Kathryn Edwards Labels Eileen Davidson A Manipulator & Nails Her For “Browbeating” Lisa Vanderpump

Posted on Mar 31 2016 - 4:45pm by BeachSpin

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Kathryn Edwards has proven to be an interesting presence on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She is the one cast member who has remained on the outskirts of the Munch-Manipulation debate, one that has swallowed a season whole. She weighs in on her blog — about the Dubai drama that continues to roll on, as the season winds down.

Kathryn notes that Lisa Rinna tends to be a big talker, and probably used the word “enraged” a bit dramatically. Lisa chose the term to describe her feelings about Yolanda’s decision to lunch with Kim and Brandi, rather than to attend a cast dinner. Kathryn points out that Eileen tends to pick and choose, when it comes to interpreting Rinna’s choice of words.

“My questions is this: How does Eileen decide when Lisa R. is over-exaggerating and dramatic or when it’s real and honest? One minute it’s “big talk” coming from Lisa R. that’s pretty harmless, and the next minute it’s honesty and truth. Hell, I can’t tell. Lisa R. says Lisa V. is “directional” one minute and the next minute she calls her a “manipulator.” Clearly Eileen prefers the word manipulator because then she doesn’t look like the only “A-hole. Hmm, seems to me that there’s more than one manipulator in the group if those are the terms for handing out that label.”

Kathryn weighs in on just who to dared whisper the ‘M’ word first, and how Kyle fits into the dialogue.

“Lisa Rinna clearly introduced that word to the group. Why would Lisa V. want to take Kyle down if neither Kyle or Lisa V. have any guilt in where the word came from? I asked Kyle how that made her feel, because I didn’t really believe that was the case…”

“The bottom line for me is this: If Kyle is okay with it, then that’s up to her. I don’t want to determine friendships for others. If Kyle knows what it is and doesn’t have a problem, then it doesn’t concern me.”

Kathryn shares her observations about the dinner on the beach — sharing the closest to objective view, from anyone on the cast.

“It felt like an accosting to me once we were all seated and the conversation began. Lisa R. and Eileen came to dinner with nothing other than wanting to make Lisa V. fly the white flag. That’s how it felt sitting there. Munchausen Schmunchausen, manipulation/deflection, lies/apologies. It bothered me that Eileen and Lisa R. wanted to make such a big deal about something that Kyle had no issue with. Kyle said it, she said she didn’t care if Lisa V. made the comment to Rinna…Why isn’t that enough for them?”

“Problem is, it’s starting to feel like Eileen is brow beating Lisa V. for the elusive half-assed apology that she’s never going to get…and now it’s morphed into the fact that Lisa V. can’t or won’t apologize properly or even understands that she offended Eilee.”

Kathryn summarizes her take on the drama thus far.

“Lisa V. doesn’t see it the same way as Eileen does. Lisa V. isn’t apologizing for the “affair” word because she wasn’t trying to hurt Eileen. I do think it’s cultural…Certain words carry a bigger weight in different countries and cultures. I think Lisa V. used the “A” word without considering that it would be viewed as offensive to Eileen.”

“If Lisa V. was taking a pot shot at Eileen, then shame on Lisa V., but at this point I feel like Eileen has to let it go because they aren’t getting anywhere and it only feels destructive at this point. When do you stop asking for an apology that you’re not going to get? And when do you get over trying to make Lisa V. feel sorry for something that she isn’t sorry for?”

Kathryn pegs what fans are repeating, all over social media.

All of the talk about the subject has brought more attention to exactly what Eileen didn’t want discussed. Seems counter-productive in so many ways. This friendship is going to hell in a hand basket, and it doesn’t have to.”

Stay tuned — because according to Kathryn, the subject of who deserves to wear the chunkiest ‘manipulator’ necklace, is far from over. 

 

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  • chacha1

    Good for Katherine for seeing it as most of us viewers witnessed … Eileen had daggers shooting from her eyes if anyone wanted to be friendly with LVP ….. she even went so far as to suck up to Erika which is really creepy to get the gossip that Brandi is telling Erika …… that is what is really going on ……. Brandi is pissed at LVP and Bravo so what does she do, she lies and gossips with the big dirty gossip Yolanda (Brandi’s words) and then they all pow wow together to bring LVP down …..

    • RHONJ Fan

      Eileen has lost her mind. She’s going crazy over the fact she shared her affair with all of America. Now she’s manipulating everyone into confronting LVP over frivolous issues just so she can reintroduce the “non-apology” again. Eileen is sick.

      • Rubyish

        crazy Eileen she’s bringing more attention to her Affair than Lisa V ever did. also I find it hilarious how quickly a cheap necklace helped her forgive Brandi who called her a homewrecker and threw wine in her face! you could just see the wicked evil hate in her face in her rant toward lvp. no longer a fan of ED

        • bellota

          Probably because her cheap husband has to divert all funds to gambling debts and never buys her jewelry like Ken for Lisa. So Eileen got blinded by the unusual sensation of being gifted a bauble, no matter how cheap; Eileen has no taste, anyway. In hindsight, Lisa should have just given her a cast off of her own and that could have solved the whole problem.

      • chacha1

        And if Brandi didn’t throw wine in her face for being a cheater, no one would really know or care ….. but she bashes LVP, not the slug who started the whole issue last season … Especially when “Brandi of the Modest and Righteous” said she would never be friends with any one who cheats

        • EllaFitzbunbun

          Brandi of the Modest Tampon String.

    • TeaLuvR

      I agree. I think Kathryn has put a lot of thoughtful effort into her blogs ever since she joined the cast. She writes beautifully and I think she expresses herself better than she is able to do in person. She’s very observant and lays things out more objectively than the others because she has no beef with anyone like the others do.

      I think she is a straight shooter and although she’s made some rookie mistakes -I also think she’s brought some deep awareness regarding her fathers addiction/suicide and having compassion for those that suffer and showing that people are often misunderstood when they have a disability (in her case hearing loss). I hope she gets another season. I find her to be a breath of fresh air compared to the others and their nasty agendas.

      • ohjeez

        i like her too

        • SassyMcAsspants

          I’ve been on the fence in regards to Kathryn this whole season. Apparently I need to read her blog, because in writing, I love her.

  • RHONJ Fan

    In Eileen’s blog last week she defended Yolanda’s choice of friends and stated it was no one’s place to judge Yolanda’s choice of friends yet she’s judging Kyle for her friendship with LVP.

    • chacha1

      Eileen is nothing but a hypocrite home wrecker who got pregnant by a married man

      • RHONJ Fan

        She’s seems extremely haunted by her dirty deeds. She’s carrying on like she needs validation of the affair and for folks to comfort her.

        • Rubyish

          to me it takes a manipulator to get a married man to cheat, especially if that manipulator is married herself…..I’m referring to you whineleen…

          • RHONJ Fan

            Smart observation. I love this logic.

          • Trippinhhard

            LOL you are speaking the truth and in my book, if he was cheating to get you, he will cheat on you.. She acts like the type of woman that would put up with a cheater..

        • chacha1

          at the reunion she tried to validate herself by saying that Vinnie’s exwife says she is an awesome stepmother ….. I am sure that never happened, she may have contacted Eileen to thank her for taking that asshole gambler away from her life ….. and you can bet it was Eileen paying the child support … I will bet on that !!

          • Trippinhhard

            I think she might have said that, Eileen is an enabler and those kids, as well as her husband have no respect for her.. The ex can go out and find her a better man, because Vince is nothing short of a loser.., Eileen is looking to validate herself, marriage etc..
            Vinnie is definitely a cold fish..

          • RHONJ Fan

            Vinnie has a serious gambling problem. Don’t be surprised if you see them filing for divorce next season.

          • Trippinhhard

            I know that’s right, they show no emotions to each other.. They act like roommates that are sick of each other.. Eileen got what she deserves, nothing for a man..

          • chacha1

            and she is as mean as a rattlesnake, her, Yolanda, Lisa Rinna and Erika all deserve each other

          • Trippinhhard

            You are spot on Chacha, they all deserve each other..

          • RHONJ Fan

            Your version sounds way more plausible. That comment alone validates how desperate she is for people to accept her affair.

        • OhSnarkyMe

          Yes, and since it looks like her marriage is crap, she’s really looking for validation and justification

        • EllaFitzbunbun

          I think she’s headed for a rubber room post haste.

  • Trippinhhard

    Well someone else can see that Eileen is the puppet master and Lisa R is the back stabbing big ugly mouth bitch.. I thought she said she was her own woman.. Anywho I’m sick of every season everyone riding Lisa’s ass for her choice of words and the way she says she sorry.. Eileen didn’t ride Brandi’s ass and she called her a home wrecker and threw a drink in her face.. IJS
    I’m sick of these boring story lines.

    • chacha1

      I am also sick of all of them making fun of LVP’s accent … that is getting really old and the worse was when that old drunk Circus Monkey Kim Richards made fun of LVP on camera when LVP fainted on DWTS

      • EllaFitzbunbun

        I love the “circus monkey”!!!!

        • Trippinhhard

          I do to Ella they beat the horse to death, bring it back to life and beat it again…

      • Trippinhhard

        So true she can’t help that she has an accent and I definitely know what it feels like to be mocked about my voice.. My voice is deep, but I say say you jealous bec men love to hear me speak.. LOL. Lisa is farting back at those bitches with a wide open ass…ROTFLMAO

        • bellota

          I agree, and as a first gen immigrants to this country I can tell you, it gets really old really quick when people, especially people who are supposed friends, go over board joking or imitating your accent. Everyone has an accent and American accents can be funny, too. I get more defensive about my parents because theirs is thicker than mine, but it is annoying.

          • Trippinhhard

            I know that right, sometimes I just flat out ask them, tell me what you really want to say, bec what you’re saying to me, don’t mean shit..

    • chacha1

      How about when they were at a luncheon at LVP’s home on her birthday and LVP had just gotten the ponies and they all were making fun of LVP using and mocking her British accent … Eileen was right there to say “Oh yes, the Ponies” using LVP’s accent … I also loved how Ken Todd shut down Grandpa of the Munster House when he was getting on LisaV’s case. They all should take a lesson on class with cash Lisa and Ken … but instead they all are nothing but trash with cash

      • TeaLuvR

        I don’t know who the Eileen thinks she is. She doesn’t know LVP well enough to mock her like that and in her case we know it’s not been in fun. Woman’s got some balls as Yo would say!

      • EllaFitzbunbun

        They’re too blinded by envy to be able to recognize true class..

        • Trippinhhard

          They never will because their personal lives is a sham.. Lisa and Jen loves and respect each other..

      • Trippinhhard

        Thank you Chacha1 they pick out BS to have something to complain about… They all make my stomach churn. Kylie’s no better than the rest, she’s just trying hard to be liked and I still don’t like her.. I’m sick of these classless and jealous so called women…

  • ScrappieONE

    Whoa Katherine nailed it in her blog. I think I’m starting to really like this one.

    • chacha1

      I liked her when she stuck up for LVP when Erika was stabbing LVP in the back while they were being filmed….. I still cannot figure out why Erika was pissed at Katherine when the cameras were rolling and they knew it would be aired….

    • EllaFitzbunbun

      It’s a relief to have a new cast member with the courage to speak her mind and stand behind her convictions, rather than participate in the lameness of group-think just so that people will like her.

    • Aleggra

      Kathryn is a goner if we can believe the “sources.” 🎬

      • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

        I’m not sure she brought enough, but if I had to bet, I think they’ll give her another season. I think she and Brandi would get on well!

        • xxjacks

          I hope she is hello Erikgone because she wouldnt like Brandi because Brandi says the word c u next tuesday and she HATES that word…so bye Kats and hello Erika!

      • xxjacks

        Bye, see you next time.

  • TeaLuvR

    Regarding the lunch with Kathryn, Rinna and Kyle where they discussed the conversation (that was had months earlier) where Rinna said LVP wanted her to bring Kyle into it…throw Kyle under the bus etc..

    Kyle agreed with Rinna basically throwing LVP ‘under the bus’ feeding and fueling the paranoia of Rinna and Eileen -in the process giving them more information to use against LVP when they attacked her at dinner. Kathryn’s take on that incident in her blog really resonated with me:

    “Why would Lisa V. want to take Kyle down if neither Kyle or Lisa V. have any guilt in where the word came from? I asked Kyle how that made her feel, because I didn’t really believe that was the case…Could it have been a miscommunication? Then Kyle co-signed on it. OK…now I’m really confused. Do friends do this?”

  • Pandora403

    Bravo gave Kim Z. and the Manzos their own shows so why not give the fabulous LVP her own show? (not like Vanderpump Rules) Let’s see more of Lisa’s home life, her family and her real friends not these make-believe phonies who are on the show with her. Lisa does not need BH. The show needs her. I’m sick of the way she’s being treated these days. Let’s see how well the show does without her.

    • MidwestMiddie

      Don’t you think the RHBH will fail without Lisa VP? I do.

      • EllaFitzbunbun

        It will,l but considering the condition it’s in a the moment, that might be best. Lisa could have an entire show structured around her own fabulous life and the others could just fade away into obscurity where they belong.

        • MidwestMiddie

          I agree – 100%.

          • SassyMcAsspants

            I’m with ya. Kyle would be 1000% on the LVP friend bus then, lol, she’d get extra cloying, real quick.

      • itsjustme

        Of course it will and I, for one, wouldn’t be happier!

      • Pandora403

        I hinted at that in my last sentence but thinking about it some more I’d say “definitely.”

      • Aleggra

        Nah. She’s been on too long. We need new drama. We know all there is to know about LVP.

        • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

          Well not everything. There are those rumors, but I wouldn’t want to expose her. I mean, whatever flip her boat is none of my business.
          (.)(,)!

          • Aleggra

            Wouldn’t you like to see her set up the dummies on the show w/out them knowing? I would. Kyle & Kathryn are the only two that went out to dinner w/LVP & her butler at SUR after the Reunion. I can’t help but wonder if they ate steak w/that unknown brown sauce that all of the food comes with. Yuk. I’ve heard from friends it’s disgusting. It’s like a liquidy gravy w/a weird taste. But LVP won’t eat camel. I guess cows are okay, esp veal.

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            Hmm … you do make good points. While I don’t think she’s ever claimed to be vegetarian or vegan, eating animal meat at all does seem rather odd for an activist like LVP. I’m sure she must be under tremendous pressure to serving meat at her tourist traps.

          • Aleggra

            So true. Why one animal but not another? I’d never insult a culture that subsists on camels for everything. LVP could’ve least lied and said she was a vegan. As for her restaurants, they could have opened up Vegan ones. They’re all over the place in Hollywood. Again, goes to show where her priorities are 💰💸💵

            You make great points, too. Unfortunately, we’re in the minority. But that’s okay. We keep things lively 🎈🎉

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            Trying saying something negative about her on the other “tea” website and you’ll know what a personal attack is … and the mods are in on it.

      • OhSnarkyMe

        Unless they ca find someone else as fabulous as LVP, it won’t make it more than one season without her.

      • SassyMcAsspants

        Does it matter at this point? Lol

        • Aleggra

          LOL..good point! This Season has been one huge 💤

    • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

      LVP isn’t that relevant to the show; besides, really what is there to showcase? We’ve already seen her home, which is ok, but it is rather cold, sterile, and institutional (just like her). We’ve met her kids, but they’re as dull as dishwater. And that only leaves old and creepy Ken. Besides, she already has VP Tools where she’s right at home.

      • Aleggra

        LOL. I agree 100%. We’d all die of boredom.

        • xxjacks

          She really id boring and thats why she keeps adding animals to her home, so she (looks) interesting. She has no female friends because as she says ” im just not crazy about bitches” so why women like her and call her their queen and adore her makes no sense to me.

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            I’ve been saying that for years. It’s very telling that in seven years, we’ve never seen one girlfriend or even another couple that they’re friends with. I would speculate about her fans (royal subjects), but I think their odd worship-like posts speak for themselves.

          • xxjacks

            Its very weird they have no couples that are friends with them, Her fans/stans are crazy, nuts defending this fake queen as she despises them and they fall for it, hahaha on them. She is so fake and acts all woa is me, pity me, im always right and EVERONE is wrong is bs. Sadly they will find out,

          • OhSnarkyMe

            Why on earth would you assume they don’t have any friends? They simply have friends who don’t film for the show.

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            IKR? It’s really an interesting (and hilarious) study in human nature! When you see people with over 20 thousand comments, it kind of says it all. Just sayin’.

          • Aleggra

            I doubt LVP & butler-husband have many close friends. They seem to have acquaintances. We’re not even sure LVP has siblings. She never mentions them that I know of. All of the other long time & even newer HW talk about their parents, brothers, sisters. But not LVP. She’s a strange one. I have many UK friends & they love to talk about family so it’s not a cultural thing.

          • Chickpea16

            Just because friends are not shown on the show doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            Put down the kool-aid and slowly walk away … easy does it!

    • Aleggra

      Omg…more animals? And watching Ken carry Giggy around? No thank you.

      • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

        IKR? Using animals as props is so creepy.

    • JanMonte

      I would love that. Her home is darling, especially her animals.

  • OhSnarkyMe

    How the hell can Whineileen be offended by the word affair when she had an freaking affair? She was married, Vinnie the gambler was married and they had sex with each other. That’s an affair. Maybe Rinna needs to read the definition from Wikipedia for Eileen so she’ll realize the word was used appropriately. Geez!!!

    • RHONJ Fan

      Brilliant comment.

    • MidwestMiddie

      Yesterday nancysue was asking for new words describing Eileen’s
      “affair” to prevent upsetting her.

      I suggested – “Hanky-Panky”
      LOL

  • darknight

    The last couple episodes I’ve found myself slowly liking Kathryn more and more. She may not be over the top or crazy, but I’m enjoying what she’s bringing to the show.

  • My view

    Initially I was with Eileen and thought the way Lisa V quizzed her about the affair was insensitive; but as the episodes went by I started to sympathies less and less with Eileen, it feels like after the Hamptons embarrassment Elieen made it her mission to fire up Rinna against Lisa V.

    She seems to bring the affair up more than anyone else on the show for someone who wants the subject buried; in almost every sit down with Rinna – Elieen brings up the affair, Lunch as Lisa V’s house she brings up the affair; holiday in Dubai, she brings up the affair, it’s getting tiresome and boring after 18 episodes.

    I really don’t know what to make of Rinna; her attitude towards Yolanda is beyond irrational – Erika has no issue with Yolanda missing her dinner; nor does it seem is she upset that Yolanda spent the morning with Kim and Brandi – yet she’s making an issue out of

  • tibi

    If you don’t want to talk about it (1) Don’t do it and (2) Don’t tell everybody on National tv that you did it (3) If you have already done 1 and 2 then shut up about it and hope others will forget it. Jeeesh

  • bellaboo

    Im really pissed off at lisa r, but heres why i think shes angry that yo didnt go to erikas dinner. Yo chooses what event to go to, when everybody else HAS to go, prob according to their contract, so yo knew she had to go to erikas, but chose to go meet brandi, & kim, then “was too sick” to go to erikas. Its a matter of yo using her illness to do WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO, WHEN SHE WANTS TO DO IT, she USES her illness. So i do understand why lisa r was so pissed, because all the women are participating in everything, but yo uses lyme whenever she wants, & i wouldnt put it past her to do it on purpose just to show them shes in charge of her participation, as everybody else does what is scheduled, unless they have other work, etc,. Did i read somewhere that yo is in tahiti?? If so, why the hell didnt she go to dubai?? Once again she used lyme as an excuse. Its just another way of her being manipulative, at least thats what i think.

    She even filmed with brandi, & kim.

    I know yo is sick, but i do wonder if shes exagerating sometimes, oh & i do think shes going thru menopause, which will kick your ass, i know because im in the middle of all of the symptoms, hot flashes, pain, no energy, irritable, not eating healthy due to depression, & i could go on & on.

    She needs to own up to the menopause, but she never will, because it will take some spotlight off of lyme, her “journey”. Just look at how hateful she is, snapping at people, condescending, & going after lisa v, sending everybody the email that was written to kyle.

    I was so angry when i was watching them in dubai, because i wanted to see all the fabulousness, instead lisa r couldnt keep her mouth shut, & eileen was even worse, when she squealed at dinner because she thought she finally had lisa v right where she wanted her, but it only lasted a minute, because kyle had lisa v back, & that made me very happy, because i love watching kyle & lisa v together getting along, they make me laugh. Now next week is more arguing, & im sick of it. I tried to tweet eileen but she blocked me, but i managed to get some tweets out there, & tweeted lisa r to give her a piece of my mind. They are ruining the dubai trip!!!!

    • Aleggra

      Bethenny does the same thing on rhony using her daughter as an excuse. Plus, she gets paid the most. The difference is the NY women don’t care. They care about getting paid less but not about Bethenny not showing up for events. Rinna dislikes Kim & Brandi. She’s never said “boo” about Yo not showing up until Kim & Brandi were the reason.

    • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

      That’s so funny; I tweeted Eileen too! … and offered her all kinds of useful ammunition against LVP.

    • chacha1

      Yolanda had lunch with Brandi and Kim and then lied and told Erika she could not make the dinner because her brain was swelling because you can’t see a swollen brain when you have an invisible disease …… I wonder why the brain surgeon didn’t remove a part of the skull to relieve the pressure …. this fake ass moron keeps getting away with it and Bravo allows it

  • LuxLuxLux

    Eileen should know when to give up!
    LVP would be out of order with the
    questioning were it not for the fact that the affair had been a topic of
    conversation last season & Eileen seemed very proud of how she had
    handled the affair at the time (I think this was the reunion). If only
    LVP had chosen that moment to ask the questions because now it’s
    suddenly a no go topic!

  • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

    Kathryn has some nerve trying to throw the others under the bus when she through LVP under the bus at Yolanda’s gala. At least Rinna and Eileen have good reason to be cross with LVP this season whereas Kathryn is just clinging to whoever she thinks will benefit her the most.

    • Aleggra

      Kathryn knows she’s on the chopping block so she’s siding w/LVP hoping to stay on the show. In the meantime, Kyle knows all about LVP’s behind the scenes manipulations (I think LVP sent Kathryn to Erika’s house to ask her about LVP). But Kyle, just like she did with her monster mother, sticks her fingers in her ears and sings “La-la-la-la” so she can claim not knowing or caring what LVP does or says when the cameras aren’t rolling. This is Kyle’s way of dealing w/things that she doesn’t want to deal with. LVP = the ultimate 🕷

      • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

        Yes I agree; Kyle is apparently willing to sell her soul to the devil to remain in LVP’s good graces. She has after all experienced LVP’s cruelty first hand, and I guess she figures it just isn’t worth it. But then again, Kyle is THE ONLY person that LVP hasn’t alienated this season and maybe she was pressured by Bravo to keep LVP from bailing.

        • Aleggra

          I’m reading that Kyle might not be coming back. Even so, LVP will always find a newbie that thinks LVP will protect them. Despite rumors, I don’t think LVP has much power. But all the newbies think she does. Look at Kathryn. She’s crawled so far up LVP’s behind thinking LVP will help her stay on the show. LVP only protects herself. I think Kathryn is also on the chopping block. She’s kind of a dud, holding onto LVP’s fake eyelashes 😊

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            We must be receiving the same energy because I think Kyle is done as well. Between her stores, the hugely popular Celebrity Apprentice gig, and her new scripted show (that she’s also producing) I don’t see how she can possibly squeeze in RHOBH. Besides, she really did fly below the radar this season. After six seasons it’s mission accomplished and she sure as hell ain’t doing it for the check. On the other hand, I don’t see LVP walking way because I don’t think she’s done promoting her tourist traps or peddling her crap.

          • MaeMae Foto

            Kyle didn’t make it on Celebrity Apprentice and I don’t see her new scripted show going any where. I think it will be cancelled right away. Kyle is the queen of throwing people under the bus. She will come crawling, begging her what back toRHOBH just like Brandi and Kim are trying to.

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            I guess time will tell.

          • Aleggra

            Kyle didn’t make it? How embarrassing! Even Apprentice doesn’t want her 😃

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            *cover ears! Don’t spoil it! BTW, how do you know when Arnold fired her?

          • xxjacks

            Hi J-cab go to t m z asap. xxoo

          • Aleggra

            God, let’s hope you’re right! Can’t stand that LVP kiss a$$. Will Kathryn take Kyle’s place? Probably. She sure is willing. Has Kyle’s show been given the go-ahead? If so it’ll be a bunch of BS, mommy was so wonderful garbage. You’re right. LVP isn’t going anywhere. Too much free advertising. Money seems to be her best friend, filling all those voids in her life (indifferent children, no grandchildren, etc). Money is her blood life, poor thing 😀

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            Yes, even if and when Max ever breeds they won’t be blood grandchildren and I don’t know about Pandera; I assume she is adopted too?

          • Annielee

            go to t m z asap. kisses 😉

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            I’m just getting this three hours late:-( What thread and what did I miss?

          • Annielee

            t m z = b r a n d i & l e a n n m a k e u p

        • TeaLuvR

          LVP has tire tracks all over her head and body from the MANY times Kyle has thrown her under the bus including most recently in Dubai. I definitely agree that Kyle has sold her soul to the devil -as she will without hesitation, malign and betray a ‘friend’ because she has always wanted to be the HBIC. Thirsty thirsty thirsty Kyle. Cruely -how about participating in a ruthless gang up on one person (whom you are supposed to care about) TWICE. Just like the rest of her family -womans got major problems.

          • Aleggra

            I think real-talk can explain it better than I can: “Kyle [had a] sad and game-changing admission [in Dubai] that she has known all along that LVP was trying to drag her into the mud; that Kyle just wanted to enjoy LVP’s friendship and pretend it didn’t happen. Kyle essentially expects that this woman, supposedly one of her closest friends, is constantly trying to make her look like an A**hole. And she’s OK with that, as long as she doesn’t have to hear about it. Much like no matter how out F’d out of her mind Kim may be, Kyle chooses to believe [she’ll get] sober, because it’s easier and more enjoyable. Just as Kyle chooses to believe she had a mother who supported her acting and raised her to be strong and independent, even though her mother was actually just hor**ing her and her sisters out to the highest bidders.”

            This is exactly how I see Kyle’s relationship w/LVP. Mommie Dearest screaming, “NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!” while Kyle & Kim play w/their dolls on their bedroom floor, using tiny wire hangers for their dolly’s clothes knowing that Mommie will pass out anytime soon.

          • TeaLuvR

            Very imaginative -you should write a novel. Anyway we’ve not been watching the same show -agree to disagree :))

          • Aleggra

            LOL, I didn’t write that. I was quoting but I agree w/the writer. And yes, it’s fine to not agree on everything or anything. Not parroting each other makes commenting more interesting ❤️

          • TeaLuvR

            I agree 🎀

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            She’s been a total c*nt to Kyle and she and her creepy Ken rip her at every turn. But word on the street is they are both done with the show … so hallelujah!

          • Aleggra

            Wait. You mean LVP is done w/the show? Didn’t see that one coming. I think that if we were all privy to LVP’s behind the scenes goings-on, it would make great TV. But LVP would never allow that. And her cult would drop her like melting lava. But I’m sure LVP would get new fans. I’d love to see that side of her 😍

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            I call them ‘subjects’, because she is after all, the QUEEN!~ .. .but I think i like “cult” better! Lolol

          • Aleggra

            Someone else called her fans “Vanderfiles.” I like cult better. But “subjects” is great, too b/c she IS the Queen 👑

            (Just updated my iPad & going crazy w/the emoji’s)

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            You know people don’t believe me when I usually preface my comments with “I actually like Lisa V.”; I just don’t like (or know) THIS Lisa. Passive/Aggressive annoys me.

          • Aleggra

            Same here. I really liked LVP the first seasons. I found her funny & smart & charming. But when her true colors began to show, I began seeing a different LVP. In real life if I met anyone like her & saw what I’m seeing now, I’d run for the hills! I really hate backstabbers. b/c eventually, that knife will be in our backs. That’s what Kyle doesn’t get.

          • TeaLuvR

            Are we talking about Erika? I think we should get Kyle & Eileen a couple of her t-shirts.

          • JustNotCrazyAboutBitches

            TeaLuvr … the things you say!

          • TeaLuvR

            :)) 💗💗

      • MaeMae Foto

        Give me a break Vyle is queen of the spiders. SHe has thrown LVP under the bus on ALL the seasons. I wish LVP really would fight back and shut VYLE down. OH and by the way where are her Blogs not a one since February. Are there two sets of standards? One for LVP and one for little miss two face, spider queen VYle!

        • Aleggra

          If you mean the few times Kyle built up her courage and tried to get LVP to admit something like the time Kyle made LVP squirm over what Hadid said or didn’t say about his kids having Lyme? I can see how you might see that as “throwing LVP under the bus.” I don’t see it that way. I saw that as yes Kyle was attempting to get at LVP–kind of like a tiny scared mouse running out of its hole, rapidly taking a tiny bite at a big old cat’s paw & then scurrying back into its hole to munch on cheese out of anxiety. The last time I saw Kyle, she was a blubbering mess in Dubai, forgiving LVP for trying to use her. She reminded me of a child saying anything to stop her stern mother from punishing her. It was actually sad & I’m no Kyle lover or apologist. Not even close.

  • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

    I like Kathryn. She isn’t a sycophant. She tells it how she sees it and she was being honest at the Gala when she said “Vanderpump does it too” about Yolanda not wearing make up – LVP has openly said it in her TH that Yo should wear a bit of concealer so this isn’t a big betrayal here IMO. At least Kathryn has an opinion and addresses these things in her blog unlike Erika who seems to be lacking a few brain cells as well as a personality.

    • RonnieRIB

      Agreed. And now that Erica’s big daddy has legal issues….lol

  • RonnieRIB

    LOL she nailed that soap actress Eileen…I hope she does the same thing at the reunion…