show. Our lives and family matters are being kept private. I’m going to give them the privacy they deserve and have requested. You don’t know them, so Shut Up!”

      • Dave

        I had the best mom in the world but some people don’t. I’ve seen children physically abused by their mothers and so verbally and mentally abused that they cowered in fear of any adult. It not only hurts that child but can hurt her children and their children. Abuse in any form can be catastrophic and deadly. I’ve seen children that are strong enough to overcome their abuse too but never by keeping their abusive mother relevant in their lives.

    • sideof Sour Cream

      exactly. Whoever is encouraging this girl to say these things publicly is the real villain in this story. It’s just so trashy and ugly, and stuff like this NEVER goes away. The daughter needs to learn what “taking the high road means” and why in the long run it is a better option when dealing with family problems.

      • Dave

        The majority of this girl’s influencing factor has been from her father. He has brainwashed her – that is abuse. The rant that she wrote sounds just like her father and not at all what a fifteen year old writes or talks like.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          I think so too. Simon is a control freak.
          & at the very least, even if he’s not directly coaching her, he should be more proactive in protecting her from the media. He clearly has zero understanding of the natural separation teen girls and their moms go through, and he’s vindictively exploiting it (if you ask me) either way you look at it.

          • Dave

            Terrible kid. Brat. Fueled by her fathers narcissists ways. The mom is not perfect but in no way. Hopefully one day they can have a healthy relationship, in spite, of that horrible excuse for a human being Simon. Disgusting.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            A decent father would say something along the lines of “she’s still your mother and this behavior reflects just as poorly on you and I as it does her.” And also, “people aren’t stupid, they all know who your mom is, you don’t need to put yourself in the middle of this to prove something that everyone already knows.”
            I do think Tamra will completely forgive her though. Tamra values her own relationship with her mom too much to throw away the same thing with her daughter.

          • Dave

            I agree .. This post was definitely written by the bitter father. Those phrases do not come from a young child’s mouth. Tamra rarely, if ever, mentions her and Simon’s children. It was all peaches and cream when Simon was on the show controlling Tamara’s every move.

          • missy

            Dave, you are a terrible brat, not Sidney. I’m blocking you because your comments are pathetic and infuriating, good day.

          • All About The Tea

            Why are you personally attacking posters just because you disagree with their opinion?

          • missy

            His opinion is atrocious. You don’t seem to mind him personally attacking someone’s child. A child that has been through enough. I’m expressing MY opinion as well. Don’t like it, then block me.

          • All About The Tea

            Your wishes are granted. Your banned.

          • MidwestMiddie

            I think Simon offered Sidney what she needed during her early teen
            years ………….a loving home life away from Bravo. Tamra was and still is focused on bringing her children on Bravo. As the kids get older
            and if they want to be on the show, Simon and Tamra should discuss it.
            I think Simon is well aware of the possible difficulties between young
            teenage girls and their mothers. It just so happens that Sidney was
            appalled seeing her mother on TV naked in a bathtub with her BF …….I
            can understand that, why couldn’t Tamra?
            Most teens can stand the thought of their parents making love. : )

          • sideof Sour Cream

            me too Middie. Tamra is seriously flawed, no doubt about it.
            I’m hoping, for the kids’ sake, it’s not the dad encouraging these types of statements. But if it isn’t, in my mind he’s just as guilty for not stopping it–as Tamra is for bringing Sidney up in the first place.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Considering Sidney’s age and the advice given by the Court’s Counselors, Simon may be doing exactly what has been recommended.
            Sidney had many hours with these Counselors and they knew if she was stating her truth and opinions or what someone else, her father, had told her to say.
            At this stage, Sidney is making her own decisions and Tamra has
            to learn that about her daughter and reach out to her on that level.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            I think they all need to keep their mouths shut as far as the press is concerned. It’s all ugly and makes them all look worse than they have to.
            jmo.

          • MidwestMiddie

            I can’t recall the last time Simon has spoken out in public. Tamra
            has used her daughter-mother problems as a point of discussion
            on social media and she has to stop. It is the only way things can eventually work out well.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            I really don’t follow it at all. Am not fans of any of them on OC anymore. Icky ruined it for me 100%.
            But yeah I agree, Tamra needs to shut her trap for sure. #famewhore 🙂

          • MidwestMiddie

            Icky ruined it for me too and I no longer watch.

          • Bad Barbie

            For real!

          • GetReal2014

            So true, Midwest.

          • Bad Barbie

            This was not to the “press” btw and this was a post on Sydney’s FB a year ago after her mother when on the reunion and started talking about her.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            did not know that—thx 🙂

          • Bad Barbie

            THank you!

          • Bad Barbie

            Did you miss the part that even a JUDGE allowed Sydney to make her own choices because of her proximity to legal age? simon can’t have control of what she wants to post on her own social media.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            It’s sad any way you look at it. Clearly she’s lacking a lot in the parent dept., poor thing.

          • Bad Barbie

            She has done worse than that. All for a paycheck and TV fame. I would have walked away too.

          • John Henry Dill

            Same as she did when they were married. It was OK then.
            He should focus on his 25 year old girlfriend.

          • John Henry Dill

            Why would he be appalled? He was living with a 25 year old new girlfriend

          • MidwestMiddie

            Do you mean why would “she” be appalled? Because her mother
            was on TV, naked in a bathtub making out with a man. Her friends
            and classmates saw the scene and she was probably teased.

          • PCpolice

            Again, his girlfriend is 35 now, thus 31 then. He was not seeing her when they split. Tamra performed in a soft porn act before an audience of a million plus. One happened to be her daughter fresh out of a broken home, heart still aching, having to watch, know her father’s heart was breaking at the sight. In addition, how embarrassing for your classmates to see. I can only imagine the comments by boys.

          • ‘Chez Rose

            What kids would bother to watch this show, not really for kids any of the franchise

          • PCpolice

            It’s about timing. Did Shannon need to rev up an already hot Tamra after having just left a contentious bar scene while intoxicated?
            No, and no. It could’ve been shared after the trip. Her motive was clear. In addition, they’re (Heather,Tamra and Shannon) hypocrites in the biggest way. They attacked Kelly for telling Shannon what Vicki’d said about Eddie and David.

          • PCpolice

            Teens attending school with a celebrity’s daughter, the teen’s parents, Sidney’s extended family and so on. This is natural, especially with all the back and forth public sniping. People forget that Tam is a celebrity.

          • CNN

            I disagree with you. I highly doubt her father is posting things on her Facebook. Also, what child wants to have her life on reality tv? There’s definitely more to this story but to say a teenager was incapable of writing something like that is ridiculous. There are a lot of educated, well spoken teenagers out there. Plus, if she’s been living with her father for all this time, chances are there’s a reason for it.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            It’s foul and ugly either way, no matter who is writing it. And both the parents are equally to blame.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Their marriage didn’t end well and their relationship stayed acrimonious during their divorce.

          • sideof Sour Cream

            yes. they are immature–the both of them. Stupid and ugly behavior from day one.

            I SO do not miss OC !!!

          • sideof Sour Cream

            oh and ps CNN disagree with me all you want but my opinion is not “ridiculous”. Lets try to keep personal attacks out of this, oK?

          • Bad Barbie

            Besides, it was not complex language. It was very basic. lol

          • John Henry Dill

            Most kids her age are not even on Facebook. It’s probably Simon or his 25 year old girlfriend.

            Kids her age are on , Instagram or Snapchat.

            It starts off saying, someone told her…

          • A 17- year old not on Facebook? What world do you live in? They start around 9 yrs old now using social media.

          • John Henry Dill

            Facebook is for older people. Kids left FB after the parents started using it.
            They are on Snap Chat, Instagram, Twitter, and others

          • PCpolice

            Thank you! I just said that myself, lol.

          • ‘Chez Rose

            Your legally only supposed to be on their at 18, so parents shouldn’t let their children have accounts, lots of creeps out there. Plus why should adults have to sensor their posts of swearing and the like because stupid people let their kids join, especially at 9!!!

          • Birdie

            So what?? It was broadcast all over the country—HELLO. Tamra made a spectacle of herself during that reunion, knowing full well that Sidney would HATE it. Sticking it to Simon was more important than her daughter’s wishes….as well as blubbering like an idiot to Andy Cohen for ratings.

          • John Henry Dill

            She didn’t watch it. She was told by someone. She says that herself!!

          • Birdie

            And? So in that same vein, Tamra should have not reacted in the least to Kelly Dodd–because Tamra never heard what she said…someone told her.

          • John Henry Dill

            That’s the same thing that happen when Kelly called Shannon a CUNT and cursed at Tamera. She heard about it second hand. They get paid a lot of money to stir the pot. Clearly you don’t understand their platform or genre.

            Kelly is an active alcoholic with rage and anger management issues. She should never have been cast on the show. She’s been arrested and court ordered to answer management and rehab. It’s sad to see her behave this way on TV because she is not acting, it’s how she really is.

            If she talks about her husband on TV that way, whom she still lives with, why wouldn’t she talk about them by going below the belt. She will continue to go below the belt, because that’s apart of her illness.

            My hope for Kelly is she returns to rehab and continues anger management.

          • Birdie

            Thanks for the education–but I have watched this crap-fest since Season 1. Tamra has PLENTY of rage issues of her own–hence her death threat and meltdown last episode–OFF camera. I would much rather see her trashy ass gone from this show than Kelly.

          • Marsbars09

            Hi Birdie! Agreed. Tamra has been on this show far too long causing misery to other people’s lives. She needs to exit stage left.

          • bingo32

            Shannon was antagonizing Kelly in the same way Heather antagonized Shannon her 1st season. So what if Kelly called Shannon a c*nt? They all use the word and Heather is on ET or Access Hollywood saying it is her fave word for cryin out loud! Her reaction was beyond absurd.

          • Birdie

            Heather’s forced ugly cry during the drive home was one of my favorite moments of the season. LOL

          • MidwestMiddie

            Perhaps her classmates saw the show and told her or teased her
            about her mother still yapping about their problems on TV.

          • bingo32

            No she does not! She says “I watched the reunion show last night…”
            Reading comprehension, Tamra?

          • PCpolice

            Thank you!

          • PCpolice

            Perhaps ten years ago this may have been true. These days however,
            the majority of teens have some sort of social media account whether
            it be instagram, twitter, fb, snapchat. Simon’s also smart enough to know you don’t create a FB account under your almost adult daughter’s name, then speak for her. Come on now! That would be the epitome of stupid. That he is not.

        • ohjeez

          How do you know any of that? Do you live with Sidney and her father to witness the “brainwashing”? At fifteen I could easily write what Sidney wrote it’s not that sophisticated. Being that Sidney is still in school practicing her writing skills she probably writes better than both Simon and definitely that dumshit tamra

          • John Henry Dill

            How do you know any of what you are saying? Do you live with Simon?

          • Maria Lane

            Do you?

          • ohjeez

            No that’s why I am not commenting about what Simon is or isn’t doing like the op was

        • John Henry Dill

          It starts off saying, it was brought to get attention. Do you know it’s Simon or his 25 year old girlfriend

          • PCpolice

            “It was brought to MY attention”, not to “get” attention.
            Sidney has a myriad of vehicles in which she gleans info. The internet’s full of em. Everyone that knows her personally can mention it.
            Simon wouldn’t make this mistake during this crucial time. He doesn’t need to tell her.

      • Bad Barbie

        First, this was a year ago… when her mother when on tv and used sydney for sympathy when she was already asked to not do so. She is lucky that sydney is basically an emancipated minor or else Simon could have gag order her for speaking about a child she doesn’t have custody of.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          Emancipation is a double edged sword in this case. & either way the kid loses.

      • Cdw789

        Her mother needs to learn to keep her trap shut. She can hate Simon all she wants but he is the father of her children, she thought he was awesome at some point. I don’t know what he is or isn’t doing but I do know that he doesn’t have a show talking about their business all the time.

        • Bad Barbie

          I wonder if people even watched this show when they were together an dwhile divorcing. Tamra plastered her whole “truth” for a role on the show. She smeared Simon, her kids saw that.

          • John Henry Dill

            Simon smeared himself. Why are women on here OK with how he treated her? I would never treat a woman that way.

          • Maria Lane

            If you were fired from your job bc your wife acted and dressed like a tramp on national TV, you would like that? You have got to be either Tamra or Shannon.

          • John Henry Dill

            Unless one or both of them are a Black Male, that would be a NO!!
            I’m just someone who actually watched the show.
            You know, Pop Culture, Sociology, Mindless Entertainment… Kind of like this conversation with you, mindless entertainment!

          • John Henry Dill

            Did you verify that with his employer?? He could have sued them for that. I don’t very seriously if he was fired it was because of Tamera. Perhaps it was because of his behavior.
            Remember how many times Vicki called him out on his he was treating Tamara. Remember her having breast surgery because that’s what he wanted. Remember him refusing to allow her to have a breast reduction?
            He treated her really badly on TV, perhaps that’s why he was fired.

            In my opinion, Tamera have grown way more than Vicki. Vicki is the same as 8 years ago, Tamera have grown. She’s not perfect, but she’s better.
            It’s a entertainment show, remember. It’s not a documentary.

          • PCpolice

            Omg, Vicki can’t be cited with any amount of credibility on marriage when we witnessed how she treated Donn. She chased him off.
            She seemed to want a single Tamra. She had no business interfering in their marriage. Interestingly enough, they both regret their divorces.
            Many people don’t know that it was Simon who filed, not Tamra.
            He also had nothing to do with her breast surgerIES. The girl’s had multiple. She made these choices. He’s allowed to say what he likes just as Eddie did, but these opinions weren’t in any way forced on her.
            I agree with your final sentence, yes, it’s an entertainment show. Many of the storylines are fabricated, but many aren’t.

          • PCpolice

            California’s an “At will” state. An employer can fire an employee without reason given, for any reason at all. It spares them lawsuits.
            When you’re fired however, you usually know why.

          • PCpolice

            Again, he wasn’t treating her badly. That’s how Bravo wanted it to be perceived. Tamra’s their teller machine, literally. Watch the first couple of seasons before Tamra gained fame. They were tight. She can claim otherwise once she’d left, but of course she’s going to say that.
            He worked his butt off to provide for her and their children. Tamra didn’t have to work, didn’t want to work until she became famous. She was always doing things to embarrass her family. Towards the end she was downright nasty.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          I agree.

      • John Henry Dill

        She says, it was brought to her attention. You know it’s Simon or his 25 year old girlfriend.

        • ohjeez

          Are you kidding she could have found out in a million other more likely ways like her friends or the media

        • sideof Sour Cream

          RTV is such an ugly mess. I wish they’d all keep their kids out of this degrading fame-ho career they’ve chosen.

          • John Henry Dill

            I agree!!

      • bingo32

        Tamra is supposedly the adult, thus it is up to HER to take he high road not Sidney.
        It seems Tamra is the villian since she spoke of Sidney at the reunion after Sidney specifically asked her not to. Tamra got what she deserved.

        • sideof Sour Cream

          I agree, it’s up to Tamra and Simon, not Sidney (to find the high road)–because clearly she’s never been given a map.

    • ohjeez

      Or Sidney will be the great mom that Tamra isn’t and she will have a great relationship with her kids. The daughter has every right to respond to her mother’s public storytelling. Simon has nothing to do with it Imo only Tamar made her choices and they were never in the best interest of her kids.

      • missy

        My grandmother was a Tamra and my mom was a Sidney. My mother is wonderful and she learned from her mothers mistakes. She refused to continue the cycle and I adore her for that.

    • Cdw789

      Sidney is a child, Tamra is supposed to be the adult. Tamra keeps bringing her and Simon up to try to get sympathy points or excuse her bad behaviors.

      • Bryan

        Sidney is about to become an adult and when she does, barnyard will probably be written out of her life for good and it she will have only herself to blame.

    • Bad Barbie

      Tamra is not a good mother and that was proven in court already. Why are we shaming a teenager that has been done wrong by her own mother? I bet these are the same people telling Kenya Moore that no wonder her mom abandoned her as a newborn. LOL

      Sydney is not wrong for not wanting a relationship with her mother. Respect is a 2 way street and parents feel like children owe them all the respect in the world even when they are abusing them. FOH with that. Sydney should grow up and be excellent and make sure that she is a better mother than her mother could ever wish.

      • John Henry Dill

        It was not proven in court. The case was dismissed for lack of evidence.

        • PCpolice

          It wasn’t dismissed for lack of evidence only, but for Sidney’s age.
          She was old enough to choose for herself per the judge.

      • ‘Chez Rose

        And her son wants nothing to do with Simon, so he’s a bad dad then too

        • Bad Barbie

          Her son is not his son. He came in the picture when her son was already a teen and from the looks of the first seasons on the show, he was a disrespectful kid to Simon. Now sure what you’re point was there. He is not his dad and didn’t raise him.

          • ‘Chez Rose

            Not talking about Ryan, clearly! She has two children with Simon and her older son Ryan. Her daughter lives with Simon and won’t see her, her son lives with tamra and wants nothing to do with his dad….. Clearly that was my point!

            Try to understand what your talking about before commenting and looking the fool

    • missy

      Dave, you are out of your effing mind!

    • Marsbars09

      Tamara is the same a-hole she is today than when she joined the show 7 or 8 years ago.

      • John Henry Dill

        If she was the same person, when Kelly cursed her out in the restaurant at Megan’s party. She held great restraint.

        This is all Simon’s influence. Even Sidney started she was told her mom was talking about her.

        • Marsbars09

          Tamara has most likely been an a-hole her entire life. Just chooses her behavior when it’s convenient to the story line.

        • bingo32

          Kelly was honest when she told Tamra she was an effing idiot. I think Tamra knew it was true as she had no business interfering between Kelly & Shannon.

          R u Tamra? You seem to think the only way a 17yo girl gets intel is thru her father when that couldn’t be further from the truth.

          I hope you are getting paid well for your posts as they make you sound ignorant and myopic.

          • John Henry Dill

            LOL, and you my dear sound so incredibly intelligent, LOL!

        • PCpolice

          Stop it. It’s fine if you’re a fan of Tamra’s, but ignoring the truth doesn’t work with those who’ve watched the show from day one.
          Common sense also comes in handy because again, at 17, Sydney had several of obtaining info. Social media’s a biggie, internet gossip headlines, friends, classmates, extended family, neighbors, it’s everywhere. The show reaches millions throughout a season.
          After Sidney once again pleaded with her mother to stifle anything having to do with her, here’s what Tamra’s done since (just a sprinkling)
          “The reality star admitted in August that she was still trying to talk to her daughter, and told The Daily Dish she still reaches out weekly.”
          10-14-16

          She posts a picture of a crying woman 10/12/16 on social media speaking about the pain felt by badly missing a loved one
          This was clearly addressed to Sidney.

          “My heart hurts everyday and praying and keeping busy is all I can do to stop the tears. I’m balling my eyes out watching. I miss my daughter so much I sometimes feel like I could die of a broken heart 💔. It’s in God hands”

          “I am very hopeful that my situation with Sidney and Spencer will be fixed,” 10/2016

          Judge said they’d reconnected briefly following last year’s reunion, but she once again couldn’t keep her piehole shut, at Sidney’s request. Tamra: “It was something I really wanted to keep off the show, and it’s so big in my life that it’s just too hard,” Judge told The Daily Dish.”..So what she’s saying is this, Tamra has no respect for her daughter’s wishes. If she was mine, I would never mention her name on the show again. This is Tamra’s fault. These statements are recent ones. There’s tons more.

    • PCpolice

      We all have one mother, but that doesn’t mean they’re all worthy of the title or position.
      Sydney’s requests were more than reasonable. This is a mother on an internationally televised show. Big difference. When she’s constantly trashing the children’s father,to millions, which by the way, they only have one of as well, it has a very negative effect on children. They have to hear it from classmates, friends, other family, store magazine displays, internet, it’s all over. Sometimes it’s healthier to cut ties especially when mom refuses to act in the best interests of her child/children. Sydney gave her years to straighten her act, but she hasn’t

  • Ravello

    OC is my favorite franchise, that is except for Tamra. I cannot stand the sight of her and often fast forward through her scenes. I cannot stand the sight of Eddie, Cut Fitness and her fake crying scenes, Andy needs to get her acting lessons.
    Her kids have my deepest sympathy.
    Tamra is the lowest of the low. She may be as bad as Kate Gosselin.
    Her fifteen minutes should be up.

    • justanothermary

      Does anyone else put an “n” in the cut of Cut Fitness when they see it?

      • Happylazymartha

        ROFLMAO! now I do

        • MidwestMiddie

          LOL!
          Bad…….justanothermary : )

      • John Henry Dill

        No!! That would be disrespectful to women!

  • tsc

    Dear Tamra: You are suppose to be smarter than a teenager who has less brain cells than adults. You could have made an agreement with Sydney to NEVER mention her name or your relationship with her on TV or in any form of media. And for doing this, you could have told her that you would remain on the show. I think that that would have been reasonable. After a year or two, if your relationship with Sydney turned into a good one, I am sure that Sydney would have been okay with you talking about the great relationship you have with all of your kids (including the slightly creepy one, Ryan). Dear Sydney: Your mom is not a monster. All teens seem to think this at some point in their lives and then they turn 40 and are able to see their parents as hurt children. You will then be able to see your parents as broken but trying their best to carry on and raise you. Holding on to all of your anger is bad for you but by the time you are 40, you will start to loose steam and let it go. You have a decision to behave wise beyond your years or be a typical teenager and simply hate your mom. That is your choice. These two are both drama queens.

    • Chi Town Baby

      As a daughter of a narcissistic mother, I can actually agree with what she is saying. My mother only cared about me in that she wanted to look like the “best mother in world” but behind closed doors she would ignore me. I always wanted the type of relationship I saw my friends have with their moms, but she wasn’t capable of caring for anyone else. Every time I would try and put boundaries, she would bulldoze her way through them. Just watching Tamara on RHOC makes me have a doubt that what this girl is saying is true. I wish I would’ve thought to cut off contact with my mom a lot sooner, I did it 8 years ago and my life is so much better because of it.

      • tsc

        When I was in my late teens, early 20s, I cut off contact with my father. By the time I was 40, I had emotionally let go of the angry that I was still feeling towards him. He got sick, I took a certain amount of care of him but I never tried to get emotionally close to him because, as the saying goes, he showed me who he was and I finally believed him. You cut off contact with mom at the right time for you. It takes a while to realize that all hope of it getting better is gone. You know it but you have to feel it for yourself. It is actually not a sad feeling, it is a freeing feeling. Thank you for telling your story.

        • Chi Town Baby

          Thank you for sharing your story. Letting go of the anger is the best thing you could have done. I’m not there yet but trying to get there. I know it will only benefit me to do so.

          • Bad Barbie

            and you not having a relationship with her doesn’t mean you are “loaded with anger and not free”. That is all bullshit. You don’t have to allow people back in your life to heal. Good luck to you and do what is best for you. Just because it works for others…

      • Bad Barbie

        I am sorry you had to live through that. (HUGS) and I am happy that you are doing better. Tamra is a POS she only cares about her and her tv fame.

      • Txtea

        Did you read the daughters of narcissistic mothers? I recently did and it blew me away. She was the ignore me kind too, it’s been almost a year. I know exactly what you’re saying unfortunately.

      • Hugs to you, Chi Town.

      • Michele Bintliff

        Yes many hugs to you it’s very hard when it’s a family who’s a narcissist let alone a mother.

      • pandora’s wine box

        I’m the daughter of mother with a narcissistic personality disorder. There is a big difference between my mom and Tamra….Mine never looked for me, except to use and abuse. Like yours, she is a bulldozer of boundaries. She never cared period and is not interested in therapy. For me all there is available is her self centered, unloving persona, insisting in perpetuating an unhealthy situation. It’s being 13 years since I moved away (I’m 46) but always hopeful that a miracle may occur – still nothing… That’s why I’m not so sure Tamra has “NPD,” as she keeps begging her daughter to re-defined their relationship involving therapy. Truly self centered people don’t care, they are cold like a fish. Perhaps Tamra’s good intentions are for “show”, I don’t know, maybe that’s why her daughter doesn’t want to go to therapy… I would go in a sec if my mom would want to work things out between us, regardless of all the pain that she has inflicted over the years, she still is my mom and I would give it a try if she would only care. I understand my mom’s bizarre behavior knowing that bad things happened to her as well, that lead her to be the way she is….It is very hard to live without moms, in a way I’ve done it all my life, sadly sometimes is the only option.

      • ‘Chez Rose

        You do realise Simon is a narcissist right

    • Bad Barbie

      What are you talking about? Do you even know the history? You are blaming her daughter and “being the typical teenager” when that is not the case. Her mother is a monster and a bitch. Sydney is wise beyond her years while her mother is acting like a teenager about to become a hooker. Miss me with that. Sydney is better off without Tamra. sad but true.

      • John Henry Dill

        That’s all Simon’s influence. Sidney even says, It was brought to my attention. (Simon)

        It was perfectly fine with Simon when they were married to be in the show.

        If anything he wanted her off the show after the divorce to keep her financially dependent on him.

        Let’s not forget, he had a 25 year old girlfriend.

        • Elle

          How do we know Simon brought it to her attention? She is a teenager with (guessing but pretty sure)who has access to TV, internet & phone. Her friends at school could have brought it to her attention..I don’t know.
          I’m not saying I think Simon was a great catch. Or that they should have remained married. Truthfully, I don’t like Simon or Tamara. I’m saying keep your children out of your adult issues

          • John Henry Dill

            I agree they should completely keep them out if it. It was Kelly, not Tamra who brought her up.

          • bingo32

            No it was Shannon who brought it up to Tamra. Kelly said something different out of range of Tamra. Shannon is a liar, b/c she likes to be a shit-stirrer under the guise of being “BFFs”

          • Marcy Scrot

            No, Kelly said it was no wonder her daughter didn’t want to live with her. Shannon told the truth

          • PCpolice

            Shannon need not say anything. She purposely sought an attack.
            After all, it would eventually come out along with the trash talk Tamra’s done.

          • ‘Chez Rose

            A true friend would tell you when someone’s talking about your kid

          • PCpolice

            True. Though Kelly told Shannon in anger, Shannon didn’t need to relay the info. She 100% knew what it would stir, an explosion of mass proportions.

          • ‘Chez Rose

            She said Kelly’s exact words, any woman would expect her friend to tell them if they’d said what she said. Kelly was disgusting in that moment.

            Granted they Defo tried to get her naked wasted, no doubt

          • Elle

            You are right..it was Kelly that brought her up this season. And, she shouldn’t have. I was more referring to when Tamra brought her up at the reunion show.

          • PCpolice

            Tamra’s brought others children up many, many times. Would you like examples? And, Kelly wasn’t talking about Sydney either. She was speaking to their relationship status—non-existent.

          • Dayle Hudson

            Doesnt Kelly worry about her daughter hearing a lot of things about her? Even if she doesn’t see it on the.TV she could hear stuff from friends

        • PCpolice

          Stop. Jumping to the conclusion that Simon was “the one” to bring it to her attention is ludicrous. She has friends, classmates, their parents, cousins, aunts, uncles, siblings, a social media following of her own.
          This wasn’t Simon induced. He’s not stupid. He wouldn’t risk having her tell a counselor or judge these things are being relayed.

          Btw, his girlfriend of four years (only one) is 35, not 25. You’ve deducted 10 years somewhere along the way. She’s now his fiance.

      • John Henry Dill

        So you know them personally?

        Lots of teenage girls go thru hating their mom for a couple of years. That is very common.

        • PCpolice

          She’s been clear and precise about what her mother’s needed to do to regain her trust. They were minor things that any child should expect.
          Don’t discuss me to the world. Don’t trash my father. Don’t use us as story lines. Don’t speak incredibly lewdly. Don’t perform soft porn on your new boyfriend when you’re still fresh out of your marriage from their father. Don’t fight people. Don’t scream at people. Don’t lie.

    • PCpolice

      Her minor daughter at the time was/is a drama queen? Please.

  • Sandy Wood

    Maybe Sidney didn’t want to be around her creepy step-brother.

    • Michele Bintliff

      Half brother there is a difference

      • Sandy Wood

        You are right Michele, there is a difference, I stand corrected.
        He’s still a creep.

        • Marsbars09

          LOL!
          Hi Sandy!

          • Sandy Wood

            Hi Mars…we are being schooled tonight!

          • Marsbars09

            I see, but it appears she needs the education. 😉

    • BooBooBaby

      It isn’t her Step brother….it is her Blood half brother. They have the same mother, just not the same fathers.

      • marci wilson

        Tamra has to decide which child to FOSTER. One, daughter begging her to be normal or Son needing her to carry his balls (so he don’t have to)! Hard choice but to do it all in GOD’S NAME???? NO BRAIN NEEDED!!! HEART & SOUL SHOULD LEAD THAT!!!!!

  • Evil Queen

    Tamara is an emotional vampire. Too true.
    Tamara, get off the show,& take care of your daughter, before it’s too late.

    • Bad Barbie

      It is too late.

  • Cdw789

    I remember when Tamra told Simon in the back of a limo f-you I want a divorce. I remember thinking how horrible that was and what would her children think when they saw it.
    It seems like the daughter wasn’t asking for much,!its a shame Tamra couldn’t respect her wishes.

    • ohjeez

      I think Simon wanted them to get off the show and that’s what the divorce was really about. Tamra chose the show over her family.

      • John Henry Dill

        No it’s not!

        • John Henry Dill

          I think the divorce had more to do with his 25 year old girlfriend

          • ohjeez

            We saw on camera Tamar asking for a divorce with woohoo icky woohooing her along. tamra is a famehoe and Simon just wanted his family back.. Tamar wanted the show.

          • John Henry Dill

            She ask for a Divorce for a reason.

          • ohjeez

            ya, the fame and the show

          • John Henry Dill

            She didn’t get enough money to remain in Orange County. Don’t think she would just do it for the show. Did you watch how he treated her?

          • PCpolice

            He didn’t treat her badly. Matter of fact when they began, prior to fame, he was very good to her. He worked hard to provide for his family. She didn’t work, yet he sure treated her to nice things. He spoiled her.
            The friction didn’t start until a couple of seasons in. Tamra had pulled away from him and their children, choosing the show, real estate, anything to add to her storyline and pocketbook. You’ve heard her say that if she had it to do over again, she wouldn’t have abandoned the marriage. Tamra made everything about her.

          • Mcouts

            Did you watch how SHE treated him?

          • PCpolice

            The reason, Fame and Fortune.

          • PCpolice

            No, that’s not what it was about. Tamra had became a golddigging fame monger. She was no longer dedicated to her family. Don’t you think Tamra would’ve made it international news had this occurred? It didn’t

          • BooBooBaby

            Is that the original girlfriend he had after him and Tamra split, or is this his new one!?

          • PCpolice

            Hi BBB. All that I know is this is that he’s been with her, Catushia Lenni, for six or so years.(was listed as 5yrs last January)

        • ohjeez

          How do you know? You have no idea but maybe you are team Tamra lol…. Different strokes for different folks I find her vile..and totally get why her daughter and her ex want nothing to do with her.

      • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

        If Simon and this idiot daughter are any indication, I can’t say I blame her.

        • ohjeez

          That’s just sad imo. I stopped watching oc due to Tamra being such a vile woman and I would always side with her young daughter over that used up trash. Simon I don’t know but I didn’t see enough on the show to villainize him the only one whose behavior I have seen that is gross is Tamra so I don’t blame her daughter or Simon for wanting nothing to do with her

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Oh hunnay! Simon was quite a piece of work. He was very controlling, talked down to, and ever degraded Tamra. I don’t doubt for a minute that he turned Sydney against her mother.

          • Marcy Scrot

            I didn’t see that. I saw him call her on her tacky trollop behavior and drunken rages. I don’t think he had any idea she would behave like that for public to see. And with Vicki to pressure her to push the limits more and more, it was too much,

          • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

            Um … aren’t you supposed to be defending Tamra and I’M supposed to be defending Simon?

          • Mcouts

            I agree with you. And so did Jeana.

          • ohjeez

            Ok not how I see it

          • Mcouts

            Definitely some of that going on.

          • Mcouts

            At first I thought Simon was hard on Ryan, but I think he’d had enough of the spoiled brat with a sense of entitlement. Ryan kept blowing every opportunity and then ran crying to mommy. Simon had enough of it. It drove a wedge between them.

          • Dayle Hudson

            He was her sissy boy

    • Michele Bintliff

      I remember that scene and it seemed to me that Simon’s reaction was shock I think he really did love Tamra but she had enuf of his controling ways and I also think that if they stayed together he would still be on the show it wasn’t a problem until she left him

      • Marsbars09

        Gee Michele, I guess I’m not the only one who needs to get their spelling right.
        Enough, not “enuf”. And controlling is with two l’s, not one.
        Learn to get your spelling right before you criticize others, OK?

        • Michele Bintliff

          Gee misspelling someone’s name is different than misspelling a word as you can see my name has one “L” I have spent my life yes since kindergarten my teacher inserting a red “L” telling me I spell my name wrong problems with IRS bc my name is incorrect on my paycheck and W2s bc the person putting my name in the system screws it up buying homes bc the person typing the contract is insufficient bc they assume it’s 2 “L’s” mine is French feminine of Michael which has 1 “L” the other is English. That’s why I’m paticular about the spelling of someone’ s name and you are not the only one that spells her name incorrectly. Sorry if I offended you.

        • Mcouts

          Spelling counts on here?

      • PCpolice

        He really did love her and his family. He was devoted. As to your contention that he’d still be on the show, I beg to differ based on his actions throughout.
        He was uncomfortable with Tamra’s increasingly gross, lewd, vicious behaviors.
        He tried to get her to stop doing things like parading in lingerie in front of the other husbands, oh, and the entire world. He didn’t like her dick grabbing.
        He really tried to get Ryan on the right path. He was clearly uncomfortable in many scenes that Tamra appeared in. It was affecting the kids. The fame had gone to her head. He would’ve stopped or drastically cut back on his and his children’s appearances if he’d stayed. Alexis’s husband and others did the same. Had Simon been all about the fame, he could’ve continued drawing attention to himself to this day with social networking, having their kids appear with him in other things, but no, he chose less money, but more shelter.

        • Michele Bintliff

          Never said he was all about the fame nor implied it. He did continue to bash her majorly on social media after she didn’t want him anymore bc he was controling and he lost that control. Not saying that I agree with Tamra’s behavior either and the few scenes that I recall with Simon and Ryan were painful IMO Simon was very condescending towards him. However I do agree if my child or children came to me and said what you are doing is hurting me pls stop I would have. Their son wants nothing to do with Simon and we don’t know all the grizzlies of their situation I’m neither pro Tamra nor Simon but if Your pro Simon bc of all the things you posted a good parent. DOES NOT I’LL SAY IT AGAIN DOES NOT BASH THE OTHER PARENT EVER ANYWHERE THAT THE CHILDREN CAN SEE HEAR OR BE TOLD ABOUT.

          • PCpolice

            Right, and that’s been Tamra. Simon’s only defended himself against vicious accusations through a worldwide audience. He has a right and responsibility as the breadwinner to publicly denouce lies straight from the horse’s mouth. She pushed his fiance to the point of no return as well. She finally had to defend herself. I’m sure Tamra wished she would’ve kept her mouth shut because what we learned was pretty bad. Even Tamra couldn’t prove otherwise. In regards to Spencer, we only have Tamra’s word. Simon hasn’t aired this to the world.
            We don’t know what’s true. We know what Sidney said about it.
            She said she hoped he’d learn before he’s too damaged.
            I understand what you’re saying about his talks with Ryan. They made me a bit uncomfortable, but weren’t living under the same roof with the able bodied adult male who was spinning out of control drinking, speeding, wanted to be a cop at one point but changed his mind due to the number of tickets they were writing. He didn’t live a charmed life. He was also subjected to a broken home. Had a single Tamra before she met Simon at which time he gave them both security, a nice roof over their heads, all that’s needed to raise.
            He took this on. Tamra was home raising kids as their family grew.

    • PCpolice

      Yep, I remember clearly. She was chewing her gum fast and furiously, wore loud dangling earrings and a too short black dress. She’s a nasty in every sense woman.

    • ‘Chez Rose

      That scene in the back of the limo, I screamed thank god! I’d felt terrible for her up to that point. He called her names, put her down, told her what to wear, tried to force her to be his ideal wife, he stifled her. Was very nasty and controlling to both her and Ryan, I honestly feel if Ryan was his son instead of just hers he’d of been so much nicer to him. Would never have treated him so badly

  • Bad Barbie

    We all already knew that. Kelly told no lies and Kelly was not speaking about Sydney but we too agree that no wonder Sydney wants no parts of her mother.

    • ‘Chez Rose

      Saying no wonder her daughter wants nothing to do with her, is still speaking about Sydney

  • HappyGirl!!

    We see how awful Tamra is on the show!! Couldn’t imagine having her as a mother!! Something tells me as a narcissist she would see her daughter as competition!! My mother was/is a narcissist the only thing you can do is cut them out of your life. They never see the fault in themselves so they never change! Its emotionally draining to try and maintain a relationship with a narcissist!!

  • Bryan

    This is so typical of white trash, they allow their relationships with their children to suffer, usually for another man or woman, but in this case its reality television.

    • BetteDavisEyez1

      So true. The child is crying out “you’re hurting me!! I can’t take it!!” And they get back “shut up, hand me another can of beer before I throw my flip flop at your face!!”

      • Bryan

        Well said!!!!

        • BetteDavisEyez1

          TY, dear. It is heartbreaking to witness. Imagine being the actual person going thru it…
          OT: We took our Merlot to the restaurant, had salmon & drank the whole bottle. We left the place & got a 5th to make some frozen margaritas… Needless to say, I’m just getting over it today. SMDH

          • Bryan

            Sounds like a good time to me!!!!

          • BetteDavisEyez1

            … And that is why you are my peoples. LMAO!!

          • Bryan

            =), thank you!

    • BooBooBaby

      Really!? White trash!?
      Why do you have to bring up race!? All races have good and bad people! But, White trash!?
      Do you also say Black ghe++0 garbage!? You see what I mean!?

      • Bryan

        I’m sorry I cannot be bothered with your faux indignation aslo I cannot be bothered if you are offended. its just a waste of my time, now go bother someone else toots

        • Dayle Hudson

          Learn how to spell idiot

          • Bryan

            Fuck off worthless cunt

          • Dayle Hudson

            I’m sorry. I must have been- -m upset from all this going back and forth. Back here a day later and read what I typed to you. Please forgive me.😥

          • ‘Chez Rose

            Unless he came back and edited, there is nothing wrong with his spelling

  • Marsbars09

    I’ve always known Trashbox preferred reality TV fame over the well-being of her children. The “torment” Tamara is going through now is by her own decisions. Sidney had made it very clear where she stands but Tamara refuses to acknowledge it.

    • Michele Bintliff

      Tamra…..not Tamara wish people would get it right

      • John Henry Dill

        Why, you clearly understood who we are talking about. This is not academia, it’s a reality TV blog

        • Marsbars09

          I concur.

      • Marsbars09

        Oh get your panties out from the bunch! This is a blog where people let loose and have fun. If you’re not here to do that you need to get off the thread!

      • Bryan

        dirty whore is better

      • Didn’t she go by Tammy before Bravo?

        Tammy Sue

        She spells her name wrong Michele. Mars can’t help it.

      • Hollandreality

        Who the F*CK cares…

        • Michele Bintliff

          You apparently

  • John Henry Dill

    First of all, she starts off saying, she was made aware. Which means her father told her.

    It was perfectly OK for them to all be on Trashy TV while she was married to Simon. It is her major source of income. Without it, she would not have been able to get a divorce. She would have been forced to remain in an abusive relationship, as so many when are who are financially dependant on their abusive husband.

    Tamera has gone out of her way not to mention her kids or make them her storyline. That’s why she freaked out on Kelly. Kelly is aware of what the rules are with her daughter, she told her. But true to her nature, Kelly likes to use information shared with her to hit below the belt when she wants to inflict pain.

    I’m proud of Tamera how she has refrained all season from reacting to Kelly’s vile behavior. I don’t blame her for going off, considering Kelly is aware Tamera have five everything she can to keep her kids out of her storyline.

    As stated, Simon was perfectly fine with RHOC when he was in it. Now that they are divorced, now it’s trashy… Got it!

    • patty

      This is true. She’ll turn on Simon eventually. Like her or not, I don’t see Tamra as mentally/verbally abusive as a mother. Her other 3 seem to love her.

      • We have not seen her parenting the other 3 in years, thanks to Simon.

        And smiles in photos don’t prove anything.

        Why would you say Sidney “will turn” on Simon? Drawing reasonable boundaries is not betraying someone. Sidney sounds like a reasonable young woman who made a mature, rational choice. Tamra continues to violate her child’s wishes. She is exploiting her daughter after being told repeatedly not to. Why should that kind of behavior be tolerated?

        Tamra is the one that turns on people, specifically, her child. Choosing fame and personal interests over your child is the epitome of betrayal.

    • bingo32

      Wow- seems to me you have a lot of anomosity for Simon & r using Sidney as the weapon. You start by making the leap her father told her about the reunion. Nothing in her post suggests that; it could have been a friend.
      Secondly, what Simon thinks about the show being trashy or not is irrelevant. Sidney, like any normal teenage girl did not want her mother acting like a whore on tv or talking about her.
      Thirdly, Tamra should have directed her anger at Shannon. Kelly’s flippant remark was in reaction to Tamra and Tamra making up stories to Heather. This was the same Tamra who called Vicki a bully for ‘threatening” Shannon with revealing her secrets and expressed how wrong that is. So she turns around and does it to Kelly. Huh?
      Shannon, KNEW, it would inflame Tamra so why the heck would she go repeat it? Shannon has a mean girl streak in her that she thinks she is hiding. Kelly did not deserve the wrath of Tamra at that juncture.
      Whilst you may be proud of Tamra this season, I see her as same old, same old shit stirrer. That is nothing to be proud of IMO.
      What does Simon’s opinion of the show have to do with a 17yo girl expressing her distrust and dislike of her mother’s antics?

      There is something very non maternal about Tamra that she would put the show ahead of her daughter. Obviously her ‘pain’ is not as deep as she would like peeps to believe.. But then again it seems to fall under that pesky heading of distrust her daughter mentions.

      • John Henry Dill

        First of all, I don’t really care what you think of my comments. Let’s be clear about that!
        We watched the same show and took away different opinions, that’s life.
        Started to explain why I mentioned Simon, but nah, you do not deserve an explanation from me.
        Bye Felicia!!

    • PCpolice

      Man, I don’t know what show you’re watching, because Tamra regularly mentions Simon and his “manipulative ways” while placing 100% blame on him for Sydney’s mature (almost 18) decisions. She’d warned her mother for 2-3yrs prior to that.
      As you can see, she was finally fed up with her mother’s antics to millions, so Sydney reached out to as many to defend herself. Tamra sobs (academy award style) when speaking of her daughter even though her daughter’s PLEADED with her to stop.

      As for making the giant leap that it had to have been Simon who alerted her 17yr old self of her mother’s latest actions to date, you must understand hat she herself has defenders, followers, friends, schoolmates and other family members who would warn her. Seriously, she didn’t need her father to learn this. At that point (counseling, et al), the last thing Simon would do is lead his 17yr old daughter. He’s not stupid.

      Lastly, as for your assertion that Simon was just fine with it when he was a part of the show, no, he absolutely wasn’t. He had to reign her in on many occasions. He was unsuccessful at times, but he tried. He tried to keep her from parading around in lingerie in front of the world and the other husbands. He tried to keep her from grabbing at his junk while boating. He tried to lead Ryan in the right direction, but Tamra sabotaged his efforts. The marriage ended due to Tamra’s disdain of this very “control”. He was trying to save his children from shame, his wife from shame, him from shame while losing credibility in his chosen profession. Tamra’s stated on numerous occasions that if she had it to do all over again, she would’ve worked on their marriage and stayed.
      That’s about all for now.

      • Great post. Awesome analysis.

        Like you said, Sidney’s issues with Tamra are completely understandable, and very specific. Her affidavit outlines some very troubling behavior — leaving Sidney alone to care for her siblings constantly, not providing basic things like food. There were even issues about Sidney’s health that Tamra refused to address.

        Blaming Simon is a cop out. Tamra is just adding another insult to injury. She is basically invalidating Sidney’s feelings, saying that she isn’t strong enough to formulate her own, independent views and is nothing but a pawn.

        And like you said, Simon was constantly trying to protect himself and his kids from the backlash Tamra’s actions caused. I remember when they had a party with the kids at their home. And Tamra was talking about “teabagging” with the kids present. Simon, naturally, begged her to stop. And of course, Tamra was angry. She was filled with resentment and bitterness, painted him as a monster. When in fact, her was simply an adult who was truly concerned about his kids.

        Remember when he got fired from his job b/c of several customers at the Mercedes dealership were upset with their association with Bravo and Tamra’s trashy, over-sexualized behavior on camera?

        • PCpolice

          Great post yourself! You said it better! Yes, I remember hearing that as being the reason for his job loss with Mercedes. Totally believable. With an upscale clientele, a few wouldn’t want to be associated with anything related to the show. She demonized that man without mercy going as far as accusing him of throwing a dog leash at her, and having him arrested and cuffed right in front of their small children.
          Unfortunately these types of things are increasingly becoming a method of manipulating child custody arrangements, and destroying the character of the ex. This is one of the most egregious things she’s done. Simon had this to say:
          “There are a lot of rumors and speculation about the events of September 20th. I am confident and have faith that the truth will come out in the courts instead of the media. This incident was a setup by my ex-wife and she is already using it to make a claim for 100% custody of our children. It stems primarily from me refusing permission for our children to be filmed on her reality show, ‘Real Housewives of Orange County”. Of course the District Attorney’s office chose not to file charges due to lack of evidence.
          This didn’t stop Tamra though. She filed two restraining orders to make his life hell. Even though charges were dropped (not by her), she took out a temp restraining order that also forced him to surrender his firearm (he enjoyed target shooting & she knew it).
          She also tried to file another restraining order that would’ve prevented him from having any contact with his kids.
          Luckily the courts rejected it. Can you believe she would be so nasty, hateful and manipulative to deny her kids their father, their father his kids? Of course we can, because that’s what Tamra is–trash

    • Cat

      Tamra was a major asshole to Simon.

      • BooBooBaby

        Simon was a major ASSHOLE to Tamra!
        Simon also acts like this at work! I know of people that used to work with him….they said he was God Awful! I believe it! He is just a Nasty Person all around!

        • Cat

          it takes two.

        • Cat

          Without hearsay one can glean the truth themselves watching the show. Discussing your marriage with your bestie on camera and throwing him down is not okay. Not for him, her, the kids, etc. Watching the show you can see their marriage was off of the rails and you could actually see her being extremely unkind. She called him and “asshole” and told him she wanted a divorce on camera. That is the father of your children. I’m not saying he is a saint, I don’t know him, but if a relationship get that toxic, it’s BOTH of them.
          I live in a small affluent town on the east coast. In this fish bowl I divorced and had to put duct tape over my mouth about my former husband FOR MY KIDS. I didn’t date again for a WHILE in order to make sure they were balanced and okay with all of the changes first. Nope, no public hot tubs for this Mommy. Would have been more than self absorbed. Eh??? 😉

    • Private

      I agree Simon was horrible to her.

      • Dayle Hudson

        How do you know this?

        • ‘Chez Rose

          We watched the show, he spoke to her like crap and treated Her terribly. He seemed to be extremely mentally abusive

  • Happylazymartha

    The fact that she mentions her faith and her @$$ in the same line pretty much sums her up

    • Marsbars09

      Trashy! 😅

    • Hollandreality

      It’s absolutly gross…She is using Jesus…:(

  • Anica1

    Tamra is and will always be a lying, insecure idiot!

    • Marsbars09

      I called her an a-hole.

  • AnEnigmaWrappedIn$nark

    Tamra’s idiot indoctrinated daughter needs to start her own show with Rosie O’Donnells (mentally disturbed) 17 yr. old snot.

  • Elle

    FACT: exactly my opinion! Poor Sidney! If Tamara wants to be a fake trashy fame ho (now in Jesus name)..fine! But to drag her kids into this mix? Poor parenting.
    Tamara is a narcissistic 💩Stirrer. GROW THE F UP!

    • “Now in Jesus name” bwahahahaha!!!!

      • Dayle Hudson

        No kkdding

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  • BetteDavisEyez1

    How hard is it for Tamra to grant her daughter’s wishes?!? Even if she chooses to remain on the show, why does she have to keep using Sidney to gain sympathy?!?
    No one likes her because of her disgusting personality & using her estranged daughter isn’t going to change anyone’s opinion of her. So she should just quit it.
    I have to be honest, I don’t think I’d want anything to do with this creature if she were my mother either.

  • Marcy Scrot

    It’s amazing how much Sidney looks like Simon. I’m glad she’s staying away from that toxic situation

  • Benny

    I think that Tamra needs therapy in the worst way..imagine being a teenager and your mom is on TV acting like a porn star, talking trash and talking about “anal sex”, not to mention Tamra’s gutter mouth. No wonder she doesn’t want to be around Tamra!

    • Elle

      It’s really disgusting and not funny at all! I’m not sure why she thinks it is. She acts like an irresponsible child. And, lets also point out her son, Ryan is no gem! At BEST he is emotionally abusing his wife but I highly suspect she is also physically abused by Ryan.

  • Cat

    Poor girl had to see her mom getting it on in the hot tub with Eddie before ink dried on any divorce papers. Can’t even imagine her public humiliation.

  • Btheladyinred

    If she has nothing to do with her Mom why would she even watch anything to do with that show?? And to watch the reunion of all things, she put all that on herself. Just ignore it and be done.

    • PCpolice

      I fail to understand how anyone could blame a child for her mother’s misdeeds.
      It’s not like this is a regular mom, Tamra reaches MILLIONS when she talks.
      Sidney doesn’t even have to watch to know what her mother’s saying.
      It’s on the covers of gossip mags at store checkouts. It’s shown in previews weeks before it’s aired. Her classmates know. Do you think these classmates that know Sidney’s Tamra’s daughter, don’t tell her, don’t talk about it?
      Sidney has extended family as well–cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents.
      She like most teens have at least one social media account. Cruel posters tell her all about it. Sidney’s a VICTIM.

      • Elle

        Agree PC 💯!

        • PCpolice

          : )

      • Btheladyinred

        Why is her daughter watching the show??? I don’t blame her I blame her Dad for that. Oh please. These are kids and young teens. The parents are in charge of what they watch not them. My kid at this age wasn’t concerned about reality TV. It’s the adults who allow this. Get real. Parents have the ability to tell their kids to shut up and turn it off. Apparently Tamera isn’t the only parent messing up. I also didn’t allow my kid to be watching nonsense online. It’s Sidney’s Dad’s responsibility to tell his daughter NO, this isn’t something you need to see. I’m not blaming the kid, I am blaming parents and you just proved my point by saying all these people will watch and tell her. Who is in control? If your kid is watching crap either on TV or their phone!!! Take it away from them. n

        • PCpolice

          !. We don’t know which shows Sidney’s watching if any.
          2. As stated, info on her mom’s shenanigans is everywhere. A million+ audience is treated to them. Sidney doesn’t live in a bubble surrounded by styrofoam, mandatory earplugs, never allowed to leave home. She couldn’t even escape the coverage at the grocery store.
          3. She’s recognizable. Any ardent fan would know who she is recognize thanks to her mother.
          4. Her classmates would know, would tell.
          5. I don’t know about you, but if I was estranged from my mother for this reason, continuing to talk about me and blame my father, as a teen, I’d most certainly watch to see if she was doing what needed to be done to resume a relationship.
          6. She’s not 5, 6 or even 10yrs old. She was around the age of 14 when this began, 17 when she learned she was being talked about STILL. This is not Sidney’s fault in any shape or form. It solely sits on Tamra’s shoulders. Any psychiatrist, any mental health professional worth their title would tell you the same.
          Simon’s not forcing Tamra to talk either. IT’S ON TAMRA

          • Btheladyinred

            She said she watched the reunion… Again I don’t give a crap about her. But she isn’t 18 and her parents are in charge of her and what she posts not her. She lives with her DAD. It’s on him as to what she does online and what she watches until she is 18! You seem to think he has nothing to do with her. Until she is 18 she is the responsibility of both her parents. If he allows her to do what ever she wants and post whatever she wants HE is putting her in a bad situation also. Both these parents have failed her..BOTH!!

          • PCpolice

            Which I covered in #5
            “5. I don’t know about you, but if I was estranged from my mother for this reason, continuing to talk about me and blaming my father, as a teen, I’d most certainly watch to see if she was doing what needed to be done to resume a relationship.”
            With the exception of imprisoning your child, never allowing them to step foot outside of the home, there’s ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO PREVENT THEM FROM WATCHING a television show. I don’t know or care where she watched any of the episodes. The point is, Simon, or any other attentive parent for that matter, isn’t going to DEMAND of that their teen that they don’t watch a SHOW REACHING MILLIONS, when THEY’RE THE SUBJECT..I’m quite sure he
            recommended she not, probably disallowed the viewing under their roof, but once you’re 14+, you cannot control other households, other’s computers, other’s smartphones where one can view it all in this information age. Unfortunately, you can’t even prevent a a child from viewing online porn.
            Blaming Sidney is so wrong on so many levels, it’s not even funny, it’s sad. #InHerShoes

      • marci wilson

        Tamra as a MOTHER should put her CHILD not her ASS first!!! Climb out of Heather, Terry, & whoever her “other husband” is & see her daughter needs her! Who cares how many others she reaches? She is here to take care of her own God given CHILDREN! The other thousands or even millions of us matters NONE! Personally I won’t feel comfortable standing before God & answering, ….”Well Tamra Barney, Judge said….” I would expect MY GOD to say, “WHO???!!!” & even if she did ‘reach’ others is she really SPREADING GOD OR JESUS MSG’S? I say NO!!!!!

        • Jacquie Mcevoy

          Is English your first language ? Proof that schools are failing..

          • marci wilson

            Ok FIRST I AM A CHRISTIAN WOMAN & HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ANOTHER! I am sorry for that!!! 2nd, I get a lil hot under the collar watching these shows. They’re simply entertainment & I seriously am sorry if I offended anyone!! Peace, & God Bless!!!

  • Gemini

    I’m no Tamra fan AT ALL but I suspect Sidney is no perfect angel either. I think therapy would’ve been good even if she was almost 18.

    • PCpolice

      Sidney was a child as these things were occurred. Tamra’s an adult. Mothers are suppose to SHIELD their children from those seeking to harm. In Sidney’s case, Tamra’s the perpetrator. Proof is in her own words reaching millions, her postings.
      She won’t stop talking about it. She won’t stop talking about Sidney’s father, bringing negativity into his life. It’s disgusting

      • Gemini

        Yeah like I said I’m no Tamra fan. Preaching to the choir here.

    • Private

      I agree she sounds heavily influenced by her dad and very ungrateful. Just my opinion from other things I saw on her dad’s twitter feed.

      • marci wilson

        I SEE U “Private” seem to be missing Ur own life following this BS!!!! Baby get a life, …look up from the screen & then maybe look at reality REAL LIFE!!!!

        • Emily Hopf

          That was rude.

          • marci wilson

            I have a very boring life of my own & really/still no time to speak for some fame Ho that will never give U the time to say THANK U for trying to defend me when there is no excuse!! Good day & God BLESS!!! BTW; No need for name calling or education challenges! I’m way GROWN & OVER IT!! GET A LIFE! SHE WONT CARE!

        • Private

          I could say the same to you dear considering you just wasted a minute of your life typing such an unnecessary and immature response.

          • Deena Woolfitt

            We all bring our children up differently and a lot depends on our own childhood experiences as well as look for out side help when we are unsure of how to cope with a situation etc. We all forget that EVERYONE makes mistakes and unfortunately there will always be others that judge you negatively. I truly believe that Tamra honestly tried her best being a good mum with all her kids and yes she has done things that others will condemn her for but I see a woman trying to learn to be a better person and make up for past indiscretions and she has searched throughout her life to feel loved and special and looking in the wrong places. Getting drunk acting impulsively and by telling people what others say about them is her way of trying to be a good friend. Her intentions are to be a better person and at the same time doing so in the public eye where there are many people who don’t look past a persons actions and why they are that way and just judge and find fault. She needs forgiveness and unconditional love and to feel deserving of those things. She has found what she needs by turning to god and letting him take on her burdens and past hurts and I truly believe she means it and it comes from her heart. She’s made wrong choices and done things she regrets but when she truly, took god into her heart she let go of all the pain of the past and is now living in the present with jesus in her heart. If the bible says that jesus suffered and died so that everyone who truly asks for forgiveness of all their sins and mean it that they will be forgiven and find their place with god in heaven upon death. She like many others need to have that faith in their lives to go on. I hope she finds everything she needs in her life through god and her faith and we must step back and give her a chance to show us that she is saved and that her future choices are going to reflect that. She will make mistakes but it’s what she does to correct or put right her bad choices. Not everyone needs a belief in spiritual beings like god or Jesus or Buddha or any other dieties and religions. Others choose Wiccan or become light workers. If she really needs to believe she is saved and forgiven and by being baptised she is cleansed with the blood of Jesus then who are we to say that’s wrong?! Let’s just give her a chance to make the best out of her life from now on and not be so quick to knock her down and berate her because she deserves like us all to change for the better. No one is perfect and instead of picking all the negative things in someone we need to be open to see the positive. Be kind to others, be respectful and do what you can to be a better person. Accept that others have different beliefs and ways of life from you and that in the end no one knows what is waiting for us after we die but if believing in a god, a creator with love and light and forgiveness and compassion then we are all on the right path to the good wonderful place some call heaven. Try to be better everyday and help others by sharing your compassion and forgiveness because we all are human and we all have to live on this planet together regardless of colour or religion or lifestyle. Accept our differences and try to make the world a good place to bring our children into.

      • marci wilson

        Private, I really wasn’t trying to offend U! BTW! I’m sorry if it did sweets!! No harm intended!!! I simply disagree with Ur opinion.

  • Indy

    OK. After reading the contentious debate below, I became intrigued by Simon’s “25” year old girlfriend and looked her up. She is 35, not 25. 🙄 Like it really matters at this point.

  • Hollandreality

    If it was my daughter I would do absolutly anything to get her back, I would even stop the show and never ever show up on social media again, take care of my kids and husband and live happy private so I can see my daughters grow up….But then again this is whore tamra she does anything for fame and money…

    • Private

      But at the same time just for objectivity, is it really healthy to force yourself to be someone you aren’t? Even if we personally don’t like her behavior I can only see that hurting everyone in the long run. Some people just are loud and fame seeking that’s just who they are. Love is love you should just accept people for who they are.

      • Hollandreality

        Well I do understand why she would divorce Simon…But the thing is her daughter asked her over and over again to be more private on the show, but she loves drama, fame and attention…

        • Private

          Yeah I don’t agree with how she acts, but eh that’s just her some people are that way. Simon isn’t innocent either though he puts out on his Twitter all the details about his daughter’s lives and comments on Tamra. If I were him I would set that stuff to private and ignore the crap out of her considering all the press, but that’s just me I guess.

  • Private

    I don’t know I mean I totally get Sidney wanting to have her privacy but at the same time she sounds a bit like a brat. She should be grateful that 1) Her mom is alive and 2) That she wants to play an active role in her life. Many people are not lucky enough to have that.

    You can’t force someone to be what they aren’t and try to mold Tamra into a quiet timid housewife. If Tamra enjoys being on a reality show then whether we as viewers understand it or not that’s just the way it is. I can’t help but think this is heavily influenced by Symon because he always was controlling and tried to mold Tamra into how he wanted her to behave. I can’t say I am surprised that Tamra rebels after living with him for so many years. Hopefully Tamra and Sydney will find each out later in life.

    • Traveling Shelley

      I can see both sides. Kids can make you crazy. And, parents can make their teens crazy. Combined with a divorce it can be tough. What I witnessed is someone, who when they drink tends to lose their filter. When the ladies drink they say things they shouldn’t, which ignites other lowered filters. Someone should have just walked away..

      • suse

        You hit that nail. Teens and divorce do not mix. Havoc will most likely follow. However, most housewives make money by using their position on the show to sell something. Tamra makes money just being a shrew. That is embarrassing for any family member.

  • Mcouts

    Wouldn’t you be embarrassed if your mother was on a reality show and displayed inappropriate behaviour ? Long time viewers will remember how she used her son Ryan (her SON) to get Gretchen crap faced drunk and have Ryan come on to her. I haven’t liked her from then on. She is disgusting to ME, can u imagine how her daughter feels?

    • PCpolice

      I remember that well. Tamra set out to get Gretchen “naked drunk” for her own son’s enjoyment, and as a bonus, get her to cheat on her ill spouse. Tamra’s evil, imo

  • marci wilson

    If my daughter begging me to BE A MOM didn’t do it for me, …my GRANDCHILD taking her 1st steps being missed MIGHT make me care less about some other chic “talking about me” might not matter! R U IN SCHOOL STILL??????!!!! DAMN! Make Ryan carry his ownballs, be a Mother & I’m going to go beg God to forgive me for judging you!

  • Emily Hopf

    I can’t help but remember how Tamra treated Alexis at that dinner at her gym..before it opened. Does anybody feel sorry for Tamra. Please, that woman is evil.

    • Malibu_Gurlie

      I always think back to the opening of her gym. She (TamRa) treated Alexis Belino like a POS she even attempted to pull her out of her chair. She’s disgusting

  • RonnieRIB

    TamRAH is a heaux…she will do ANYTHING for a buck…turn a trick…get jacked up on “stuff” for a storyline, ignore her kids, divorce her husband, turn on friends, and lie lie lie…#EvilBish

  • joeyr

    I can see why Sydney is embarrassed of Tamra. She dresses like a tramp and acts like one. When she dressed in a sexy lace thing and had a dildo hooked on herself she was the most disgusting thing I have seen. This is a woman who is a mother and her kids friends see these things. How humiliating for those poor kids. She would fit right in on the porn movies. You can be sexy but classy and this she will never be. There is nothing worse that an older woman trying to act like a 20 year old. Gross Grow up Tamra and act like a decent mother.

    • suse

      I agree. As I mentioned elsewhere, look at Gia Giudice! Her mother went to prison, her father is there now! She seems to be adjusted and happy. Tamra is a complete embarrassment.

  • Malibu_Gurlie

    If U tweet anything against Tamra she will immediately block you

  • suse

    Most kids get by with their parents on Bravo and — probably — get [popular] attention for it. Having gone through a divorce, in the beginning, it is normal for the kids to choose the side where they get away with the most (with the most cash/things) freedom, putting the parents against each other in a competition. It happens all the time and levels out as time goes on. The issue here is that Tamra is a foul-mouthed piece of trash. I mean look at Gia Giudice! Her mother went to prison (dad is there now) and she gets along fine. Tamra comes across [anyway] as a horrible crow. She goes from stirring the pot, to dumping it on the floor, to screaming at you because it’s YOUR fault. Then she takes the situation and spins it so that she is a victim. I could barely keep it together this season when she gave out advice or handed out (unsolicited) pearls of wisdom. Simon is no sweetheart and Spencer seems to think it’s better at Tamra’s. Tamra is just horrible – mother, friend . . . just say human being.