Shocking! Erika Girardi Abandoned 3-Year Old To Seek Life of A Gold Digger In L.A.?

Posted on Mar 15 2016 - 11:02am by BeachSpin

Erika Girardi appeared on Heather McDonald’s “Juicy Scoop” Podcast last Thursday, and dished about her personal history, and how she landed on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Viewers have seen plenty of her Erika Jayne persona, but have only heard a few quips about her adult son, a police officer with the L.A.P.D. After listening to this podcast, I can see why.

Erika shares that she moved to NYC straight out of high school at 18, got married, and had a baby. She soon divorced and moved to L.A., evidently without her three-year-old son.

“I had my son there (NYC) and then I moved here (L.A.), when he was about 3.”

Erika Girardi-RHOBH

She describes telling her son’s father that she wanted to move to L.A. “to see what’s possible” for her, and that he had “no choice” but to agree. Seemingly, all was cool because her ex apparently maintained custody of their young son. Erika states that she moved to L.A. when she was almost 25, and dated Tom Girardi for a year before he proposed. She added that by that time, they were living together. When Heather asked if her son was with her during this period, Erika replied,

“No-he was in school in New York.”

Her son would have been between about five or six years old at this point, and strangely did not later attend his mother’s 1999 wedding ceremony. Erika also spilled more details about how she got together with her husband, and how her career got started. Erika reminded listeners that she was the aggressor with her grandhusband. Tom was a well-known patron in a restaurant bar, where Erika worked as a waitress.

“I told him I was single,” Erika said, “and gave him my number.”

Erika shares that her wedding was only attended by two witnesses. She  described her early married life as one of a lawyer’s wife, but after a few years had passed, she decided that she needed her own artistic career. Tom agreed, and evidently opened his wallet, to make it happen. Erika commented,

“I started with no limits, no rules.”

“I have at my fingertips the ability to create on my own terms.”

In other words, LOTS of cash, equals anything goes. Erika landed on the show after Yolanda suggested it, and apparently pitched the idea to producers.

By connecting dates and dots, it appears that Erika Girardi dumped her son to land a whale of a bank account, later choosing to become a performer, in luxury. Her timeline reads:

  • Age 18-1989: Erika moves to NYC.
  • 1995/96 (age 24-25): By now, Erika has been married, divorced, and has a 3 year old son, born in 1992.
  • 1995/96: Erika moves to L.A. — alone. She meets the well-known legal star, Tom Girardi, and after a year of serving him drinks, hits on him, and they become an item.
  • 1999: Erika and Tom get married, after dating for a year. Sometime during that year, Erika moved into his haunted mansion. Her son would have been around 7 years old, when his mother remarried.
  • 2007/age 35: Erika creates a gimmicky career, with her grandhusband’s wallet.

This is how it’s done, girls — Gold Digging 101, by the one and only, Erika Jayne. Erika had her eye on the prize, and probably did her son a favor, by leaving him behind.

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  • RonnieRIB

    ooh wee scolding hot tea!!! Not surprised at all…

    • Marsbars09

      X2!
      Hi Ronnie!

    • X3!!
      Hey boo! 🙂

  • Meghan

    First time on this site. I see it’s more an ‘opinion’ article than an unbiased article. Come on dude!!!

    • JustSayin

      By definition, blogs contain personal opinions. You will not find any unbiased reporting of real housewives, as they are not exactly CNN/BBC material. Welcome to the site =)

      • Marsbars09

        LOL! Love your response JS!

      • Meghan

        You’re right :).what got my goat I guess was bringing her child into it. He’s not part of the show and bringing up his childhood and he was abandoned just got to me I guess. As a mother, the WORST thing you can say about a woman is that she’s a bad mother. I didn’t like Kim or Brandi being called bad mothers either, because I don’t know that . And I don’t even like these ladies lol. They’re different on the show than real life, I’m sure
        Thank you for taking the time 🙂

        • JustSayin

          No problem, and now that you’ve explained your reasoning some, I totally get where you’re coming from. I’m sure her son has his own issues with her taking off and leaving him, and it must suck to have something that painful brought up and dragged through the reality tv gossip mud. Of course, Erika knew she had this skeleton in her closet when she signed up, but I understand and appreciate your compassion for her son.

          • Meghan

            Thank you 🙂 I tend to feel worse for the reality kids that are not even part of the show. They probably made a decision to not want to be involved and yet they get dragged! It’s fair game to talk about the HW because they willingly put themselves out there but it seems their family members can’t opt out even if they want to
            Thank you for understanding 🙂

        • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

          She brought him up. On the show and in this interview. Which leads to speculation. What sounds like a half-truth will always get attention, IRL for the average Joe and Jane and with “celebrities”.

          • Meghan

            you win ! Yay

        • SMDRN66

          While I respect that you don’t want to judge, I don’t know any alcoholic parent that was a good parent. I currently work in mental health and see the damage alcoholics can do. And I don’t know any good parents that post pictures of their children in their underwear, call them assholes in the media, talk about their son’s penis, and constantly get caught being a drunken hot mess making a fool of themselves on TV. From what I have seen with my own eyes and hear with my own ears, I think we can safely say that Kim and Brandi are not good mothers. Now to call someone a bad mother out of anger, I agree with you that is a horrible thing to say. Good parents always second guess themselves because they make it a point to put their children’s needs first.

          Sadly, when Kim didn’t think her voice could be picked up on Kimberly’s mic, she once again proved that it’s always all about her. Kimberly could be heard telling her that she was making it all about her again. “It’s always about you you you!”

          I don’t doubt that Kim and Brandi love their children. But being a good parent means putting your children’s needs (not wants) ahead of your own. It means being consistent. It means being a role model. It means providing a stable environment at all times. It means not bashing the other parent or if any step parents are involved. I think this is where Kim has done this well with her exes’ new wives. And being a parent, especially to minor children, means not drinking to the point of getting drunk. Social drinkers can abstain from drinking, but alcoholics cannot.

          • Nick’s daughter

            This comment is So well-stated, I wouldn’t change a single word. So, I’ll add 🔝➕💯 !! SMDRN66 I really like the way you think. I admire the way you expressed all of this. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

        • EllaFitzbunbun

          What do you mean you don’t know she’s a bad mother? How much more evidence do you need? If you’re posting a comment on a reality show site on a blog specific to a Housewives show you must either watch the shows or read about them and, in either case, you know that both of these women are mothers from hell.

    • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

      Even the Washington Post is biased. So is the Washington Times. What exactly do you read, dude?

  • whoopsie2

    I knew I didn’t like her. Now, I know why. What kind of a mother abandons their child? There is and was plenty of work in NYC. Actually the sight of this selfish b makes me sick.

    • Marsbars09

      I’ll never look at her the same way again.

      • whoopsie2

        She’s really the lowest of the low

    • Just a jersey girl

      A very selfish person. No good mother puts their needs before a three year old. This disgusts me.

    • I bet you money she knew about Tom before she moved to LA and hunted him down. She’s the real sniper from the side.

      • UndergroundExpress

        Lol. Then wrapped him up in her gold digging web

      • Jennymckitty

        Here is what I find interesting. It seems she has recounted the tale of how they met in several interviews. No where, even her Wiki page, does it give the name of the magical restaurant..club…whatever. She may have been gunning for Tom or she may have taken a job at a place where wealthy men were known to hang out. I wonder if it was an upscale strip club since it has never been mentioned.

        • OhSnarkyMe

          Oh you know she took a job in a place where there were rich men. I’ve always thought it was strip club. She’d fit right in.

          • Acetic_V_Gina

            Heidi Fleiss maybe?

        • BINGO! I think you nailed it, Jenny. She worked at some private gentlemen’s club (sex in the boom boom room) and set her long raggedy claws on Tom specifically.

          • Jennymckitty

            I’d never tried to find out more about Erika. She isn’t a big star but has been in entertainment for awhile with her Erika Jayne routine. Publicity usually plays a part in a venture like that. Her bios appear, to me, to be scrubbed. There isn’t a lot of facts or names. They sound purposefully vague. One article quoted her saying something about how she likes to spend her downtime with her family and animals. Have we ever seen a pet?

          • SassyMcAsspants

            She did have a dog in the one scene where she invited some of the ladies over to her house.

        • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

          I keep doing this! I just said that above!

          • Jennymckitty

            OK Foxy. Still haven’t found the name of the place where she worked. Her son moved from NY to CA in 2014. Also found out something about the ex but want to check it out myself.

          • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

            You are on the right track. Over on the other site someone found a FB page of a mixed race young man whose parents had totally different names. No Erika mentioned. He was also still in high school.

            O-O they went up and down the blog saying they’d found the son, when the kid is all over his social media playing soccer or something and looking for a college scholarship.

            I was like REALLY???

            I used to date a guy who moved to California and joined the LAPD. I’d sure call him but I’m sure he’s retired. I’m curious too!

          • Jennymckitty

            I only found a bit of info out but it reads way more credible than what is being reported on the other site.

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        Right. She didn’t happen upon him while working. I bet all the rich older attorneys hung out there. I’m beginning to think it was a Playboy club.

    • SMDRN66

      I’m not surprised. Erika always seemed to be about Erika. I joked and compared her to being a smarter Anna-Nicole Smith. She was able to lock down that money whereas Anna Nicole just took Old Man Marshall at his word not thinking his son would screw her over. But at least Anna-Nicole Smith was always about putting Daniel first. She didn’t want to marry him because she didn’t love him, but he promised to take care of her and Daniel for the rest of their lives. Yes, the drugs and the vultures around her did her in, but it was Daniel’s death that really killed her. I knew she would never recover from that.

    • Aleggra

      Erika never said she abandoned her child. She kept in close contact w/her ex and probably saw him much more than we know. Erika is very proud of her son & talks about him lovingly. He’s living in L.A. because he probably wants to be close to her. He could’ve gone anywhere. But he chose LA to be close to his mom. Does this sound like abandonment? If she had abandoned him, would she mention him at all?
      How many men abandon their children and never see them again? Ken Todd left his son w/his ex & moved across an ocean. Yet, no one claims he abandoned him because he didn’t.
      Don’t get taken in by exploitive tabloid stories that distort the truth. It’s what they do. They take a small piece of info and twist into lies. Why? Because people love reading the lies instead of the truth.

  • Jennymckitty

    Wow, Beach. You’ve been keeping busy. I didn’t even know Heather had a podcast. Am I the only adult who doesn’t have one? I’m surprised Erika revealed all of this. I assumed, listening to her speak of her son the infrequent times that she did, that she had raised her son. Did he ever live with her in CA? Did anyone else get the impression that she spoke of her son in a way that the other women would bond with her over motherhood?

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Jenny! I’ve always suspected Erika did not raise her son. There didn’t appear to be any motherly pride when she spoke of him.

      • Jennymckitty

        To me, Erika has a very dispassionate….almost cold…way of speaking so I never picked up on it. Her tone, inflection and cadence rarely change regardless of what she is talking about or what she may be feeling. She and Eileen seem to share this trait.

        • SassyMcAsspants

          Well, I suppose if she isn’t/wasn’t very maternal, maybe the kid was better off growing up with his dad.

        • teri keller

          Maybe. That’s she is referred as a stepford wife

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      She is very guarded and gives a lot of short answers. She says he lives “at home” now but when Heather asks if his friends knew about her videos in high school she said “I don’t think so. I think they might have found out in college”. But this is probably because most of her videos were only made in later years.

      • Jennymckitty

        She seems to not reveal much personal info in interviews or on the show. She is very guarded. It makes you wonder what else she is hiding.

    • teri keller

      Who’s Heather?

      • Jennymckitty

        Heather MacDonald. She was on Chelsea Handler’s show. She is a huge reality TV fan. She’s friends with OC girls and was in Tamara’s wedding.

        • teri keller

          Oh thank, I cant stand her

  • Marsbars09

    Now this is piping hot tea! Erika abandoned her baby boy to dig for gold on the West coast! Erika probably never wanted her son. Poor thing.
    I always had a suspicion Erika didn’t raise her son. I wonder what kind of relationship they have today?

  • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

    Great read Beach!! I listened to this podcast and was interested to see what others thought about it. Did you think Erika was very guarded about the wedding when Heather asked about the witnesses? And I think she told Heather they married in 2000 but both of their wiki pages say 1999. How could she get that wrong? I noticed that when she spoke about first dating Tom she said she knew “the kids” and his work colleagues as she had “worked for him” and then she corrected herself and said “served him”. I find it really odd that none of the kids were at the wedding.

    • Jennymckitty

      Hmmm…interesting, Beverly. So she would have become acquainted with his inner circle as a waitress?

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        She said he may have had some interest in the restaurant but was a regular there and she got to meet his kids and law partners. She really got her claws in there.

        • Jennymckitty

          That makes me more intrigued…especially after learning her exes current and past work history. I doubt Tom has it under his name. I imagine he utilizes corporations.

    • BeachSpin

      Thanks Beverly…I thought I only heard Heather say 2000…sort of referring to early married life…but I may have missed it. Didn’t Erika say on show that they had been married 16 yrs…that would have been in 2015. I decided to go with Google. I thought Erika seemed cold as usual, and she certainly skimmed over parts about her child IMO. I had to weed through all of Heather’s gushing butt-kissing, it was rough.

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        She did say 16 years but kind of went back and forth between 1999 and 2000 before saying “yes 2000”. It was very odd. I think Google is probably more reliable than Erika 😉 She seemed very guarded and humorless (again). I thought that about Heather and then I wondered if this is just her way of trying to get her guard down.

    • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

      I have read that she wasn’t even married, allegedly. Another HW rewriting history. Sooner or later the skeletons will fly out of the closet. Someone will tell or find something even old Grandpappy doesn’t know about. Heh. It never fails, with a HW. Especially the ones who want to play the villain.

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        That’s interesting Foxy because I was wondering the same…who gets mixed up on the year?

  • Why is this happening to us?

    So I guess our suspicions of her being a gold digging whore are true! Not surprised….

  • Just a jersey girl

    Wow great article. I just lost all respect for Erika. When you have a child guess what your needs come second, until that child becomes an adult. It is called being a mother.

    • madgranny

      The cu!&y shocking pink, of course, necklace says it all for me. And having a guy, gsy or straight, adjust your costume for your boobs or choochie, is just, ick. Do it yourself, diva.

      • FirstTimeCallerLongTimeListene

        I’m surprised EriCunty’s hand doesn’t get stuck when she pats the puss. I’m sure there’s some old gluey kind of stuff that’s been deposited there

        • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

          Hee hee!

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        I’m sure her son is quite proud of Mommy Dearest.

  • Trippinhhard

    She’s had a lot of plastic surgery, fillers and Botox… I just can’t understand people so young doing all these things to their faces… She didn’t raise her child and put her own selfish needs first.. Color me purple but kids comes first in your life.. But that’s just me..

  • Darris

    Get money b*tch!!

    She’s mentioned her son twice that I remember. I wonder how close they are.

    • Jennymckitty

      That is what I’d like to know, Darris. She mentioned it when she first met the women. Then Kyle said something like “You’ll like her. She’s a mother.” when describing her to ?maybe Rina…whoever…so they would think she wasn’t just her act.

      • Sounds to me that her son moved to LA as a young adult and Tom got him hooked up with the LAPD job.

        • CryWolf

          I would cash in on that favor too if I were him.

        • Jennymckitty

          Thanks, Seuss. I’ve been on a Google search since I read this and can’t find a site so far that has even her exes last name. I was going to call Meghan King Edmonds for help. Fortunately, you saved me from that.

          • SassyMcAsspants

            Anybody have an Ancestry account? Check for birth or marriage certificates. I, unfortunately, do not have free access to it anymore, boo!

  • HWjunkie

    Wow I just assumed that she raised him. I just couldn’t abandon any of my kids.

    • MidwestMiddie

      Same …….

    • CryWolf

      My mom did the same to me at the same age. You can bet that her son has feelings about it. No kid wants to grow up with their mother across the damn country.

      • I’m so sorry CryWolf….I know that left life long scars. 🙁

        • CryWolf

          Thank you. Yes, I can be quite the firecracker now in life. This woman is no enigma. She is about as basic as they come. She even admits she had no other reason for moving other than opportunity. She had no great job offer or family there. Nothing. Left her kid to become a STAR.

          • Spot on! She’s your classic wealthy man-hunter, who set her sites on a big fish. She’s gross in mu honest opinion.

          • teri keller

            Correction soft porn star

          • teri keller

            In the words of putrid james kennedy… basic bitch

      • Birdie

        BINGO…exactly.

      • Henni

        I’m so so sorry you had to endure that pain!

    • What kind of mother leaves a 3-yr old and moves across the country.

      • FirstTimeCallerLongTimeListene

        A terrible one!!! EriCunty and Yo H. Fraudster are two of a kind

  • kikid26

    Erika is a total fake. She tries to act like she’s some strong independent woman but clearly she is NOT! She is beholden to her husband and now, because of the show, the entire world knows it. I can’t even imagine a relationship like that. Like Kyle said, my husband doesn’t tell me what to do, ever. I respect and listen to him, we have a mutual respect for each other, but there is no big bossy pants BS like these two. They have a contract relationship, he’s the $$$ and she’s the @ss. Bet he drew up quite a pre-nup!

    • MidwestMiddie

      Erika is not a strong independent woman and the same goes for. Kyle.

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        No she’s not. She got a few credit cards taken away for trying to pretend to be a badass. Moor-it-zio is wearing all the pants in that family. STFU Byle! (I was screaming this at the tv)

        • MidwestMiddie

          I thought I heard you foxy.
          : )

        • teri keller

          Byle roflol the names yall come up with

    • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

      RIGHT!

  • Sky

    I found new promo pic of Cunty Jane.

  • I just saw this on Twitter and DIED!!!!!!! LMAO!!! *Refresh*

    https://twitter.com/Zzzzznoname/status/709777629230923776

    • TartLemon

      for some reason, I can’t read it. Please tell me what it says.

      • It’s a hilarious image…turn off your AD Blocker…LOL.

        • TartLemon

          My ad blockers are off, but still can’t figure it out.

          • That’s odd. Can you view normal images when people post them?

          • TartLemon

            Not always. I’ve added this and other sites to the ‘allow’ option on all the ad blockers.

          • Darn! it’s so funny and hysterically defines Erika’s supposed waitress job.

    • Jennymckitty

      I can finally see it! Funny.

      • The visual is a RIOT and totally reflects your theory, which I believe 100%.

    • TartLemon

      Okay, I figured out a way to see it. Thanks Seusseroo

    • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

      LMAO! Don’t you want me baby! I just want your moonnneyyyy!
      HAHAHA!!!

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      Hahahahahaha!!!!

  • MidwestMiddie

    Not all women are mother material and some fathers are more nurturing and loving toward their children than the kids mothers. Hopefully Erika’s son lucked out in the father department. He, also, may have wanted to live on the East Coast with his dad, friends and perhaps, other relatives.
    Who knows what kind of relationship she had and currently has with her son? Hopefully a decent one.
    Erika joined a Reality Show and should answer questions asked about her personal life but she should honor her son’s wishes and if he doesn’t want to be on Bravo or meet
    Bravo Andy, she needs to protect her son’s privacy regarding his childhood
    and current adult life.
    At least Erika never went the disturbing route Madonna has been on regarding her 15 year
    old son wanting to live with his father. Talk about ugly!!!

    • CryWolf

      He was 5. 5 year Olds don’t make big proclamations on which side of the country they want to live or choose parents. She up and abandoned him. He was barely in kindergarten. Let’s not dress this up in a sparkly outfit.

      • MidwestMiddie

        We certainly can’t say she abandoned her son since he was living with his father and we have no idea how much contact she had with her son.

        I have no idea where you came up with the bizarre comment
        – “Let’s not turn this up in a sparkly outfit.” Totally weird.

        • CryWolf

          I said “let’s not dress this up..”

          Lucky him, he had one good parent. His mother abandoned him.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Thanks. I stand corrected.
            “Let’s not dress this up in a sparkly outfit.”
            And, imo, it is a bizarre comment.

          • CryWolf

            Cool.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Yes, you are Cool!!!!
            : )

          • Birdie

            I loved the “sparkly outfit” reference…very Erika Jayne.

        • BHFan

          i don’t get that either, but I think it might be a pass on leaving her son, and we shouldn’t judge. I think I can have my own opinion

          • MidwestMiddie

            Absolutely!!
            : )

      • BHFan

        Finally, the voice of reason. We’re going to name her Mother of the Year next. She up and moved across the country, leaving her son with his dad, while she found herself a rich husband

      • teri keller

        Right

    • Well said, Middie!

      • MidwestMiddie

        Thanks, Doc!

    • Birdie

      That doesn’t change the fact that she moved 3000 miles away from him, to pursue a “career.” Most parents choose their children over fame. I doubt a three year old offered much of an opinion about where he wanted to live.

      • MidwestMiddie

        Ummm —- I never said a 3 year old may have offered his opinion regarding his care. YOU DID! : )
        Those decisions were made between his parents. My one line which is
        apparently giving you heartburn was written in general terms. Erika’s son may have been asked if he wanted to live in CA for his teen years or at various times but he chose to stay on the East Coast. Apparently he did choose CA at some point since he is a member of the LAPD.

        • Birdie

          Excuse me? My opinion was stated calmly, you are the one blowing a gasket. Nothing you say ever gives me “heartburn.” You need to CALMMM DOWWN–> **in my Ramona voice.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Whew!!! You’re excused!
            Happy to know you weren’t upset by anything I posted. : )

          • BHFan

            Lololol take a xanax per Ramona

        • BHFan

          Hmmm I wonder why she never said that

      • Birdie, you make a valid point here.

      • BHFan

        Great minds Birdie! I said much the same. I guess we’re congratulating her on moving to LA and leaving her son behind, like it was a noble thing to do

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        This is how I feel too. Even above, she made it sound like neither the child or her ex had any say in the matter. I think she’s an asshole, but, she speaks of her son as if they’re fine. So I guess it all worked out. Whatever, I don’t care enough about the tramp either way to give her any more energy. Just another Blabbi Trashville to me.
        🙂

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          What I don’t understand is that if she could give up on her “career” or dream to marry Tom and play the lawyer wife then why couldn’t she give up her dream for raise her child?

          • teri keller

            Oooo I hadn’t thought of that

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        ITA Birdie. She leaves her child to pursue her dream but she ended up shelving that for 10 years because she married a rich man – so was it really about chasing her dream career or was it just about chasing money?

    • BHFan

      He was very young. So, he voted and decided it would be okay for his mom to move across the country, and never send for him. She was/is no Madonna, and I agree. It must be quite difficult for Madonna when her son doesn’t want to live/visit her. Unfortunately, he’s old enough to decide on his own

    • FirstTimeCallerLongTimeListene

      Midwest Middie – You said he may have wanted to live on the East Coast with his father, friends and family. Right there in black and white

      • MidwestMiddie

        WOW ……. DID I SAY THAT? : )
        Why I sure did!!!
        I, also, explained the comment was used in a general sense because it appears Erika’s son lived his childhood and teen years on the East Coast. He may have been asked at different stages in his youth if he preferred living on the East coast to the West coast? At some point he did choose to move to California since he is in the LAPD.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      HI Midwest. I agree, not all women are cut out to be good mothers and some kids are most definitely better off living with dad. She has mentioned him on the show and the podcast so I wonder how much privacy he wants – her mentioning his profession in particular will certainly remove any anonymity he may have wanted to keep. I generally avoid talking about kids but he’s an adult now and I think it’s the same as Yo talking about Bella and Anwar – once the parents put it out there is becomes public fodder.

      • MidwestMiddie

        Erika’s son may still enjoy his privacy because so far we don’t know his
        first name or his surname, right? Or did I miss hearing his name? Also, there are over 10,000 LAPD members, so he may be hiding in plain sight. : )

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          There is another article quoting his name and also a pic of him in google images in uniform.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Thanks for the information.
            Sorry Dude ……No more hiding!
            Well, he is an adult and can handled it…….

    • teri keller

      I agree up to a point just not givingher any accolades for it

      • MidwestMiddie

        If Erika admitted she wasn’t mother material, then good for her and for
        her son. Does that count as an accolade? Not in my opinion …….just
        a good break for her kid. : )

  • CryWolf

    Some strip clubs are also resteraunts. We have a bunch in florida. Rachels. It’s also a steakhouse. It’s considered a nice place…for a strip club.

    • UndergroundExpress

      Like on Married to Medicine. “Do you want the fried chicken? ” Lol

      • BHFan

        Hahaha

  • TartLemon

    I’m not an Erika Girardi fan AT ALL, but I have to defend her a bit here. She left her son with his Father. Seems to me it was a good decision since her main focus has always been herself.

    • girlie1

      I totally agree. She seems very self-absorbed, and she’s proven she will do anything for money, including obey her grandfather/husband.

      • BHFan

        She is self-absorbed

    • Chloe

      I guess that’s one way to look at it. The father is better than foster care but you shouldn’t give her credit for abandoning her motherly duties for selfish reasons.

      • BHFan

        I agree

    • Jennymckitty

      Tart, I get what you are saying. I currently work with two women that were each left with their fathers while their mom’s went off to find themselves. One has no contact with her mom. The other has maintained sporadic contact with her mom…used to see or talk to her a few times a year. Both feel abandoned by their mom’s. Hopefully her son doesn’t. I just don’t look at this objectively as I see my friends’ hurt and seen how this has effected them.

      • BHFan

        I’m sure her son was better offer with his dad

    • Birdie

      I agree that his father was likely a better parent. But NO little boy wants to be separated from his mother. She should have stayed in the NYC area, although I m sure that blow-up doll careers probably are easier to come by in L.A.

      • BHFan

        Hahahahaha well said

      • teri keller

        No child,

    • BHFan

      For all those years? I don’t think he lived with her in LA. There is no mention that she brought him to CA to live with her once she got settled

      • DJ49

        Her son is a cop with the LAPD. He evidently moved to CA to be near her when he got older, so they must have a good relationship.

        • MidwestMiddie

          That’s my take on this ………..she may have left him with this father but kept in close touch with him and made it work. Hope so …….

      • Jennymckitty

        He came to LA in 2014.

  • RubyT

    Her tagline is perfect.

    • OhSnarkyMe

      Can we change enigma to enema?

      • BHFan

        Yes done! Lol. I don’t find her yo be a conundrum wrapped in cash. I find her to be the centuries old younger woman marries much older man for money. It’s a tired story. Nothing new here

        • OhSnarkyMe

          Exactly, a story as old as time. Why is she supposed to be so mysterious? We see you Slutty McCunty!

  • Chloe

    I’m not surprised. I pinned her as a gold digging whore day one. She’s very new money cheap looking.

    • BHFan

      Oh yes she’s a gold digger. For access to money, she needs a stylist.

      • teri keller

        Lol. Now that song gold digger is playing in me head well I only know the tune and the first line

    • MidwestMiddie

      It must be what her wealthy old man hubby was looking for. LOL
      She is cheap looking and how sad because the photo of her, shown above,
      as a young woman…..she was very pretty.

      • teri keller

        I agree much prettier

  • OhSnarkyMe

    Nice hot tea, Beach!!

  • colleen

    Erika came clean about her quest for money, fame and fortune, because; if she didn’t, someone else would

    • BHFan

      Well it doesn’t say anything about her before Tom Girardi life on Bravo’s biography, except what she told on her own. She was a cocktail waitress, knew Tom as a patron, and gave him her number

      • BHFan

        So she moved 1995-1996, served drinks to Tom, gave him her number. Married in ’99. Two people at their wedding, the witnesses. In 2007, she started her music career, after she decided she needed something to do. Tom agreed and open his checkbook

        • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

          I just said the same thing, hey BHFan!
          What did she do before 21?
          OOPS!

  • CryWolf

    My bet, is that this came out at the reunion and she wants to put it out there first.

  • Babson_Chick

    Oh my I’ve been hearing rumors about this but bottom line she knows how to take care of herself – has the cash to do whatever she wants!

  • Digitus impudicus

    Sorry, I would rather take true love over lavishly expensive things.

    • Babson_Chick

      I’ve had both but for me happiness rules which is why I’m single lol. IMO it’s the money & security that she craves.

      • Digitus impudicus

        Blessings to you! So glad you’re happy, so inspiring!

        • Babson_Chick

          Why thank you kindly!! Sorry to be so late in responding.

    • Vogue

      Lavish and expensive live where you have to call your husband a boss and he tells you to shut up in front of ur friends and family. Even my boss who I work for, doesn’t treat me the way that her husband treats her.

    • BHFan

      Yeah I couldn’t do it

  • Ronnie

    Grandhushand – I will be borrowing that term! Lol.

    • MsM

      I know, that’s the most artistic description of an old money-bag hubby I’ve seen in a long time!!!

      • Ronnie

        It is! Still laughing.

    • BigBrothersMother

      I’m happy to say that I should have the opportunity to use the term “grandhusband” tonight. I can’t wait. It’s perfect!

      • Ronnie

        Lol. I will be looking for your comment.

  • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

    Am I right i thinking that Erika has released just 8 songs and all of them have been No. 1s? If that isn’t suspect then I don’t know what is. There is no way her first song Rollercoaster made it to No. 1 by itself. No way.

    • BHFan

      No I think she has had two #1 hits over her career. That’s what I read on Bravo’s site about Erika

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        Thanks BH. There seems to be two charts – on one she has two and on the other she has 8 out of 8!

    • She’s had 2 #1’s on the Dance Tune charts …whatever that means.

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        We have to see if they only lasted there a week – then we will know Grandpappy bought that too.

        I think she’s repulsive. I don’t envy anything about her, her “personalities”, or her life. She’s conveniently started telling her story at the point of a “newly divorced” woman. I’d like to hear about her childhood that lead her to aspirations to become a waitress, a golddigger, and a skank onstage.

        When I hear stories like this, I think of Nicole Brown Simpson. I’d like to hear about one of these relationships having mutual love and respect.

        • You already know grand-hubby bought her esteemed spot on the “Dance Tune” charts…I have no doubt. She reminds me so much of Anna Nicole Smith trailer park trash. I knew she was trash from day one and was never on the Erika Jayne train.

          • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

            So did I. I wasn’t even really on the fence, I just refrained from expressing my real feelings. I’ve been cursed out on social media for “slut shaming”. Guess I need to go to the urban dictionary and figure out what I’m being accused of. Or ask Amber Rose LMAO!!!

            Jayne can do what she wants. I don’t watch BH to see her pat her puss, drunks or BG’s, who is in a class all by herself. If she was on another show, I wouldn’t watch. That’s all.

            I always say I can go to the local mall at any time of day and see hoochie mamas of all ages whenever I want to. LOL!

          • ROFL!! Slut shaming = a BS crusade to gives hoes refuge??

          • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

            That’s what I’m thinking! I know it’s all relative but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…People say the same of Jax and no one says he’s being slut shamed. I think I’ll try that over on the other site. LOL! Let me put my sanctimonious hat on and defend that guy! I might be one of the few who likes him anyway. I don’t know why. 😀

          • SassyMcAsspants

            Lmao, the Jax Defendor! That would get the folks over there super riled.

          • OhSnarkyMe

            No refuge for hos!!

          • OhSnarkyMe

            Sluts have no shame, so really when we shame them we are doing them a service.

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            Me neither Suess. I had her card marked from day one. I really don’t get how easily fooled people are in to thinking she is a straight talker and “refreshing”?

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          Without doubt he bought those positions as well as her record company. I completely agree Foxy, repulsive is a great word for her. She’s got the balls to try and spin this “career” of hers as an achievement.

          • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

            She is lipsyncing badly to her own poorly sung song. Bending over and shaking her ass. Rubbing her crotch. What talent!

            I wonder if Grandpappy had to pay musicians and songwriters too. All of her songs sound the same. I’m wondering why her good friend Yolanda didnt get The King to come up with some quality material for her. It’s all gotten quite outrageous. This is worse than the Blabbi met Cedric modeling lie.

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            What I want to know is WHO finds that tired old rinse and repeat lap dance act entertaining? Haven’t they seen it done before lots of times and much better? It’s so dated and if her audience is predominately gay then why would they want her crotch in their faces?

      • whoopsie2

        Yeah, the Croatian Dance Tune charts

        • Ahahahhaha!!!!!

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          Hahahaha!!!! Brilliant 🙂

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        On billboard dot com all 8 songs are listed as charting at no. 1 on the Dance Chart, an amazing 100% record…

        • Jennymckitty

          What are the odds? And I had never heard a single one of them.

          • IKR…what a cowinkadink that ALL 8 songs from a nobody artist becomes #1.

    • MidwestMiddie

      It must be a musical version of the NY Times Best Seller Book List. I mean
      once the Felon has been there, you know anyone can do it.

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        That’s what I’m thinking!!!

    • Beau Lovey

      The Girardi Hit List

      • Aleggra

        I didn’t know Erika sang. Just danced. I like Erika and Eileen both. Out of all of them, especially Rinna and Kathryn, they seem the most level headed. Do you guys not like Eileen & Erika because of something they’ve done?

    • teri keller

      Maybe it was number one in the porn industry

  • MsM

    Alas, this comes as no surprise…the woman is SOOOOOOOO self-absorbed it’s frightening!

    • Add insecure to that list. She’s had a ton of work done based on her old pics.

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        Bitchenny cracked me up when she said that’s a whole lotta maintenance or some such. HA!

        • Hahahaha! Bethenny was rude but spot on.

  • Dave

    No wonder her and Yolanda are friends, gold diggers stick together.

    • BriannaG

      Yeah, finally their “friendship” makes sense)

    • TalesFanGirl

      At least Yolanda has the decency to go after men her own age. Erika couldn’t even pretend to be subtle marrying an ugly old rich guy.

    • tapestry10

      I’ve lost track of who else this about because I lost track of the thread. But I don’t know that Yolanda is a gold digger. She’s a gorgeous international model, or was. She was a trophy wife. So she’d be much sought out. I think some men with fortunes and power want women just like her. So they court women like her. It doesn’t make her a gold digger.

  • Dana

    Make that money bitch. Fuck the haters, wishing they could be in your shoes.

    • Why does this NOT surprise me! 😂😂😂

    • whoopsie2

      Dana, Go to your room.

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        I was about to say, BE QUIET. The adults are talking!

  • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

    Well, Eileen is earning her money this season. What is it, a cool million Bravo is paying her? To defend Erik**t and Yolanda and get summarily chased off social media. I think it’s hilarious! Only that kind of money could make someone like Eileen defend Erika and say c**t on TV. Otherwise I’d call her quite uptight.

    She loves Erika and her skillz so much, how come she can’t own up to her own affair? She should be proud she caught her man! Her hero Jayne sure is!

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Eileen must feel really stupid now looking at the edited show and seeing Erika’s mean-spirited Talking Heads and the fan backlash.

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        She should have taken note of what happened to Kyle, Yolanda AND Trashville, who directly and intentionally was contrary with her. I really think Bravo does this to HW they think can take the backlash. Bravo believes Eileen came with her own set of die hard fans from her soap opera and she was pretty well liked last season. So pit the two favorites against each other.

        Lisa is blindsided every time.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      LOL Foxy. Remember last season when Eileen was clutching her pearls at Brandi saying STFU? She offered to buy her a thesaurus? Now she’s lecturing the other HWs that they shouldn’t be offended by “c*nty” because it’s only a word?!!

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        Right! That’s what I’m saying! She was such a prude!

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          I find it hilarious when she is trying to act all cool around Erika and like she thinks her act is the best thing ever while trying to mask the feeling of disgust she has looking at her…she is a terrible actress.

          • OhSnarkyMe

            You beast!!

          • chacha1

            Hahahaaaaa and when Kim called her that she had a case of the vapors and had Prissy fanning her after she fainted on the chaise lounge at Tara

    • MidwestMiddie

      Why would Bravo ever pay her a Million Dollars?
      That is just too funny ……………..

      • foxy in the VAULT 💩🐛🍋🍈🚿🔑🛌🏃😩

        This was rumored to be her salary. I think it’s quite high. I thought it was funny, too. Same as bankrolling Teresa after prison because she flipped a table years ago. Someone PLEASE tell Bravo these are ensemble casts!

        • OhSnarkyMe

          Bravo needs to ask for a refund. She’s only worth about $150.00

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            LOL Bravo probably asked her to throw in Rinna for that too! They were a BOGOF deal.

          • OhSnarkyMe

            And Bravo still overpaid!! Wonder if they used a Groupon?

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            You know Rinna would definitely go on Groupon!!

          • Aleggra

            Rinna isn’t worth $20

        • Aleggra

          That’s just ridiculous. It’s also when I stopped watching NJ. Never watched another one. I thought she was nuts!

      • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

        They probably pay her in casino chips.

        • MidwestMiddie

          LOL

      • Aleggra

        I thought the same thing. I thought only Bethenny got that much & that’s why LuAnne & Ramona are ‘friends of’ this coming season? Ramona was ‘friends of’ last season & made more money. She was in every scene while Bethenny played mommie.
        In the real world, women can’t stop working to go see their children and get a million + $$$$. But this isn’t the real world.

        • Henni

          Ramona wasn’t “friends of” last season, she was a full time HW.

          • Aleggra

            It was one season then. She figured out she made more $$$.

    • chacha1

      Eileen has this sick obsession with Erika, it is really kind of scary, and seeing Erika with all that money and having Vinnie Van Nobody doing nothing but gambling away the house she must be ready for the nut farm.

    • Aleggra

      Does Eileen’s husband work? Does anyone know?

      • Lipstickandribbons

        He has 58 credits for acting on his IMDB page, not including his directing and producing credits.

        • Aleggra

          Okay, then he’s worked. That’s good.

  • Lila

    Well I find this sad for her son. But maybe, she Did do him a favor by letting his father raise him. I wonder if they have any kind of relationship. Abandonment – if that is the case, is not easily forgiven.

  • Norrth

    I just fell in love with the word “grandhusband” LAWD!!!!

  • T’s Martini Lounge

    Who’s surprised by this? That’s what I thought, no one.

  • Kim’s Lazy Eye

    I’m not giving her a pass for abandoning her son, BUT the girl was extremely young when she had him and let’s face it – how mature are 18 year olds?

    • Sunflower

      Exactly… who are we to judge?
      Her son turned out great. He is a Police Officer… serving the PEOPLE.
      For some… It Takes a Village to Raise a Child!!

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      She was 21 when she had him and married. Plenty of women have kids at that age and younger and some on their own.

      • teri keller

        I agree I will not applaud her for anything she has or is doing as for being jealous I admitt to being jealous if Lisa Vanderpump I am green with envy but I love her

        • Aleggra

          I’m not. When I see LVP’s house, all I can think of is dog hair, pony poop, swan poop & all sorts of animal smells. I can’t help it.

          • teri keller

            Eww yet I cant see her home smelling

          • Aleggra

            I don’t want to but can’t help it. There are a lot of animals & they get into things, esp after bathing them. LOL. My dog used to roll around on the floor the run outside & roll around in the dirt 🙁

    • Aleggra

      I had my daughter at 18. When they gave me this little bundle, I looked up at the nurse and asked, “Now what do I do?” They don’t come with instructions on their tiny foot 🙂

      • Nick’s daughter

        That’s the cutest way you expressed that…babies “don’t come with instructions on their tiny foot” 😊. I am up late, reading and just smiling at your comment😏. Will look forward to more of your thoughts, I enjoyed this.

  • Jan Terlikowski

    I like Ericka! Not everyone is cut out to be a mommy. She clearly made the correct choice for not only herself, but her child as well. Don’t judge, you were not there. As for ‘gold digging’.. it takes two. He clearly wanted to marry her. They have been together for over twenty years! Sounds like people are just jealous!

    • MidwestMiddie

      I agree with you except for people being jealous of Erika.
      Why would anyone be jealous of her? She isn’t even likable.
      BTW — I do think Erika is extremely jealous of Lisa Vanderpump.

    • SassyMcAsspants

      I agree, sans the jealous bit.

    • Aleggra

      20 yrs ago he may have looked like Tom Cruise! Aging is not fun. My nose is getting bigger and I’m getting shorter. And I’m no THAT old!

  • KKLS30

    So Erika is no different than the likes of Draya,Diamond Strawberry,Erica Mena and all the others like them who chose not to be active in the day to day lives of their children as they hoped to capture a wealthy partner. If this were a man(Slade/Brooks) she would be eaten alive in the comments as I have yet to hear a man being defended for this behavior by someone pointing how he didn’t really abandon the kids he just left them with their mother. a
    I also sense if she would have failed in her mission and didn’t hook a grandhusband there would be even less attempts to sugarcoat this bullshit.

    Charming to leave a young child without the presence of his mother so that she could go be a WAITRESS. Too bad there wasn’t a large cosmopolitan city on the east coast with lots of wealthy men and strong ties to the entertainment industry. Oh wait there is and it is called NYC. Not to mention we aren’t talking about some great talent here that the world would have been robbed of if she had decided to co-parent in the same state as her son’s father. She was a pretty woman but was never going to be a top model and her skills were such that eventually her husband had to buy her a career.Imagine what that poor kids nights were like when she first left him. Children that age are VERY attached to their mothers unless of course she was a shitty parent from the start. I’m sure his trauma was assuaged at 3 when he was informed that raising little kids just isn’t for some people, that mommy is immature, and that hey it takes a village!

    How proud she must be that one defense of her behavior is that the trauma of being abandoned by his mother perhaps isn’t as bad as the damage that would have been caused by her influence in his day to day life preventing us from dealing with a male version of Brielle and Ariana. Her son turning out to be a member of the LAPD is something I give her no credit for as every single day people overcome the circumstances of their youth to become functioning members of society. If you don’t raise your own child you don’t get to get praise when they still turn out well. Nor is it a testimony to her decisions that he moved to LA. Children innately desire to connect with even the most horrible parents and that cannot be confused for a healthy mother-child relationship. Look at Kim Richards and how damaging she is to children who still flock around her. Or how Kyle,Kim,and Big Kathy still adore the woman famous for encouraging her children to marry for money and that charming time she hired a man to teach Little Kathy how to perform oral sex in a van outside their house.

    • Excellent post, KKLS30.

    • Weeds1

      Excellent post. I saw on another board that her fans are giving her a pass on this. I’m not a fan and she doesn’t get a pass.

      • MidwestMiddie

        I’m not a fan of Erika’s but I don’t think we know enough about her son’s
        life to label her as Witch of a Mother either.

        • Aleggra

          Exactly. Plus, we don’t know enough to call her a gold digger. Maybe she fell madly in love with this guy? We just don’t know. He may have looked like Tom Cruise for all we know. Ha ha…I doubt it but who knows?

        • Weeds1

          I can’t imagine leaving my 3 year old to do what? Be a waitress way across the country? I just don’t get it. And I can’t say I like her on the show. Too trashy….we finally get rid of Brandi and now we have another foul mouthed agitator?

          • MidwestMiddie

            I couldn’t have ever left my children. EVER!
            I, also, refuse to pre-judge Erika regarding leaving her son with
            his father and I dislike her.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      Brilliant post! What is very telling about Erika is that a couple of years after leaving one family she willingly gives up her dream and plays the role of the dutiful lawyer’s wife for ten years. It seems that leaving home was never about finding herself or her dream but about money.

    • MidwestMiddie

      Maybe ………just maybe Erika knew herself best and knew she wasn’t a good mother.

      Perhaps she never wanted to become a mother but it happened. She didn’t abort
      her baby. Maybe she tried to be a good mother but wasn’t ……….she ended up being young, divorced and with a child. Perhaps she was smart enough to know that her
      son’s father was the Better Parent and the best caregiver for him. While away …..
      perhaps she talked to her son on the telephone daily, weekly ……..
      perhaps she saw him on holidays, birthdays and for long vacations……..
      We just don’t know.

      Did I miss where Erika took credit for her son’s achievements? Don’t think so.

      While I don’t like Erika and I hope she is a Bravo One Season Cast Member,
      I prefer to assume that somehow her son’s childhood, teen and early
      adult years worked out best for him. Maybe he has close and loving
      relationships with his father, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, childhood
      pals, his mother and his step-father. Why assume the worse when as strange
      as his life may seem to us, it may have all been what was best for him? I hope so.

      • SassyMcAsspants

        Perfectly said, Middie. My thoughts exactly–I could not find a way to state them without sounding super grumpy, and erased several attempted posts before submitting them. Not every woman wants to be, or has the capacity, to be a good mother. Good on her for recognizing that.

        • MidwestMiddie

          Thanks ………
          I tried posting my comment last night but was very tired
          and didn’t like my attempts.

          This isn’t an easy topic but it is a worthwhile one.

          • SassyMcAsspants

            I agree wholeheartedly. And it is also a topic that can become very personal, very quick, which is treacherous–especially when tired.

          • Aleggra

            Erika didn’t marry right away. She waitressed for over a year or more. She probably became discouraged. Supposedly, Erika took dancing, singing & acting classes in NY. I think she wanted to make it big in Hollywood but found out how difficult it was.

        • teri keller

          Should we applaud her? No she isnt noble for what she has done or is doing no wonder she is jealous of LVP a mother who works for her money and raised both her children

          • Aleggra

            Should we applaud LVP? Ken was married w/children. 6 months later, he was married to Lisa. She was 21. What happened to Ken’s children? He must have grandchildren by now. I haven’t seen them. EVER.

          • Aleggra

            Why is Erika jealous? I don’t see that. They’ve both had different lives. All of the women have.
            I wouldn’t be jealous of LVP working all of her life. It might be the other way around, unless LVP has noticed what a control freak Tom is. And he is a huge control freak.

          • teri keller

            Because Lisa V has worked hard for her money she is beautiful classy and graceful, Erika is just slutty

          • teri keller

            Well how could you have any self worth and let someone treat you like that

          • Aleggra

            Erika can’t respect herself. I think that’s part of the alternate identity. But she could’ve chosen to educate herself, get a degree, etc like Joanne Woodward did despite being a talented actress in her own right (Paul Newman’s wife). Instead she chose to dance naked. Not remarkable at all. If she had educated herself, I don’t think she’d be w/him. Her eyes would’ve opened up to more respectful possibilities. But I doubt he would have paid for that. He’s not stupid and knows she might have left him. On another site they commented on her being the passive partner & he’s the dominant one. I can’t help but wonder what her childhood was like. I wonder if there was some type of abuse and she feels protected by him. It could’ve been emotional abuse by her mother & that’s why she was so close to her grandmother. Just guessing.

          • teri keller

            I ? Just do not know

          • teri keller

            LVP has worked hard for her monies and earns respect

          • EP

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          • teri keller

            Thank you I enjoy ur posts

          • EP

            YW 🙂

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            Greetings, EP!! Glad you started a great day & saw my message!! I could not Sleep, up late w Insomnia. Am Up now, having ☕. Thanks for the big hugs 💙💗💜, am going to make Today a good one!! ☺

        • Aleggra

          Mine also. She was very young when she had her son. We don’t know if she saw him or not. Maybe the father brought him out here to see her. We shouldn’t pre-judge w/out knowing all of the facts. She came to L.A for a reason. Actress? Dancer? Was she taking classes? We don’t know. People love to judge w/out knowing the whole story. After all LVP married Ken right after his divorce (he met her in his club while married) 6 months after meeting him. She was 21. We could say she was a gold digger. But we know she’s worked all of those years. Maybe the ex-wife worked too. Ken has children from that first marriage but no one judges him for dumping his wife & kids for a 21 yr old Lisa. And Lisa saw a man that owned a club. She just stepped into the wife’s shoes. For all we know, the wife’s father bought the club for Ken & 1st wife. Lisa got a good deal way back when. 6 months to break up a marriage. If that’s what happened. Who knows?

          • MidwestMiddie

            Lisa VP has said her brother introduced Ken to her. He thought they
            would be a good match. He was right!!! : )
            There are photos online of their Wedding Day ………all very lovely
            with family all about.

          • Aleggra

            I read LVP met Ken in his bar. She was being cheeky & pretended to be the doorman. Ken walked in & she stopped him to charge him, playing around. When he told her he was the owner, her eyes lit up & 6 weeks later they married (no, she wasn’t preggers).

          • MidwestMiddie

            Don’t know which is the correct story but there is no doubt
            they married very soon after meeting each other and they
            lucked out —– Perfect Match!!! : )

          • Aleggra

            Yes, if it’s true. I’m beginning to wonder if anything any of these women say is true. My trust level is lower than Rinna’s. Btw: why did Rinna say her trust level is “through the roof”? That means it’s high: trusting everyone? Just found this bit of news “[Kim will be seeing a Season] 6 return, fans will reportedly be seeing her during the upcoming reunion special, which will likely air in late March or early April.
            It probably means they’ll show flashbacks of Kim. Seems Bravo is thinking of bringing Kim & Brandi back for S 7. I’m sure fans will be thrilled 😀

      • KKLS30

        I did not say she took credit for his achievements. I was referring to the fact that many comments suggest she didn’t do him any damage because he turned out well.

        Naturally there are women who have no interest in motherhood.However there are many ways to avoid that if it isn’t what you want. There are countless forms of birth control. There is adoption. No one should be forced into motherhood but there is a big difference from a woman who finds herself with a newborn she doesn’t want and either has it adopted or given to relatives and a woman who has a child for 3 years and then bounces after he has grown attached. Good luck getting a 3 year old to understand his mother is off trying to find herself. I lose my ability to defend a woman to do what she wants with her body and her life when it involves emotionally traumatizing an innocent child.

        Can’t say I see many people defending Kenya’s mother like they defend Erika and she was a 16 year old who wanted nothing to do with her child. Not to mention she also suffered from mental illness. And I doubt Erika would be up for much praise if instead of meeting and marrying that rich little hobbit husband of hers she was still a cocktail waitress long past her prime.

        • MidwestMiddie

          Divorce happens ………young children often lose contact with
          one of their parents. We do not know the facts about
          Erika’s son’s childhood and how much contact she had with him.

          Or do you know the facts?

    • teri keller

      Nailed it

    • Aleggra

      Yep. My mom left my dad when I was 5 yrs old. I saw him once since then. No cards, letters, nothing. My mom had 4 kids but wouldn’t live with a man that had another family although my grandmother begged her to ignore the other woman. That’s what they did in those days. You’re so right about pointing out the differences between men & women. No one thinks twice if a man leaves & never contacts his kids again. But a woman does it and OMG…she’s a horing gold digger. And the man is? Just a bad husband that left.

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  • Beau Lovey

    If my husband told me to go to my room, especially in front of others, I would to my room, and bury him under the floorboards. What some women will put up with for money.

    • Aleggra

      It’s probably where Erika has her emergency stash: under the floorboards.

  • Betty

    I wonder who her first husband was. I actually like Erica enough and she was young, but this is a shame and sad. Does Tom have a previous wife and kids? I can’t find anything about Toms former personal life.

    • Nancysue

      Difficult to find much about Tom. I was just reading about his 2 ex wives, and 27 year old son, Vince.

      • Aleggra

        Hmmm…I wonder if they left him? Probably. The first one probably wanted to buy a $40 dress and he said, “Absolutely not. You think I’m made of money?”

    • Aleggra

      Erika is the only one that looks the same as her younger photos. Very pretty.

  • LuxLuxLux

    So she’s not allowed to buy jewelry because that’s Tom’s decision? I bet this dude won’t leave her jack in his will & she will have wasted her time!

    • teri keller

      If he is really smart but I bet she gets so much a year for staying with him in the prenup (classic Jackie O)

      • Aleggra

        If I were her, I’d begin hoarding any money he gives her or secretly write some checks. I bet they don’t even have a joint checking account. He probably gives her money after scrutinizing how much she’s spent that month.
        I’d be floored if I found out this guy is generous. She can’t buy jewelry unless he’s seen it first? What a tightwad.

        • teri keller

          Ikr

    • Aleggra

      I wouldn’t count on his money if I were her.

  • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

    I’m waiting to find out that Erika is really 66 and Andy Cohen is her long lost son.

    • Bwahahahaha!!!!

    • Aleggra

      Nah, he’s Tom’s love child w/LVP.

  • Madeleine Loudbear

    Reading these posts crack me up. We as little people are taught to shoot for the stars and go for it. Then when we grow up and achieve the goals that we set forth people say words like gold digger and unkind things about hard choices. Erika impresses me. She goes to a teacher, a wise man a wealthy and powerful man that protects her and allows her to express herself. I think people say mean things cuz they only wish they had the drive to fulfill their goals. It’s nice to see a wife respect a grandhusband. It’s a different dynamic I would think, her being 40 years younger. Powerful men are attractive to many women, lets not crucify her for living her American Dream. Besides that grandhubby ain’t that bad. He’s kinda cute. They look like they fit.

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      Erika was not a performer she married Tom. She was not chasing her dream. She married him and played the good little wife for ten years before he bought her a record company. This isn’t about hard work, earning her success or the American Dream. Most women these days earn their careers through educating themselves and working hard, not by sleeping with a rich old dude.

      • Jersey

        Amen!

      • MarcoPolo

        Exactly.

      • Betty

        Isn’t that what LVP did also? In LVP’s case however, it appears.both the parents abandoned their son.

        • Aleggra

          I think I read that LVP was 21 when she met Ken who was married w/kids. But don’t quote me on this. I’ve gotta look it up again & get the story right. I’m almost sure she was 21 & he was in his 40’s. He already had one club. I don’t know if his 1st wife worked there. Probably not. I kinda remember Ken & Lisa got married 6 months later as soon as Ken’s divorce went thru. That 1st marriage must’ve been on the rocks already. Kind of like John Lennon & his 1st wife.

          • KKLS30

            You read wrong then. Ken was married when he was 19 and it only lasted for two years. He only has one son from that marriage,Warren, who he had full custody of because his mother didn’t want to raise him. Warren later had a longterm secret affair with Lisa’s best friend and but they eventually married.

          • Aleggra

            Yes. I read it years ago & forgot. Just re-read it. His ex, however, says she was in her son’s life, whatever that means. He’s very close to his mum, now.

          • Aleggra

            Yes. I read it a long time ago but recently re-read it. But in the first comment, I said, “don’t quote me” because I wasn’t sure. My memory isn’t what it used to be 🙁

          • JMMW

            Lisa was 21, Ken was about 36, he met her when she tried to charge him to get into his own club. Ken said she was like a breathe of fresh air and yes they married quickly but she has said they knew it from the start. She then proceed to work along side him to build up the business which they continue to be pretty much each others better half. Ken’s wife was way out of the picture prior to Lisa as his son was a teenager when Lisa came into the picture. I believe Ken said Warren was about 2 or younger when they split. Not that she was out of the kid’s life, Ken has said she wasn’t prepared as a young woman to be a mother so he raised Warren with the help of his parents but Warren’s mother was in his life just not the custodial parent.

          • Aleggra

            Yes. I re-read it & it’s very cute how they met. I don’t know anyone that ever got married 6 weeks after meeting. But it’s lasted forever and they seem made for each other. It’s really remarkable if it’s true. If not, it’s still a cute story & what’s most remarkable is how long the marriage has lasted so in the long run, it doesn’t matter how they met.

          • tapestry10

            If LVP met Ken while he was married–and I’m not judging this, just mentioning–she’s certainly not entitled to question and cross-question Eileen about doing exactly the same thing. I’m not judging either one of them. I don’t know the circumstances in either case, and even then, it’s their business. Eileen could have handled the whole situation better by asking LVP the same questions LVP was asking her.

          • Aleggra

            Ken was not married when they met. I re-read it. He was divorced w/one kid. He says he took care of the kid. But the ex says they shared custody. Ken’s son still lives in England & seems very close to his mum. I don’t think Ken brought him to the states after marrying LVP. They married 6 weeks after knowing each other. Wow. That was fast. But it’s lasted. Ken owned his own bar when he married LVP. I think that may have swayed her. Does she ever talk about her family? Her mum or dad? Or siblings? I’ve never heard it but might’ve missed it.

          • tapestry10

            She was a child actress. I think I read that she went to a professional children’s school. She had a bit part–uncredited–as one of Glenda Jackson’s children in A Touch of Class. Other acting credits listed on IMDB, nothing major. I never saw anything in the English papers that really went into her background, which is unusual for the English papers, which usually go for blood.

          • Aleggra

            tap, I watched that movie ‘A Touch of a Class.’ I think it was about a young guy falling in love w/an older woman (not LVP). She was a friend or something, very pretty. Maybe that’s where she took the Vanderpump name as a stage name & they kept it. Don’t know. She did bit acting in the UK. Don’t know about here.

          • tapestry10

            George Segal played a married American guy in London who fell in love with a divorced Englishwoman/apparel company executive, Glenda Jackson. The movie doesn’t credit anyone with playing the daughter. But now it says Lisa Vanderpump–uncredited. I don’t know how it got added that way, because, obviously, VDP was not her name at the time. That’s just bizarre.

          • Aleggra

            Tap, I thought so, too. It just came to me after reading about her & Ken. His name is Todd. Maybe it’s her single name? But why not hyphenate it, then? Strange. We’ll probably never know.

          • tapestry10

            That’s true, it is Todd. Maybe it is her real name. She has said in the past that it’s Dutch.

      • Aleggra

        I should’ve slept w/a rich old dude but I thought they were in their early 40’s. For me that was ancient (what a dummy I was). Besides, I didn’t know any rich old dudes & at 26, I was too old for the them :)~ So, I went back to school & earned my degrees. But why aren’t I rich?

    • Mary

      Thankyou “Eyes” for telling it like it is. Madeleine, what a skewed way to look at someone who has done nothing more than spread her legs for money. Sounds vulgar I know, but essentially that’s what it adds up to.

    • teri keller

      I call bs its classic gold digging 101 since when is it the American dream to be a mother who abandons her son to marry an old fart and the do soft porn videos? Lol good grief talk about spinning on bs

    • Aleggra

      I agree w/you now that I’m older. But when I was young, newly divorced w/2 children, I thought any man over 35 was old. Available rich powerful men are not plentiful in L.A. I know even tho I wasn’t looking for one. I had friends that wanted to marry rich. They never did. I think Erika’s story is unique. From what I’ve seen of her man, this guy is no easy pickings. If he smelled a gold digger, this guy would’ve never called her. And if he felt manipulated, he would’ve gotten rid of her likity split. This is one controlling, intelligent man that doesn’t put up w/much. He was no smitten grand-daddy like Ana Nichole Smith’s Great grand-daddy. She probably fell for his power & intelligence. This man didn’t hand her his checkbook when she moved in. He probably made her pay rent, phone, her clothes, etc. Didn’t she mention not being able to buy jewelry unless he ok’d it? If I had met him, first off…I wouldn’t have looked at him. No way. Plus, I’d just come out of a 10 yr marriage where I did whatever I wanted. We had joint accounts & if he grumbled because of something I bought, I’d cook him a nice dinner & end of grumble. I worked too after all. There’s no way I could’ve married a controlling man. Ever. Even if I was madly in love & he was a zillionaire. So my take is that she must’ve cared for him to put up w/his personality. That’s not a gold-digger. I think she loved him in her way–whatever that is. Gold-diggers see easy money & a man that will give it up. That’s not Tom Girardi. I bet he counts every dime she spends. She has to care for him to put up w/that garbage. Few women would put up with that unless they’re doormats and then those kind of men aren’t interested.

      • tapestry10

        I think no matter what kind of man you marry, you’re better off earning your own money, which is what we taught our children, two of whom are girls. Anyone who has a job is entitled to the freedom of spending it as they choose.

        • Aleggra

          I agree. I imagine Erika is now making her own money & she worked before meeting Tom. I’ve always earned my own money while married. But never made as much as my husband. Remember, we work at home, taking care of the kids (if any) & husband & home. And no one gives us a paycheck. Plus, if we work, it’s double work for us. Very few husbands come home from work & cook. Some do. I wasn’t lucky. And what husband does the laundry, clean, etc? And works? None of my friends’ husbands cook & clean after working. But lucky me. I do.

          • tapestry10

            You’re right, Aleggra, very, very few men split the responsibilities, which is very unfair, and you’re right, when women work inside and outside the home, they’re working two full-time jobs. I wasn’t fortunate enough to have children, though I wanted them, but I had stepchildren. Same deal. I worked full time, shopped for food, cooked the meals. When the kids were young the place where I worked allowed you to take overtime as “comp time” which were days off instead of money. So I took as many days off as I could to stay home and take care of the kids. One thing I noticed from those days: the kids seemed to have more respect for me when I worked than when I took off from work. Go know!

          • Aleggra

            Tapestry, I was married w/two kids and a Fireman husband. I not only cooked, took care of the kids, dog, cat & house but also worked the night shift at the Phone Co. It’s a good thing I was young. But I worked with older women doing the same thing: working at home & at the Phone Co w/children & bigger houses than mine. Most men have no idea how much we do. And you’re right about the kids having more respect. My kids are now grown & remember how much I did plus they have good work ethics so it pays off in the end 🙂

          • tapestry10

            The kids have a terrific work ethic, which I take no credit for, but we worked to get our educations and so did they. We’re very proud of them. All three kids have terrific jobs. Funny thing is, we live in the very modest section of a town which has very, very, very, very rich people. Some of the richest people in the country. You’d know the names of the people or their companies. But many–and I mean MANY of them–have kids that are so down and out and unemployed that they still live with or off their parents–when they’re 40 years old–and they’re in and out of drunk tanks, jails, rehabs and hospital mental wards all the time. The people without a lot of money, from what I can see, did a lot better with their kids. People like you, Aleggra.

          • Aleggra

            And like you, Tapestry. Give yourself credit. Children learn from us. Look at the celebrities’ kids. They’re a mess just like your neighbor’s rich kids. And the Richards sisters whose fond memories of their mother was drinking & picking guys up at the Polo Lounge & telling the daughter’s to marry rich or become actresses (which is hard work but very difficult to become). I’m very proud of my kids, too. I may have been very young but at least I did something right. My kids don’t drink or do drugs and both began working as teens. We lived in a tourist town so work was easy for them to get. Erika’s ex must’ve given the son a good work ethic. Being a police officer in L.A. is not easy. I live here now & my nerves couldn’t take the worry if my son had that job. Actually, it’s not easy in any city but L.A is is pretty bad. The small tourist town where I had my children and lived still send burned out policemen there because they need to rest. There’s no real crime there–just bar brawls or unruly tourists. The only way to get there is by boat because it’s an island and the commercial boats don’t run at night. It’s the type of place where everyone knows everyone. I loved it but the gossip got on my nerves. That and island fever–no where to go. That’s why I enjoy these blogs. They remind me of my 15 yrs on the island 😀 Except that I don’t know the women that I’m gossiping about except what we read & see of them on TV. LOL

          • tapestry10

            I’m dying to know: on what island did you live? I know what you mean about touristy places. For 20 years, my job required me to work in the Hamptons from Memorial Day to Labor Day. My employer provided me with a house for those summer months. There, too, I got to see up close what life was like for the very, very rich. I think it’s my destiny (and yours, too?) to live up close to the wealthy but not be the wealthy. I’m fine with that. Sometimes I think the rich people around here have only what I have, but the more expensive kind. Would I be happier if I had kitchen cabinets that cost $500,000 –like Heather Dubrow? Hell, no. A kitchen cabinet doesn’t give people happiness, no matter what kind it is. People give people happiness. And dogs do. I wouldn’t trade my dog for the grandest mansion on this earth.

          • Aleggra

            LOL, Tap…We’ve had similar backgrounds, different coasts. I lived on Catalina Island, 28 miles from San Pedro. But I watch “The Affair”…love it. It reminds me of my days on the island. Yes, we were surrounded by rich folks but I never became one of them. And like you, I could care less for kitchen cabinets or Heather Dubrow’s monstrosity of a house. I can’t help wondering what she’s making up for? As long as I have what I need and my kids are safe, I’m happy. Actually, I’m getting rid of anything I don’t use to live a more simpler lifestyle. I’m older now & it’s amazing what we accumulate.
            Speaking of dogs, my daughter had to have her beloved dog put to sleep yesterday. She’s traumatized. He was an older lab (14 yrs old). It’s so sad but had to be done. He could no longer walk. Dogs become family so I know how you feel about yours. We both think alike about the rich. I actually think too much money can ruin people’s perspective. I’ve seen it up close and we watch it on these shows. Money buys things, not love or friendships or all of the beautiful things in life that are free. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to be poor. But I don’t need to be rich, either. When I see how unhappy some of these women are, I feel lucky. And some are really unhappy. Otherwise, they wouldn’t do the things they do such as backstabbing, being hurtful towards each other, etc. Look at what Tamara has lost on the OC, her children won’t talk to her. No amount of money takes that pain away.

          • tapestry10

            Oh, your poor daughter. I know that pain. The only thing in the world capable of soothing it is another dog or a puppy. She was was never a better mother to that poor dog than when she ended it for him. I hope I’m lucky enough, when my time comes, to be able to get to a right-to-die state and give myself the same peaceful ending I’ve given my beloved dogs. Catalina Island! (Wasn’t there a song–“Santa Catalina–the island of romance…” We are on the same page in so many ways. I so agree about money. It’s like health–it becomes very important when you don’t have it. And with money, the same, if you don’t have it, it becomes central in your life. I never needed to be rich. I don’t care about jewelry or designer this or that. But if I had a lot of money the one thing I’d splurge on is first class flight. Ever since 9/11, flying has become such an awful nightmare I barely fly any more. My brother in law won’t fly ever since he got searched–I never asked exactly what happened. I don’t want to know. I know what you mean about shedding possessions. I feel the same way. The time of life for accumulating is over. Now it’s time to shed. I find the most impossible stuff to get rid of is stuff I don’t want but it belonged to my mother so I can’t throw it away. You know you’ve reached the point of throwing stuff out when you stop stopping at garage sales. My car used to stop automatically when I saw one. No more. Whatever they’re getting rid of, I want to get rid of, too!

          • Aleggra

            tap, my daughter knew it was coming so she went to Mexico and adopted a puppy, long before Max (her dog) was finally put to sleep. That puppy is now big & takes the hurt away a bit but it’s still difficult for her & my grandson. Her hubby feels it too but he’s busy working. A strange thing happened the next day after Max died. Her father, my ex, died 3 yrs ago from lung cancer. He was a heavy smoker. The day after Max’s passing, my daughter saw a plume of cigarette smoke in the backyard. My grandson was upstairs w/a cold & he’s only 10 & watched what his grandfather went through because of smoking, so I doubt he’ll ever smoke (crossing fingers). No one in her house or neighbors smoke. She went outside to check but it was gone. The cigarette smell, so familiar to her, was then in the house. No smoke; just the smell. It lasted a while then left. I’m sure it was my ex. He was close to Max & my kids. Strange, huh?

          • tapestry10

            It is strange, but I believe it. We don’t really know how any of this works, do we? Sounds like he wanted to protect them from his fate. I had an experience along those lines once. After my father died, I had an operation. When I woke up, it was night. No one was there. But I heard my father’s voice saying “Walk. Get up and walk.” So I dragged myself out of bed, all stooped other, because of the surgery, and it felt like my face was six inches from the floor, but I walked. I walked and walked around the floor, around the nurse’s station. And I healed very quickly because of that. They discharged me early. I never heard my father’s voice again.

          • Aleggra

            Wow! I love hearing this. Yes. I believe it was your father and he knew that walking would heal you faster. Thank you. I loved hearing this. I’ll tell my daughter 😀

          • tapestry10

            I’m not pretending to understand any of this. And I never heard anything again. He died more than 20 years ago.

          • Aleggra

            Hi tap, I’ve been upgrading my devices, which means I have no clue as to what I’ve been doing. Anyway, yes…there are so many things in this life that we can’t possibly understand. Even 20 yrs later, it sounds like your father was (and is) watching over you. I feel my mother is also coming to me from time to time in subtle ways. A few weeks ago, I could’ve sworn I smelled her perfume. But who knows for sure? Maybe I’m just missing her. It’s the times when we get caught off guard, not thinking about anyone in particular. After my childhood dog died, I was visiting my mom (she kept him because he was too old to move & I had toddlers when I lived on the island). I was in her kitchen, thinking of a sandwich. Suddenly, out of the corner of my eye, I see this black shape. I turned quickly & he was gone. I knew it was Blackie, my Cocker Spaniel. I just knew it. He was my first dog that I adored. I got him when I was 7 yrs old. I still miss him 🙁

          • tapestry10

            The loss of a dog loss is a very deep pain, and one of the hardest losses of all, especially if it’s an only dog. I’m so sorry. What was Blackie like? I’d love to hear. I’ve never known a Cocker Spaniel. How old were you when you lost him?

          • Aleggra

            Your doggie looks adorable! How old is he/she? I was about 6 or 7 when one X-mas I got this tiny black bundle, wiggling around. I opened up an empty box & then my mom brought him in. He was a mutt but mostly Spaniel dominant–the droopy ears, big brown eyes, curly hair. My mom put him in this good sized laundry room w/newspapers around. I heard him whimpering at night so I took a blanket & pillow and slept with him on the floor. We were inseparable. I left at 18 but my mom wouldn’t let me take him. I didn’t really have a place for him & he was about 12 yrs old & showing his age. I married on the island & only saw him when I’d visit my mom. I was in my 20’s when he stopped eating. My mom had really become attached to him & cried for a whole month anytime we’d talk about him. I got very depressed. I was married w/kids & wanted him on the island but he was nearing almost 18 yrs old plus my mom adored him, too. No one in the family could take him to be put down. We just couldn’t. So a neighbor lady friend offered to take him. My mom & I took turns holding him on the way there, crying. But we could ‘t go in. I feel bad about that but we were wrecks. We cried in the waiting room. I should’ve been stronger but I wasn’t. I got one more dog after that, a pure Russian wolf hound that was given to my husband & me. She was very hyper and protective. We had to give her away 6 months later because she bit one of my daughter’s friends. She went to a ranch. The guy was a trainer & wanted her. That’s why I felt bad for Kim & her dog which was given to her by Kathy, knowing it bit people! What a family

          • tapestry10

            What a sweet child, at 6 or 7 to sleep on the floor of the laundry room so the dog wouldn’t cry through the night. I’ll never see your name again without picturing you doing that. I can see where that dog would have loved you all his life. It’s hard when children grow up and move away from where the dog lives. I suppose it’s hard for everybody. I’m sorry you had that difficult experience with the wolfhound. Everybody who has dogs for many years, sooner or later runs into the one that just doesn’t work out. That’s happened to us. Our dog is 6 and a male. His temperament is like cotton candy, sweet and light and lovely.

          • tapestry10

            Did you upgrade a MacBook? If so, to what did you upgrade it? Did you have any data loss from the upgrade?

          • Aleggra

            The sentimental things are the most difficult to get rid of. I’m leaving the most precious to my kids & family. But same here: I loved garage sales & thrift shops in Santa Barbara (you wouldn’t believe what they sell there. A lot of very wealthy people live in Santa Barbara). But those days are now gone. I once bought a Woolworth’s platter for $1.00 at a thrift store. Many years later, I ended up selling it for $25 on eBay. It was stamped & was a collector’s item LOL.

          • Nick’s daughter

            ITA, Heather won’t get unconditional love from her cabinets Or her excessive # of bathrooms!! But Our dogs, to us -are Priceless!! So are dear friends! What a terrific comment, wish I could upvote MORE 🔝➕➕😊!!

          • tapestry10

            Aw shucks, that’s so sweet–again–Nick’s daughter. Glad you agree. Sounds like you know what’s good and valuable in life. Hope you had a pleasant day today and a very nice weekend.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Dinner was delicious, And it was a blessed day…Best part was talking with Dad on the phone. My dish I baked turned out perfect *Mom’s recipe So it was a happy holiday here. How was Your weekend/Sun?

          • tapestry10

            What was the dish?

          • Nick’s daughter

            Hello, tapestry!! 😊It was her Asparagus casserole!!

          • tapestry10

            That’s interesting. What’s in it? (I like to cook. Always interested in people’s dishes.)

          • Nick’s daughter

            So nice of you☺. Hope you’ll try it/Enjoy it! I was asked by you & (also by Why..is this happening) SO -I am going to post the Recipe on Open Post tonight…if I CAN manage it, I’ll share My picture of the casserole, also. 😉

          • tapestry10

            Oh wow! Did we luck out when you joined this site! If you’re too tired tonight, we’ll look for it tomorrow. In any case, have a good night, and sweet dreams, Nick’s daughter.

          • Nick’s daughter

            I did it!! 😊 My Mom’s recipe posted & So did my photo of my Casserole!! I am just thrilled, pleasantly surprised!! Tapestry,💞 you are always encouraging me with your messages. I’m very appreciative of ‘Random acts of kindness’ & also I pay it forward. Thank you for taking time to send me a good thought. I look forward to tomorrow…

          • tapestry10

            OMG where did you post it? I was looking forward to it! I have asparagus sitting in the fridge waiting for your recipe! How did I miss it? Please tell me where to find it. Thanks, Nick’s daughter.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Last night, in the Open Post…I checked, it is still on there ☺. There’s a photo with it, plus I may have inspired a couple others to post recipes in Open Post/Tuesday..
            Please let me know if you Do/don’t find it…I certainly promised it to you. Will gladly re-post it, tapestry…💙 I’ll wait to hear from you in WED. Open Post😊.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Our friend “Why…is this…” says she is trying the recipe w fresh asparagus Tonight & her cooking tips are also posted there. My Mom’s recipe uses canned Asparagus, but can be adapted as long as you cook the stalks until tender before baking the casserole☺. I hope that’s helpful to you!

          • tapestry10

            Where is it posted?

          • tapestry10

            In which thread is it posted? I can’t find it.

          • Nick’s daughter

            So sorry, Tapestry that you didn’t get it Yet. Recipe is on Tues. Night’s 3/29/2016 Open Post, it has a photo of LVP at the top…
            You have to scroll a few screens down, there was a lot of discussion about the OJ mini-series. Also, other folks Posted some food pics After I did. I’m sorry I missed you Last night. I had insomnia 2 nights prev. & was in bed So Early on Wed. Night.

          • tapestry10

            I appreciate it, but I don’t know how to find previous Open Posts. Sorry. I was really interested, too. Sorry about the insomnia. A friend told me recently she takes melatonin for sleeping and I’m thinking about getting some and trying it out. This is not a recommendation. I’ve never tried it.

          • Nick’s daughter

            On No! Here we go – tapestry, can you click on me “nick’s daughter” in blue? All my posts are There, you can scroll to Tues. & it is There for You!! Let me know, please??

          • Nick’s daughter

            Thanks, I hope it works for you, the herbal remedy/melatonin. I take Rx sleep meds. My Dr. is changing them because mine are Not working Anymore.
            Feeling tired & missed out on a few cool, sunny Spring days…looking fwd. To April, no showers in CA ☔😆, and May flowers 🌹🌻🌸🌷.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Open Post is called “Sippin Tea after dark” and my post was Tues. Night. I really hope that helps you find it Today. LVP’s pic is at the top, tapestry 😏. What a cuddly dog w teddy bear in your avi!! 💕 hello from my 🐶 dog to yours 🐾!

          • tapestry10

            Couldn’t find the “Sippin Tea After Dark” where you posted. (sigh)

          • Nick’s daughter

            Oops! I forgot to say, another favorite part of This Weekend was making new friends here!! You & EP truly Welcomed me…I am grateful to Everyone who shared their thoughts, replied & laughed at my 😆 funny comments!

          • tapestry10

            EP is a treasure. Wait ’til you see the art she posts. And the gifs. And the photos.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Can’t wait to see!! I look forward to all of those…😊

          • Nick’s daughter

            Now, I live in a ‘touristy place’ here in OC…I used to come here for Vacation, back when I lived in the midwest. I have met some of the Nicest people while riding the tram, waiting for a 🎈Parade or 🎆Fireworks…I feel very lucky, now I am ‘meeting’ nice people Here.😊

          • tapestry10

            where in the midwest did you live?

          • Nick’s daughter

            I lived & grew up in the western suburbs, but I worked in the beautiful city of Chicago for the majority of my career!! I once took a train into work when the wind-chill was minus 60 degrees!! What was I thinking?? It was So Brutally cold back then, in wintertime 😨. I do Not miss the snow & ice – especially driving 🚘in it. Now I am in a better climate, because extreme heat & cold impacts my health.

          • tapestry10

            Minus 60! I thought flesh freezes at minus 60! I watch The Good Wife, all of which is supposed to take place in Chicago, but no one’s ever cold, no one wears down coats, there’s never a parka in sight. It’s like none of them have ever heard of the place! What cold weather coat do you recommend? I saw an article in the Chicago Tribune rating down coats and they gave the highest rating to Canada Goose but they use coyote fur and I don’t wear animal fur so that was out. Then I saw an ad online for a down coat at Costco you could send away for (and just pay a small penalty for not being a member. It was only $69! Fabulous coat, best one I ever had, but it’s not down, it’s down plus feathers so it’s a lot heavier than down. But why am I telling you this? You never have to buy a coat ever again!

          • Nick’s daughter

            You are telling me because I love down comforters & feather pillows? That’s True 😉. & I am very glad to hear Your fabulous coat is keeping you toasty warm. Plus, it sounds like a smart buy, Good for you!! Winter coats are so pricey. *I left my long winter coat @Dad’s so when I visit & stay with him…it’s in the closet w my cute ☺ matching👢boots!!

          • tapestry10

            Makes all the difference having a great coat and great boots. I walk the dog at the beach and at the parti in the winter and most of the people are there–almost all–are people with dogs. I forgot to ask what kind of dog you have. I had a feeling you’d be a dog lover!

          • Nick’s daughter

            I have a Yorkie, he’s a little old (16) but I keep him in a ‘puppy cut’ so he never had the long-hair Yorkie look. He lost his vision last year, but he is still happy, otherwise healthy & enjoys his life in the sun! He is my only ‘child’ & I love him. tapestry -You totally ‘get me’ & I Thank you for that!! 💗 I am Pet-friendly to All pets!! Now, include yours – I complimented your avi in prev. Msg. Your dog w teddy bear is Adorable!!

          • tapestry10

            He is a therapy dog. He works with children with emotional problems and he does an unbelievable job. I think the kids they label as having “emotional problems” are just kids who are sad. There are good reasons for their sadness; parents or teachers or both. He brings happiness and joy to them.

          • Nick’s daughter

            That is so great!!🐕 Therapy dogs Do So Much good for the elderly, the young children & anybody in-between!! It takes a special dog to do that, Glad You have one!!

          • tapestry10

            Sorry, I sent this by accident while I was still writing. One of the things that’s so amazing about dogs is that they don’t feel sorry for themselves, the way people do. Your little fellow loses his eyesight– and he bounces right along. They’re wonderful that way. We can learn so much from them. They’re magnificent. He’s my only child, too. I think we vibrate sympathetically.

          • Nick’s daughter

            I thought the tears in my eyelashes froze ⛄& iced over!! Hard to breathe/scarf covering my whole face…Any exposed skin could’ve gotten ‘frostbite’ ❄ at Warp speed. It was scary cold & took me some time in my office before I ‘pinked up’ & got the chill out of my bones. Should’ve stayed home, Most of my co-workers called in!!

          • tapestry10

            What kind of work were you doing in those freezing days?

          • Nick’s daughter

            I believe I worked in every skyscraper in downtown Chicago, my fave was the John Hancock bldg. on Michigan Avenue. I worked for many Fortune 500 companies, in the Corporate offices/headquarters. But my career First started in Concert Promotion, it’s what I Always wanted to do! I was put in charge of the Contract Dept. – So exciting, if we promised *Band * Any specialty food/bevs/or pinball machines backstage or in their dressing rooms, I had to coordinate w Caterer & other staff to make it happen!! & I needed to alert my Boss of any Requirements listed in the contract/rider before he signed off on it, for example a built-out extension from the stage so *performer* could go out into Audience & interact with fans!! Whew, long post!! Hope you are still with me…😊

          • tapestry10

            Oh so YOU’RE the person who can make this stuff happen! I’ve thought about this many times when I see an extremely complicated event unfolding with everything working to perfection. I can’t even imagine how people like you are able to think this stuff through so well that it just clicks along. It really seems impossible to me. The only complicated event I ever attempted in my life was my first wedding–and that doesn’t count because there was a wedding planner who did the actual coordinating. Are you still doing that kind of work now?

          • Nick’s daughter

            I planned my Own wedding, but I had help from a coordinator…it was a Fairy tale wedding @Walt Disney World wedding pavilion in FL! Sadly, My career ended, back in Chicago. It was due to health issues, my Doctor’s orders. I wasn’t promoting Concerts anymore. I was a Marketing Manager, working 60-70 hrs per week when I had to stop working.

          • tapestry10

            Are you ok now?

          • Nick’s daughter

            I am Ok, but the dual diagnosis Was the *Early end of my career. I have two Chronic illnesses & no longer work. I was able to be a care-giver (along w my Dad) for my Mom when she was battling cancer. Mom chose hospice care @home, so I stayed there around the clock & did everything the Nurse taught me to do for my Mom. I put her injections into her port, Dad got her the dog she Really wanted. She outlived her prognosis, but Mom passed away at home, her choice. Still, heartbreaking & devastating to lose her.
            My marriage ended before the 5 year anniversary, that’s a whole other story. I lived alone w my little dog in ‘starter apt.’ after the divorce & spent lots of time w my Dad. We grieved & I could Not have moved away from him. I wasn’t happy in the apartment, but I could afford it there, so I did.
            Now, Dad’s still there, living independently in his townhouse -where he & Mom lived. I Finally moved -w Dad’s blessing. He said, “Go to your Happy place, All we wanted was for you to be healthy & happy. You are happiest on your trips to CA. Promise me you’ll come home & visit me whenever you can”. I flew out w my 🐶 + 3 suitcases. Dog flew in the ✈ with me.
            My long story keeps getting longer, sorry. I saw Dad twice last year, I stayed at home – 12 days last Spring, 7 days in Nov. I am getting on a ✈ in a few weeks, got an round-trip tkt. On sale, Can’t Wait to see/hug my Dad!💕!

          • tapestry10

            Oh, Nick’s daughter, I’m so sorry you’re battling chronic illnesses. I can imagine how much it meant to your Mom to have you by her side nursing her as you did. I know what it meant, because I’m a cancer survivor myself and I know what’s it like to go through the whole nine yards that they throw at you, with every treatment making you sicker and sicker. But hospitals are awful. You spared her that. Living out on the coast, is there anyone around to help you out? Are you liking it out there? I hope you’re not in pain. I’m glad you have that sweet little dog (he looks little in the picture, is he?) by your side. It makes a huge difference to have a dog when you’re ill. Plus, if you’re well enough to walk him, a dog makes the whole world a friendlier place. People just naturally start talking when you’re walking with a dog.

          • Nick’s daughter

            tapestry, Thank you. More importantly, You are a survivor & I am blessed to know you. Because you understand fully what I wrote, what she went through & how much I still miss her!! You stay strong, I admire what you shared about your ‘therapy dog’, he’s doing great things!!
            It was my privilege to care for her, and be sure she got “her way” & her wishes were honored…I’d do Anything for my Dad, he is terrific health-wise, so I do what I can from here & When I go to stay & visit…Soon!!
            I have CFS & Fibromyalgia (always tired, constant pain) & a few other things on my list. It’s what I have, but not who I am.
            Yes, my Yorkie is a little guy, (he’s in the pic ☺) & I am able to walk him. Since he is blind now, I carry him out to the front lawn, stand with him & talk to him while he walks around. I always say hello to neighhbors, other dogs & all the kids.

          • tapestry10

            The Yorkie is adorable. I’m very, very sorry about the CFS and the Fibromyalgia. I read medical websites a lot, so if I come across anything helpful, I’ll let you know. Have you found anything that works for the pain?

          • Nick’s daughter

            Thanks, he is a cute dog & I just love Yorkies!! I appreciate you for looking into medical websites for new info. I am also looking for info, whether it’s a clinical trial or a med. Being used off-label. I advocate for my health. Not much has changed for treatment, my Dr. treats my individual symptoms the best way he can. He handles pain mgmt. with Rx Pain meds. I take 1/2 pills (split them) but it feels very achy & arthritis-like in my joints/bones. I often have Major back pain, sciatic nerve flare-ups are the Worst I ever had. Am thankful Dad doesn’t have daily pain.

          • tapestry10

            Nd, I’m not a doctor, or any kind of medical professional, but I’ll tell you two true stories both of which end VERY happily, involving at least some of the pain you’re having. The first is the arthritis ache-joints-bones. I had that and 8 different doctors over about 4 years told me it was arthritis (you see a lot of drs. when u have cancer) and then one day, I showed my blood tests to my husband’s nephrologist because she is smarter than all the others. She said, I wonder if it’s a parathyroid problem? I had never heard of a parathyroid; I looked it up, it turns out they are 4 glands that control a lot of things, stomach, intestine, digestion, bones, brain, a lot of things. She sent me for a nuclear scan, which is a surprisingly pleasant test because they shoot gamma rays at you and they gave me a feeling of well-being. So the test comes back, and yes, there’s a parathyroid problem. Next, a surgeon, who says they’re going to take one out, but don’t worry, you don’t need it. He also says, this operation is not to make things better; this operation is a CURE. So I go in there, wake up hours later and when the anesthesia wears off, suddenly, the shooting pains in my legs are gone. The joint pains, gone. It’s like someone lifted up a magic slate and disappeared the picture. Anyway, that’s one story. The other one is about the sciatic nerve. Very bad pain, started in back, shot down my leg, pain killers, codeine (which has a lot of side effects) misery, missing work…They put me in the hospital. Tests, this, that. The neurosurgeon said I need to have a fusion operation for the discs in my back. I know about that operation. It’s a loser. People always suffer when they have it and suffer for years. So I said no, absolutely not. I checked myself out of the hospital against dr.’s orders, came home, and a friend of mine told me to throw away the codeine, which I did, and go to this chiropractor. I did. After 1 visit, I didn’t have pain for 15 minutes. After the second visit, no pain for years. (I went back again years later, he fixed it again, painlessly and I’ve never been back again. It’s now many years later. So those are the two stories. I hope the solution for you might lie here. They say people meet for a reason. Could this be why we met? Warm wishes, Nick’s daughter.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Wow, How inspiring that you would share Your stories (*with Happy Endings, which I Just Love!!) I don’t use Tyl. W codeine, thankfully. Side efx are just awful. I never heard of ‘parathyroid’ So that’s new info I can discuss w my Dr. THANK YOU!! Also, I am thrilled to hear if your experience w an excellent Chiropractor!! I did go to one, just one time…he spent maybe 2 mins. ‘Adjusting my neck/spine’. I heard a click. Had zero improvement, did not go back there. Maybe, time to TRY again!! I’ll find a better/different one!! Reading your story-I feel like I am getting a new perspective!! Feeling hopeful! That’s a great gift 🎁 today!! I am grateful to you, always🌷🌹💗. Nd

          • tapestry10

            Here what the guy did–and there was click of any kind. He put my on a table on a my stomach and adjusted the table so it was on a gentle diagonal, with my head lower than my feet. Like if you were lying a kids’ see-saw, but not so extremely high or low. When you’re in this position, it takes the weight off the discs, so immediately, the pain subsides. Then he put some oil on lower part of my back and then he put a sound or ultrasound machine, i’m not sure what it was, but it gave off a low hum and it felt like a gentle vibration and heat on my back. I could barely feel it. It worked, though. And even though there was no pain after the second visit, I went to him maybe 10 or 12 times in all. If you get this sort of description of the chiropractor from anyone, this is the kind to go to. Nothing heavy, no twisting, no cracking, no clicking, nothing aggressive. This is the deal that worked.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Sounds great! I didn’t get Anything comparable to That! Now, I know what questions to ask, I can make a better choice & give This treatment a try. And I Want to give it a 2nd chance…I’ll start looking @chiro. 😷 here & keep you posted 💙.

          • tapestry10

            I hope you’re able to get recommendations from people who have had success seeing them.

          • Nick’s daughter

            I’ll definitely try to get them, and I’ll inquire until I find the Best, offering the treatment as you described it to me. I do want to have a good outcome after giving it another try! I am better prepared & informed now! 😊

          • Nick’s daughter

            Norco works & I can function with it. It comes in generic form, which costs less. I took one stronger pain med. But it was very Short-term, post-outpatient surgery last year. The powerful pain meds -as I am sure you know from experience, can be scary. I am grateful for the one that kept my Mom comfortable, but I am always taking Less than Dr. prescribes, due to high cost of meds. I want (& Need) to be able to keep up with Dad, when I go see him!! 😊

          • tapestry10

            I couldn’t agree with you more. I know there are a lot of people who like hydrocodone and that other one, but I can’t stand those drugs. I don’t even fill prescriptions for them. I take the generic acetaminophen/Tylenol made by CVS and it does the trick. I know there’s a heroin epidemic that starts with the legal drugs, but I think they affect different people in very different ways. I don’t get a high from them. I just feel sick.

          • Nick’s daughter

            You’ve been through So Much & Came out Surviving! The way you are managing your pain now, Oh-I’m so happy for you. I hope to have some of my Best days there. Feeling better/happier. Hope he sees my small improvements health-wise Since last year. I need to check on Dad, as well. We talk about his meds & his health, too. Here is my 🕯new symbol. A candle I lit to symbolize hope…this one is for you 🕯.

          • Nick’s daughter

            I have no family here in CA. I have some very good friends I consider my “west coast family”. Sometimes, they invite me to Thanksgiving or to a party or celebration. I told my 😷, there’s Dad, my little old dog 🐶 & then me.
            I talk to Dad daily, sometimes more than once. I made 2 ✈ trips back to see him last year (*staying longer than one week whenever possible, because I have a good friend who cares for 🐶 when I go to Dad’s 💙).
            I have a trip coming up – this month, we are Looking forward to it & counting down the days!! I just can’t wait to hug him & see my Dad 💝!

          • tapestry10

            Your Dad doesn’t want to move out to CA? Are there other children in the family? I’m wondering what’s keeping him home?

          • Nick’s daughter

            No, he is happy living on his home, independently. It isn’t his dream to live in CA, it’s mine. My parents used to go away for winter, until My Mom couldn’t travel anymore. I believe he wants to stay in that home where he last lived with my Mom. I have no siblings. Dad is active at his church & another one…he goes 2x a week. He volunteers at his American Legion & helps his fellow veterans, & they play BINGO once a week☺!! He plays cards with other seniors, also. He’s a busy man & still driving. Our agreement is that If HE ever needed me, to drive him around or to make it possible for him to stay at home…I offered to move back home. He’s close to Betty White’s age! I hope he gets to be 100!! 😊

          • tapestry10

            Your relationship with your father sounds like a very beautiful one. He’s lucky to have you and you’re lucky to have him! My Dad was a veteran, too. In what branch of the service was yours?

          • Nick’s daughter

            He was in the Army, served overseas in World War II. How about your Dad, tapestry? I’d like to thank the stars above for making it possible for us to meet Here. I find myself looking forward to your posts! This is the Last msg. I’ll read tonight😪. So, Pleasant dreams, goodnight.

          • tapestry10

            He was a pilot in WWII in the Army Air Corps. Unfortunately, he and my mother were stationed at White Sands, NM when they tested the bomb. They went out to close to ground zero, where the desert sand had melted down to glowing, green glass. They are both exposed to radiation. It wasn’t good. My father was sick for most of his life, then my mother. But my father never complained, ever, or asked for any compensation and neither did my mother. He said ‘others got worse.’ That’s all he ever said about it.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Oh, tapestry. Sad to hear Your dear parents both endured that. Such a Brave family you have! We always honor the Veterans, our freedom isn’t free. My own Dad also doesn’t want to discuss his service overseas. But, while I still have him, I need him to know he Is Still my hero & so Was Mom.
            Sending 💜💙💝 to you and Your family, from Dad & Nd.

          • tapestry10

            Thank you and my best to your father .Both my parents are gone. I think it was typical of their generation, the one Tom Brokaw wrote a book about called “The Greatest Generation” that they were humble and modest, in addition to being brave. Let’s not talk about this more, though. I get very sad thinking about it and I’d rather not. Wishing you a happy weekend, Nd.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Absolutely, you are right. Changing the subject, it was 35 degrees at Dad’s. 85 for me, here. What on Earth am I going to wear?? I live in sundresses, but he asked me to pack 🌞 & warmer temps. In my luggage 😉!

          • tapestry10

            Didn’t you say your good coat and boots are out at your Dad’s, waiting for you? They’ll keep you cozy ad snug. When are you leaving? Are you flying out there?

          • Nick’s daughter

            Yes, I do leave my ‘winter Best’ @Dad’s 😊. Last Nov. I only packed my new gloves/hat/scarf set…and I never even needed them! 😉 It was unseasonably warm (in the 60s for my Last trip). Yes, I am ✈ & leaving next week!! I do Not like packing. I’ve been putting things near the luggage, then I stay up the night before & organize it into the suitcase. Lots of things are gifts to Dad, so they are only going on a one-way Trip ☺.

          • Nick’s daughter

            It was a tough day here. Sometimes, I overdo it…then I get the message to slow down & pace myself. I multi- tasked my butt off, now I am crashing @930pm. No more tv, going to read & rest.. {hugs & on to happier things}. I promise to keep up the cheer, Count down the days…Ok?

          • tapestry10

            Hugs to you, and light and music and sunshine, birds tweeting outside your window, sweet flowers in your garden. All the best that spring can bring, sweet Nd.

          • Nick’s daughter

            This message was a happy 😊surprise, like when I get a card in the mail! I still send snail mail, I enjoy writing a nice card…
            For tapestry, “happy Easter🐰, happy Spring! 🌹
            happy, happy Everything!!” ☺ 😆 😇 + hugs, Nd & 🐾

          • tapestry10

            Lovely sentiments galore.
            Who would need to ask for more?
            Cool and pure as sparkling water
            Is our charming friend Nick’s daughter
            Daily brightens up the site
            With her postings which delight
            Colors, pictures, flowers, bright
            All of which are outta sight!
            With joy each day she posts her art
            A bubbling mix of mind and heart
            In her posts does love abide
            She writes with puppy by her side
            So I’ll delight to see her again
            From her virtual friend, from Tapestry10!

          • Nick’s daughter

            You have mad poetry skills, 💖 Tapestry10!! I will treasure this Always!! I’ve Never even been Mentioned in a poem before😶! This is just incredible, you sent 💌 all this Joy to Me today. Thank You, from the bottom of my 💜heart…I am smiling big 😆 & it’s 530am here!! What an amazing & talented friend you are! Lucky me that we met & we are both so pet-friendly! 🐶🐕 I hope you have a magical day, filled with All good things! 💐

          • tapestry10

            😉 Nd, I was trying to write it at almost 3 in the morning and kept nodding off, then waking myself up and kicking myself to finish the poem! Then having to fight to make myself stay awake. I’m so glad it turns out that I was awake enough to send it before I fell asleep! I”m so glad you liked it, Nd. 😉

          • Nick’s daughter

            Liked it? I love it!!💕⚘Am going to read it to my Dad later! I am not very creative @3am, but You definitely Are! Do you think you will try Melatonin to help you sleep? I mentioned my insomnia & you were considering trying a Supplement. I hope it does the trick!

          • tapestry10

            I did try Melatonin the other night. I got the one with a high rating on Amazon. Disaster! I felt woozy and drugged and dizzy and I couldn’t walk in a straight line, but I also couldn’t fall asleep! I took it about 1 am and was still up at 3 when I took the CVS version of Tylenol PM. It was terrible! Have you ever tried it?

          • Nick’s daughter

            I Have tried Tylenol PM, name brand & Also, store brand…I find it doesn’t kick in Quickly, but the “groggy feeling” lasts well into the Next day…
            I have never tried Melatonin supplements. I used to use Rx Ambien, in generic 10 mg. Until it stopped being effective. I never had the side efx. Some people get; sleep eating, sleep walking/talking or Any activities. It worked Fast & wore off so I woke up clear-headed in the morning. Sorry you aren’t sleeping well, wishing you pleasant dreams & A good, solid night of 😪 sleep….tonight!💜🌹

          • tapestry10

            Thanks, Nd! You too!

          • Nick’s daughter

            Tapestry, as you know I have CFS/+ a sleep disorder…an idea just came to me for Your insomnia! You took med. @1am, in your comment…
            A new-er Rx sleep med called ‘Intermezzo’ is Specifically for use by ‘middle of the night insomniacs’. It is a “get Back to sleep pill” fast-acting & low-dose (1.75 mg). I am not a Dr., I did discuss this med. with my😷 Dr. since I needed to make a change of my own Rx. He explained the difference between Intermezzo & the one he prescribed for me to try. If you wish, you may want to ask for a 7-10 qty. – Trial period or if your Dr. has samples from the pharmaceutical reps. I wish you a peaceful night, with quality sleep…It makes a huge difference in My day if I slept well the night before. Rest, relax & healing happens overnight. I didn’t mean to overstep in Any way. I simply want to help, hope this info is useful. You deserve the Very best health care. 💙💜 Nd

          • Aleggra

            I tried Melatonin, tap…years ago. Insomnia runs in my family (mostly the women). My mom, daughter, me, cousins and now my 10 yr old grandson, which is strange. Have you tried Valerian Root? It’s not as strong as Melatonin, which used to knock me out. I didn’t like the feeling at all. Try different teas & herbs. You’ll find something that works for you. Good luck.

          • tapestry10

            Thanks, Aleggra. The problem was melatonin wasn’t strong enough. Thanks for the tip about Valerian root!

          • Aleggra

            You’re Welcome! I hope Valerian Root helps. You never know what will work until we try it. Wishing you sweet 💤

          • EllaFitzbunbun

            Betty lives close by me in Carmel.

          • Nick’s daughter

            Guess ‘Wardrobe Dept.’ on Good Wife Never saw a Chicago winter – Ever?? When Julianna M. was on ER w George Clooney, THEY all dressed (correctly) like it was severely cold out in winter months 👍👍.

          • tapestry10

            Exactly! All the outdoor scenes on The Good Wife make it look like it’s April in Paris! And in reality, half the city is walking around wearing sleeping bags! (or coats that look like them, anyway.)

          • Nick’s daughter

            Lol at April in Paris, we need to straighten them out @The Good Wife 😉. Sounds like you really enjoy that show, I like ANYTHING filmed in Chicago!! My Fave movie= “About Last Night” the original, Yes-filmed in Chicago. Some parts are so true-to-life, it’s like watching Demi Moore portaying pieces of My own life, back in the day. I sometimes catch an ep. of Mike & Molly, but that’s ending…

          • Nick’s daughter

            I used to watch NYPD Blue, was just a huge fan of that Show. Also, Ally McBeal was must-see tv for me. I like Nashville, these days, for non-reality tv. Plus, I love anything w Gordon Ramsay 😍, my celebrity chef. I especially like him interacting with little children on MasterChef Jr. Less swearing, more smiling ☺.

          • tapestry10

            Why don’t you just reply to this message with the recipe? I’ll get it the next time I’m on the site.

          • Nick’s daughter

            I’d love to!!…it’s off Topic, tho. Not related to Erika Girardi. Can I do that here, do you know? That’s why I put the recipe in Open Post/Any topic, so I didn’t break any rules of this site. Did you find it in my posts? I had hoped you would!

          • tapestry10

            I was just re-reading your post. I think you’re amazing. I can’t believe all that you handled. What was the hardest part and what was the best part?

          • Aleggra

            Hi, tap. Just read this post. Thank you for the compliment and right back at you. You’re also an amazing woman. The hardest part for me were the lean years before my ex-husband got the Fireman job. I worked full-time while he was supposed to be watching our children. I’d come home from work sometimes & find a stranger babysitting our kids. That didn’t last long after I read my husband the riot act. He was on unemployment. They had extended unemployment that year b/c of the economy. We were very young & didn’t even have money for a couch. We used a single bed in the living room w/a cover. Every piece of furniture was used. Since we lived in a small town, friends helped us. I was 21 yrs old, my ex was 22. Our kids 3 & 4 yrs old. That was a tough time. Our families couldn’t help & we never asked. Finally, he got the fireman job and everything changed. We bought a couch! Yay. I was so happy. I kept working but later on I could take time off to be w/the kids. The phone co let us do that during slow times. We had lots of friends, the ocean, the hills where I’d hike w/my friends. The population in Avalon was less than 1,500 people year round. The town was the size of a high school. The town is 1sq mile. The rest of the island was hills, buffaloes, deer, goats and wild pigs. You can look it up & see how pretty it still is. I look back now & realize that even though we were poor as church mice, these were my happiest years. I had great friends that I’m still friends with today. So when I watch these women pretending to be friends, I know that there’s no amount of money that can give anyone the wonderful friendships I had. True friendships. We used to say, men come & go in our lives but friends last forever. I didn’t have backstabbing, disloyal friendships. These BH women may have money but without true friendships, they’re missing out on what life has to offer for free. I’m also like Eileen in terms of not caring about brand name purses. As long as I like something, I don’t care who made it. Remember Carrie Bradshaw & her shoes in Sex and the City? Those expensive shoes didn’t add anything to her life. And if I remember right, she wasn’t very happy most of the time. Now tell me. Are you close to Montauk–the island on ‘The Affair’? The lifestyle reminds me of Catalina Island.

          • tapestry10

            Long Island is shaped like a fish. The head of it is Nassau County. All the rest is Suffolk County. When you come to the tail of the fish, the tail splits off into two parts. The top part is the North Fork. The bottom part is the South Fork, and the south fork is the Hamptons. If you drive all the way east, until you come to the water and the end of America, that is Montauk. It has a different feel from the rest of the Hamptons, more beachy. There used to be a psychiatrists’ enclave in the Hamptons and it was cheaper than the rest of the Hamptons because it’s so far away from the City. I think Montauk is about 90 minutes further east than the first Hampton you come to, which is Westhampton. Montauk is less a part of the “scene” in than rest of the Hamptons. The “scene” is very concerned with fundraisers, cocktail parties, dinner parties, country clubs, golf, disco into the wee hours (for the young.) and it all adds up to having to get your hair done all the time, having to have nice outfits–not the glittery messes they wear on RHOBH, but linens, fine cottons, sort of thing. The traffic in the Hamptons is a nightmare. We used to take shortcuts, but they don’t exist any more. Every place is crowded and booked. You have to book tables at restaurants 3 weeks in advance. If you’re unfortunate enough to have house guests, and unfortunate enough to be a woman, they come out from the City on Friday, then go to supermarkets out there which are so crowded, it’s like they were giving food away. Then on to the house, doing the linens, getting the food ready. The cocktail parties start about 4, on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and you go to about five of them, then dinner at 8:30 or 9 or even 10. Very few people ever go to the beach. Ever. The best description of how intense the social life is in the Hamptons came from a woman I know, who came back from a Hamptons weekend looking like hell and when she went back to her city apartment, the doorman said to her: “Why do you always look exhausted? Don’t you have a beach house?” I think the place that’s probably the most like the place where you grew up is on the un-famous North Fork of Long Island. It isn’t a Hampton at all, but they sometimes call it “the quiet Hampton.”

        • Babson_Chick

          Right on!! Every woman should be able to support herself if needed & it helps to be independent too

          • tapestry10

            I think women should support themselves whether it’s needed or not. Money earned has a completely different feeling from money accepted from someone else. Women who support themselves are less likely to feel trapped in relationships. I think it’s good for a man to know that a woman can walk out the door if she isn’t treated well. And I guess it’s true the other way around, too.

          • Babson_Chick

            Yes!! I married into a very wealthy family and didn’t work & I asked for divorce & had to get a job after not working for 10 yrs but I did it – kinda scary but I got the kids & furniture (still have both) lol

      • Emerson Williams

        Well-put.

      • killy_sd

        We’ve seen how he speaks to her and her reactions. She’s a very sparkly doormat with nice jewelry.

    • belleyd

      how shallow…so Erika is a success for marrying a old rich guy? Your standards for success are screwed up.

      • Madeleine Loudbear

        A year later, reading these posts. It’s not my standard. Unless you walk in another’s shoes judgement should be held. I love older men for their knowledge and experienced men are much more interesting. Would I bang him, no, but I’m not gonna judge what another woman finds attractive. Perhaps his stability and his success turns her on. WhatEva, it’s nobody’s business is It? We don’t have to sleep with the guy. Will you say the same of Melania trump? Rich men are attractive to some, get over it. Shallow, what’s shallow is your judging. That’s what’s shallow.

      • lost_grrl

        Have you seen pictures of her husband from back when they met?

  • Mrs.K

    Perhaps she just was not cut out for motherhood and realised it? Better the child grows up with a loving dad than a mom that is cold. She was very young when she had a baby.

    • She had her eye on MONEY. Just admit it and move on.

      • you_will_never_get_out_alive

        Holy sh**!

        • Sounds like the best thing she could have done for him. Obviously, he grew up well adjusted with morals and values.

          • truth boom

            Wow. This world is sick. Broken families everywhere… why have children if to only abandon them?

    • truth boom

      If she was not cut out for motherhood then why procreate? 🙂

      • lost_grrl

        Not all pregnancies are planned. What if she would have given him up for adoption? Nobody ever speaks of adoption as abandonment but rather a brave choice. Why is this different?

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  • nick

    Another trashy article with no real facts from this “author”. Disgusting!

  • Jersey

    I guess it sounds better to say he was in school in NYC? The other article states that he was raised in Jersey City. I live in Hoboken, which is literally walking distance from Downtown J.C & the J.C Heights. It’ not a great or wealthy town,especially not while he was growing up. However, in the last 10 ish years downtown has become much better.

  • Julie S

    A three year old needs their mother. Erika deemed her own needs more important than those of her child- that speaks volumes to her character. I think Erika has a weary sadness about her, maybe she realizes she is a basic bitch. Even though she married for money- those are some hard earned dollars being married to Don Rickles Ball Sac! I am just guessing but I don’t think there is much Mrs Girardi could be proud of…

    • you_will_never_get_out_alive

      Would you think this if it was the father that left? Of course not. Actually an unhappy mother is just that and worse than one that makes a choice to leave the son where he would be well taken care of

      • belial

        Anyone who WOULDN’T think this if it was the husband left would be an idiot. ‘Deadbeat Dad’ isn’t a term of fantasy, sugar.

        • you_will_never_get_out_alive

          Actually men who leave like she did and do the right thing by the children wouldn’t be hated as much as a mother who does the same thing. I have 4 stepdaughters who were left with their father by their mother and she moved 2000 miles away and it was the absolute best thing for those girls too.

          • truth boom

            Omg. No. if these people would grow up and be a parent to their children that would be the right thing to do

          • you_will_never_get_out_alive

            No actually you have no clue about my stepdaughters mother – she did the right thing absolutely and totally for all involved.

          • killy_sd

            So you feel Erika was an unfit mother and did what was best for her son by leaving him thousands of miles away?

          • you_will_never_get_out_alive

            Where did I say she was unfit? I said just the opposite actually and I feel just the opposite. Unless you know all of the circumstances and reasoning it’s not your place to judge. Mothers who do what’s best for their children no matter if they keep them with them or leave them in good hands with the other parent are doing the right thing. In case you didn’t know they have and always had a close relationship in spite of the miles and the son lives with her and Tom now too as an adult.

          • Killy_Killy

            That was a typo. I meant say not an unfit mother. Of course I have no idea if they have a close relationship or not. On WWHL she started to say he lived nearby and quickly said he lived with her which I find odd at his age. They very likely have a close relationship now but I have no idea if it’s always been that way and neither do you.
            Also, I have seen pics of her and Tom early on in their relationship and he was an attractive man. The age difference just starts to really show as he gets older and she keeps getting Botox and fillers.
            My personal opinion of Erika is she’s pretty cagey and cold. I’m not a fan.

          • you_will_never_get_out_alive

            I love her but I agree on what he used to look like… With that said I am a fan but on WWHL I thought she came off as rather rude and controlling always talking over the other guest and being the center of attention. I read the next day either she tweeted or someone else did that she had started hitting the cocktails like noon that day so that would explain it. She’s usually a bit more polite…. I was just a little taken aback.

          • you_will_never_get_out_alive

            How was she not a parent? She was still his mother and did the right thing for her son at the time.

          • you_will_never_get_out_alive

            OK so you’re saying the mother of my stepdaughterstuff should have just kept the girls and dragged them through the her mentally ill life right? You need to grow up and stop judging things and situations you know nothing about.

        • truth boom

          Preach!

      • truth boom

        You’re sick. Step up to the plate and grow up and be a parent if you choose to procreate. Anyone would think badly of a father who left the children, it’s just usually more common. Of course you would think badly of a mother who abandoned children as well.

        • you_will_never_get_out_alive

          I’m sick? How? There are circumstances where it is best for the children for one parent or the other to leave and give up their rights. Unless you know the whole story then you don’t know jack. The mother was mentally ill and unable to care for my stepdaughters got it? So just sit down and shut up

        • you_will_never_get_out_alive

          Anyone angry and uninformed might think badly – I don’t judge – too bad you do. Good luck with that hatred and judgment. Int he words of Erika herself … 2 f*cks she doesn’t give

        • you_will_never_get_out_alive

          I’m sick? No I’m realistic in knowing some children are happier with another parent. Stfu

    • Dee

      I found some information her ex owns a porno site, Hunk Mansion, something like that.

  • puffypuss

    Wow classy!

  • Katee

    This article sounds like another trashy tabloid sensation that doesn’t have all the facts. Just because Erika chose to better her life and have her husband take care of her son does not mean she abandoned him. How does one draw that conclusion, Ken and Lisa V got married and he left his kids in the UK, is that abandonment? There are countless people that are now successful because they had to leave their families to succeed. People are so quick to judge because she is a woman instead of a man who did this. She is now in a position to help her family and appears to have done so. Kudos to her!

    • Aleggra

      Katy, I think it has more to do with Erika being Yolanda’s friend than anything else. Would anyone be saying this about Erika if she were LVP’s BFF? I doubt it.

    • Yourworstnightmare

      Ken had sole custody of his son…where did you get that he abandoned him?!

    • Artemis

      Ken and Lisa raised their children in Europe. Ken had sole custody of his son to his first partner.

    • BurrRobson

      Rationalize much? Face it, the boy was left abandoned by a whore.

    • truth boom

      Omg. You are sick. That is the definition of abandonment, period.

  • Kat ACMilanista

    She was all coked up on wwhl last night so that and this article made my opinion of her drop down to zero.

    • you_will_never_get_out_alive

      And how can you possibly know that she was “all coked up”? What an idiotic thing to ASSume!

      • She was, her eyes were dilated so much you could see it even from a distance.

  • SHONDRA

    Funny the article doesn’t bother to find out or not tell when did the son come to CA, since he is a copl for LAPD. Or did she keep in connect with her son who she left with his dad? This is no different than a man who leaves after a divorce. I doubt she doing drugs as one person for the fact it would agr her quick and she wouldn’t be curvy, plus an attorney for a husband and a cop for son?!

    • BurrRobson

      He came as an adult. He never lived with the whore and her sugar daddy.

    • bravelibrity•

      And Tommy lives with mommy now right?

  • Jmroses

    I think that’s a very unfair assumption. Unless you spoke with her husband about why he retained custody, then your just throwing darts in the air. If a man does that, it’s not news, so why is it when a woman does? She may have wanted him to have a stable, NY life!

    • belial

      Then why not move the son out to live with her after she hooked grandpa, genius?

      • BurrRobson

        Because he was looking for a live in whore, not a family. He probably can’t perform anymore and she gives him a wee bit of macheesmo.

      • truth boom

        Exactly!!! And “hooked” being the operative word! 🙂

      • buttonhead

        Maybe G’pa didn’t want another man’s kid living in his house.

    • Artemis

      If you lose custody you stay in the state. If your kid means more to you than a chance at fame. Erika’s priorities speak loud and clear.

      • hexe

        Who said she ‘lost custody’? I believe she stated she made the choice to surrender sole custody to the child’s father. Not the same thing.

    • Lindsey Mozzo

      Well, it’s pretty likely because she wasn’t willing to provide that herself. Fathers have never been looked upon as brave or honorable for abandoning their kids because the Mother was a more stable person. Why should this be any different?

      • truth boom

        Exactly!!!

    • AndSo

      Men do this constantly and no one raises an eyebrow. Do I believe that Erika likely targeted and married her husband for his wealth? Probably. Do I think that the fact that she is skewered over the coals for not making her son a priority is sexist? Absolutely.

      She behaved like a lot of men do when it comes to small children from a failed relationship. They move onto a better piece and are part-time parents at best. She just happens to be female.

    • Kay

      Thank you! Someone else has common sense in this thread. Everyone is so quick to judge without even knowing the facts!

      • PLP

        What I find a bit troubling is that she moved clear across the country, ensuring she would not be able to see him often. I relocated after my divorce and my daughter lived with her grand parents in the same city. I spoke to her daily and saw her often. Women are held to a somewhat different standard because we carry that child in our bodies and have a special bond with them.

    • lost_grrl

      Yes! You never hear it called abandonment when the genders are reversed.

  • criley

    She reminds me of Anna Nicole!

    • Why is this happening to us?

      Yes!! Me too.

    • Yourworstnightmare

      …if Anna Nicole was sober…EG was slicker by remaining sober and instead indulging herself with an “alter” ego”, which I believe is her true self, in order to cleanse her mind from all the negative things she had to do for MONEY.

    • BurrRobson

      She does me, too. Only she’s not beautiful and Anna Nichole was. She is just a common looking slut under a pound of make up.

  • Leslie Mann

    Erika who? She only met Lisa vanderpump for a minute and yet she has a lot of negative comments about her, even though the two families just had a very nice and friendly dinner without any problem, how dumb is Erika,? obviously she was coached by Yolanda!

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  • Teresa

    I’m not a fan of Erika at all because of her affiliation with Yolanda. Its true that you are judged by the company you keep. What is bothersome is her dislike for LVP, when it was not warranted. Enter Yolanda…who has filled Erika’s head with all the wrongs LVP has done. Its so obvious that Yolanda has done the same thing with Brandi too. With that said, I think on her own, Erika is perfect for the HWs. She has her own issues with her controlling husband, who has purchased her love, er, uh…well, I wouldn’t call it love. As far as her son, thank GOD he had a father who raised him. Can you imagine his life with Erika?

    • KKO

      It should really read, “He had a Parent who LOVED him”.

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    Erika is a sleazy bimbo with her eye on other peoples money…she married for money, she whored for money, and she’ll end up with nothing but money…her funeral will be attended by accountants and bank managers…

    • kate

      and hopefully her paid gays.

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  • no-never-ok-maybe

    Damn, by not coming here inbetween sister wives Im missing alot. I kinda liked erika but leaving your kid and Never taking him back is a Huge No No. My impression of her has changed.

    • Kay

      So you’re going to let some writer who has never even met her and doesn’t know the story change your opinion of someone? Anyone with sense can tell this writer is bitter and jealous. Writers are meant to be impartial and professional and she’s being emotional as heck.

      • no-never-ok-maybe

        Lol Kay, its been months since Ive even been on this is site, but I will reply. I still like Erica, but once you decide to have a child it is your duty as a Woman/Mother NEVER to leave said child for fame and glory. That Child Becomes #1 in Your Life! Having a child is the biggest decision a woman can make and it becomes her job to raise that child the best she can. I have to admit it Did make me think differently about her as I have to take into consideration the effect on the child for her actions. Some times its not all about “YOU”, its about the Life you have brought into the world. As the years went by I have to think that Erica regrets leaving her boy to be raised by others and that her son Resents his mother for that decision, its Human Nature. Bottom line is, if you have a child your life is now all about that child and no longer yours to just take off to find yourself, she should have thought about that before she she brought a life into this world.

        • KKO

          Kay obviously does not have children.

          My son was MY life and I gladly gave up silly dreams because he is the MOST important person in my life.

  • Lindsey Mozzo

    When asked about her son at the reunion, she answered so matter-of-fact. We respect each other…..well isn’t that just warm n fuzzy?!

    • truth boom

      Haha!!

  • BurrRobson

    It appears the hoe is a skank.

  • LilyPower

    She is garbage. Would like to know if she paid support. WTF is wrong with Tom G? If she wanted her son, surely Tom would have encouraged/helped her to get some form of custody.

    • truth boom

      True!!!!

    • lost_grrl

      You don’t know that. Maybe Tom didn’t want kids. Or maybe by the time she got settled and could actually support a child her son preferred life with his dad.
      This whole abandonment thing is interesting. If a divorced man with a child moves to another state and leaves the child with their mother nobody calls that abandonment so why is it called that when the genders are reversed?

  • robbierob

    And this ho bag spent the whole season judging LVP? Lisa raised her children.

  • hexe

    Wait a minute–because she chose to leave her son with his father, she ‘abandoned him’? No. Do we know what amount of contact she had with her son, who was living with his father, after she moved to LA? What does her son have to say on the matter? Not every woman is cut out to be a mother–perhaps she recognized herself as one of those, and felt the boy’s father would be the better parent if there was going to be only one primary caregiver?

    • truth boom

      You’re kidding me???!!!!!!???? That is the definition of abandonment. Don’t have sex and get pregnant and then neglect your offspring if you take the responsibility to have sex and have the child then step up to the plate to raise that child. SMH

      • Marlene Sheehan

        I was in two minds about this, but thinking about it she probably did her son a favour by leaving him with his Dad. She just didn’t have time for a family, she wanted Money and Fame and she got hat she wanted. It’s not something I’d do because the unconditional love between a parent and a child is priceless.

        • Jeff

          Being a parent just was not convenient for her. Did she have a father in her life? It seems like the old man is like a father to her.

          • Marlene Sheehan

            No her Mum was a single Mum and from what I’ve heard her say she spent a lot of time with her Grandparents. So her present husband
            probably fulfills all the male roles to her.

      • Kay

        I totally agree, if someone isn’t cut out to be a mom then they shouldn’t be one but in her case, she was moving somewhere she didn’t know and where she was going to be waitressing and working odd shifts so she probably left her son with his dad so he would have stability and not be uprooted. We don’t know how often she saw him and spoke to him so I don’t think we can judge her for wanting better for her life, because she clearly found better and look at her now.

        • susan5042

          She still didn’t have him when he was 7 and she got married. She didn’t have him at 14 when she started her “music” career. Give me a break.

          • Queenmarie

            I would bet if a housewife this person didn’t like had done the same thing she probably wouldn’t be defending them so staunchly.

          • susan5042

            Sorry, you’re wrong. Don’t assume when you don’t know me!

          • Glimmer88

            I wasn’t talking about you !!!!

    • Kay

      I agree with the first part about the fact that we don’t know what contact she had with her son. Maybe she wanted him to stay where he was familiar and around family instead of uprooting him and taking him to LA where she was waitressing and not living a very stable life, in which case that sounds like a good decision she made. I don’t agree though that some women are not cut out to moms and that that’s okay. Such women shouldn’t have kids and I definitely don’t think she’s one of those.

      • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

        Agree!..not cut out to be a mom? then don’t have children! what do you think people’s first reaction is when they see the younger blondes with the ancient husbands with fat wallets? jealousy has not a thing to do with it..I wouldn’t sleep with an old man no matter what he offered, my husband is my age and good looking! I didnt marry him for money I married him because I was in love! After watching Erika make a complete fool of herself on tv last night it is crystal clear that she is a spoiled brat that thinks the world revolves around her. She looked insane..especially with the fake tears! All the women were rolling eyes and glancing at eachother wide eyed wondering what the hell kind of act she was putting on! She should put away the glitter and act her age, she comes across as a total joke in my opinion.

        • lost_grrl

          Well it’s a good thing you aren’t married to him then. Nobody knows what someone else’s marriage is like. Whatever their relationship is, it’s clearly working for them. The idea of a marriage based only on love is a very, very new one. As long as both parties are aware of the reasons for the marriage why does it matter? Let’s say she is a gold digger (I personally don’t think that’s the case but you do)…as long as Tom knows that one of the qualities that attracted her to him was her ability to provide a luxurious life then why does it matter? Why are some attributes okay to attract people but not others. Tom almost certainly was attracted to her looks, her body initially. Why is that better than being attracted by the stability and freedom a person can provide?

          TL;DR It’s not your marriage and it’s not your business.

          • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

            why so defensive? are you a fellow gold digger? it’s not your business either you nasty witch, you dont know a thing so shut your smart ass mouth. i was not even talking to you and you respond to me with all your bullshit? sorry i struck a nerve sweetpea..not my fault you have to get on your knees to pay the rent, i wouldnt know how that feels so i wont blame you for being so angry and defensive..but do me a favor hun..next time you get so worried about a strangers marriage and lifestyle..tell someone who gives a crap..not me! wow! your one angry man or woman or whatever you are..

          • lost_grrl

            My statement was simply that nobody outside of a marriage can know what the marriage is about and to remind that marriage for love is historically new. There was nothing “nasty” or defensive about my post. You were the one who started name calling and making extremely personal attacks out of absolutely nowhere. You call me angry? I dare say that an outside observer reading our two comments would come away with a VERY different opinion about who was angry, defensive and who was so invested in another couple’s marriage that it drove them to an angry and defensive response.

          • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

            by the way..perfect name for you cuz you sure as hell are losssstttt girl!

    • buttonhead

      As someone who was THAT kid at age 7 (i.e., mother takes off, leaves kid to be raised by father) I have to point out here that yes, I did feel abandoned by her. Even though I was with my father, a decent parent who didn’t even date until after I was in my teens. She called occasionally. We visited during the summer sometimes, so technically I wasn’t abandoned, but that’s not what it felt like to me. And truth is, even though we had a cordial relationship in my adult years, I never really forgave her. I wonder about Erika’s son.

      • hexe

        Since you’ve been there, you’re certainly in a better position to speak as to the son’s possible viewpoint on this. Personally, I took umbrage at the allegation of ‘abandonment’ simply because one rarely, if ever, sees the word used in reference to men who do the same thing to their children…it’s just viewed as a given that the child will stay with the mother.

      • Georgia Houts

        So, do you think when the man moves away from the home that it is the same?

        • buttonhead

          Yes, no difference at all.

  • Kay

    Whoever wrote this sounds jealous and bitter as hell. Who the hell says “grand husband”? When they met, he was obviously younger and looked better than he does now. They’ve both aged.

    • malina28202

      Kay, he is 30 years older, have you ever kissed anyone 30 years older than you.. once you do, you will know what i mean, unless there is some kind of financial reward, there is no way anyone will do it, look at him: old, short, loaded.

  • Venus in Furs

    I love the snark in this article. hahahaha. Grandhusband!

  • Shelty

    I don’t know anyone that has heard her music. She needs to stop with the botox, it’s not pretty.

    I’m so glad her son was raised by a good man. Well done!

    • Abby Lynn Reese

      Please shut the fuck up

    • Stacey

      It’s astoundingly pretty, actually.

    • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

      her music is a joke, it’s awful! it would sound terrible out of the mouth of an 18yr old…but at her age..wow!

    • lost_grrl

      That’s because she makes dance music. Unless you have a ton of friends that patronize a very specific type of dance club, you wouldn’t have heard of her. But she has had multiple number one singles on the dance charts.

  • Imneverwrongimo

    Poor Ericka….having to give up her son–because it’s not like she had the access to legal council, or money, or the resources to pursue custody after she married Tom. Oh wait

    • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

      best comment i have heard yet! so very true!

      • Georgia Houts

        You need to read more.

        • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

          as do you! do not not worry about what I read sweetie..worry about the gold diggers you are protecting HA HA

        • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

          I am so worried about what you {a stranger} thinks..not sure if i will sleep tonight LOL

  • Ladyfromthe80swithNewWaveHaird

    these comments are more than ageist and sexist. The reality is she lived her life to the fullest. She is happy. quit trying to make something out of nothing.

  • KK_Close

    So, she was a waitress? Hmmm … a stripper-waitress? Or a stripper-waitress-pro? I’m pretty sure they have re-written history to make it appear she is more respectable than the truth. At the very least, “stripper” is on her early résumé.

    • Catherine Anderson

      If this were the case, I highly doubt this queen would deny it. Stripper would boost her Erika Jayne resume. Is it really that hard to believe she was just a waitress? Silly.

  • karen

    She was not a gold digger. She was an attractive young woman who captured the attention and heart of an older man with money. So what. Jealous? That has been happening since the beginning of time!!!! Go to Hollywood, go to New York or down to England. She won’t be the first woman to marry an older man with money nor the last. From what I have seen and read Erika is very loyal to Tom and never strays. She works hard and enjoys her life. He supports her dreams……that is not a gold digger that is a solid marriage.

    • karen

      to little miss Beachspin………you don’t know Erika’s situation as a young woman. You are slandering and judging her with your “fake news”. When you have walked in her shoes then you can judge her.

      • malina28202

        i can’t afford to walk in her shoes, her shoes cost $700.00 no wait $850.00

    • JS

      She left her CHILD to pursue an older man with money. Thats the definition of golddigger and selfishness.

      • lost_grrl

        Actually there is nothing in this article that would imply that she left her son to pursue an older man with money. Tom wasn’t in the picture when she left. Ascribe whatever motives you want to her but at least get the facts right.

        • JS

          The fact is that she didn’t send for her son once she was settled. We all know that.

          • lost_grrl

            And? What is the word you always hear you always hear regarding young women who choose to give their baby up for adoption if they aren’t ready to have a kid? Courageous. Erika left her child with his father. That happens every single day with the genders reversed and nobody raises an eyebrow.
            We have zero clue what their relationship was, how often she saw him, etc. Or how they have rectified their relationship since then. It is between her and her son.

          • JS

            Hold up. We aren’t going to compare giving your kid up for adoption (because you want a better life for them) to Erika divorcing her husband and leaving her kid with him to move across the country and try to be famous. Sure it happens everyday in the reversal and we call them dead beat dads.

            Her kid wasn’t even at the wedding of her and Tom. Whether or not they rectified or made peace doesn’t change the fact Erika abandoned her kid.

          • lost_grrl

            There was not in fact a wedding, but a private marriage ceremony. And the term deadbeat dad has a specific meaning to do with not paying child support.
            But regardless, none of this is your business or your place to judge.

          • JS

            Private marriage ceremony doesn’t mean she couldn’t have had her family there, stop making excuses. Also, no deadbeat dad can also mean any dad who isn’t apart of their kids life because plenty dads who send/provide money but not any emotional support or guidance. We dont know how much Erika did or didn’t send (although I cant imagine any before she got with money bags). Regardless, they came on reality TV and put their lives out there so yeah, it’s EVERYONE’S business. If you dont think its your business dont watch the show.

          • lost_grrl

            Sometimes it does, actually. There are many people who have good relationships with their family but still go off and get married at city hall, using the staff as witnesses for all sorts of reasons.

          • JS

            Well believe what you want to I guess lol

          • malina28202

            Lost_grrl: stop defending her you are loosing in this argument, yes she abandoned her child and she is not a good person after that. What makes it worse is her making such a big deal about him being a police officer and risking his life (episode of House Wives), while she is not really his mother, mother is the one who is there for you and not someone who trades a little child for an old bag with money. She is not a good performer either as she has no talent. No education just a waitress/gold digger, but successful one.

          • lost_grrl

            Regardless of what you think of the parenting choices she made in the past, he lives with her now so she does worry about whether or not he comes home every night.

          • malina28202

            sure he lives with her: he lives in NY and she is in Beverly Hills. i doubt that he wants to have anything with her, i would not.

          • lost_grrl

            Actually he’s an LAPD cop (something that was mentioned in the article) and he absolutely lives with her. You don’t know the circumstances of what actually happened yet you say that you doubt he wants anything to do with her. Whatever happened in their past (and we know almost nothing about what happened in the past) he has gotten over it (if he indeed felt there was something to get over) and now lives with her.

          • Georgia Houts

            He does live with her now. He doesn’t live in New York. Get your facts straight.

          • Lynne

            It says he moved to La in 2014. Very sad, his whole life, where was mommy??? It reflects in her character, no motherly instincts, cold & selfish, this is who she represents!!

          • Georgia Houts

            You’re ridiculous. She loves her son. She is a good performer. She has beven married for over 2 decades which is longer than most marriages.

          • malina28202

            yes, and who are you ? her lover that you know that she loves her son ? just get lost and find something else to do with your free time, idiot.

          • Georgia Houts

            No Malina dear, I am someone that is able to read and comprehend a sentence. He is a LAPD officer. LA is in California. New York is very far from California. He has said he lives with his mother. She has stated that he lives with her. While I am finding something better to do with my free time, why dont you practice up on your comprehension skills. Just a suggestion.

          • Georgia Houts

            Abandonment means having no contact with your child. And dead beat dad’s are dad’s who don’t pay child support. Get your.definitions right.

          • JS

            My definitions are fine idk why you want to make excuses for her LOL

          • Georgia Houts

            Maybe her son was in a good place. Kids aren’t puppies. Her son lives with her now. They must have had some relationship while he was growing up. Judge quickly much?

          • JS

            Kids arent puppies but I don’t know one kid nor mother who would rather live apart unless the mother wasn’t actually being a mother. Now, but not when it mattered. I call it like I see it

    • Bonnie Lee

      Yea right

    • WEST SIDE OF TOWN

      of course she doesn’t stray! grandhusband leaves…he takes his wallet with him! please!

      • KimK

        Where’s he going to take his wallet? Nursing homes don’t allow patients to have valuables.

    • Terri Vilardi

      Look at our first lady. Its the American way.

    • Sliceo’pie

      Apparently HE caught HER attention. SHE was the one who slipped him her number. She pursued him and not the other way around. Did you read the article with a direct quote from Erika?

  • Carrie

    These women when they join any of these shows must know that everything they have ever done will be scrutinised. Erika said she has a great relationship with her son, perhaps it was for the best at the time.

  • Varda Temkin

    She is a gold digger with no style. Why would a woman her age wear a short dress with no underware and sit in front of a married man with open legs?

  • Bonnie Lee

    The only way I’d leave my child is ….
    I’m dead and gone !!!!

  • Violet Miller

    Serious trash. Son is definitely better without her. I hope she is the first to leave DWTS.

  • caskett ology

    REALLY? So, Erika Jayne is a gold digger who abandoned her son based on a timeline with no tangible context that was written by a blogger? Basically, according to the timeline and this blogger Erika never saw her son again when she moved to LA and married a wealthy man. Yea, that’s factual. I see why so many hopped on the “loser mom gold digger” bandwagon.

    • DEXTER

      Come on, She is afraid of her old man husband. Definite goldigger.

    • Sliceo’pie

      I don’t doubt that she had her son for visits and visited NYC as well but she left a little boy with his dad to pursue HER dreams. One makes that decision before having a child, not after.

  • GreenEyes

    That’s how it’s done, girls? You’re saying it like it’s something to be proud of.

  • DEXTER

    She sold her happiness to Old Man Giraldi, and now lives a sad life with paid enochs surrounding her as her only friend. She is a no class tramp gold digger. So she gets paid maybe $5000 or $10,000 to appear at a show, for which she spends $10,000 in hair and makeup, maybe $10,000 to $15,000 in travel. Her “career” is not a money maker.

    • Taylor London

      It called being a full time sugar baby lol. Professional sugar baby – bankrolled by (daddy) aka husband

  • Christy Worlds

    The people who wrote this dog grap article probably don’t even have kids! So to all you haters who are just jealous of this beautiful women…So because she went off to make a better life for her son she’s a gold digger? So what was she suppose to do stay in a Po Dump town and not live out her talent potential and live on welfare? So when parents tell their daughters to marry a doctor or lawyer are the daughters all gold diggers?

    • divineyaya

      sorry but what about her son’s dreams of having a mother in his day to day life?

    • Sliceo’pie

      Did you bother to read the article?? What are you even talking about? It’s bizarre.
      NYC, where she lived and left her son, is hardly, “Po Dump” town. Where did it say she was on welfare? ( On her family visit-it was clearly her family was middle class and certainly not on welfare) You’ve made lot of assumptions and given her a ton of passes.
      There is also a middle ground-clearly that is not what she was aiming for when looking for a second husband. She went after the oldest and wealthiest.

  • justsaying

    Erika should take a good look in the mirror. The reflection is an aged-out close to 50 year old burlesque dancer who with all her many resources, seems to care only about being on stage regardless that the audience is laughing hysterically at her and not in a good way! $40k a month on stylists and clothing but her wardrobe mimics the clearance rack of Fredericks and she wears more makeup than Tammy Faye going to town after scoring at the Blue Light special Maybelline rack at Kmart. Sorry but Integrity and dignity are far more important than 15 minutes of Bravo infamy.

  • Vavoline Marie Johnson

    Jeez, she was so pretty at one time…now she looks like an aging street walker…..ugh Karma is a bitch

    • Taylor London

      lol

  • barbara grace

    What puzzles me about Ms Jayne/Girardi is her sour cold demeanor…she left her son to go to LA and be famous, apparently by any means necessary, including appearing on a reality show she seems to resent. You got your wish and now you’re subject to all that comes with it.

  • Taylor London

    No wonder you cried like a baby when someone mentioned your son. You still hold the guilt of what you did. You were desperate for only fame and glamour. Now you got it, but you will never be able to forgive yourself for what you did, which was abandon your own child. You are despicable and married someone even more deplorable – a lawyer…… sum it up in one go.