Breaking News: TLC Yanks ’19 Kids and Counting’ In Wake of Josh Duggar Molesting Underage Girls

Posted on May 22 2015 - 2:51pm by Dani-K

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TLC has yet another firestorm on their hands. Josh Duggar, 27, star of “19 Kids and Counting” is accused of allegedly molesting underage girls, including his sisters, twelve years ago. Josh released a statement saying that he “acted inexcusably” and was “deeply sorry” for “my wrongdoing.”

This is a horrific and profoundly sad event to occur to any family. The Duggar’s have received both love and criticism over the years due to their beliefs and lifestyle choices, but overall, was well received and TLC hit. However, just 24 hours after news broke of the scandal, TLC has decided to pull reruns of “19 Kids and Counting in the wake of allegations that Josh Dugger molested five underage girls as a teen.

“TLC has pulled all episodes of 19 Kids and Counting currently from the air,” said the network in a statement. “We are deeply saddened and troubled by this heartbreaking situation, and our thoughts and prayers are with the family and victims at this difficult time.”

The police report for Sex Offense-Forcible Fondling was filed recently on May 19, 2015, but the incident identified in the report occurred on December 07, 2006. Five victims were named in the heavily redacted report. So how did police find out about this nearly nine years later? According to the report, a “family friend” who knew of the molestation wrote about in on a piece of paper and placed that paper inside a book. Years later, that book was loaned to a church friend who discovered the letter and called a hot-line to report it.

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When police called to arrange for an interview with the victim named in the letter, Michelle Duggar informed them that they were currently in Chicago to be on the Oprah Winfrey show. There is a note in the report that states just prior to their appearance on the show, Harpo Studios received a tip informing them what Josh Duggar is being accused of. The interview was scheduled for December 12, 2006.

During the interview, Jim Duggar admitted that his daughter came to him said “touching and fondling” had occurred 4/5 times to her by Josh while she was “half way” asleep. Jim says that he met with church elders about what had taken place. The elders decided that a four-month program with Christian counseling and manual labor would be best. About this “program” Michelle admitted to police in her interview that it was not a program with a certified counselor, but a guy who was “kind of” a “mentor” and was remodeling a house.

Of the children interviewed, some said they did not remember this event, though they knew it occurred 3 ½ years ago. One victim said she did remember the incident, but it only happened once, and that Josh had apologized and been forgiven for touching her buttocks. A different child told the detective that years ago the family had two meeting on Josh and his “inappropriate touching.” These meeting were one year apart and Josh was sent to the “Christian program” after the second family meeting.

So where were police when this occurred? Patriarch Jim said that they informed an Arkansas State Trooper who gave a “very stern talk” about what would happen to Josh if this behavior continued. The family was united in their position that Josh was reformed after he completed his “program” and no incidents have occurred since then. Most disturbing in the report were several quotes that this incident had “brought them closer to God.”

On December 19, 2006, the detective was informed by Jim Duggar that Josh had an attorney and therefore they were canceling his scheduled interview with police that day. The following day, the detective received a call from that attorney informing police that he had declined to represent Josh Duggar, and though he recommended another attorney, that attorney had also declined representation of Josh. The last entry on the police report is December 20, 2006 when the detective left a message for Jim Duggar on his cell phone referencing the interview of Josh.

Tell us what you think. Was this a cover up or was the ball dropped? Do you think “19 Kids and Counting” will survive this?

 

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  • Damn! This is a shame. If he’s indeed guilty he needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Prosecuted for something he did when he was a minor? And that has no official file? What’s that statute of limitations for a sex offense of this nature? Probably long since passed.
      But good to see the hypocrites getting blasted by everyone. Very few coming to their defense, other than Mike Huckabee.

      • Yolie

        Why do you consider them hypocrites?

        • WestCoastFeed

          Because they excuse their son’s sexual offenses but blast the LGBT community for their sexual activities.

          • Yolie

            They did not excuse Josh’s behavior. From what I’ve read, they addressed it, took the issue to the church elders and sought therapy for him.

          • Sophia Z.

            He needs to be locked up for the remainder of his life so he doesn’t ruin anyone else’s life. You cannot reform a child molester.

      • Sophia Z.

        Mike Huckabee… why doesn’t he just give the campaign money to a charity? Does he actually think he will win?

        • WestCoastFeed

          He just might poll well enough to qualify for that first campaign debate.

          • Sophia Z.

            scary.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Along with Donald Trump.

          • Sophia Z.

            Bahhhhaaahahaha! That will be a show. I’m hoping he changes his mind by June. The world sits back and laughs!

  • italiano bambino

    The hypocrisy of the duggars has no limits . glad the truths is coming out

  • Yolie

    I for one support the Duggar family. The liberals dugged up this dirt just to discredit the family. The Duggars stand against homosexuality and that’s why they’re being targeted. Josh was a teenager when the incidents occurred. He was young and exploring his sexuality. We’ve all been there. I don’t think he should be prosecuted for something that happened when he was a kid.

    • Gabby

      Ummmmm….OMG!

      “He was young and exploring his sexuality.”
      Let’s just say he was exploring his sexuality…who in their right mind would do so with their sibling(s)? Why did he wait until they fell asleep or were half asleep? Shouldn’t the exploration be consensual and hopefully with someone who isn’t a family member?

      “We’ve all been there.”
      Nope! I have a younger sister and never thought about her in that way, nor did I molest her in her sleep.

  • RealitytvJunkie

    Finally. Republican family values. Underneath, they are all, as Hitchcock would say, “bent.”

  • Dave

    Josh must be really PO’d that his campaign to take rights away from gay people has come to an end. It’s too bad we’re forced to forgive him. I mean he said he was sorry AND he prayed. So we don’t have a choice. We have to forgive.

  • CNN

    Best thing I heard all day. About time this cult religious family has been taken off the air. Hopefully all the articles about their reproducing family will stop now. These people are evil.

  • WestCoastFeed

    And today Ireland is voting on allowing same sex marriages. Can that possibly be passed in a country so solidly Catholic? Times are changing and families like the Duggars need to open their minds.

    • Yolie

      I hope they don’t.

      • WestCoastFeed

        You hope the Duggars don’t open their minds? Or you hope that Ireland rejects same sex marriages?

        • Yolie

          I hope Ireland rejects same sex marriage.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Times are changing and Ireland will come around like everywhere else has.

    • Thanks WCF! I would have thought same sex marriage was legal there already.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Ireland? That priest-ridden country?

        • I don’t know much about the country.

        • Sophia Z.

          Mostly Catholic, yes.

  • Jennymckitty

    I’ve never watched this show. Their lifestyle has no appeal to me and I’ve always wonder how one can be a hands on parent to 19 children when there are days that I am exhausted caring for one. I am sick for the girls…both family and nonrelatives. I feel that Jim-Bob, as an adult and parent, didn’t handle this well…morally or legally. I hope that no one thinks I’m making excuses for Josh, but I wonder if he knew what he was doing was sexual. I know this sounds odd but these children lived in a vacuum. While it would be impossible to believe that a child over the age of 10 hadn’t heard everything about sex from school, playground, TV and the Internet, how much had these children learned? It’s obvious they knew about babies and where they come from but had the parents told them about anything else? Did they think talking about it would lead to forbidden sexual fantasies? Like I said, the adults always knew this was wrong and at some point Josh did as well.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I agree. The family are religious nuts who turn out to be your garden variety neighborhood pedo happens so frequently it borders on the cliche at this point. As in, OF COURSE one of them is a pervert. My money was on dad.

    • Well said Jenny. My sentiments exactly. The kids do live in a vacuum. They are all home-schooled, do not watch TV or listen to the radio or use the internet.

      • Jennymckitty

        Thanks, Seuss. I was kind of afraid to post that. I worried some would think I was trying to protect Josh. I’ve been wondering about how aware he was of the nature of his actions since this story broke.

        • You’re welcome Jenny. And I don’t think your comment comes off as you defending Josh. It’s inquisitive of his background thats all. And his sheltered upbringing does play a part in this.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Do they only associate with other cult members?

        • LMAO! Yes, they generally associate with other large families that share the same religious practices.

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            Gosh not too far off from the plural marriage nutcases, the Browns!!!

          • That’s crazy. I’m crazy, but I generally friendly and friends with people of various backgrounds. These people are sick! And my memory is fuzzy, but isn’t the family that practice polygamy on this same network?

          • YUP! Same network. The polygamy show is called Sister Wives.

          • See this here is why I really only watch the Housewives. Bravo doesn’t have the best track record either, but as far we know, they’re not hiring polygamists and molesters .. just multiple time offenders and convicted felons.

        • Sophia Z.

          LMAO!

    • Sophia Z.

      I have never watched nor did I know anything about the show beyond the “concept” until today. I’m just mortified! You make very good points here, Jenny. Thank you.

    • cait

      Legally, ignorance is no defence of the law, I think it was learned behaviour !

      • Sophia Z.

        You’re probably right about that. Sad.

    • cait

      I think this twonk had inherited daddy stuff !

    • TopGear

      Inappropriate relations between siblings isolated from the world, left to raise each other, and fed an extremist version of Christianity? Duggar family sounds like the plot to Flowers in the Attic?

      • Jennymckitty

        I suppose I was thinking Blue Lagoon but Flowers is probably more applicable.

  • WestCoastFeed

    The Duggar family is making the Giudices look wholesome.

    • Ha! Apples to oranges. Both bad though.

      • Sophia Z.

        LMAO

        • Hey Sophia! 🙂

          • Sophia Z.

            Hey Suess! How’s it going? This is just too weird for me, what a strange story. You can’t make this stuff up!

          • I agree but I knew there was something off…I couldn’t quite place my finger on it.

          • Sophia Z.

            You mean you actually watched it? LOL (Not laughing at you, laughing at the show.)

          • On rare occasions when nothing else is on. I wish ‘Homeland’ would hurry and come back.

          • Sophia Z.

            I will give it a try. If you like it, I’m sure I will. xox

    • Chloe

      This is a bad week to be a religious freak. First, there was the married, anti-gay preacher looking for a man hole on Grindr, now this!

    • Sophia Z.

      I’m afraid you are correct on that. Thief vs pedophile. Giudices win.

  • Chloe

    I can’t wait for the statements released by that clan blaming the person who discovered this issue for the negative outcome. They’ll fall back on religion to try and keep all fingers pointing elsewhere.

    The twisted criminal behind it being the CEO of that organization that thinks religious freedom means forcing everyone else to cater only to them even if it means stomping all over the religious freedoms of those who believe differently as well as pandering to pedophiles is really ironic.

    Ahh, religion. It has worked since the beginning of time insuring that believers will never commit evil acts but if they do it’s some evil force more powerful than the main deity.

    • Sophia Z.

      Religion is best kept to oneself. When it is spewed by people like this then it just shows that they know nothing about the topic other than their twisted ideals.
      I hope he is locked up for life!

      • Chloe

        Absolutely, Sophia. Religion is definitely a topic I steer clear from. TLC must stop being a breathing ground for pedophiles, oafs, rejects, and nimrods.

        • Sophia Z.

          LMAO! I have never watched the channel beyond channel surfing. I think to myself what the h@11? What weird shows and what kind of people watch this channel? I cannot believe they have sponsors.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I watch Who Do You Think You Are. But I’m a genealogy nut.

          • Sophia Z.

            Maybe I’m missing out on something here. Ok, I admit it, every once and a while I will stop and watch “say yes to the dress”, that’s on TLC, right? I got outted!

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            I just watched this afternoon some old episodes of The Little Couple, pre-adoption of Baby Zoey. Now that’s a family I’d love to know! TLC has such an odd spectrum of shows.

            Like Yes to Dress except when they feature nasty moms – ugh, I want to see beautiful gowns, not ugliness!

          • Sophia Z.

            They do have a broad spectrum of very weird shows. Now the Little Couple? I won’t watch it. It seems to me that they are making a carnie show out of other people’s handicaps.
            I agree about the Mom’s. And girlfriends, they can be so ugly!

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            Oh Sophia, Jen the mom is a doctor, so well-spoken and accomplished! I wouldn’t for a second watch something that was making fun of someone’s medical condition, which from what I’ve learned (on the show) is what dwarfism is considered. Both “Little Couple” people are extremely intelligent and imo, people I look up to, no matter their height!

            Trust me!! 🙂

          • Sophia Z.

            Ok, I will give it a try. I have a friend that is a little person. She is so smart and well accomplished.

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            The bridesmaid-centered Say Yes to the Dress shows are almost scary sometime – lol!! Ratchet???!!!!! I’m yelling at the screen, who the h@ll is getting married here, huh??? lol.

          • Chloe

            TLC use to stand for The Learning Channel not anymore. Btw, I was wondering, is 19 Kids and Counting the title of the show or is it the number of kids Josh molested ?

          • Sophia Z.

            LMAO! You’re so funny! In a twisted way! Love it!

          • Chloe

            You’re too kind, Sophia. Thanks. I got one more. A caption for the 1st picture in this blog: “Don’t let him touch me… don’t let him touch me… please God, don’t let him touch me… damn, he’s looking at me.”

          • Sophia Z.

            OMG. I almost peed my pants.

          • Chloe

            Oopsie!

          • Sophia Z.

            Are you on twitter? You’re HILARIOUS!

          • Chloe

            Sorry no Twitter or Facebook for me. I only post on blogs.

          • Sophia Z.

            You need to do stand up.

          • Chloe

            Now that’s funny! My family would disagree but thank you, Sophia.

          • Sophia Z.

            Maybe TLC will give you a show of your own? LOL

          • cait

            Soph, Pants in wash NOW !

          • Sophia Z.

            LMAO

          • cait

            If you decide not to wash them, could you post them to me at Box 123, Anyplace, UK !

          • Sophia Z.

            LMAO! You’re sick! But funny.

          • cait

            I try to please, Soph !

          • Sophia Z.

            Tell you what, my neighbor is about 325 pounds. She hangs her panties on the line in her garden (lovely). I’ll send you a pair of those. I aim to please also.

  • Yolie

    Well, Lena Dun-Ham survived this kind of scandal, so I guess the Duggar family will too.

  • Sophia Z.

    M favorite saying when I drive through weird towns and it applies here: “Freaks freaks weirdo’s weirdo’s.

    • Chloe

      That certainly applies here.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yep. These are the kind of folk who are terrified of sharia law yet want to impose their own sharia law on others.

        • Sophia Z.

          EXACTLY! That is a very good point.

        • Chloe

          Yes. The family lives in a hypocritical bubble. Just the mere fact they used the word “mistake” seriously minimizes what Josh has done, when the interest of the children should have been of paramount importance.

          • Sophia Z.

            Agreed. This stuff ruins people’s lives forever. That’s unforgivable. Do something to themselves but don’t harm others!

        • cheryl

          And Sharia law is ok? everyone should be afraid of Sharia law. Like the two are morally equivalent? Sharia and these folk? Honest to god that’s nuts WCF. Sharia execute gays and abuse women.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            & the Duggars hate gays, speak against them & abuse & control women. All under the guise of their religion! Jmho.

          • cheryl

            the Duggars do not practice honor killings on women and children..i am not defending the Duggars..i am 60 and was abused as a young girl when i was 10..not defending Duggers actions..just the comparison to sharia law is over the top and out of persective

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            While the Duggar religion may not be as extreme, the mentality behind them is similar. They both use God to get what they want & to do & say as they please. All in the name of God.

          • WestCoastFeed

            It is only a matter of degree. In both cases it involves imposing one’s own personal beliefs on others.

          • WestCoastFeed

            We are fortunate to live in a country where the constitution protects us from religion. Both sharia law and Duggar law.

  • Who thinks TLC will cancel “19 Kids & Counting” outright? The ratings are phenomenal and the show makes the network a ton of money.

    • Sophia Z.

      No one? I think we all have ethics here.

      • Sadly, when it comes to the ole’ MIGHTY dollar, ethics goes out the window with networks.

        • Sophia Z.

          I’m afraid you are right, Seuss. It’s up to the audience to write advertisers and tell them they will not watch and shame on them for supporting the show then not watch! Enough of those letters and advertisers will pull out. Which is what Josh should have done a long time ago!

          • Bingo! People need to turn the channel and that will send a direct message to the advertisers…the people do not support molestors.

          • Sophia Z.

            They also need to contact advertisers to let them know it’s not good to support this junk.

    • WestCoastFeed

      If they can pass this off as just another instance of kids playing doctor, I think they will stick with the show. But from the comments I’ve seen from folks who have read the actual police report, it went way beyond the “normal sexual curiosity” phase. He was going after these girls when they were asleep.

      • Sophia Z.

        Ok that just made the creepy meter go off the charts. It’s suggested below that it was a learned behavior. Sounds like it to me.

      • West, something tells me that TLC will look for an angle (much like you described above – playing dr) to keep the show going. I reference A&E with Duck Dynasty. That show is a HUGE money maker and A&E didn’t cancel despite all the public protest and outcry. But time will tell how the network responds to this scandal. They’ll need an Olivia Pope PR Fixer to get them out of this mess.

        • Ilivehereandlikeit

          Seuss, the molestation factor is the thing that will give TLC pause, which wasn’t the issue with Duck Dynasty. I think the 19 Kids show is toast. I may be wrong, however, have been before!

          • Sophia Z.

            I truly hope you are right Ilh&li.

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            Sophia call me Live – I have got to get a different screen name, I made a poor choice on that one – lol!!

            I hope I’m right too.

          • Sophia Z.

            Okey, Live. I just don’t see advertisers supporting that kind of drama/sickness, too much liability.

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            Yeah I agree Sophia, I think this will be another Honey Boo Boo, first they’ll (TLC) pretend they have no idea what’s going on, then it will be gone as more and more bad press is generated.

          • I really hope so. In light of the seriousness of the allegations the show needs to be taken off the air entirely. If they continue it will set a bad precedent but will people stop watching if the show stayed?

          • Sophia Z.

            I would imagine the audience would get larger due to the scandal if it stayed on. But again, advertisers have a name to keep.

          • Ilivehereandlikeit

            Oh I’m certain there would still be viewers but probably not the volume they’ve enjoyed up to this point. Ethically TLC knows what to do but….I guess we’ll see their true colors!

      • Addie2U

        Hi ya West Coast ☺. I have very mixed feelings about this new Duggar revelation. I’ve read several sites & the police report (more than once) & it appears Josh was 14yrs old when he “inappropriately touched” his sisters (& 1 friend?) “outside of their clothes” while they were sleeping + touched one of their “bare buttocks”. There was absolutely NO mention of any type of penetration. Should a sexually confused young boy who was riddled with guilt & told his parents be held to the same degree of shame or persecution as an older child or an adult who does this?

        Not this site, but MANY others are printing misleading information or eliminating actual facts (clearly wanting to further vilify this family). As Dani-K wrote here, the parents contacted the authorities & Josh then spent the next 4 months outside the home with Christian counseling & manual labor. Also upon his return – his treatment continued for several years (nearly up till the time of his marriage).

        (BTW, I don’t blame any family for not placing their child in a sex rehab (or drug rehab for that matter). The reason being – that’s exactly where many troubled youth learn all the tricks of the trade & it commonly worsens the behavior you’re trying to prevent. If a drug addict wants to learn where to score the best drugs – send them to rehab & guaranteed they’ll score better drugs when they get out.)

        Without a doubt this was devastating for the entire family & they’ve clearly dealt with it → as a family. This is not a case of the victims releasing info to the media – but clearly a case of this info being leaked for a “purpose”. By
        whom & for what purpose was this information leaked – other than by those
        who are hell bent on destroying this family once & for all.

        Reading comments on various sites – it is mindboggling how the majority of people are absolutely thrilled with this news! In nearly every site running this story the comment sections are overflowing with the majority saying “This made my day / I’m soooo happy / I knew they had to be hiding something / They’re pedophiles / Take their children away / They ALL belong in prison” / etc.

        Though I certainly don’t agree with everything “Duggar”, it appears Josh has turned his turned his life around. He’s self-sufficient, happily married with 3 young children with another on the way. Isn’t that what we want as a society, people to confess their sins / admit their faults, ask for forgiveness & be redeemed? Josh & his family did exactly that & they are not denying this happened. And whoever did this, could care less about the victims! Even though their names are redacted in the police report, it clearly states their parents’ names. So these poor girls were just used as collateral!

        As wrong as what Josh did, I think those who “outed” this are just as bad. For whoever “leaked” this news it was more important to destroy this family than protecting names of innocent minor victims! What ever happened to a minors records being sealed?

        ETA: I wrote something similar on Facebook & within 4 hours I was reported for deception (i.e. using a fake name)! I lost my account & unless I submit government approved forms of ID I will not be able to retrieve it!! Tell me there’s not a group on a mission.

        • WestCoastFeed

          Addie, my immediate reaction to this story was why wasn’t it sealed since all the parties were minors. Somehow the story has been floating around the internet for several years in the gossip blogs. I gather that In Touch got it through the Freedom of Info Act. So I guess it was inevitable that it would hit the major media. I agree that this does not make Josh a pedophile and someone who should be labelled with the stigma of sex offender. However, I do think it displays his lack of character. And because the Duggars are such a self-righteous bunch, people are thoroughly enjoyed their mortification.

    • CNN

      I’m reasonably sure TLC will cancel the program. They behaved similarly with Honey Boo Boo back when it came out her mother was dating a convicted child molester; first they pulled all episodes, and a couple of days later announced the cancellation.

      • Ilivehereandlikeit

        I agree CNN. I just read a bit ago TLC had cancelled a scheduled marathon of the show. I think it’s a goner.

      • I would agree but the difference here is “Honey Boo Boo’s” ratings were in the toilet and “19 Kids & Counting” ratings are soaring. Time will tell though and it will be pretty interesting to see how TLC responds.

    • T’s Martini Lounge

      You know money talks! HBO hasn’t canceled “Girls” either after Lena Dunham admitted to the exact same thing in her book. They all disgust me.

      • Addie2U

        Actually from what I understand what Lena Dunham did was more disturbing. Didn’t she explore & fiddle her sister until the age of 18?

  • TopGear

    I will be so happy to never hear about these religious nuts ever again. TLC seems to just be a freak show channel and I’m so not surprised. It always seems the more religious – the more dirt and skeletons in the closet.

    • Ilivehereandlikeit

      It’s the typical glass houses thing!

      • TopGear

        Exactly — classic glass houses.

  • jane

    Part of what is disturbing about this whole situation is that JimBob and Michelle were well aware of what had happened within their family and went ahead with the show anyway. As parents, they completely disrespected their own childrens’ privacy and risked not only their own but all of their childrens’ reputations by selling out and becoming famewhores.

    • Ilivehereandlikeit

      Jane this is exactly what disturbs me also.

    • TopGear

      Josh, calling repeated molestations “mistakes” is utterly sickening. I can’t get past the part where he says he learned that if he continued the inappropriate behavior he would ruin his life…. Right… what about ruining the lives of the girls whom he violated?

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes, seems to be the way the males think in the Duggar family. Girls don’t matter.

        • TopGear

          They come from a long line of male chauvinist lineage.

          • jane

            Their church is part of the Quiverfull movement which is based on women being completely subservient to all of a man’s needs. Homeschooling, suppression of sexuality development, females dressing modestly, early marriage and procreating without the use of birth control are part of the beliefs.

          • Yolie

            The Duggars are conservative Christians. Good for them. There’s something wholesome about living a pro-life purist lifestyle (known as Quiverfull). Personally, I feel birth-control is a form of abortion. Family planning should be entrusted to God only.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Do you want to deny other women access to birth control? I doubt that.

          • Yolie

            I am only voicing my feeling and I wish birth-control never existed.

          • WestCoastFeed

            But would you deny it to other women by law?

          • Yolie

            Absolutely. I don’t think the government should being footing the bill for it either.

          • WestCoastFeed

            And thus you want to impose your own personal religious beliefs on the rest of the country. Very much like sharia law.

          • Yolie

            It goes both ways. You’re trying to use your beliefs (religious or otherwise) to control this country.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I am not trying to control you, but I refuse to let you control me.

          • Yolie

            I am not trying to control you. I’m standing up for the innocent. Murdering a baby is not OK.

          • WestCoastFeed

            That’s your opinion. Not my opinion

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            West did not say that you had to have an abortion. She only said that your religious beliefs shouldn’t trump my right to do so if I should choose to have one. Kind of apples & oranges Yolie

          • jane

            Respectfully, it absolutely does go both ways Yolie. What you are saying here could very well be turned around to you as well.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Are you serious Yolie?

          • Yolie

            Yes, I am serious.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Have you educated yourself about that particular religion? (& I am being kind when using the word religion because I believe they are a cult, just like the FLDS/fundamentalist Mormons.)
            Have you looked into Quiverfull at all?

          • Yolie

            I’m quite familiar. I grew up in the religion.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Okay. Makes sense now. Thanks

          • jane

            To each their own. I respect your beliefs even if I may not agree with them and if that is the way you live your life and you are happy, so be it. As far as the Duggars themselves, I find it hard to respect them for going on national television and social media representing themselves as morally just, knowing this “secret” existed. It was their responsibility as parents to make sure their own childrens’ privacy and reputations were respected. It was their responsibility to make sure these children all got the counseling they needed; yet not one of them, even Josh has had any professional counseling. No, instead they chose to risk exposing this situation and possibly ruining their childrens’ lives all for the sake of fame and fortune.

          • Yolie

            Thank you for respecting my beliefs. You’re very kind. I agree with you, all parties involved should have received professional therapy.

          • She Codes

            Yeah and allowing your son to play ‘tickle the vagina’ with his sisters with total impunity is so wholesome, purist. Real Christians are revolted by your beliefs.

          • Sophia Z.

            And yet it is ok for Viagra and Ciallis to be handed out to the “menfolk” like it is candy.

      • jane

        Agree completely. Those girls, whether they have “forgiven” him or not will live with those memories the rest of their lives. And being brought up in an environment where any sexual conduct is considered wrong ouside of marriage and the continuing stressing of dressing modestly so as not to arouse a visual male, imagine the guilt they carry around inside wondering what they did wrong to bring that upon themselves. Another very disturbing issue I have is that NONE of the parties invloved, including Josh, never had any real counseling to deal with this. These parents covered this all up and as far as I’m concerned bear a great deal of the responsibility for their childrens’ messed up psyches.

      • Jennymckitty

        I have no idea how Josh views his actions. I would be willing to bet every statement given by all the family members was carefully worded by a high priced lawyer to limit liability if criminal and/or civil charges can still possibly be filed. The victims deserve him to take accountability for his actions. I don’t see that happening publicly, however.

  • WestCoastFeed

    General Mills has pulled its advertising from the show.

    • TopGear

      That’s great news!

    • Whoa that’s major. If more big advertisers follow suit the show will get pulled quicker.
      Thanks West.

    • Yolie

      I pray they don’t get canceled, the show employs a lot of people and feeds a lot of mouths.

      • She Codes

        I’m praying to god that some government agency is tracking your IP and checking for child porn sites.

  • Dave

    TLC now has new meaning, “Touching Little Children”

  • Fritz the. At

    Pedophiles just don’t stop being monsters. Hopefully his other victims will come forward so this monster heads to jail where he belongs. Shame on his parents for the cover up. All along they blame gays for hurting children. I am so outraged I can’t think straight.

    • Jennymckitty

      Is a 14 year old a who molests someone close to their own age a pedophile? I have been wondering if that is an appropriate label.

      • WestCoastFeed

        No, I wouldn’t call him a pedophile. I think I will settle for “shitheel. I bet he sees his wife as someone he can take advantage of, just as he took advantage of the easy access to his sisters. I don’t think he will try to molest any more little girls. His parents probably terrified him of masturbation, so he went after his sisters.

        • Jennymckitty

          I feel certain that he sees his wife as his property and she was raised the same way, so I doubt she objects. He molested some of his sisters and other girls but I don’t think he finds prepubescent girls sexually stimulating now. I think the lifestyle in which he was raised plays a part in this but he is till responsible for his actions.

        • She Codes

          You just perfectly described a sexual predator/incest perpetrator. Without any form of concern for the victims. This is why the world is so phucked up… constant coddling of male sexual abuse.

      • Yolie

        Agreed. Josh is not a pedophile. We should be careful with confusing adolescent high jinks with Josh being predator. He’s not a sexual predator or pedophile. He was a minor when the incidents occurred so I don’t know why it’s being discussed today.

        • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

          Adolescent high jinks? Really?
          Adolescent high jinks?

          • Fritz the. At

            Thank you tiger!

        • She Codes

          What the ever loving FUCK?!? So repeatedly forcibly touching your sisters’ breasts, vaginas and buttocks, plus a family friends’ is ‘adolescent hijinks?!

          • Fritz the. At

            Can’t believe what I am reading here. He is a pedophile.

        • Jennymckitty

          Don’t get me wrong, I think what he did was beyond adolescent high jinx and I do feel he molested his sisters and others. However, a pedophile is someone who is aroused by prepubescent girls/boys. He was a minor then. I don’t think that necessarily makes him a pedophile.

        • jane

          Sorry to disagree with you that what Josh did was adolescent high jinks. A 14/15 year old teenager touching a younger child’s breasts and/or genitals (and in Josh’s instance one of the incidents involved a 4 year old) is not be considered high jinks. That is one of the definitions of sexual molestation. It should absolutely be clarified that this is NOT considered rape. The definition of rape is when forceable intercourse occurs.

        • Fritz the. At

          What? Minors can rape can’t they? A14 year old is sexually active and can father a child. Your he was a minor argument makes no sense, he would be arrested for rape if he did that wouldn’t he?

          • Yolie

            Josh did not rape or penetrate any of the girls. What your inferring is not what happened and paints a picture of falsehood.

          • Fritz the. At

            He molested these young children. You believe a pedophile is not a pedophile unless he rapes a little child? Wow. Do research please on molestation.

          • She Codes

            I’m gathering that Yolie is probably an adult male catfish with a sexual attraction to minors. (also edited: I think that he has more than one account, but not the same person as jane)

          • Addie2U

            He definitely fondled these girls, but there’s not 1 shred evidence that he “raped” them. Just as the POS Cosby was sexually inappropriate with MANY women, he also raped countless others.

      • Fritz the. At

        If a 14 year molests a 5 year old, he is a pedophile, if a 14 year old rapes a woman he is a rapist.

    • commonsense12

      There are no devils or angels here. Pedophilia, child molestation, is a universal sickness and crime of humanity. It knows no one group; straight, gay, religious, atheist, secular, married, male or female–and it knows no one group who doesn’t try to cover it up or pretend it doesn’t exist in THEIR group. It is certainly too serious to misuse for political hay.

    • Addie2U

      What Josh did was definitely wrong, but I don’t think it’s fair to call him a “pedophile”. He was 14yrs old at the time & from countless articles + the police report (more than once) it appears the victims (sisters & a friend) were approximately 3-4 years younger than him when this occurred. Also there was no mention of penetration of any kind.

      • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

        According to the reports I’ve read. Some of the girls were as young as 4 & 5 years old at the time.

      • Yolie

        What happened was wrong and in no way do I condone the behavior but it sounds like Josh was going through adolescent sexual exploration.

        • Addie2U

          Not surprisingly many people don’t want to admit they 1st learn about sexuality at home! That’s where many learn “good touch / bad touch” & unfortunately many siblings wrongly / inappropriately touch each other or friends. Like you I’m certainly NOT condoning what he did but people are crying from the rooftops that he’s a pedophile & needs to be in prison YESTERDAY + his children should be removed from the home. I really don’t want minimize this but as I wrote above there was NEVER penetration of any sort mentioned in the police report — only “inappropriate touching outside of clothes” + 1 girl’s “bare buttocks” was touched.

          • WestCoastFeed

            It’s the repetition of the activity and the fact that the girls were asleep when he accosted them that puts it beyond normal sexual exploration. The kid was a creep.

          • Addie2U

            I agree – definitely a creep. He clearly knew it was wrong otherwise he wouldn’t have waited until they were sleeping.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Don’t know if there is truth behind it but some have said Josh either attempted to penetrate the young girls with his fingers or that he actually did. I don’t know who said it & I don’t necessarily believe it as fact but if that did happen it goes way beyond any adolescent sexual exploration

          • Yolie

            From reading the police report, no penetration occurred in any of the incidents.

          • WestCoastFeed

            That does NOT make it okay.

          • Yolie

            Personally, I feel the situation is being blown out of proportion by an unnamed “exposer” out to get the Duggars.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Thank you. I read that also but then saw something else that made me question it. As I stated above I didn’t believe it was true & that I was certainly hoping that it was actually an inaccurate, false report.

          • Addie2U

            100% agree – if he did in fact do that it’s WAY beyond teen sexual exploration. Unfortunately many are stating / writing things that never occurred. I think’s that what’s bothering me the most – for so MANY this is the best thing since sliced bread & they’re making up many things that aren’t only harmful to Josh (possibly the reformed predator) but MAINLY his victims. This is nothing to rejoice about. This is sad all around. God forbid someone did something as a young teen, did everything within their power to repent / change & it still came back & destroyed not only their lives but that of their family. As I wrote earlier, if this is the “new world” why should anyone try to alter bad behavior. Close ALL the rehabs, physiatrist / therapists / counselor offices. Let’s just build massive prisons to hold everyone whose ever f’d up (because they’ll never change).

          • Addie2U

            It appears lots of people are getting kicks (or their rocks off) putting out whatever’s in their own sick imaginations. There’s a poster here (who I’ve never seen prior to tonight) who’s saying he/she read Josh’s confession where he said he was sexually excited by changing his sibling diapers (which the parent’s forced him to change anyway)!! I asked for the link – we’ll see if I get it. 😉 What Josh did was bad enough, I don’t understand people’s sick desire to make it worse! Sadly it’s the victims that are getting further victimized by this crap.

          • Yolie

            I agree with you wholeheartedly, touching inappropriately is very common among adolescents (friends and family), that does not make them pedophiles or sexual predators.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Not with sisters and not without their consent.

          • Fritz the. At

            West, I can’t believe people are defending this monster.

          • WestCoastFeed

            And are trying to deflect by blaming others for uncovering it. But I don’t think he’s a lifelong sex offender. Just a lifelong prick like his father.

          • Addie2U

            You’re 2nd & 3rd sentences – now that I will wholeheartedly agree with.☺

          • Fritz the. At

            The police report is so tainted. You know the officer involved was arrested on child porn charges right? The whole thing is one filthy cover up

          • Addie2U

            Yeah, I read that & that alone was pretty disgusting. Fortunately the parent’s had enough commonsense to know this was NOT okay & secured treatment for the girls & placed Josh outside the home.

          • She Codes

            They placed him ‘outside the home’ for three months to hang shingles on a roof. Then they brought him back under the same roof to live with his victims, who then had to cook for and clean up after him. The ‘treatement’ for the girls? A 10 day retreat where they fast and pray for the strength to ‘submit joyfully to God’, and to reflect on how they could have contributed to their own molestation.

          • Addie2U

            Well it came out long enough to do it’s damage & now it’s going to be destroyed (along with all other documents). The 1 “Jane Doe” who is not a sister petitioned the court as she’s petrified an un-redacted copy will appear! A bit too late for the other girls, but I guess “lucky” her!

            The letter the church sent to “Oprah” is also widely available & it’s interesting how not only did he alert Oprah but why is he so concerned with all the “gifts they were receiving”??

            This whole thing is disgusting. I need a shower.

          • She Codes

            Sexual abuse is not an okay way to ‘learn about sex’ at home. Are you diddling your kids/have you done this to your siblings?

          • Addie2U

            I have worked with young children & adults for years in intense therapeutic environment (in several states) & I can tell you sadly, it’s much more common than most would imagine. And no, I’ve never “diddled my kids” or “done this to my siblings”.

          • She Codes

            If you think that minimizing sexual abuse (and saying ‘not to minimize BUT’ IS A HUGE RED FLAG) is okay, then I urge you to get out of whatever line of work that you’re doing in that ‘intense therapeutic environment’. You sound desensitized.

        • Fritz the. At

          By molesting little girls in their sleep? If he raped a woman would you consider that sexual exploration?

      • Fritz the. At

        Of course he is a pedophile. At 14 he was mature enough to ejaculate and father a child. He molested very little girls, probably more,than we knoemwhilemthey were sleeping. You don’t have to be an old man to be a pedophile. 14’year olds can rape and they can molest. He is a monster and so are his parents.

        • Addie2U

          In NO way am I condoning his behavior but most 14yr old boys are quite immature & there was no mention in the police report of “ejaculation” or “penetration” for that matter. Re “he molested very little girls” – the girls were between the ages of 10 & 13. Little yes, but these were not his little, little sisters. Fortunately the girls were old enough to use their words to tell the police & therapists what happened. Each of the girls also knew good vs. bad touching = anywhere between their necks & feet.

          Most perpetrators (or their parents) don’t turn themselves in for a crime that has never been reported by a victim. Curious, if your son came to you at 14 & said I inappropriately touched my sister(s) while they were sleeping on the outside of their clothes (& your daughter(s) confirmed this) —

          ♦ Would you promptly contact the authorities?

          ♦ After the cop told you “it’s not a big deal”, would you think he doesn’t know what he’s talking about & then place your son outside the home for treatment for 4 months while also securing therapy for your daughter(s)?

          ♦ When he came home would you then invest the next several years ensuring he continued his treatment?

          ♦ Or would you lop off his penis & be write him off forever?

          The “monsters” are people who continue to deny their offenses – for self-righteous hypocrites like Cosby who refuse to admit to 40+ years of sexual violations & rape. If the adults in the lives of these predators had stepped in when they were young boys & contacted the authorities / placed them in treatment without a doubt we would have less emotionally tortured souls walking among us & history may’ve been rewritten.

          I certainly don’t agree with all the Duggar’s beliefs & tactics BUT I don’t believe they should be unmercifully chastised for this. Sure they’ve said some intolerant things but why fight back with MORE intolerance? It makes you no better than what you’re fighting against! Plus if no one is ever able to redeem themselves, why bother trying?

          • Becky

            A girl aged 10 is prepubescent. No one but a pedophile would be sexually attracted to a prepubescent girl. There is no excuse for this. In March 2003, when the majority of the molestation took place Josh was 15, not 14. This is not normal adolescent sexual exploration. A 15 yr old is old enough to know that that type of behavior is not only wrong, but criminal.

      • She Codes

        Have you read his confession? The ones where he says that the little ones were ‘immodest’ because they walked around with just a towel on after taking a bath? And blaming his parents for having him change diapers? PEDOPHILE. IT IS A THING with juveniles.

        • Addie2U

          I have definitely not read that confession & I’m very curious where you found it. If that is in fact the case it clearly changes things dramatically. Now 3 days into this story, the Internet is teeming with false information — unfortunately at the expense of the victims! I imagine being a person of integrity, you’d have no problem telling others were to find this confession. Thanks.

          • She Codes

            Go to the Gawker website and read up on the treatment plan, and read the excerpts. Additionally, a church whistleblower named “Alice” gave a FULL accounting of this family’s immorality in 2007 on the internet, including the molestation, the coverup, and their financial scheming. She was not believed. It’s still up. Google ohnotheydidn’t Live Journal It’s up to you whether you want to believe it or not.

    • roxie

      thank you for this, that’s exactly what I was thinking today, especially when I saw the disgusting statements from this pedo, his parents, n his wife, acting like this kind of sickness is something he “grew out of.” and someone married this freak knowing about this?! i would’ve ran for the hills-she’s got a screw loose too!

  • Fritz the. At

    What makes this worse is gay hating evangelicals like mike huckabee are defending this pedophile. Unbelievable.

    • cheryl

      Mike Huckabee does not hate gays..he believes in marriage between a man and woman. Many believe in that. It does make them gay haters. Not all evangelicals are gay haters. They have religious beliefs about marriage. It does not mean they hate. you are sterotyping unfairly.

      • Yolie

        Thank you for articulating what I’ve been saying for years. Many are quick to classify people who believe marriage is between a man and woman as anti-gay. The label is unfair and used to force an agenda.

      • Fritz the. At

        He and the diggers are in record stating that gays are a threat to children. Look it up. Seems like the dugger family is a threat to children.

  • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

    What a bunch of hypocritical, lying motherphuckers who hide behind their religion!

    If you read the report, even though the names are blocked out you can still see that it says some of the minor children/victims reside with their parents Michelle & Jim-Bob. That means some of his victims were his sisters, his very young sisters. They allegedly got help for Josh by sending him away for some BS religious counseling, what the phuck kind of help did they get for the girls?

    This makes me absolutely livid!
    TLC needs to get these phuckers off of my TV NOW!

    • Addie2U

      The report states the girls also received therapy. What pisses me off is whoever “leaked” this info could care less about the young innocent victims (sisters & a friend)! Sure the names were redacted BUT NOT the parent’s names!! It doesn’t take rocket scientist to put 2 & 2 together. Also Josh was 14yrs old when this happened – “inappropriately touched outside their clothes while they were sleeping” & at least on 1 occasion “touched 1 girls bare buttocks” (with no mention of “penetration” in any form or manner). What happened to children’s records being sealed???

      • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

        My understanding of it all is that this actually came to light in 2006 when the Duggars were scheduled to appear on Oprah Winfrey. Someone emailed Oprah warning her of this incident &the subsequent cover-up by the Duggars & Oprah’s people were the ones who contacted authorities.

        • Addie2U

          It appears it happened when he was 14yrs old & after telling his parents they contacted the authorities (a state trooper if I recall correctly) who didn’t think it was a big deal. The Duggar’s DID think it was a BIG deal & they made arrangements for him to leave the house for 4 months for Christian counseling (which included manual labor). Upon his return home he continued counseling for years (as did the girls).

          During this family crisis the parent’s confided in a friend who took it upon themselves to write down what they had said & placed it into a book which they then forgot about. Some time later it was found & reported to Oprah. The actual letter is available online. Reading the letter (written to Oprah) it appears the person who found the letter really had it out for them. It also appears that the Duggar’s know who this person is but refuse to out them!

          • Yolie

            Thank you for posting the true facts in the case.

          • Addie2U

            The Duggar’s angered countless people with their beliefs & many of those people want them destroyed. Why? Because their adversaries don’t believe what they believe. Pretty ironic, huh? Nothing like fighting intolerance, bigotry, & hatred with tenfold intolerance, bigotry & hatred. 😉

          • Yolie

            Excellent post. There is a war being waged against Christianity and the hate scares me. It is pretty hard to turn on the tv or open a newspaper without hearing about LGBT and see them lamenting on how horribly they are persecuted. With gay marriage, abortion and atheists removing God from every aspect of the government, it’s pretty obvious Christianity is under attack. And dare you for speaking out about it.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Hey, the constitution protects the rest of us from Christians like you.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            My problem isn’t with God or Christianity or even having morals. My problem is that you seem to need me to believe in “your interpretation” of your God & what your specific beliefs are in your God only.
            While I believe you have every right to believe in your God, where I draw the line is when you tell me i’m damned & destined to go to hell because I don’t hold your same beliefs. But that’s jmho.

          • Addie2U

            I feel exactly as you do – other’s trying to force people into believing their “interpretation of your God & what your specific beliefs” should be. And I also the draw the line where no one has the right to damn / predestine anyone to hell because they don’t hold the same beliefs. I have no hatred for anyone, only love (& empathy) but I despise cruelty & hypocrisy (i.e. the hypocrisy of religious zealots preaching love / compassion / tolerance for all while damning those who don’t believe is no different than members of the LBGT community damming religious zealots for refusing to tolerate / accept their beliefs).

            It’s ridiculously ironic that they’re on opposite ends of the spectrum but they want the same thing – for everyone to believe what they believe! Having boundaries limitations on love / compassion & tolerance equates to someone saying I love my fellow man (as long as they look, act & believe exactly as I do). If I refuse to tolerate others, who the hell am I to demand others tolerate me?

          • Fritz the. At

            Please tell me how gays are responsible for this pedophile getting away with molesting countless little girls? How in the world can you blame gays? Like the diggers who participate in organizations that preach gays hurting children when they are the ones hurting children,

          • Yolie

            I am in no way condoning what happened. I do feel Josh is being railroading for something that happened when he was just a child and still learning about his sexuality. Labeling him a pedophile is unfair. He’s not a pedophile because you or anyone says so. Also, I am not blaming the gays for Josh’s actions. I merely posted a war is being waged against Christianity which is true.

          • Fritz the. At

            A child? 14 and 15 year olds are charged with rape all the time. He was molesting children, weaker, smaller innocents. He is not just a pedophile, he is an insectuas pedophile. Defending him because he is a fake Christian is mind boggling. If he were a gay 14 year old, dugger would be all over him as gays hurting children. He and his filthy family belong in jail.

          • Fritz the. At

            Their beliefs happen to be that pedophilia is not a big deal when it comes to,protecting their brand. They use religion as a mask against their sins.

          • Becky

            I am a Christian myself, and a previous supporter of the Duggars. But not anymore. IMO, this was not handled aggressively enough. Interestingly, the Duggar’s show didn’t start until I think 2004. If this had been my family, I would have never done a reality show given the recent situation. I would’ve wanted all my attention focused on preventing anything like this from ever happening again, and healing my family.

          • Peace

            Well said

          • Addie2U

            I completely agree but I will still support the victims. On & off I’ve viewed those poor girls for years thinking they’re victims of circumstance. The fact that it was this bad, is heartbreaking.

          • Fritz the. At

            The duggers preach that homosexuality harms children. The only people harming children here are the duggers.

          • Addie2U

            Yes they do & they’re severely uninformed on this topic. So let’s continue to throw the entire family under the bus. To hell with the daughter’s – they never had any rights anyway. They’re all being trained to be good little homemakers, completely subservient to their current & future husbands. They’re good for nothing but pushing out babies & servicing their husbands. Hell, they’re not even allowed to wear pants. Why change what’s working for them. Even if they were given the chance to make their own choices, I’m sure they’d be lost. Come to think of it – whoever put out the police report identifying them as their brother’s victims did them a favor – we wouldn’t want them to get too cocky & think they had any control over their lives. Plus serves them all right for being born into that family

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            I do not, would not & can not believe a word that comes out of the Duggars mouths what-so-ever. I believe in the freedom of information act which is where I got my information.

          • Jennymckitty

            If this person contacted Oprah, I have to wonder if they also contacted the authorities and TLC.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            It was Oprah’s people who contacted authorities. That day. The family was told there wsan’t going to be a show & they were sent home.

          • Jennymckitty

            If I found a book with that letter, I would have called the city, county and state police first. Oprah wouldn’t be the first person I would have told.

          • Addie2U

            You would think, wouldn’t you?! That’s why I believe someone was on a mission, come hell or high water they wanted this family destroyed → publically!! And to hell with the innocent young girls, they were just collateral in their plan.

          • Jennymckitty

            To me, it sounds like the victims were let down by a slew of adults who cared more about protecting their own agendas.

          • Yolie

            It would not surprise me if it was someone from the LGBT fraction. They have been out to get the Duggars for their religious beliefs for many years.

          • Fritz the. At

            So gays are at fault? If I found out I would have reported them and made so much noise hopefully they would have been stopped from popping out kids for reality TV. And I am not gay.

          • Yolie

            Sound like the “exposer” had a vendetta against the Duggars.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Or she was outraged by the behavior.

          • Yolie

            Perhaps but this sounds personal.

          • Becky

            Yes, this family friend trooper is now in prison for 56 hrs on a child pornography charge. So just because he thought it wasn’t a big deal doesn’t mean it wasn’t. He was engaged in criminal activities himself.

          • Addie2U

            The entire thing is disgusting. I feel horrible for the poor girls.

          • Fritz the. At

            The state trooper who didn’t think it was a big deal,is serving 60 years on child porn charges. Filth begets filth.

      • Yolie

        Josh and the other minors involved should have had their identities protected. Whoever leaked this to Oprah should be brought up on charges.

        • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

          How about Josh, Michelle, Jim-Bob & the authorities in charge who did nothing. Shouldn’t they be brought up on charges? Or only the whistleblower should be?

          • Yolie

            From what I read, his parents notified the church and Josh received spiritual therapy.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I read the Michelle admitted that there was no counsellor when he was sent to do the hard labor in the construction business.

          • Yolie

            I understood it was a boot camp type of therapy.

          • Imstillstanding666

            They did do something!!! Sorry you don’t agree with it!!
            Sorry, just think country’s going to hell bEcause we’ve lost our moral code

          • Jennymckitty

            It sounds like there were plenty of adults who knew what went on. Jim-Bob, Michelle, ministers, other victim’s parents, family friend. And the first police report wasn’t until 2006? That is unbelievable.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Ita Jenny & I think it’s one of the reasons I’m feeling a little froggy by some of posts here trying to paint this in in a different light.
            They seem to be pissed at the whistleblower saying that he’s the one who’s harming the kids that were molested & that InTouch outing the report under the Freedom of Information Act is damaging them?
            What about having to live with your creepy, touchy, feely brother when he comes back home after doing his ‘religious’ counseling & repentant “manual labor”?
            SMDH!

          • Sad that all those adults had knowledge of the incidents but no one stepped up until then.

        • Fritz the. At

          The molester wasn’t arrested buy you want the leaker to be arrested? Wow wow wow

          • WestCoastFeed

            This reminds me of the Tre Huggers who insist that every negative story about Teresa comes from Jac Laurita. Same method for trying to discredit a story via deflection.

          • I remember that also.

      • Fritz the. At

        You are angrier at the leaker than you are at the molester? Wow. Maybe now the authorities will step in and get the help these kids need.

        • Addie2U

          No, I’m also angry at “the molester’s” actions & to be honest the times I’ve seen the show Josh (& the father) were definitely not my favorites (as I viewed both of them to be extremely arrogant). My 1st priority is ALWAYS the victims & if it wasn’t so easy to identify them – I possibly would be angrier. Thank God they were not penetrated (even though many are taking that false info & running wild with it). If that was the case my reaction / opinion would be 100% repulsion & I’d wholeheartedly agree with many of your comments.

          I’m just floored at the number commenters (& sites) that are writing seriously flawed information. Also the absolute elation is mindboggling. You’d think people won the lottery or were told they will live a long & prosperous life after believing they only had a few weeks to live. I wouldn’t be surprised if parades are being planned with banners reading “Josh molested his sisters, let us all rejoice”! All over social media it appears those who’ve been screaming the loudest re tolerance for all are the most intolerant of the bunch (& too bad, so sad for the victims but they served their purpose 2 fold now)!

          Totally remove the Duggar’s controversial comments from the equation (which I so happen to disagree with, but hell, that’s their prerogative). Them not approving gay marriage / transgendered people using ladies rooms & them removing LGBT’s kissing from their Facebook page (which again is TOTALLY their prerogative as I’m sure countless others would do the same) → & you’ve got a case of a STUPID, arrogant 14yr old boy who TRULY effed up & was fortunately caught & felt guilty enough to tell his parents. Josh & the girls told their parent’s who / what Josh is & they believed him & whether people agree with their form of treatment or not is totally irrelevant. Bottom line they did something about it.

          People are already figuring out which sisters were touched & reporting it which is disgusting. But that doesn’t matter, as long as the Duggar’s are gone for good. It’s about time we get freedom & liberty for ALL (but don’t dare disagree or someone will spend every minute of their waking hours digging up info re our pasts). (>‿◠)✌

    • Imstillstanding666

      Yes they should have been off the air while this horrific crises was happening, I can’t fault them with sending him for help in the way their religion guided them. Many people don’t believe in psychiatry as you obviously don’t believe in religious counseling.

      • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

        From what I have seen with my own two eyes Im. No I don’t believe in religious counseling. My point in case, (* I am speaking of my own religion so…). Just the fact that all those pedophile priests were allegedly counseled by the church & for 1000’s & 1000’s of years all it ever was was one big cover-up, after another. Never stopped the children from being harmed by these pedophiles, never prosecuted these pedophiles. Never removed these known pedophies from being around children. I could go on & on
        When it comes to religious organizations, they protect their own. They protect their name, their status, their egos & especially their money. i see what Josh did as predatory behavior involving sex. That frightens me greatly. I don’t feel that any counseling he received was adequate if it was based in religious diatribes & manual labor.

        • She Codes

          I come from several generations of pastors and I agree with you. I have seen too many abuses get swept under the rug. Thank God my parents didn’t do that but many of their fellow pastors did — and some were the abusers themselves.

    • Fritz the. At

      Go tiger.

  • I never watched this show, but TLC is giving me plenty of good reason never to watch their NETWORK ever. This is so disgusting on so many different levels. The fact that they have hired two different families with molestation pasts ends all legitimacy for their network, if it ever had it in the first place.

    • Jennymckitty

      I love The Little Couple. It is probably the only show I watch on that network. I can’t think of anything else.

      • Yolie

        I like The Duggars and The Little Couple.

      • Me neither. I’m just trying to see how these government agencies, the FCC or similar agencies, don’t have these production companies and networks doing background checks on their talent before and even after they hire them. This is getting to be just too much.

      • Livie1

        Jenny below I was talking too about The Little Couple. A great show. Also recently watched my first episode of My 600 Pound Life, which was interesting and for me, informative. Say Yes to the Dress I like sometimes. But TLC has this Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde thing going on with other shows they have, imo. The fringe crap like the 19 kids and the sister wives ick.

        PS I changed my name cause the other one was too freaking long!! lol!

        • Jennymckitty

          Like the new name, Live. I’ve not watched 600 lb life. I used to watch Sister Wives. I never watched Honey Boo Boo unless you count the clips shown on The Soup which was more than enough for me.

          • Livie1

            Jenny they had a marathon of Little Couple on yesterday and since I was home for holiday I watched several episodes of that (getting ready to go pickup Zoey from India) then My 600 Pound Life was either before or after these.

            My 600 pound Life was interesting. I wouldn’t watch all the time, this one I saw followed a woman through a period of time. So a complete story contained within the show’s time slot.

            IMO, Sister Wives would have been better as a one-time show. Look at the lifestyle and then…next. The Brown’s children also, like the Duggars, were subjected to some strange stuff portrayed by the families as being ‘normal.’ Again my opinion, but I too stopped watching that show unless I happened upon it and, well whatever my excuse was – lol.

            Oh The Soup, I love me some Joel, they are always SPOT ON in their snark!!!

    • She Codes

      Somewhere I think it’s on Daily Mail, there is a list of six other shows that have a molestation or sexual abuse scandal on TLC shows.

      • I can definitely see that and it’s so disheartening to know children are going through this. On top of that, you have money hungry power networks exploiting these people. It leaves just a horrible taste in my mouth.

        • She Codes

          I’m already looking for ways to block TLC from playing in my home. So far all I can do is block their shows one by one using parental controls, but not the entire network.

          • Really? On my television, you can block whole channels after a certain time. I once couldn’t stand Comedy Central, and since I couldn’t block the channel from 12:00 am – 12:00 pm, I blocked it from 12:00 am – 11:59.

          • She Codes

            Yes I think husband is doing something similar right now!

  • Just a jersey girl

    Okay I am looking at this from all angels I agree they were minors at the time, ehat bothers me is the family was protecting their religion not the victims, and not getting the right counseling for their son. Their religion sets women’s right back to the 1800’s

    I am glad they cancelled

    • She Codes

      They didn’t get the right counseling for their daughters either. Getting sent to camp to fast and pray and to learn to ‘submit joyfully’ and to reflect on how you contributed to your own molestation is child abuse.

    • Addie2U

      Unless you’re 100% committed to recovery: Want to score better drugs — enter a drug rehab. Upon your release guaranteed you’ll get the best drugs. Want to continue with dysfunctional sexual proclivities – enter a sex rehab – where upon your release, you’ll learn the tricks of the
      trade. The kid got treatment – 4 months away from home (which included manual labor) + several years of in home treatment. I may think someone’s dr. is a quack, whereas they may adore him/her. 😉

  • commonsense12

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    The First Amendment was to protect religions and the free expression of religion, but there would be no one totalitarian religious group in control–which also meant no secular or royal control–no king or queen to rule over us–begone King of England. Before the War of Independence, and the enactment of the Constitution, The Church of England ruled the British colonies in which, as an example, you could be fined and your name published publicly, if you didn’t go to church and pay your tithe. Other Protestants, and especially Catholics, were severely discriminated against in all works of life. The same in the Pilgrim colonies–discrimination against anyone not Pilgrim. So, the First Amendment was to give freedom of religion to all, and the practice thereof, and the Church of England in the now states and the Pilgrim run states would no longer be the established church. Since Islamic Sharia Law is a no choice, totalitarian Law forced on all (a violent, kill all gays, all Christians, and those of other faiths, women who disobey, girls who refuse to be married to older men, ‘honor’ killings enacted by fathers and brothers, women blamed for being raped, et al, this would be found under “shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”.

    I have never watched this show. I don’t know them at all or what they do or say on the show–just that they have the American freedom to do so. It’s just another ‘reality’ show–one of far too many. Some seem to be putting such power in this family and their chosen sect. There are so many sects and then offshoots. To each their own. They are free to speak, free to express their beliefs and free to vote as they feel. They, like those who disagree, have a right to campaign for their beliefs, if that is what they are doing, which others are so angry about and want to stop. No one has a right to censor or stop anyone–whether straight, gay, religious, secular. But the bigotry against their right to believe and practice (the crime of molestation has nothing to do with their religion just as gays can’t be blamed for gay pedophiles) shows it’s blind and ignorant hatred when it is compared to Sharia Law. You want an abortion or birth control, there are so many places to go without demanding to force a group to sell their soul for that birth control or abortion. That is religious hatred–practiced religious bigotry–and it is evil. And it is un American.

    • She Codes

      When females are brainwashed FROM BIRTH to believe that they are inferior, subservient, shielded from education – and raised to be BREEDERS at the complete mercy of men, then the most American thing in the world is to SPEAK UP, expose them, censure them and call it what it is, A CULT.

      • Yolie

        Natural law dictates that men are the leaders in society that’s why submissive wives are a lot happier than bitter feminist. No offense to feminist.

        • WestCoastFeed

          That’s claptrap.

          • MidwestMiddie

            X100

        • She Codes

          I’m a happily married woman, but I would rather be a bitter feminist than the child of a ‘natural leader’ who allows my brother to play ‘tickle the vagina’ with me and my sisters, while my breeder mother pops out babies for me to feed and care for all day.

          • commonsense12

            Being a bitter feminist or practicing hatred for those whose opinions differ from yours covers up discovering the truth of the epidemic of child sexual, mental and physical abuse–by women as well as men–that is universal and infects every group that exists. It knows no one group and the victims can’t be helped and protected if one limits their scope which is a form of condoning and abetting child abuse that so exists in such epidemic proportions.

          • commonsense12

            Bitter feminists are not excluded from having sex offenders, child abusers, pedophiles within their ranks. No Group is excluded no group can be self-righteous. All childrens’ lives count but children will continue to suffer and victims will not have a chance to overcome if they become secondary and misused to promote a political agenda or spew personal hatreds.

          • Fritz the. At

            Ha. Good one.

        • TartLemon

          ROFL. “Natural Law”….. Written by MAN.

          • She Codes

            Looks like these “natural leaders” did an excellent job phucking up the world.

          • Yolie

            Natural law created by man is not such a bad thing. I personally feel, things started going bad in this country with the Feminist Movement.

          • itsjustme

            It is because of the ‘Feminist Movement” that YOU AS A WOMAN have the rights in our society that you currently have. Do you enjoy having the right to vote? To drive? to have your own bank account? If so, you can thank the feminists of yesteryear that make all of that possible for you!

          • Sophia Z.

            Really? I have an advanced degree and some great working experience. I can tell you without a doubt that men get paid more than I do with less than my credentials for less quality work. How fair is that?

          • Yolie

            Man as in God. God created and dictates natural law.

        • commonsense12

          Natural law means survival of the species, all species, and it is the very foundation of the existence of life. It was not written by man. Without it, we would be extinct. When natural law fails, a species does become extinct. I would think understanding natural law means is something all, religious and secular, could come to agreement with.

        • jane

          I am not a feminist by any means but I do find this statment very offensive. A blanket statement that submissive wives are alot happier than a bitter feminist? Really??? Where are the stats to back up THAT statement? Have you done any real studies or research on how women in the past before the feminist movement REALLY felt about being treated like second class citizens?? Have you spoken to the women of The Greatest Generation who ran this country while the men went to war and asked them how they really felt when the war was over and the men came back home?
          Thank goodness for feminists who were NOT submissive. Because of them you have the right to vote, you also have the right to speak your mind freely if you wish to do so. It was not so long ago a woman could not.

        • itsjustme

          There are MANY in the animal kingdom where the females run society. Natural Law has NOTHING to do with molestation of others. To make it sound like all of nature is run in patriarchal societies is JUST IDIOTIC! just as those who live by patriarchal societies by choice are idiots.

      • commonsense12

        Raised to be breeders? Breeders is a hate term. You seem to have a hate problem with men and judge everything from that hate and that is blinding your path. Some of the very people whose agenda is spewing hatred against what they call ‘breeders’ are now using artificial means to have children instead of adopting. Hypocrisy.

        Man and woman coming together and creating a child is nature’s law, not man’s law. If they want to have several, that is their business. Nature’s law is why we exist–it is the very foundation of our existence. Without nature’s law, we would be extinct.

        • She Codes

          They are absolutely raised to be breeders, exactly like a puppy mill. And get the F out of here about my hating “men”. What I hate are people like you who foist oppressive beliefs on others, especially women, people of color, and the list goes on. Most REAL men are nothing like you.

        • Sophia Z.

          LMAO, I used to live in a gay neighborhood and when I would walk down the street holding my boyfriend’s hand, mostly men would yell out at us and call us “breeders”.
          Actually, I disagree with you. When people have 19 children, that is called breeding. It’s my business because this planet is overpopulated. How many grandchildren will these 19 kids produce as adults? What’s the carbon footprint on that? Countless.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Just so those fundamentalist religions don’t try to force their beliefs on me.

      • cheryl

        No..wouldn’t want anything forced on me either..like obamacare

        • WestCoastFeed

          I am a poor victim of Medicare forced on me by Lyndon Johnson.

    • TartLemon

      The abused/molested children have the same rights to justice, too. Being small or young without the ability to comprehend what is happening to them is WRONG to assume they have not the same rights of Constitutional protection.

      • commonsense12

        Of course. Where has it been said they have no rights? Child abuse, sexual, mental and physical is on the rise–in every segment of our society. It knows no one group nor does cover-up and throwing it under the rug, including the UN, government agencies and the public school system. It is a crime and tragedy of humanity and it is too complicated and too serious to turn it into political hay and misusing the victims to promote a political agenda against a group–any group. And that appears to be what is happening.

  • Goo Goo G’Joob

    Reading over the comments has been quite interesting. I see most are at odds about whether this was just adolescent high jinks or was it absolute molestation? Since I’ve had the experience of both, I feel obligated to voice my opinion as to what went on.

    When I was not quite four, I was grabbed by a 16-year who then proceeded to rub his penis over my arms and face. My attacker was known to me and was a relative. I yelled and screamed until he was caught. This was in the late 60s which was still the dark ages and as I lived in a small community, it got hushed up, especially since there was the family connection.

    When I was a preteen and teenager, sometimes we had a round of spin the bottle at a party and would get a kiss and a grope when the bottle landed on us. But we were all laughing and having a good time, willingly participating in the activity, without the action going any further.

    I think from my experiences, it’s clear that high jinks happen with willing participants while molestation is one aggressor and one unwilling victim. There is no indication from the media reports that any of the girls involved ever consented for him to touch them as he supposedly did.

    Now before someone misunderstands what I’m trying to convey here and attempts to jump down my throat for saying he’s a pedophile, let me be clear that I am not stating he is or isn’t, I am not a licensed, practicing Psychiatrist or Criminal Psychologist nor have there been any mental evaluations conducted to ascertain that he is or isn’t a pedophile. I’d rather watch this unfold than spend all my time missing major details simply because my mind was not open to all the possibilities of what the actual reality is.

    • Harleygirl0685

      I commend you for sharing your story, I’m sure that was not an easy thing to do.

    • Juliana

      One doesn’t need a degree to know what is a good touch or a bad touch. At the age of 4 you weren’t given a choice and you were a victim. Spin the bottle as a teenager is a choice and you all had fun while doing it. What Josh did wasn’t playing doctor, what he did was molest children who weren’t willing participants.

      I clearly remember at 5 years old me and a little boy same age did the I’ll show you mine if you show me your’s, no touching involved. I would consider it to be self discovery that we both had different equipment and it was very innocent and no one was hurt or shamed over it. You can’t say the same when one is 14 or 15 years old and the other is 4 or 5 years old, that’s crossing the line.

    • itsjustme

      Adolescent “hijinks” would be a teenage boy fooling around with his gf/bf. What Josh did was MOLESTING 5 GIRLS. SOME OF WHO WERE HIS OWN SISTERS! He is a predator and his parents enabled his behavior by not removing him from the home. His poor sisters had to LIVE IN FEAR of it happening AGAIN AND AGAIN! How dare TLC drag their feet on CANCELLING this damn famly and destroying ANYTHING that remotely refers to this family! Destroy all dvd’s, books, anything that has the Duggar name attached! THEY NEED TO CRAWL BACK UNDER THE ROCK THEY CAME FROM!

  • Gabby

    The LGBT community will harm children, right? Gay marriage is sinful, correct? Gay couples are morally corrupt, true? ALL of this unnecessary and evil lambasting of the LGBT community and it comes out that HE molested several people. Not just anyone, which is bad enough, but his own sisters.

    In my opinion, his brothers need to be questioned as well because why would Josh just STOP at his sisters? Furthermore, I see a lot of emphasis on the fact that he was 14 years old when it happened…I wonder if he has molested anyone as an adult? Bet he didn’t stop. They usually don’t. I do not think this was just boisterous fun and I believe him to be a threat to society. There is no rehabbing a sicko like this. NONE!

    Nobody was a willing participant in any of this and imo, he molested them! The entire family is cult-like and have always given me the creeps.

    • Harleygirl0685

      Creeps is an understatement!

      • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily *·.¸¸.·*¨·.¸¸.·*

        Hi Honey! Haven’t seen you post in a long while & was concerned. Hope all is well with you & your family. Big hugs to you girl! Miss you!

    • Fritz the. At

      Agree 100%. Pedophiles don’t stop without years and years of work. Even then, most continue. This guy skated, got away with it, used religion as a shield and now blames gays for hurting children. He is a monster.

      • Gabby

        I am afraid for Josh Duggar’s own children. It makes me sick to think about what he could be doing to them while they are asleep. And his wife is so pathetic!

        • Juliana

          She’s what my grandmother would call a drip!

      • hates criminals

        As much as I hate criminals…. Sounds more like a pubescent curiosity. This kid certainly wouldn’t have access to a playboy magazine.

        • Fritz the. At

          Oh no…. Really? If he raped a woman would that be curiosity? I am stunned at the level of ignorance when it comes to child abuse. He molested 5 little girls that we know of. I would bet there are many more. Most teen boys don’t molest little girls because they are curious. There are thousands of 15 year old boys serving time in prison for sexual crimes, they are charged as adults. Please don’t have kids, please. If you think that molestation is sexual curiosity then no child is safe in your care.

        • hates criminals

          Only details I’ve read are he touched one on her butt. When you have no friends, life and you are raging with hormones only a matter of time. That’s why molestation was so prevalent before travel. Stuck with your family. You know men, anything to get the job done, if you know what I mean. It’s an innate natural instinct. The father failed to get his kid a playboy to help himself learn his natural feelings.

    • Juliana

      Can you possibly entertain the idea that he was also molested? Something that might be just as shameful for him to admit happening. But what he has done isn’t a excuse, just making a fair thought that he may have also been a victim himself. I am disgusted that his crimes were covered up to protect him, and his victim’s had no choice (once again) but to go along with the cover-up. It seems particularly disturbing that none of the victim’s received any help, counseling, therapy either. This was all about covering up for Josh the predator. Victimizing the victim’s making them experience shame for his behavior! Someone really needs to take a good hard look at what’s gone on in that home. He has unlimited access now to his own children and wife standing by his side who should have never married him once she knew. Hide behind religion as if it’s free will against the predator and God’s will that brought them closer because of it. That’s complete horseshit to me. They need to stop using God to allow it to happen and then God’s name to cover it up.

  • Gabby

    The TLC Network has gone straight to hell in a handbasket.

  • karen

    Cop who took report same tear was convicted of child molesting and now serving 60 years in prison. Unbelievable josh should be right there with him. God should never brought up when talking molesting kids. Family is still using religion to hide behind.

    • Fritz the. At

      Thank you Karen, my thoughts exactly. Reading comments that because he didn’t penetrate its not molestation or because he was 14 or 15 it was just sexual hi jinks is just so sad. If a 14 year old raped a woman and they do that, they would be charged as an adult. Molesting little girls is a crime and he is a pedophile. His parents showed their true colors by protecting and covering up his acts at the expense of the children. They should have all minors removed from the house. They are all disgusting pigs

      • bali1228

        Exactly! Phillip Chism was a 14 yo student at Danvers high. He raped and killed his math teacher and has been charged as an adult. Even teenagers can be monsters- look at Craig Price. He killed four woman and girls. First at 13, last at 15.

  • Addie2U

    It appears the victim “Jane Doe” who is not a sister has petitioned the court & the police report & all other documents will NOW be destroyed! “Lucky” her! She’s petrified an non-redacted copy will get out into the public. Too bad the other girls weren’t so “lucky”!
    Also the letter the church member sent to “Oprah” is now available on several sites. Curious, why this person went to Oprah & why was he so concerned re the
    “gifts they were receiving”?

    • She Codes

      Maybe he’s a concerned Christian doing his moral duty.

  • commonsense12

    TLC may have been duped, or knew. I don’t know. But this is a drop in the ocean if you read the history of Hollywood or the movie/entertainment industry, as it is deliberately cunning in covering up for sexual abuses, and criminal behavior, including murders. It is a sleazy history where making money at any cost to human value is the goal. Coverups were the norm–a necessity for the industry that was explosure with all forms of sexual and criminal abuse. Even now Woody Allen is treated like an icon despite a little girl exposing him as having molested her. Even now, Hollywood protects and covers so many who are child molesters, creaors and distributors of child porn–the whole gamut of seedy, sleazy sexual abuse but will attack those who are not part of their money hungry industry. It is called manipulation through red herrings–keep the focus elsewhere, appear to be heroic advocates for the abused while they can continue to practice and cover up their own epidemic of sexual abuse against children, women and men and continue to be child porn distributors. Point is don’t lose the full picture, don’t see just the mottled leaf on one tree, while ignoring the whole infected forest. We can’t change the whole world; heck, the most prolific of child abuse and cover-up is the public school system but it is ignored and protected for monetary reasons. But we can volunteer for local child advocacy groups and if it helps just one child, it is more than we did today.

  • cait

    If anyone made “allegations” against ordinary “Joe Schmoes” like us, ALL our minor children would be removed, asap, while DCF carried out an investigation !

  • WestCoastFeed

    Same sex marriage has won in Ireland. Time to give up, Duggars. If Ireland can change this radically, your movement has no hope of ever succeeding.

    • Yolie

      This is sad and unfortunate. The real agenda behind gay marriage is not marriage equality. Personally, I feel it’s the total unraveling of heterosexual marriage and uprooting traditional values from society. This encompass efforts to silence and punish those that openly adhere to their religious teachings about marriage and sexual morality.

      • Fritz the. At

        Can you post one comment where Jesus said that homosexuality is a sin?

        • Yolie

          The Bible doesn’t speak of homosexuality very often, however, when it does, it condemns it as sin.

          Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”

          Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them.”

          1 Cor. 6:9-10, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

          Rom. 1:26-28, “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.”

          • bali1228

            Right, but did Jesus teach these things? No, these are not his words. These are OLD testament writings sanctioned by Catholic Cardinals I’m sure you despise. They are not the teachings of Jesus you claim to live your life by. Old testament rules no longer apply since the coming of the Messiah. ETA: if the OT is what you base your life on, I hope you avoid shellfish and poly cotton blends…

      • jane

        Where is the irrefutable and completely unbiased proof of what you post that the REAL agenda behind gay marriage is to unravel heterosexual marriage and uproot traditional values from society?? In actuality, the VERY REAL agenda behind gay marriage is about EQUALITY and EQUAL RIGHTS under the law for both heterosexual marriage and gay marriage. Unfortunately, the Extreme Right and the Extreme Left put THEIR own frenzied spin on it for THEIR own agendas.

        Once again, I can turn your words around. A great deal of determined attempts have been made by those who oppose gay marriage which have ALSO encompassed efforts to silence and punish those who openly live their truth as being gay. I won’t even get into the beatings and murders of both straight and gay who fight for the right to live in a world where there is acceptance and equality for the gay community. As for the citizens of Ireland. . .”Dia bless an hEireann le haghaidh a bhfuil eagna mor den sort sin!!” (Translation: God Bless The Irish For Having Such Great Wisdom!!)

        • Yolie

          Those are my beliefs. I’m not trying to persuade anyone here to agree with me and there is nothing you can post that will make me change my convictions.

      • ButterflyArtGuild

        That sounds paranoid and just used to rile people up. Just live and let live. Basing your whole life on the idea only you and what you believe gets you into heaven is really sad. The version of Christianity you are pushing is just sad to me.

        • Yolie

          You should take your own advice, respect my beliefs and let me live. Thank you very much.

      • bali1228

        How does gay marriage do that? Will there be a quota of gay marriages to fill and if not enough of “teh gays” are willing to fill it they’ll make hetero people marry their same sex? Will hetero people be used as breeders to provide children for “teh gays” and not be allowed to have families of their own? Really, I need to know. How will gay marriage affect my marriage? Because so far gay marriage has been legal in my state for a few years and my husband still leaves the seat up and my kids still wake up needing breakfast every morning. Nothing has changed yet, when will it? Because things are getting a bit boring around here and I might want to shake things up a bit.

  • Dani-K

    I want to thank everyone for their comments on this difficult and uncomfortable topic. I really worked hard to make this article straightforward and factual. I’m happy that though the comments are diverse, we have a platform to speak freely and share experiences. I am touched and humbled by the stories you’ve written. Thanks again. DANI

    • Addie2U

      You should be congratulated for writing a concise story re a difficult subject matter without interjecting personal beliefs or condemnation. It was to the point & factual. Since this story broke I’ve read at least a dozen articles re the same story & many are unable to remove themselves from the actual story & instead used it as a platform for vengeance. Great job Dani. 😉

      [Unbelievably there are sites running stories with statements such as “F all the Duggar’s, they’re all hypocrites – if the parent’s didn’t what to press charges the girls should’ve pursued this themselves but instead they sat back & listened / promoted their brother / parent’s preaching anti-LGBT propaganda. Serves them all right. I hope they all rot in hell.”]

    • Sophia Z.

      The article is well written, Dani. Thank you for updating me on a show that I don’t watch but am shocked to read what is going on.

  • Susan dickerman

    I am waiting for someone to mention the children of josh duggar. Is no one the least concerned ?? This man, although a child technically at the time, has 3 children. I havenot read anything about him even receiving counseling in the present. This just does not go away. Besides hiding behind all the bull crap about the gays, what has he done ??? I say get CPS and a full investigation.

    • cait

      I have said, many times, that you and I would have had our minor kids removed, at a moment’s notice, if this was discovered or even suspected !
      I think there was more harm done to those little girls than we will ever know !
      As a parent, you feel heart-sick !

    • Yolie

      Making such presumptions is inappropriate. Do you honestly think Ann Duggar would allow her kids to be harmed and not report it?

      • She Codes

        Why not? Michelle did.

      • Fritz the. At

        She married a pedophile so I put nothing past her.

      • Susan dickerman

        Yes I do. Moron. You act like he hasn’t done it before.

  • cait

    Just watched a Medical Detectives episode, where a scumbag shot a random woman, as he said he’d rather go to prison for murder, than the charge he was on for raping his 3 month old daughter ! This world is full of sickos, and Slosh joins the “club” !

  • Gabby

    When will there be an investigation at Josh Duggar’s home? He has children and they are in danger.

    • Yolie

      This is ugly and deeply saddens me. Clearly you are using your hate for the Duggar family to make malicious and unfounded accusations about Josh Duggar’s home. You do not have the right to do so without posting proof.

      • She Codes

        She doesn’t hate the family. She hates the incest. Isn’t that what you believe?

        • Gabby

          That was just laughable so all I could do was just lmao.

          • Sophia Z.

            Attacking you in that manner is called trolling. I don’t see why that post is allowed to stay on this page. I’m sorry that you experienced that, Gabby.

          • Gabby

            Thank you, Sophia! This Yolie person is trolling everyone. Anyone who says “I support The Duggars,” is clearly looking for attention. Sounds Ann Coulter-ish.

          • Sophia Z.

            Ann Coulter is mild compared to this kind of reasoning (?). Fine if you have a different opinion but to victimize the victims all over again, why not understand the complexities of child molestation in a psychological manner? The trauma of what has happened to them versus having an attitude that boys will be boys which is ok because God says so. And just because there wasn’t ‘penetration’ (w/ penis?) means it’s ok. Are we living in times before The Crusades? pft.

      • Gabby

        LMAO!!!

        • Sophia Z.

          OMG, Gabby. You even get them on here. And I thought Twitter was bad.

          • Gabby

            The trolls are everywhere, Sophia! I can believe it. I thought it to be too pathetic to even entertain.

      • Sophia Z.

        LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TLCville

    HE did it. HE did it to
    more than one girl. HE admitted it. GUILTY.

  • Suglo

    Adolescent hijinks is jacking off to Playboy at night under the sheets. It’s definitely not fondling your little sisters at every turn. But of course the loons from the church of what’s happening now see it that way. They make up this shit as they go along yet have the nerve to quote scripture for what they don’t like. The show needs to be permanently pulled for the sake of the victims if nothing else.

    • She Codes

      His church also should be investigated and lose their non profit status if the statements are true that they knew about this and did not report it to the authorities.