RECAP: Ladies of London – Thanksgiving is Over, But the Drama Is Still Hot [Episode 2]

Posted on Sep 15 2015 - 8:09am by Dani-K

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On this week’s episode of Ladies of London, Thanksgiving-gate is but a distant memory. Caroline S stops by Marissa’s for an electrocution quickie. Her hands are suffering from Twitteridous. Marissa places the electrical patches on each of them while they rest on her bed. Marissa then informs Caroline that she’s not inviting Juliet to her Royal Albert Hall annual family Christmas charity sing-along event. Caroline is convinced this will soon become her problem and tells Marissa to reconsider.

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Annabelle, Marissa and Lady Julie attend an art show by Emilio, one of Annabelle’s friends. Five minutes in, Marissa leaves because she has to “jet off” to dinner. Whatever. It’s okay. Lady Julie is thrilled to have Annabelle all to herself and considers AB the closest thing to “Dummies Guide to Aristocracy.”

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Caroline S and Caroline F (who will now be playing the role of Carol) are shopping for red dresses, guzzling sipping champagne, pinkies in the air. Carol is hosting a Scandinavian Christmas dinner party. Side note: the LoL’s have had two parties where all the women wear the same color. And they call Americans, Stepford. Nevertheless, Carol says she’s so much more than a model with a title, she’s someone who was able to use her family’s money and connections and do things her way. Bravo, brave soul!

Juliet arrives at Lady Julie’s for the dinner party. They are each other’s dates since both of their husbands work out of town during the week. While Juliet gets her lashes on, Lady Julie tries on an Alexander McQueen red dress that Annabelle lent her. Unfortunately, the red dress wears Lady Julie instead of the other way around. But Lady Julie loves it and that’s all that matters, bless her heart.

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Guess who just flew in from Paris at four o’clock on the day of her Scandinavian Christmas dinner party. The self-proclaimed Martha Stewart, that’s who. Carol is in the kitchen, whipping up goose and feeding the dogs. All by herself. No help. Which I commend her for, but hey, if you’re going to throw a dinner party, step it up a bit, mate. The guests have arrived and are offering to help because they are starving by now, but Carol turns down their help, saying she’s got it under control, but of course, doesn’t and doesn’t care. Tra-la-la-la she goes on her merry way.

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Finally it’s time to eat and everyone goes to the dining room. For some reason a two-tiered glass shelf is in the middle of the dining table with trinkets on the shelves. Is that a thing? I don’t recall seeing that on HGTV, but what do I know. This is when Juliet learns that goose in on the menu. Last season there was a big kerfuffle over Juliet not eating venison, better known as Bambi. Will Juliet eat Mother Goose? The suspense is killing me. Yes, and she loves it! Goose with a side of kiss Carol’s ass.

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During dinner, we learned a Lesson in English Etiquette, with Carol. Did you know that if the animal you are eating for dinner flies, you can eat it with your hands. Thank goodness pigs can fly. We wouldn’t want to break etiquette over here. And then, the most horrific thing occurs: Carol laughs. My ears! It’s part horse guffaw and part goose chuckle.

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Conversation drifts to the Albert Hall event that Marissa is having. How smashing it will be. Who’s going (everyone), who’s not going (Juliet). A flashback is shown from three days prior of a heavily bronzed Caroline telling Juliet she’s off the list, per Marissa. Marissa doesn’t want the drama. (Said the passive/aggressive girl.) Just a happy holiday event with everyone’s families. Say what you want about Juliet, her adorable kids should have been included.

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Next, Carol forces Caroline to participate in immersion therapy and conquer her fear of fruit. This is to help her PTSD she suffers from being forced to eat fruit in boarding school. I looked that up in the New England Journal of Medicine, but couldn’t find it. I did, however, find fear of vegetables, which totally makes sense. Carol abruptly tells her guests they have to get out in ten minutes.

Over at the Royal Albert Hall, which is 150 years old and mentioned in a Beatles song. Marissa is setting up for the party. Everyone who’s anyone will be there. Except Juliet. Caroline says she needs champagne to get her through the afternoon. Lady Julie is excited because soon she will have a box of her very own at the RAH. And Annabelle explains that Marissa suffers from upper-middle-class aspirations, or,  UMCA. Later, the ladies have a moment of pity for Juliet who wasn’t born or married into British high society.

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It’s a dark and rainy night, Juliet meets her husband, Gregor, for dinner. (I just can’t do Gregor-sorry). It’s just the two of them, Juliet and Greg, having a romantic dinner when their kid calls asking if he can sleep with them. Juliet is still wounded by Marissa’s rejection. Greg recommends that his wife sit down with Marissa and cut out the drama with a hug.

Caroline is at her office and business doesn’t seem to be going well. They have been missing shipping deadlines, she is running out of funding, the watches aren’t ready, and the crocodile bags are going to cost $200K. Several people will be fired, so bah humbug to Caroline McScrooge. She hates Christmas. Maybe that’s why this is happening. Has someone lost their Christmas magic? Click your heels three times. That might help.

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In a café, Juliet has followed Greg’s advice and asked Marissa to meet for tea. Juliet asks if their broken friendship is repairable. When Juliet mentions not being invited to the Albert Hall, Marissa doesn’t want to discuss it. But Juliet does. It’s the whole reason they are sitting there drinking Earl Grey. Marissa explains every time she tries to do something nice for Juliet, it backfires. Juliet apologizes and blames Caroline S for insisting that she allow her to throw a Thanksgiving/birthday party for her. Marissa says she no longer finds their friendship fulfilling. Juliet says they’ve been holding onto something that’s gone. They demote their bff status to, f.  Sounds like they’ve lost that lovin’ feeling and it’s gone, gone, gone.

Tune in next week when it’s New Years Eve with plenty of cheers and plenty of tears.

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  • Kat ACMilanista

    Juliet skipping Marissa’s Thanksgiving/birthday party was it. It’s always what Juliet wants and I don’t blame Marissa for washing her hands of her.
    And the new Carol is sooooo annoying.

    • MidwestMiddie

      No doubt, “Carol’s” behavior has angered Danes.
      I agree about Juliet.

      • Kat ACMilanista

        Angered them how? I wasn’t paying very close attention to her since she seemed so “pay attention to me” in a quiet, manipulative way. Didn’t she fly in a chef for the dinner? And then he disappeared while she put her “Martha Stewart” finishing touches on everything so we thought she made it from scratch?

        • MidwestMiddie

          Members of the “Royal” family are not suppose to look silly and unbecoming, especially in public. Carol is her own person. She flaunts her title, heritage and wealth and often not in any dignified way. Scandinavians are modern thinking people who truly love their Royals but expect traditions to be upheld and decorum from them.

        • Dani-K

          That’s my bet. She did have help, we (the cameras) just didn’t see them. I mean, she got there at 4:00. Come on. Be real.

  • Livie1

    Dani-K, awesome and detailed recap!! TY 🙂

    Unfortunately LoL airs here at 10PM and minutes after it started…zzzzzz…the next thing I knew I heard screeches and cackling and here’s Andy’s stupid show with the blondes – ugh! I thought I was having a nightmare and apparently I was in some manner: a waking nightmare! So LoL was completely missed by me. I’ll have to watch the video Twi & Chats post to see the episode and then get back to you all!

    On a side note, I can’t believe that bone Carol is chawing on in above photo is from a goose! I guess they’re a lot bigger and more sturdy than I realized!!!

    • MidwestMiddie

      Oh Livie, I nodded off during RHOC but had it on my DVR to watch later on. This late night TV viewing is difficult for sure. We need an electro shock wrist band on a timer set for Bravo’s late shows. I skipped over WWHL. Having a contest where every person can vote as many times as they like, isn’t a contest. Bravo must be worried
      that if it was set for One Vote Per Person, fewer than 100 viewers would vote. lol
      Carol’s goose looked amazing. Every bowl she served had me wishing I was
      there to get one.

      • Livie1

        Good morning Midwest!

        LOL, yes an electro shock wrist band was definitely what I needed last night to keep me bright eyed and bushy tailed so I could have viewed the episode!!

        Ugh, I couldn’t even get the TV turned off quickly enough when I heard Ramona and Tamera and that idiot Andy all screeching and fawning over one another. Not on my dime!! I remember that stupid “contest” now that you mention it!! I still think AATT should have their own here. Enjoy your day MM 🙂

        • MidwestMiddie

          Like your idea for AATT to have a Contest here. One Vote Per Person.
          : )

    • Dani-K

      You crack me up, Livie! Thanks for reading!

    • Sophia Z.

      lmao

    • Lila

      Haha! Yea, and boy was she chewing the heck out of that sucker! Made me hungry! Lol

  • MidwestMiddie

    Fun Read, Dani-K. Thanks.

    Like Kat, below, I think LOL would be a better show if Juliet wasn’t there. She truly
    doesn’t fit in at all. Juliet is an ill-mannered liar and user.
    A well-read teenager would know to expect duck or goose on a Danish holiday
    dinner table. Know it, ask or look it up in advance. Same with last year – it was unbelievable
    that Juliet was horrified and surprised at venison being served for dinner.
    Juliet brings the Ugly American to life.

    Make the show All Brits…..imo, it will be so much more interesting.

    • ohjeez

      ITA!!

    • Dani-K

      Thanks Middie! Juliet was very much a pain last year. I’m wondering if we will see a transformation this year. And Caroline is now wise to Juliet’s ass-kissing way. So with Marissa dumping her, maybe she will be served a big ole piece of pumpkin pie.

      • MidwestMiddie

        Ah but remember Dani-K, Juliet doesn’t know how to bake a pumpkin pie.
        NO pie for her!!!!
        LOL

    • Lila

      Agree . And also about the show being all Brits. There wouldn’t be so many snide remarks towards ‘The Americans’. Because , seriously, it’s Not All in fun. I’ld be curious to see how the different ‘classes’ mingle. Hmm. 😀

    • Jennymckitty

      Glad to know I’m not the only one who finds Juliet a whiny, rude, social climbing a$$kisser. I think that what annoys me the most, is the lack of effort she puts into learning how to be a good guest. Carolyn can get away with acting outrageous but in Great British, an American without a pedigree married someone without a pedigree needs to behave more mannerly to get to where she wants to be.

      • MidwestMiddie

        “…..the lack of effort she puts into learning how to be a good guest.”
        I think Juliet was probably a rude guest at Kiddies Birthday parties.
        She probably demanded vanilla ice cream when chocolate was served.
        Refused to eat Birthday cakes if her favorite filling and icing didn’t adorn
        her pals special desserts. She the kind of rude/user human who will
        never change because she is perfectly happy with herself. : /

        • Livie1

          LOL Midwest, I take it you don’t care for the whiner known as Juliet!! I don’t dislike her more or less than the other whiner Marissa, but I agree 100% on the way she’s acted when served food she didn’t like or want to like. That kind of behavior, dissing the food will get you knocked off the dinner guest list faster than you can say Spotted Dick Please!!

          • MidwestMiddie

            LOL – “Spotted Dick” – two words on a pub’s menu guaranteed to
            bring laughter from newbies visiting England.

      • Livie1

        I have no title and I have manners. I’d have loved however to have attended the etiquette luncheon!! Agree about being a good dinner guest – that just respect for your host/hostess and yourself!!!

    • Kat ACMilanista

      Juliet’s problem is that she expects the other women to feel sorry for her and allow her into the high society club without having to put in the same amount of (tremendous) effort that they did by learning very specific etiquette and respecting why it’s so important to them. You don’t earn a place among the elite by crying here I am the goofy American who chose to move away from my family to a place that I don’t understand and refuse to try so please take pity on me!
      Elite are elite because of hard work! And that includes figuring out how to be not a nuisance but an entertaining party guest.

      • MidwestMiddie

        Spot On.
        : )

  • Lila

    Good laugh Dani_K ,thanks!

    • Dani-K

      Thanks Lila! Hey, did you see that Conan used my joke last night about Arnold’s new tag line. Of course, Conan probably came up with it too, but great minds, right? He also had a line in there that Arnold will be the Terminator.

      • Lila

        Cool! Have to watch!

  • Sophia Z.

    I loved last night’s show with the exception that it seemed piecemilled together. I was not impressed with the timeline or the editing. I would have loved to see how the Thanksgiving dinners went over because they had set it all up in the previous episode. Beyond that, I loved all of the ladies and what they were up to.
    Carol the Danish Royal… LOVE her! I loved her singing, forgetting to tie her dress, the bare feet and even the laugh. I think I am going to like her this season.

    Carolyn Stanbury rocks my world. I had to rewatch last season to help myself remember that she really is a great time and I think the show centers around her because she is such a dynamic person.
    Whether Juliette fits in with the crowd or not, I felt sorry for her last night in her interaction with Marissa. I think Marissa showed her true colors and they aren’t pretty. She’s a nasty little social climber and Juliette doesn’t have anything Marissa needs. I know Juliette was a off keel when she wanted Thanksgiving at a home but they Marissa was in the restaurant at the end of the show was just wrong.

    • Dani-K

      Sophie – I was surprised that they didn’t show real footage of the dueling Thanksgiving dinners. That storyline completely fell flat. And you’re right, it was choppy editing. Next week looks great, though!

      • Sophia Z.

        Wouldn’t you have loved to have seen Thanksgiving?

      • Livie1

        Dani-K, one thing is bothering me about the Thanksgiving thing. Maybe you can clear it up.

        Is the scene in the grocery store the first time this Thanksgiving bash is discussed by the group? I guess what I’m struggling with is did Marissa just assume she would host the larger dinner and that included the LOL cast or was her hosting this dinner agreed upon by all earlier?

        I guess “assumed” and “agreed upon earlier” are the key issues for me in sorting out this Thanksgiving mess. Personally I don’t think either woman, Marissa or Juliet acted graciously. Either or both could go MIA on the show and I would care less. But I like to get my stories straight and this one just is not making sense! Thanks!!

        • Dani-K

          Okay Livie – I watched the grocery scene again and it does look like it’s the first time they are discussing the Thanksgiving event as a group. I believe that Juliet knew that Marissa was hosting the dinner, but surprised that it would be at Bumpkin and not at Marissa’s home. Marissa assumed she would host the dinner because she’s done so for the prior 6 years. The other ladies in the scene looked bored out of their minds. It’s just a nothing special Thursday night for them. The thing I like about Juliet is she is authentic, a mess, but an authentic mess. Marissa is a bit Stepford. Has this helped?

          • Livie1

            Dani-K: “has this helped?” Immensely!!!! Thank you!

            Now that I get your take on it, that was what I remembered also but as a new viewer, I thought “Maybe I missed something?” regarding the plans for the dinner. Basically there was a whole lot of assuming going on by both parties. Don’t you just love it when mind-reading abilities are demanded by both so-called “friends” ???

            I’m not willing to hand out a pass to either of the warring women. Both
            share equally in the unnecessary drama that was created (uninteresting
            drama btw!) To me, Marissa’s a snob and that is never of interest to me. Those types are a dime a dozen. That’s in American currency – don’t know the British Sterling equivalent 😉

            Yeah, I think Juliet’s a hot mess in more than just her gosh-awful hair and clothes (wtf was with that cable knit fugly sweater at the end of the show this week??? I’m still horrified and I wasn’t the one wearing it.) Personally I don’t find her terribly bright either but maybe she’s smart as a whip, who knows? I do think that she’s smart enough to start realizing not everyone is buying into her “oh it’s just kooky American me!!” shtick.

            Again, thanks so much Dani-K!!!

    • Livie1

      Sophia, I see Chats has posted last night’s episode (that I slept through!! Ack!!) So I’ll watch this afternoon and then will be ready to report back :p

      I’m excited to read you are still liking Caroline S with this episode because I sure liked her in the previous season I crammed into watching last week. OK run-on sentence but hopefully you know what I mean – lol.

      • Sophia Z.

        I get you completely, Livie. I’m not a strong writer so run on sentences are something I don’t notice. We are the Caroline fan club!

        I’m dying to know what you thought about Carol????!!!!! You didn’t say anything about her laugh or the fun she is.

        • Livie1

          Sophia, I thought Carol’s laugh was funny and even funnier was Caroline’s comment about making the mistake of taking her to a comedy club – hahahahahaha!!!!!

          Honestly I didn’t get to see enough of her to form a real opinion, I mean Carol. She certainly was a breath of fresh air in many ways. And she has cute little doxies so I have to love her for that. And I liked how she and Caroline joked around while they were shopping for the red dresses – that’s how I interact with gf’s when we shop together!! So that felt fun and real. Not forced.

          • Sophia Z.

            I like your thoughts and they are very much like my thoughts on Carol. I’m quick to accept people before I judge their behavior though and maybe I love Carol a little too much at this moment to understand that she may end up being a raging biotch in the future. I truly hope not.

          • Livie1

            You’re right, you never know who will turn out to be a royal PITA on these shows. The reason I also remain hopeful Carol stays funny and odd is that she and Caroline have the 20 year friendship. I’m hoping that’s some sort of insurance she won’t go to the dark side on this show.

          • Sophia Z.

            I’m hoping that no one goes to the dark side of the show. I hope it kind of stays the same in that there is no darkness beyond Juliet’s quirks. Even her quirks don’t bother me that much. I am afraid that Marissa is going to end up being the one who is the darker side of this show. I know people think that she is “in” with the crowd but I don’t think she really is. Her husband owns a nightclub that is popular right now. Who says it will always be popular? Most clubs don’t stay popular year after year. She’s not that in with the elite and just probably a degree over Juliet. She is a Stepford wife and I just don’t trust her, this sugary sweet game she is playing is quite obvious to me. Your thoughts on Marissa?

          • Livie1

            I wish I could put a finger on what exactly bothers me so much about Marissa…she does think highly of herself that’s apparent. It’s not who you know all the time, but always who you are.

            Agree a million times, I hope the show keeps away from anything other than the occasional tiff.

            Now I’m dying to skeet shoot – I do envy the people on the estates with gameskeepers to have all that ready to go so all I’d have to do is stroll out to the field, go “pull” and fire!

          • Sophia Z.

            What bothers me about Marissa is that she’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I think she is a lot uglier on the inside beyond that syrupy personality she is presenting.

            Skeet shooting is kind of fun. There is a lot of standing around involved though so take some friends and have good conversation.

            I hope this is a good day for you and yours. I know it is a day by day thing and a good day is like heaven. I always keep a little diary to remember the good days. It’s nice to look back on.

    • Livie1

      Sophia, you pretty much said what I felt too when I watched the show this afternoon. Juliet is certainly no prize but Marissa went out of her way to be the lesser person. Too stupid to know that sometimes being the bigger person IS the best revenge. I really don’t like her AT ALL.

      I’m so with you on Caroline S and she’s someone I would be friends with because I love that kind of sense of humor. She’s funny.

      Another thing I like about this show overall is you see the husbands and the kids but not to the extent of the HW franchises where now the men’s “drama” often surpasses the HW’s. The families of LoL are presented more for contextual purposes.

      Agree a Thanksgiving update would have been awesome. Agree too the overall show didn’t flow easily at all from one scene to another.

      • Sophia Z.

        Thank you, Livie. How could you not watch that scene in the restaurant and not feel sorry for Juliet? You’re right, “Juliet is no prize and Marissa went out of her way to be the lesser person”. I really don’t like her either. Marissa was on twitter last night defending herself and saying for us to tune in next week, that she would show us otherwise. In the meantime Bravo tweeted a quote that Marissa said and the quote was “I support you 100%”. I tweeted that the quote didn’t feel genuine at all. Juliet tweeted me back and said “Probably because it is 100% not true”. So apparently the argument continues into the next episode. Hopefully Caroline will be able to help Juliet keep her wits about her.

        Yes, Caroline… I think she just rocks the show. And I would love to be friends with her too. She indeed is funny and I like that there is no drama about her. She’s strong and about having a good time.

        Good point on the men on the show. I agree with that. I really liked Juliet’s husband. I found him to be level headed and kind of a hunk.

        • Livie1

          Oh that’s interesting about the twitter comments Sophia. No I don’t see these 2 as being besties ever again. I just hope the show doesn’t devolve into those 2 sniping back and forth as then I’ll have other plans myself at that point.

          I don’t have high hopes for that as the electroshock therapy at Marissa’s place with Caroline was obviously staged so they could further the conflict….

          Yes, I like getting a glimpse of the men and all the kids seem really cute and no Milanias in the group so far that I can tell. Whew! But I’m not interested in the guys getting overly involved. In my own relationship, neither of us were glued at the hip like some of these HW franchise couples seem to appear.

          • Sophia Z.

            I don’t want to see Juliet and Marissa sniping at each other, either. BUT I don’t think Juliet will let this one go. I might be wrong but the attitude she displayed over that tweet seemed a bit hostile to me.

            I don’t know anything about electroshock therapy. This was all news to me. I’m guessing that it is relative to tens therapy???? It’s of no interest to me to play with electricity. And I agree, that whole scene seemed staged to me – Bravo get out of it.

            I don’t mind the men in the story at the point that they have been. If it starts showing more of the whining and crying to their men that we have seen in the past with the HW shows, I will be like you and quit watching. This past episode was enough with the husbands & family. I’m frankly sick of the HW shows and the wives that are glued to the hip, as you say, with their husbands. This crosses over onto twitter and it’s sickening. I enjoyed getting to know the husbands on LoL but let’s move back to the ladies, please.

          • Livie1

            Sophia I said electroshock as a funny, I don’t remember what Marissa actually called it. But I thought “TENS” too. Definitely staged. I seriously doubt Caroline spends much time in Marissa’s bedroom under any pretense, other than at Bravo’s insistence.

            Yep I agree, the level of the husbands and kids at this point is fine with me too. What I don’t want to see is any of the husbands getting involved in the fights. That is so lame to me and a huge turn off. Go find your b*lls boys! Ugh!

            I don’t do twitter so you’ll have to keep us updated from time to time, or me updated I guess I should say! Thanks for the tea of the twitter thing last night!

          • Livie1

            Do you know if Juliet’s husband is from Canada? I picked up a *slight* and I mean real slight inflection in his voice at the restaurant (dining outside next to heater) that made me wonder. He does seem nice, even tempered, which is of course a must for a hot-headed spouse – lol.

          • Sophia Z.

            Ha! He does need his head about him with Juliet, doesn’t he? Though I noticed a different Juliet when she was having dinner with him. I wonder if she doesn’t have a little bit of a social disorder.
            No, I don’t know if he is from Canada. I sure wish I had his job though. I’m sure we will find out as the season unfolds though.

          • Livie1

            Juliet reminds me of Kristen from Vanderpump Rules in that she seems incapable of getting a clue. The Thanksgiving thing to me was stupid on both sides. Done, bye. So let it go and move on. Requiring Marissa’s “love” at this point in time is idiotic. So someone doesn’t like you now? Oh boohoo, grow up and prove them wrong by being a better person. Easy Peasy in my book!

            I think Juliet is needy and that’s her social disorder. Of course I think Marissa’s also needy so no wonder those 2 are butting heads for the Poor Me/Love Me title!!

          • Sophia Z.

            Interesting perspective. I have to think on that. I think though that Juliet has a lot more of a clue than Kristen. She just gets all ruffled around a lot of people. Notice when she is one on one she’s not as bad. I think you are right in both of them being needy. It’s like a competition for the American’s to get more British friends.

          • Livie1

            Well they cast these people with a certain “type” in mind that’s for certain. I know many nice people that are Americans living abroad and none of them really act like those 2.

            I guess Kristen’s refusal to move on reminds me somewhat of Juliet. That and their hairdo, which in both cases always looks like they need a good washing up!

          • Sophia Z.

            Ha, ha ha haha! Ok so both of them need to wash their hair.

            I don’t find either Juliet’s or Marissa’s behavior unusual or abnormal in the context if they lived here in the US. I think they just brought their drama all folded up with their clothes to the UK. You’re right about the casting though. They couldn’t have found two bigger goofballs to represent the US when associating with London’s elite.

          • Livie1

            Well I’ll give you that Juliet and Marissa both would fit in perfectly with any of the embarrassing HW train wreck franchises over here. Harridans and that is not a compliment. I’m most happy when neither are on my screen. I don’t see them as particularly “American” just variety of personality that’s universally found everywhere: PITA.

          • Sophia Z.

            You’re right about the personalities. It’s not just a matter of where they are from. Thanks for reminding me of that.

          • Sophia Z.

            I doubt that Caroline spends much time in Marissa’s bedroom, much less her home. Caroline doesn’t strike me as one to lollygag around Marissa that much. She’s much too smart for Marissa and she has her wits about her.
            I was going to post a screen shot of the twitter ordeal last night but posting photos is not available on this blog. Anyway, just as an fyi because we both love Caroline… She is in Dubai right now living the life. She tweeted something about a prince taking her out to the desert for a meal and outting. She’s quite fun to follow. Marissa seems to be the one to tweet the most. Like most who are guilty, she seems to have the most to say. Sorry but that sugar is too transparent to me.

          • Sophia Z.

            There is a new thread on Ladies of London!!!

          • Livie1

            Thanks Sophia! I went there and read Terri’s article. All the writers here are great. It’s funny how the posters are all on different sides – we all see the same show but see that show very differently!!!

            Thanks for the head’s up 🙂 Hope you have a great day there!!

          • Sophia Z.

            I love the writers here, they all have their own style but it all flows easily. I have never understood how ppl see the same show and see something differently. I hope you also have a great day.

    • MidwestMiddie

      Agree – Thanksgiving should have been shown with more than 10 seconds of video.
      Carol’s Christmas Goose won over turkey. That roasted goose did look yummy. Have you ever had it? I love it but no matter how crispy the skin ,,,,,,,,the goose
      bumps are still hard to take. lol

      • Sophia Z.

        I think I just threw up a little when I read that, MM. No, I have never had goose and by reading your description I would have to say that I don’t think I ever want to. I’m not a big fan of duck or anything with a wild taste to it. But I promise I will try it just for you if ever presented with such. Your post gave me goose bumps.

        • MidwestMiddie

          LOL – You’ve been warned and now know where the saying “goose
          bumps” comes from. Yes, try it if you ever get the chance to do so.
          The meat is delicious.

        • Livie1

          Me either Sophia, I’m not a game lover, wild tastes are not my thing. If offered at a dinner I’d pick around but definitely not ask for seconds!! (I’ve had groundhog and squirrel so trust me, I’ve been exposed to all kinds of game too!! lol!!)

          • Sophia Z.

            One of the worst memories as a child I have is that my Father was an Outdoorsman. The elk, deer, quail (which I liked) etc… My poor Mom in the kitchen doing the best she could to make all of this stuff taste somewhat decent for us kids.

          • Livie1

            Same here Sophia. Funny because some people with our experience love game and just as many don’t. It’s not an acquired taste in other words, you like it or you don’t – kind of like fruit at boarding school?? lol.

          • Sophia Z.

            Lol… you’re right about that and the game. It was just so much of it, all the time!
            That scene with the fruit made me very uncomfortable. I was wondering if Caroline was going to bite Carol’s hand. I can’t imagine being put into that position.

          • Livie1

            Sophia, I honestly think those 2 were goofing on each other with that fruit bit. Carol and Caroline. Both know each other for a long time and profess to be best friends. I thought they were pranking each other and nothing more. Carolyn, acting extra horrified, to the delight of Carol.

          • Sophia Z.

            I totally agree. I still squirmed when Caroline spit the fruit out.

          • Livie1

            Haha, now see, I didn’t catch that, that Caroline spit out her force-fed fruit!! That’s why I like discussing these little tidbits here 🙂

          • Sophia Z.

            Yes she did spit it out. I was shocked to see her do it. I know, sometimes I miss little stuff and love to get it here.

    • ohjeez

      Hi Sophia…as is often the case, i agree with much of your post and the baroness may be my fav too but i see the julirat marissa situation differently…marissa is married to a brit vip and co owns some of the big hotspots in town….she doesn’t need to climb and i am sure that plenty of people want to be friends with her and not just the other way around….i think marissa is just O.V.E.R julirats bullshit that started way last season….everyone on the show agrees that marissa was there for julirat when she first got to london but when she became good friends with caroline she didn’t need marissa anymore and turned on her…..not a friend i would want at all….julirat in an underdog of her own making…

      • MidwestMiddie

        You’re right about Bumkin. There are 6 or 7 of them spread out over London and very nice places with lovely private dinning rooms. My bet is Marissa’s Thanksgiving Dinner would have reminded Juilet of the classic American meal served in a beautifully decorated homey & comfortable dinning room. Juilet’s loss for insisting it be at Caroline’s and then lying about Caroline saying it was her idea and she insisted upon having it…….was just too much.

        • ohjeez

          manipulative bRAT

        • ohjeez

          her husband also owns boujis one of the most “elite” nightclubs in the world…

          • MidwestMiddie

            You’re right. I forgot about that. Thanks.
            : )

          • ohjeez

            she def has no need at all to social climb she is hanging with the creme de la creme through her husband….

        • Livie1

          Midwest, while I still remain confused about the Thanksgiving dinner as to who said what, who did what, I also am pretty sure I too heard Juliet toss some blame at Caroline for the other Thanksgiving dinner. Not cool. But ultimately, I blame Bravo editing too – not to support or defend Juliet, don’t get me wrong, but none of this stupid T-day story adds up on either side, imo.

          I wasn’t impressed by Marissa’s 4th of July event, nor whatever that was at Royal Albert Hall so honestly, she’s got to do better or I’d be “busy” for future events – lol.

          • MidwestMiddie

            Good Morning, Livie! I’m not overly impressed with Melissa but, imo. she fits in with the group. The Ugly American, Juliet, doesn’t fit because she is a whiny, lying user, who offers noting. She can’t even muster up enough manners to be a decent dinner guest.
            I know you’re sweeter than I am but I really don’t give a hoot about
            Juliet’s Birthday. I wonder if her hubby gave her a subscription to attend a Miss Manners Class.
            Enough snarking …….LOL

          • Livie1

            Good morning to you also Midwest!! I’m not a fan of either of those 2 butting heads in Turbirthday conflict. Both for me could get lost (but please don’t return to US, thank you very much. I’m happy to let the Brits keep them.) But I agree completely with the food preferences BS that Juliet has come up with. So classless.

      • Sophia Z.

        I’ll agree with that to a certain point, OJ. And I know Marissa’s standing in the social scene but she seems to want to climb further and further up as in royals. I too, was annoyed about Juliet but I just couldn’t help feel for her in the situation. Don’t worry, I haven’t crossed over yet.

  • TartLemon

    What’s up with the lighting making the blond hair look bright YELLOW? Thought it was my tv adjustment, but other scenes were okay. Other that the color thing, one thing I DO like about the LoL hair is the lack of extensions and fake pieces for fullness.

    I feel sorry for Juliette, obviously depressed. She’s in a foreign land with husband Gregor gone most of the time for business. At least there is no language barrier, except for the idioms and mores. Marissa saw a chance to be mean and took it. What a BITCH!

    I don’t particularly care for people who go out of their way to prove how rebellious they are. CarolineF is just RUDE. It’s not shocking, because she acts that way all the time and it gets in the way of others’ good time.

    • Livie1

      Tart I thought the same thing with the canary yellow hues in the blondes…especially Caroline S. I thought she had a wig on at first.

      I’m with you on the less-is-better trend with the women on this show eschewing the fake hair, extensions.

      Agreed with everything else you said too actually!!!

  • JrzShoreLady

    If the two Carolines have known each other for over 20 years, how could Carol not know that Caroline does not eat fruit?

    And another note, why hasn’t anyone mentioned how Juliet said she wanted to take her shoes off once she saw Carol was barefoot, and Carol told her absolutely not it wasn’t allowed. That cracked me up because for a brief moment Juliet started with her annoying whining again but the Baroness quickly put an end to that..lol

    • Livie1

      I think Carol was just being silly/teasing with her friend and the fruit thing. It seems like they share that kind of relationship? Joking around? Of course I could be wrong tho, as I don’t actually know them – lol.

  • Livie1

    Things I liked in this episode:

    CarolineS, I love her droll sense of humor.

    Caroline S, again….loved the dress she wore to the Crazy Dane’s dinner party/Xmas dinner. That off the shoulder neckline was fab. The pattern looked like a bandanna print but hey, she carried it off! Red as required, but with something different.

    I smiled when I saw Cheetos being offered in honor of the Americans – now I would have laughed my butt off and said Why thank you, don’t mind if I do!! I thought that was funny and sweet for Carol/aka Marta Stewart to have done that. It was a joke and a cute one imo.

    Yay that Caroline’s makeup artist attends all these functions as a guest – he could be an a**kisser but apparently he isn’t. I think he’s funny.

    That Sophie, Caroline’s SIL is too cute for words. I just like her 🙂

    Really liked Annabelle showing how it’s done for the camera at the art show – I’m impressed!!!!

    Not so wild about:

    That glass etagere sitting on the glass dining table at Carol’s was odd. Very odd. Maybe it’s a Danish Royalty thing????

    Alexander McQueen gown as worn by Lady Hitch, snore. It moved nicely is all I can come up with on a positive note.

    Marissa. Passive aggressive. Not my thing and I don’t like it much in others either. She could be gone and me, I’d never notice. For me she comes across as needy and I readily admit that’s not unique with this bunch but her neediness takes on a nastiness to me. So thumbs down for her in my book.

    Event at RAH, well the private event was another snore. And what is with Marissa and those stupid holiday themed hats??? Like the turkey hats she brought to Caroline S’s cocktail party? Not cute, not fun, not nothing other than embarrassing. I’m sure a hat made to look like a wedge of cheese will be in future episodes…

    • Livie1

      Oh in dislikes I forgot to add being booted out of a dinner party I was invited to…by the host the second SHE finishes her fruit. SMH!!! Keep it classy there Carol!!!

    • Sophia Z.

      Great post, Livie. I’m with you in all of it. I see a lot of positives in the show. It’s not controlled by Bravo yet. I loved Caroline’s dress also, it was a lot more original than the sea of red dresses that were there. One of the problems with the McQueen dress is that it did not fit properly. Not only that, I have never been a fan of anything much coming out of the House of McQueen. But you are right, it did flow well.
      I loved that Carol booted everyone out of the party. I thought that was realistic and funny. She’s an odd duck and I like that about her.
      I’m 100% with you on Marissa. I find her absolutely boring. She’s too much like a 50’s housewife to me. Like if her husband ever left her she would be completely lost in this world. I may be wrong but that is the sense I get from her. I was shocked to see the mean girl in her last night. It was ugly.

      • Livie1

        McQueen dress, no it did not fit properly at all (obviously the bust was the issue.) Even with obvious alterations/pinnings that were made by time they got to Carol’s. LOL, interesting you say that about the House of McQueen as when I saw the dress, I thought “that doesn’t look like a McQueen!!” because..it didn’t!!

        I liked Carol also. What I really liked about her was the relationship she’s shared with Caroline and vice versa. I very much enjoy seeing genuine friendships, not ones put together for filming. There’s an ease between them I find fun. Same with Caroline’s SIL Sophie. While she’s not featured much, her affection for Caroline seems genuine too.

        • Sophia Z.

          I wish they had shown the other dress too. I was disappointed when they didn’t. I think the editing department must have been asleep on this episode. It was a miss all the way around.
          Carol seems harmless to me, we’ll have to wait and see about that. What I really liked about her is that she is just as real as anyone and that stupid rule about being regal is out the door. I think that’s why everyone loved Diana? I’m sure she can act regal when the need arises.
          I’m with you, I like to see genuine friendships with a history, something I don’t really see on the HW shows. I enjoy the past stories, etc… The story about taking Carol to the comedy club was funny considering Carol’s laughing style.
          I liked Sophia also. I hope that she makes more guest appearances in the future. She seemed easy going and sweet.

          • Livie1

            That is exactly what I love to see, genuine friendships based on mutual respect, fun, love of whatever they both love – dresses, horses, old houses, family, etc. What I don’t love to see are manufactured friendships and worse yet, manufactured dramas. (Suspicious the Juliet vs Marissa tiff has some of that influence going on.)

            For me so far my favorite things have been #1, the clothing. Even that odd show Annabelle was involved in where the models looked like birds had pooped on them right before they hit the runway. (I like a good joke just like the next person – lol. And I think that was a joke. But didn’t really sell the clothes for me.)

            Next, #2 is the houses but not really so much the estates. I’m fascinated by those London homes with no front yards!! And the kitchens on different levels. It reminds me of Absolutely Fabulous with Pats and Eddie 🙂

            (OK the estates didn’t suck or anything, just not as interesting to me.)

          • Sophia Z.

            Really? You think the tiff between Marissa and Juliet may be manufactured? Hmmmm, I don’t think so but you may be right. Juliet doesn’t strike me as one to have a tiff if someone tells her to. She seems to have her own mind. I will have to think about this today. It would upset me if Bravo is doing this already to this show. Though I could see Marissa manufacturing this. I really think this woman has a very mean side to her. I don’t trust her at all.

            The clothing has been fun to watch, yes. You’re right about the fashion show. What was up with those shoes? I know it’s all in the name of fashion…

            Yes, the houses have been a great thing to see. I’m a little more into the estates though. It is fun to see what fixtures, furniture, etc… someone puts into their homes and how home style is so much like it is here. The yards, that’s so funny. I told one of my friends from England that I needed to mow the yard. He asked “what’s a yard?”. They have so much less space there is why most people don’t have a lawn. I’m not so sure I would like living in a row house. And ah, I miss Ab Fab.. so funny.

            I love Caroline’s home. It’s by far my favorite. She has it decorated so well. Very tasteful, so much like her. Of all the characters, I would most like to meet Caroline. But am afraid of what she would say to me, lol.

          • Livie1

            Marissa vs Juliet tiff: Oh heck yes I think Bravo stirred the pot on what otherwise would have been a non-issue. Someone in production whispered in one or both’s ears a little something, I’m certain of it.

          • Sophia Z.

            What a huge disappointment if that is true. Such a shame that Bravo has to go in and ruin things.

          • Livie1

            Sophia, I wonder why hardly anyone is on this thread? I thought before there were a lot of people that liked this show…not that it isn’t FUN chatting with you, I love that!!! 🙂

            I read on dailymail comments and NO ONE likes Marissa over on that – wow!! Interesting!!

          • Sophia Z.

            I think once a show airs most people tend to post and then go off to newer stories. But I also think there are not enough people watching the show. I don’t get it either, Livie. I would love to see more people post about the show on here. Maybe it just needs some time.
            I don’t go to other websites so that’s interesting what you write. My gut feeling about Marissa seems to permeate other people also. Good! I think we will see a very ugly side of Marissa this season. Not that we haven’t already seen some of it this week.

          • Livie1

            I just hope Dani-K continues to write recaps on this show 🙂 Of course I’m new so all excited about something on reality tv I actually like watching!!

            I read the above british online rag as I love the great photos they always have there. Just happened upon the article on LoL and comment section was not one Marissa would have liked reading. Here they do a MUCH better job of recaps and snark too 🙂

          • Sophia Z.

            I hope Dani-K continues also. There are enough posts on this page for the show to be recognized IMO. I am the same way, I am wanting to talk all about the show and the excitement of the show has died down. I’m going to check out Daily Post.
            Is the new season up on zippcast yet? I looked and can’t find it.
            Oh and to add to previous story about LVP and twitter. Lisa sees this going on. I would like for her to calm it down if she can.

          • Livie1

            Yes the new season is on AATT’s zippcast – that’s where I watched the second episode of season 2 after I fell asleep the night when it was broadcast. It’s labelled “LOL 2 x 2” I believe.

            Yes, I agree if it’s LVP’s page/account, then the ultimate responsibility is hers to make sure things don’t devolve into what you’re describing. I’m sure she has staff that can handle that all easily.

          • Sophia Z.

            I just popped over to Daily Mail and read the comments section. Pretty funny stuff. I wonder if Marissa is reading that stuff and that is why she is playing so much on twitter.

            Thank you for telling me about the Zipcast post. I will re-watch and post some more. I’m actually working during the day and come over here when I am out of creative energy, it somehow helps so it’s hard to keep my mind on the show.

            I agree that LVP needs to take care of that problem. She prides herself on doing her own tweeting but it just is coming off bad with one in particular, the one that knows her. And that is where most of the harassment begins, others take it on.

          • Livie1

            Me too Sophia, I love taking a little gossip break from my work chores!! This is a great place to do that!!!

            yes that’s kind of funny what I read too over there. The Melissa Love just is not there is it??

            OK, back to work for both of us, xoxoxo!!!

          • Sophia Z.

            No, Marissa is not loved over there and I’m seeing on twitter some that it isn’t there, either. People are actually sticking up for Juliet. I have to say how Marissa treated Juliet was horrible and it was all a big game to Marissa so she’s getting what she deserves.

          • Sophia Z.

            IMO.. she needs to take care of it somehow, stat.

          • Livie1

            Oh Sophia, I’m sure you could hold your own with Caroline!! lol!! She very much reminds me of LVP with her type of humor and delivery. She’s confident without being a jerk about it, which is one of the big reasons I like LVP overall.

          • Sophia Z.

            I think you are right about Caroline being harmless. I’m not so sure about LVP anymore though due to twitter. Long story of a lot of harassment and followers that some know her.

            No, I have not seen Joanna Lumley’s documentaries. They sound great though. I will look them up online and see what that is about. I love travel documentaries. I wonder if they are IFC?! I will check it out.

          • Livie1

            Oh boy, I guess I should read some twitter stuff. Totally clueless as to LVP and her tweets 🙁 I’m just going on the shows and admittedly that’s not exactly a “truth cannon” version of anything – lol.

          • Sophia Z.

            Twitter is a garbage dump in my opinion and TL even said that the other day. Basically you have two groups of fans of LVP. One side has one person who vaguely knows her in person so most people follow that person thinking they can get in good with Lisa. Then there is the other side who tries to tweet Lisa and if they tweet too much then the other side bullies them to pieces. To the point of them harassing one of the tweeters daughter. Police involved in some of this because two of the tweeters in separate incidents have had to call police. I got harassed and chose to drop most of my LVP friends just because one of them got jealous of my being accepted. It’s all very childish and not worth the time.

          • Livie1

            Good grief!! I had no idea! Naturally the jerks have to ruin a fun thing – ugh! Sorry you got harassed, what the heck is wrong with people????

            PS, who is “TL”?

          • Sophia Z.

            I think everyone has been harassed on Twitter one time or another. What you watch out for are the people who fight on a consistent basis. TL means twitter lead (what everyone is tweeting). And I don’t know what is wrong with people. Million dollar question.

          • Dani-K

            I hope next week we get a better idea of who Sophie is. Will she bow down to her sister in law Caroline who no doubt got her on the show? Or will she stand up for herself if it means not always siding with Caroline? I’m looking forward to finding out.

          • Sophia Z.

            Ohhhhhhh, good questions! I never thought that far ahead. Caroline is such a strong personality – this should be interesting!

    • Sophia Z.

      Livie, bravo put up a post about Caroline’s trip to Dubai. Here is the post: take the spaces out of the address to connect: bravotv. com/the-daily-dish/ladies-of-london-caroline-stanbury-chic-trip-to-dubai

      • Livie1

        Thanks for the address Sophia 🙂 I did take a tour there and I agree, she’s got a great sense of style and knows how to dress for her own unique look. The word tasteful comes to mind but then again I saw the preview clip for next week’s show and she’s in a full body animal costume? Those kooky Brits!! 😉

    • Sophia Z.

      I invited Caroline to come here to visit off of twitter. I hope she shows up. Caroline, don’t think we are weird but we just think you make the show.

      • Livie1

        LOL, I love what you said there Sophia. No, we’re NOT weird!! At least not in the Marissa/Juliet weirdness catagory 😉

  • Sophia Z.

    OMG… you are so freaking funny. I already have whiskers but they are not long, I keep them tweezed. lol

    • ohjeez

      ha!

  • Livie1

    Ohjeez, LOL, I was hoping you’d have some rat poison for us here!!!

    • ohjeez

      man i wasn’t even a huge marissa fan but all this support for julirat boggles my mind so much that now i am officially a marissa fan!! i think the baroness may be my fav tho.

      • Livie1

        ohjeez, thanks I needed my JuliRat fix!!!! 🙂