EXCLUSIVE: Teresa Giudice Stiffs Former Attorney & He’s Going After Her Future Earnings

Posted on Apr 9 2015 - 9:30am by BeachSpin

Teresa Joe Giudice

One of the toughest questions that is asked over and over again when banter kicks in about the Joe and Teresa Giudice fraud case is…when and how the ripped off victims can go after the millions of dollars owed to them.

The line is lengthy, and the recouping of losses is long overdue for dozens of businesses, and individuals who were shafted by the Giudices. However, what can be done with Teresa sitting in prison, and Joe headed for the same fate? Perhaps nothing…IF there is no current income being generated. Nevertheless, the release of prison photos of Teresa and her family in Us Weekly, as well as the rumored reality show featuring Joe Giudice and his invisible inmate wife, allegedly in the works with Bravo, changes the collection playing field. These projects HAVE, and possibly will be bringing in cash to the sucked dry bank accounts of Joe and Teresa Guidice.

READ: Teresa Giudice Did Not Rob Banks Only; List of Other Businesses She Stole From

A source tells All About the Tea that Teresa Giudice’s erstwhile attorney, Henry E. Klingeman, is not going to wait around to collect what is his, and is working behind the scenes to attach a $150k claim to the cash being brought into Camp Giudice. Allegedly, the two targets on Mr. Klingeman’s radar are Us Weekly and Bravo, and he’s calling dibs on the cash hauled in by hawking the coveted prison pics, as well as staking his claim on any Bravo TV show in the works, now or post prison. Our exclusive source explains,

“Teresa’s former lawyer, Henry Klingeman, plans to attach a claim to the new Bravo show and Us Magazine prison photo for non-payment of legal fees. Henry worked Teresa’s sentencing deal and when she was given prison time, she got him back by not paying.”

Henry Klingeman was hired in July of 2013, when Teresa was indicted by the feds, and he was by her side while she very publicly navigated the legal process. Teresa was sentenced to federal prison on October 2, and three days later, Mr. Klingeman was history. Supposedly, Teresa was furious that she was landing in prison, and decided to try and pull a whammy by hiring a new lawyer to push for a partial halfway house assignment. By accepting a plea deal, Teresa had waived her right to any appeal process. The RHONJ star allegedly knew that Klingeman would never go along with such a brazen (and denied) request, so he was of no use to Teresa any longer. Predictably, she didn’t pay her bill, leaving him $150k in the hole.

Henry E. Klingeman RHONJ

All About the Tea reached out to Mr. Klingeman for a statement and his response was, “I have no comment on that.”

Fingers crossed that Klingeman can pull this off. He is allegedly owed the money, and deserves to collect….as do dozens of others.

 

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  • twifan2

    Her ’empire’ is starting to crumble.

    • WestCoastFeed

      I would guess that she was paying his fees up until the sentencing. He must have earned thousands more over the course of the case.

      • twifan2

        BUT she doesn’t see that it was because of HER lying to Judge Salas DURING sentencing that got her prison time?! What a psycho loon! :/

  • Guardian

    I so hope this is for real. I also hope others that she owes will see this and do likewise – start with a snowball and end up with an avalanche.

    • twifan2

      I think it might, Guardian.
      It’ll be a long line forming. Tre must be livid! 🙂

      • Guardian

        You would think, but because she has skirted so much and many that she owes I somehow think she’ll ignore it or try to explain it away – rather have her current lawyer do that on her behalf. I read an article this morn that sources claim Bravo wants her back for the next season. If so, hope the checks go right to those she owes. Thanks again to you and all for your support re the storms here last night. All is well – just have to nail down a few shingles and clean up the yard a bit. Could have been so much worse. Don’t know why it bothered me so much this time.

        • twifan2

          So glad to hear you & yours rode out the bad weather & came out unscathed! 🙂
          Hope Mr. Klingerman paves the way for more to get a hold of her ‘future earnings’!

  • WestCoastFeed

    Good for Mr. Klingeman. I guess that none of the great products that made up her empire are bringing in enough to even try to go after them. Juicy was pictured in that Extra interview with a copy of one of her books and a bottle of Fraudulini. No dollars there?

    • twifan2

      OMG when I saw that pic, I actually thought it was like a shrine people set up in their homes of the departed. AND that Tre’s ashes were in that bottle of Felonlini! 😀

  • Klingeman should have known better. She didn’t pay anyone else so why would she pay him. I do feel sorry for this man. He endured a lot with her as a client and worked a tough case only to be fired with no appreciation shown.

    • twifan2

      Boy did he get burnt by her!
      Lesson learned? This should be a red flag to all businesses, people who want to do business with her!

      • Guardian

        Including her current lawyer who I suspect is doing it for the pr and not fees.

        • twifan2

          Somehow I don’t think he’ll come away from Tre without any burns!

          • Jennymckitty

            I think this new lawyer is shady…he may be the one that burns her.

          • Guardian

            That’s what I’m thinking. He could easily turn the tables on her from a pr standpoint.

          • Jennymckitty

            I can’t help but think he has a contract in place where he gets a cut from all future deals.

          • twifan2

            Could be. But if the courts have the last say in where does earnings might go, he’ll have to wait for his cut.

          • Jennymckitty

            I don’t know. If he is getting an agent’s fee, I think his cut will come from the top.

          • twifan2

            Then wouldn’t that a ‘conflict of interest’? He’s her legal attorney & publicity agent. :/

          • Guardian

            Good point as he is – or seems to be – putting in some time with her. Though to Twi’s comments below I don’t think I’d bank on too much if I were him. I don’t know. I only know to pay my bills and live within my means.

          • Jennymckitty

            I would look for him, or someone from his firm, to broker her book deal.

          • twifan2

            He has to go thru Bravo. Remember she’s still under contract with them for 2 yrs AFTER her last signed contract.
            & if she re-signs with Bravo again, there goes her lawyer’s share to Bravo. It would be Bravo handling the book, book deals.

          • Guardian

            Forgot about that, I even forgot about the tome which you just know she is going to write – well, a ghostwriter anyway.

          • twifan2

            Milania will write it for her. 😉

          • Guardian

            In crayon. By the by, haven’t seen/heard anything from the teen trio lately, have you?

          • twifan2

            Pretty in pink! 😀

          • Guardian

            OK – that one went right over my head. New song?

          • twifan2

            Movie from the 80’s.
            Molly Ringwald, I forget the others.

          • Guardian

            Got it now. So slooow today.

          • cait

            CRAYON ! DEMONIA ! She’s not allowed anything sharper than a blunt banana !

          • WestCoastFeed

            According to another blogsite, Joe Gorga is paying his legal fees. I expect that he will be very careful with his public statements about Tre and the family.

          • Guardian

            Interesting. What I’m wondering is then if there are/would be any legal ramifications for JG because he has taken on this financial role? As in others coming after him for their losses? Not a lawyer, and not a clue.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I wouldn’t think so. It is just a case of a brother helping out his financially strapped sister. It is said that her parents and helping with expenses, too. As are the Giudice family.

          • Guardian

            Wonder if her BFF Dina has kicked in anything?

          • twifan2

            OMG Guardian! You made me spit my coffee out with! 😀

          • Guardian

            I sawy – wonder if her fans have? I remember there were a few that wanted to start a fund. Wonder if there are some still contributing to her prison account? Off the subject – sure noticed in the prison picture that her Botox is going away. Ruh roh.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Dina is busy taking pictures of the sunsets in Malibu.

          • Guardian

            Wonder if she is sending her any, “Wish you were here” post cards?

          • wendy feldman

            good one

          • twifan2

            How does Joey have the financial backing to take those kind of bills on? :/
            I think like Jennymckitty posted, that lawyer may have a contract for a share of her future earnings & doing a lot of the work pro-Bono.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Joey and Melissa are currently in Jamaica, enjoying the lovely weather. It seems the reports of their having financial problems are exaggerated.

          • twifan2

            Wonder if the hotel is giving them free stay for the endorsement of their place?

          • WestCoastFeed

            I don’t think so. She’s there with her best friend, Maria Chappas

          • Guardian

            I was wondering the same – same with the rest of the family helping. It has to be a lot and not likely to end anytime soon. I doubt that she would ever do the same for him.

          • cait

            No one will get a share of anything off the Juiceys unless they’re on the pre-approved Court creditors’ list ! The courts own their butts forever !

          • twifan2

            These are the Juicys we post of, cait. Have they ever done things ‘legally’? :/

          • cait

            A completely reformed family who attend Mass every morning on the long walk to school ! Later they all help at the Soup Kitchen on the way home, where they thieve food………………..Oooohh ! They got me didn’t they ? Going for a long lie-down in a darkened room !

          • twifan2

            Cheers cait! 🙂
            The Juicys confuddle everyone. 🙁

          • twifan2

            Here’s what I don’t understand, WCF.
            Tre wants NO help from Joey, so is she only wanting financial help from him? That’s the only ‘support’ she’ll take from Melissa & Joey?

          • WestCoastFeed

            She wont accept any support that might show Melissa publically helping out.

          • twifan2

            ‘publicly’, so any financial help is not to be made public. & they have to take the bad publicity about them in stride? :/

          • twifan2

            Hi Hi Jennymckitty! 🙂
            Sounds like a soap opera in the making! 🙂

          • Jennymckitty

            It is. I think he’ll turn the tables on her. He’s her Addison De Witt…All About Eve…if you haven’t seen it, you need to watch it. Possible the most perfect movie ever made.

          • twifan2

            One of my fave B&W movies!
            ‘Fasten your seat-belts It’s going to be a bumpy ride’! 🙂

          • Jennymckitty

            i love that movie too.

          • twifan2

            I’ll have to play sometime this weekend. 🙂
            ❤ Betty Davis!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Celeste Holm. George Sanders, Anne Baxter, etc. Wonderful movie. With a sweet little cameo for Marilyn Monroe.

          • twifan2

            Marilyn Monroe did a great acting job with that small part! 🙂

      • A lot of these attorneys take on train-wreck clients for the publicity but Tre is more problems than it’s worth. Poor Klingeman learnt the hard way.

        • twifan2

          But Tre is getting some bad publicity now. How is he going to be able to help her with all her legal mess?

        • Guardian

          That’s what I was thinking but he seems like such a sleaze that they deserve each other.

        • Guardian

          So did that advisor she had – can’t think of her name or title right now – but you know the one I mean.

          • twifan2

            Wendy Feldman?

          • Guardian

            Bingo! Thank you. In the end it really didn’t do her any good – she got some fame for less than 15 minutes and a whole lot of shame.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Speaking of Wendy, did you get a chance to listen to her radio show yesterday? I was curious about that lawyer, Eric Breslin, and what Teresa hired him for.

          • twifan2

            I caught the first hour of it.
            I heard that guy, but I had no clue who he was/is.
            Apparently he was ONE of her lawyers when she/they were sentenced.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes. he was there, but I wonder why she hired him? She had Klingeman. Did this Eric have anything to do with her financial disclosure fiasco?

          • twifan2

            Maybe he was on their legal team at the time along with Klingerman?
            As for financial disclosure fiasco, guess they worked from what the Juicys told/gave them & took that at ‘face value’.

          • wendy feldman

            When a client refuses to cooperate w financials it is NOT the lawyers fault- if it was the judge would have admonished them not the defendants

          • cheryl

            How are they going to deal with the financial requirement of disclosure with probation, if they did not cooperate at sentencing?

          • twifan2

            I was waiting for her radio cast to be online, so I could ‘listen’ to it later. Not up yet.

          • wendy feldman

            I hired him to write her sentencing memo as he does in many cases and he and Henry worked together- well tried…

          • WestCoastFeed

            Thanks, Wendy. Her speech was good and it sounded like she read it well.

          • wendy feldman

            she was very coachable

          • Anne Green

            Wait!! I thought you said it was YOU who wrote her sentencing memo?

          • Glad to see you posting after that bad storm you had. Everything ok on your end?

          • Guardian

            Yes – thank you for asking hon. Several funnels touched down but went right back up. The worst of it veered to the south at the last minute as well so just a few shingles to nail down and stuff to pick up in the yard. Spring in tornado alley. Usually I can take it in stride but this one had me really concerned. Sure appreciate how lovely everyone was.

        • wendy feldman

          Well there is more to this story and i will address in my book

          as i have said, teresa is in fact SMART- think about it

          • DLister

            Greetings, Wendy! You gave TG so much of your time and energy — and actually lived through it!

          • WestCoastFeed

            While she is ignorant, the word I have been using for her is “cunning,” rather than smart. What do you think?

  • Jennymckitty

    Did he think he was going to be paid in full? I can’t help but think if I was the defendant he was representing, he would expect to be paid in full while he was my lawyer. I doubt that I would be afforded the luxury of being able to accrue a bill that large. I always assumed the reason he accepted this case was, in part, to cash in on the free publicity. I’m not trying to defend Teresa or say that she shouldn’t pay him. But where did he think the money was going to come from once the plea deal was accepted…once she was behind bars. I wonder if this would have transpired had Teresa not fired him but instead had praised him.

  • Dave

    Another one bites the dust. History always repeats itself Klingerman, you of all people should know that.

    • twifan2

      At least this one has the fortitude/skills to go after Tre.
      I wonder what’s going thru Tre’s tiny brain after she heard the news? 🙂

      • Dave

        He better get in line, there’s a long line waiting ahead of him. Getting money from her will be hard with so many creditors waiting for their cut.

        • twifan2

          But not that many have taken legal action against them/her, Dave.
          A laundry company is the only one know of that has had her wages garnished.

          • Guardian

            It can be so expensive to go after dead beat debt that you really have to weigh it all – been there done that. I too watched others flaunt when they owed me money – it was infuriating to say the least. And even if you win, it can take years, more time, and more money to get the money. Grrrr!

          • twifan2

            Wonder if they would consider a class action suit against her? For her future earnings. :/

          • Guardian

            Would be great, but there’s a lot to bringing those types of suits. Makes a lot of lawyers rich.

  • DSS

    I have no ill will toward this lawyer but hey DUMB A$$, WHO WHERE YOU REPRESENTING AND WHY??????
    He should be paid of course but I dont feel bad for him.

    • Jennymckitty

      ITA. Unlike many of the other businesses that gave them credit, he knew their track record. He also got a lot of free publicity.

      • DSS

        Exacatactlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

      • twifan2

        I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t get paid most of his bill up front. & this was just the residual from the first of the month-Oct 2.

        • Jennymckitty

          Don’t most lawyers get paid upfront?

          • twifan2

            I think it’ up to the lawyer/firm how the financial terms are made. Mostly up front, but, if it’s going to be a long dragged out ordeal, I would think they would want a nice chunk paid up front.

          • Jennymckitty

            Yes, like they ask for $$$ as a retainer that will cover so many hours, then $$$ per billable hour. Unless it is a personal injury where they take a %

          • twifan2

            I think that that $50K was what was residual time/work. They had a large chunk paid, but the court date was delayed for personal circumstances-Juicy’s father’s death. So the legal work was delayed & billed for.

          • Jennymckitty

            Do you think he’d be coming after them if Teresa had said that he did a great job representing her, that she was grateful for the deal she received?

          • twifan2

            I think so.
            Money talks. praise walks.

          • fred

            yes lawyers and everybody else want to be paid for work they do ,maybe these scumbag Guidices don’t understand how this capitalist system works they are some stupid bastards

  • WestCoastFeed

    US Weekly is running a story this week about Bravo wanting Teresa back, along with they story about them being in talks with Juicy. No wonder Klingeman is targeting any future Bravo earnings.

    • twifan2

      GO MR. KLINGERMAN!
      & again, the Juicys’ FameHoe-ing gets them into probs! 🙂

      • WestCoastFeed

        I wonder how much Us paid him for this story, or is it part of the dollars they paid for the prison picture? They used the same photo for this story.

        • twifan2

          Paid who what, WCF?

          • WestCoastFeed

            Us weekly paid the Juicy for this current story.

          • twifan2

            You think it’s a bogus story?
            Wouldn’t you think Mr. Klingerman would be pissed off for being ‘used’ by the Juicys for THEIR OWN gain? :/

          • Guardian

            Then again, using people is their stock and trade!

          • twifan2

            But this is a lawyer she has reneged on payment(s). Think he wouldn’t be pissed & not take legal action?

          • Guardian

            OK – was getting confused a tad but WCF cleared it up about the two articles in play about her right now – this site and the one at US. I was referring to the one at US.

          • twifan2

            I need another double Espresso. I’m so confuddled. o.0

          • WestCoastFeed

            I think we are talking about two different stories. I wasn’t referring to the AAtT story, but the new Us Weekly story.

          • twifan2

            Oh, got it now WCF.
            I would thin that that would have been a ‘package’ deal. The prison photos, his pics with the interview. Wasn’t there something about the mag not wanting to pay the $$$ for the prison story without her prison pic(s)?

    • Guardian

      Wonder if he was called prior for a comment or two?

      • twifan2

        Says in the story AATT tried to reach out to him, but he said, “I have no comment on that.” :/

  • undergroundrailroadtrain

    Even if he never gets paid from her he will be OK. Lots of businesses write off debt owed to them on their taxes. Also I just want to comment on the black guy behind the lawyer in this pic. What a sad photobomb.

  • honeybunny

    And since Teresa and joe will probably only take entertainment level jobs that put them in the public eye, he and other creditors will always know when they are bringing in income. Any business such as bravo and us weekly will be crazy to want to deal with that headache of court orders to garnish wages. Most employers hate it but if they don’t follow they could be found in contempt

    • twifan2

      But for how long will those ‘entertainment’ jobs be afforded. & how much $$$ will they offer?

      • MidwestMiddie

        Will Bravo send Andy to Sicily to tape the Giudice’s, Felons X 2
        Sicilian Pizzeria starring Joe as the Pizza Man, Tre as the Dishwasher/GrapeStomper and their daughters, as the servers?

        • twifan2

          Wrong, MidwestMiddie!
          You know Tre would NEVER be out of the spotlight. She’d be your hostess at the door, waiting to seat you at the counter. 🙂

          • MidwestMiddie

            “…at the counter.” —- LOL
            By the time Joe gets out of prison and is deported to Sicily,
            Teresa will look like heck. She’ll have aged a great deal especially without her required beauty treatments. Also, her young daughters will be the most attractive ones in the family.
            : )

          • twifan2

            Well, there went my appetite for a pizza for lunch today. 🙁

    • Bad Barbie

      I say let them! as long as they are paying back. These debts are not paid back by tax payers contrary to popular belief but they are paid by consumers especially within the same financial institutions. Those interest rates are already high AF!

  • MidwestMiddie

    By the time The Giudice Felons are both out of prison, the only people lined up
    to see them with be the people they owe money.
    Justice!!!!
    : )

  • cait

    The amount taken from future earnings will not be a random “free-for-all ! The Court will issue a formula of how much the family need to live on with the rest being allocated to creditors ! The Government will have first dips, followed by the Banks. I think the “Legal Eagles” get the next round, then Joe Schmoe, apart from the laundry man, who got a claim in early, will be paid as a unit, as they are under a blanket payment plan !

    • Susan Thorne Zavagli

      I assume any future earnings would be garnished or seized……..knowing these two they have stash buried and money in accounts under a relatives name…………..Joe’s family……could even be in Italy…who knows …..they’re not broke…….somehow Joe is at least paying for utility bills……..the checks just aren’t in his name ….they can stay in that house til the bank throws them out and that could take a year or two…….I hope they do not return to reality tv….my only concern is the children

      • twifan2

        ‘.somehow Joe is at least paying for utility bills'<—I really think Juicy has had to cut other things out, just meet daily needs. He doesn't pay car insurance. He used someone's vehicle. If he's not paying the mortgage, taxes on the McMansion-that's a chunk of change he could use elsewhere.
        Do you think Tre will push the girls-Gia especially-into the media spotlight once she's out of prison? it's wa quick way to 'earn' money, she desperately needs.

        • Susan Thorne Zavagli

          I say she’ll push Gia into a money maker

    • Bad Barbie

      This sounds about right.

    • wendy feldman

      That is correct

    • Imstillstanding666

      I hope the amount determined for them to live on is set at a poverty level. Sorry little ones, you should go live with relatives while your parents re-pay.

      • cait

        Has to be set at a living wage !

        • Cindy

          Would that be living in Luxury and driving Expensive Cars??

          • cait

            Nobody wants to buy that dump of a house, and the previous cars were all leased ! Their stuff is worth FA to the Govt. !
            PS. Over here a “living wage” is still below the poverty line, so don’t know what the US is like !

          • Cindy

            True, So I guess if the 3 house don’t sell they get to keep them and live in them and enjoy the shore house (well not Joe) and collect rent from the rental property..When the leases are up I wonder what happens..New leased luxury cars? And I wonder how long it is going to be where they are driving uhmmm “Other Peoples Cars” which I’m sure they will be paid for with the money those people got hidden away..It just seems SO MANY people are just willing to “GIVE” them stuff SMH and I still can’t believe Bravo is going to “Reward” them with having her back (if that happens) spinoff’s etc with BIG MONEY..I just don’t get it..And she is going to be home by Christmas, what a joke…I was watching a show and I couldn’t believe that the football player Plaxico Burress “ACCIDENTALLY” shot HIMSELF and he got around 2 YEARS in Prison and she get’s basically a slap on the wrist and prison camp, UNLIMITED EMAIL I couldn’t believe that one and God knows what other privileges she get’s!! Okay first I’m sorry for rambling started doing a few other things lol so I will just end this now before I don’t make any sense at all lol…..Cait, where are you from? Thanks

          • cait

            Overall, you’re right Cindy, whichever way those two fall in water, they come out dry !
            I live in Manchester, UK, but was born in Dublin. Nice hearing from you !

          • Cindy

            Thanks Cait, have a great day 🙂

  • Flanagan

    I don’t understand why this, or any other attorney, would allow a bill to get so high. I always thought attorneys were like plastic surgeons-money up front or no operation.

    • fred

      any time I have dealt with lawyers in my life they always were forcing me to pay or they would stop representing me

      • Bad Barbie

        For real. Unless they are the pro bono Samaritans lol

        • Guardian

          . . . and their para’s do the work!

    • wendy feldman

      For the press- maybe he underestimated she would turn on him?

      if you listened to my show yesterday on dash radio, I spoke to lawyer Eric Breslin who I bought in late to help with the sentencing memo- Eric discussed and the replay can be heard here online

    • Hi Flanagan! Hope all is well. I would imagine she paid him some monies and skipped out on the remaining balance of $150k.

      • Flanagan

        Hi Seuss!! I just dragged myself in from trimming and raking and sweeping the yard. How are you? You know, when prison can’t keep these two idiots out of the news, it’s a pretty sad statement. We all knew Joe had no job skills, so this just validates it.
        Interesting personal story: (I’ll try to keep it to 500 words or less) Many years ago, my brother and I filed probate on our sister’s estate. All we wanted were some of her personal things, and her #%$?# husband would not give us one thing. (My sister owned the house-his name was not on it). So, the first day in court, when we met his attorney (#%&%@# didn’t bother showing up) I told him if he wanted his money, he better get it up front. Attorney says “I always get my money”. I actually started laughing, and said “You’ve never met the likes of him”.
        2 years later, $%&$# files bankruptcy, and shafted this attorney for $36,000. I declined to call him and say “I told you so”. (We did get some of the things we wanted-photographs, knick-knacks, Christmas decorations etc. AND, we paid our attorney.)

  • Susan Thorne Zavagli

    well at least he doesn’t have to hire a lawyer

    • Bad Barbie

      LMAOOOOOOOOO This was great.

    • BeachSpin

      HAHAHAHA!! That’s the bright side!

    • Guardian

      Touche!

    • Ahahahaha! Good one, Susan!

  • WestCoastFeed

    The US Weekly article also mentions Melissa returning with new wives–maybe Tiki Barber’s wife, maybe the Cake Boss’ wife. And maybe Geraldo Rivera’s wife, Erica Levy.

    • twifan2

      When does filming start, WCF?

      • WestCoastFeed

        My guess is May. Have you seen anything that would give a clue about when?

        • twifan2

          I thought Marcheesy had twitted something about filming in April. That’s the last thing I’ve heard.

          • WestCoastFeed

            He has been silent for 5 days now. Incredible.

          • twifan2

            This twit was posted sometime in Feb, I think.

          • WestCoastFeed

            He was guessing. But if any cast member spilled the beans, it would be Jim.

          • twifan2

            The Paul Revere of Housewives! 😀

          • Guardian

            My vote for today’s best comment. LMAO!

          • I second that! 🙂

    • DLister

      I thought I read somewhere that Tiki’s whore wife said this was only a rumor and they do not intend to do this trashfest.

    • twifan2

      WCF, did the Juicys bankruptcy filing get denied by the court or did it get pulled before it was acted on?

      • WestCoastFeed

        It was denied.

        • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

          Thanks for clearing that up WCF. I thought they were denied.

        • twifan2

          Then where did I get that they pulled it before it was denied? :/
          My head hurts now.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I thought they had managed to pull it, too, until I finally read the indictment counts. I think she just successfully fooled us viewers into thinking she had withdrawn.

          • twifan2

            Another Treusion that she spun to make herself look ‘honest’ . >(

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Only in Tre-landia Twi.
            Geez, try & say that 3 times fast, LOL!

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Thanks Hon. I was almost sure I read it somewhere & was trying to remember if it was just the usual Giudice BS article or an actual doc that I saw it on.

          • twifan2

            So that’s where the blame game started then? Monica, Melissa, the butcher ratted them out to the feds about their lies on paper.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Funny thing, yesterday I read comments from a 2011 RT discussion of the bankruptcy. That was before I was even aware that there were people blogging about any of the housewife shows. I was just a casual viewer. But there were posters then who figured out what liars Tre and Juicy were and who were predicting they would end up in jail.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Not to judge a chimp by it’s fur West, but I think we all saw that one coming. Even from the first season. At least I did.

          • disqus_nx4MfF4kvy

            And Bravo had to see it coming from jump street.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Ita. I bet they did!

          • twifan2

            Were they blasted for their comments? Tre was an icon at that time, from I remember. She could do no ‘wrong’. 😀

          • WestCoastFeed

            No. I was surprised that the Tre huggers weren’t up in arms. There were disagreements but nothing like the violent reactions that I found when I began posting later.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Maybe she did put a secret ingredient in the hair-care line & the felonlini? J/K
            https://38.media.tumblr.com/5798a39ab9495834abeeb6319952d5c5/tumblr_mhkmvfXes11qlzsjko1_400.gif

          • Teresa actually said at the season 4 reunion she withdrew her BK. She told Andy that she withdrew her bankruptcy and she was going to pay her debts off. Andy countered with “Weren’t you forced to withdrew or face criminal charges?”

          • WestCoastFeed

            Thanks, doc.

          • YW! But we all know now through the indictment docs that her attempt to withdraw was not granted by the court. Her and Juicy were forced to go through with the BK and in the end the BK court denied their discharge. Which means their debt was not relieved and they have to pay back creditors $13.4 mm.

          • WestCoastFeed

            One of the reasons I was so indignant when the indictments went down was because she had successfully hoodwinked me over the bankruptcy. That’s just one of the reasons. I think most of my outrage was learning how many years they had been pulling their scams.

          • The indictment was a shocking and revealing read. It opened the eyes of many. Who knew the Juicy’s ran a crime syndicate spanning over a decade. I was floored. I read the indictment numerous times. I found the doc to be fascinating. So many lies she had told over the years exposed.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            I also noticed how all the Tre-stans who were blaming Bravo suddenly disappeared. Poof! Gone!
            Probably because once you read it, you saw how long before Bravo came along that they were already quite deep into the shysty ways!

          • Yes, many have egg on their faces for defending a serial bank robber. After reading that indictment, they had no defense besides “I care about the kids”…. blah blah blah! Whatever!

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Yup. Seems it’s the only leg she left them to stand on.
            (She stole the rest LOL!)

          • twifan2

            But OMG how some Tre-hards still try! smh

          • Yes, isn’t it a shame? I get second-hand embarrassment for some of them.

          • Guardian

            For all of the people (including J & T) who have been involved in this for “the children’s sake” – their faces and words everywhere, I would like to know exactly how it helped any of those four girls?

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.
          • Hahahaha! You and Twi are blast with the gifs.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yesterday’s shower of simians is still putting a smile on my face.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Been workin’ my butt off the last week & a half. Had to keep my sassy in check. Got tons of snark ready to go! LOL!

          • Let it rip, doll ! We all need a vaca.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.
          • Yessssss! Lawd!!! You know how to make me a girl smile. Thank you!

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Ha-ha! Thanks Doc.
            Don’t ya just love it when an actual liars pants do catch on fire! LMFO!

          • Lmao! Yes…that was too funny. And Andy was so messy with his probing questions and Tre’s look of constipation was to die for. Classic RHONJ moments.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Just like when Kyle asked Kim, “If they had that on tape wouldn’t they have shown it?”
            Bwha-ha-ha! The look of constipated-confusion is awesome!
            http://i.imgur.com/Vgk3s.gif

          • Exactly! ^^^ that gesture says it all.

    • twifan2

      Here’s Tre’s next story to sell to the tabs for a while:
      Teresa Breaks Down From Financial Pressures She Facing!

      That should get her a few weeks of coverage & $$$ before it’s seized.. 😉

  • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.
  • Just a jersey girl

    He is someone who really has a claim, the rest unfortunately are subject to statute of limitation laws. Also the banks besides the property they are paying restitution to were sold in short sales.

    • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

      Maybe I’m misunderstanding something but as far as I know their bankruptcy was denied, so not sure what yo mean by statute of limitation laws.
      & I have not heard of one property being sold. Neither the McMansion, the Jersey Shore house or the rental.

      • twifan2

        No, the Juicys pulled their bankruptcy out of the court before action was taken on it by the court is what I understood.
        BUT it’s all a huge mess now to me. :/

        • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

          You sure? I know they attempted to do that but I thought they were unable to & it was ultimately denied.
          Idk? Confused now. These people hurt my head.

          • twifan2

            Join the club! 😀
            Ask WCF! She can navigate you thru their mess! 🙂

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            I thought their attempt to pull the bankruptcy was one of the first ‘red flags’ that went up.
            These people & their scheming ways make my boggle my brain.

          • twifan2

            I just asked WCF. HOPEFULLY she’ll clear it up.
            That was what I thought. They filed, but withdrew it. Hence the red flag.

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            That part I am clear on. Their attempt to pull the bankruptcy. The rest not so sure anymore. But I thought they were ultimately denied.

          • twifan2

            It’s the Juicys & their rat’s nest mess that has me all confuddled.
            AND it won’t be over any time soon! 🙁

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            True. It’s hard to think like a criminal when thats not your norm.

          • twifan2

            I’ll have to ask Chats about it when he gets up. 😉

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Hope you’ve got some salmon & caviar handy.

          • twifan2

            🙁
            It’ll be pbnj sammiches the rest of the month.

          • wendy feldman

            WCF? really

          • WestCoastFeed

            Are our similar initials confusing you? I’m lost here.

          • wendy feldman

            Yes but I understand now- thank you

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Hi Wendy. We are correct though aren’t we? The Giudices bankruptcy was denied.

          • wendy feldman

            Yes and then they were convicted of Bankruptcy FRAUD so it is non dischargeable

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Thanks. Appreciate the clarification.

          • twifan2

            Yes, really.
            WCF=West Coast Feed.
            You try typing out that tag over & over & over. Easier to abbreviate when posting to her. Look at other posts to her on the site, this thread.

          • wendy feldman

            Got it- was so confused…

          • twifan2

            Welcomed. 🙂
            Question for you, Wendy.
            Tre can’t keep a journal, so how is she going to keep track of her experience in prison? She not supposed to email people about her cell mates.
            Tre isn’t Piper Kerman.

          • wendy feldman

            Good question- NO diaries and no blank journals are allowed

            My guess is it will be emails sent home and a lot made up as they say!!!

          • twifan2

            Thanks for the reply, Wendy.
            So more lies basically, since Tre won’t be able to remember who did what when where! That book is going to be a jumbled mess!

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            ” make my boggle my brain.”
            See!

          • Poo

            You are correct. It was published nationally when the judge denied the bankruptsy.

  • TartLemon

    Kinda late to try and attach the US Magazine income isn’t it?

    • twifan2

      Not if the Juicys keep selling stories to them.

  • MidwestMiddie

    Fact or Fiction?
    If Felon Teresa’s Fans and Bitchy Bethenny’s Fans would queues their
    number might reach 13 to 15 strong.

    • twifan2

      Fiction!
      Only get a dirty dozen. 😉

  • italiano bambino

    Get all your money people the giudice take no prisoners

  • misstc

    If this story is true, this lawyer should be at the end of the collection line, not in the front. My question is, how can this attorney be owed any money? Any lawyer I ever worked with in life wouldn’t touch the case till the money was paid up front first. Either way, he was last to be screwed if this truly happened, so he should be last in line to collect.

    • Chloe

      You’re assuming he wasn’t paid anything. I bet he received money to take the case in the beginning then got more payments as the case progressed. He may have charged her $300k and is owed $150k.

  • colleen

    Joe The Juicy Giudices the host of a talk show?!?Juicy is sure a Smooth, sweet talking well educated current affairs and political analyst natural!

    • twifan2

      Can’t wait for that! 🙂

  • I1ST5XS

    This is no suprise! LOL! Since when has Teresa G or Joe EVER paid their bills?

  • T’s Martini Lounge

    Good. He provided services and expects to be paid. This lowlife grifter felon has to pay up. He’s on a long line though. Tre will be a repeat criminal, she has not and will not get rehab’ed. Expect more fraud in the future from this one. Bet she gets Gia to start filling out loan apps. You’ll see.

  • disqus_nx4MfF4kvy

    That lawyer should be happy if he got anything, Teresa didn’t think she would go to prison, my god how can you put a women who is almost not guilty in prison? He didn’t do his job, since T has to go to prison he just doesn’t deserve his fees.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Makes sense to me. Audriana didn’t turn out to be a boy so the fertility clinic didn’t earn their fee, either.

      • disqus_nx4MfF4kvy

        There ya go.

    • Chloe

      This is definitely how Teresa thinks. I think you nailed it.

    • twifan2

      The lawyers did their job tho. IF Tre hadn’t of kept lying to Judge Salas that day, she would have just gotten probation.
      Then again, the lawyers should have put a muzzle on her! It’s the dog’s fault! He didn’t lend her his muzzle. Case closed! 🙂

      • disqus_nx4MfF4kvy

        Teresa & Joe don’t lie, ever.

        • twifan2

          My bad. 🙁

    • EXACTLY! That’s her mentality to a tee. In her convoluted mind “services” weren’t rendered if the outcome does not suit her.

      • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

        But how can Tre continue to claim that she didn’t understand what she was signing when it was all explained to her repeatedly? Does she really believe that the general public is that stupid?

        • twifan2

          The general public believes she’s that stupid. & on La La pills. 🙂

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            But she’s sitting in prison. How do you reason or rationalize that as your daily reality? Just keep chanting “It wasn’t me?” enough times till you believe it?
            FFS!
            Does she not understand the definition of the word criminal?

          • twifan2

            GURL, this is Tre we speak of! Trelusional Tre! :p

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            I know, I know. What was I thinking?

        • DEFLECT…DEFLECT…DEFLECT…that’s her motto. It’s easier than telling the truth for Tre.

  • WestCoastFeed

    ROL is running a story they credit to Life & Style magazine about fears that Gia is growing up too fast–trying to make it with her girl trio, taking over the mother’s role with her sisters, etc.
    Okay, there’s a negative story that probably came from the Giudice camp that will probably be counteracted by a positive story on how splendidly Juicy is doing as a single dad. Will that one appear in In Touch?

    • twifan2

      Double the pay out! You betcha there’ll be one in another tab. 😀
      April 15th getting close!

      • WestCoastFeed

        Oh, and they are demanding 5 figures for Gia interviews.

        • twifan2

          ROTFLMAO!
          Stop WCF! I just had dinner! :’D

        • twifan2

          It’s not April 1st anymore, WCF! :’D
          Where was that at? :/

          • WestCoastFeed

            ROL has the story which they say comes from Life & Style.

          • twifan2

            My side hurts too much from laughing at the $$$ Gia is asking right now. 😀
            I can’t with the Juicy fambly!

          • twifan2

            Thanks for the giggles, WCF! 🙂
            Needed something to cheer me up after hearing that this is the last season of Downton. :'(
            BUT Fellows is supposed to help in the writing of NBC’s tv series, ‘The Gilded Age’. Supposedly a young Earl of Grantham, baby Cora, young Violet will be featured. Not sure how that’ll pan out. :/

          • WestCoastFeed

            Hmm. I’ll look forward to that.

        • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

          Ha-ha! Just saw that one myself. Five figures. ^^^Dying!
          Almost choked on my iced tea!

          • twifan2

            Chats was ROTFLHAO too, T! :’D

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            I just can’t with these people anymore. Shes sitting in prison but it’s a freakin’ country club compared to the reality of state prison. Make-up & hair products & five figure checks from tabloids & magazines! Our Vets don’t even get that & it irks the chit outta me!
            I just want to see some justice. In some sense of the word. I need them to pay back what they stole from all those people. I think that would satisfy me.

          • twifan2

            But pimping out your kid(s) for crimes you committed because of your greed. That’s what I think is despicable!

          • ♥♥♥ Tigerlily ·.¸¸.·*¨·.·.¸¸.

            Exactly! When did it become socially acceptable to live off of your children? Your children? Little kids?
            Ita, I see it as a lesser form of child prostitution. It’s okay & acceptable because some people feel there’s glamour & fame attached to it? No, sorry. Not okay!

          • twifan2

            & sorry to say, Gia isn’t ‘talented’.
            When Tre gets out, I feel sorry for those girls! She’ll be pimping them out to save her lifestyle not pay back what she owes!

        • Flanagan

          I read that Gia’s grades are slipping, but what the heck-In Giudice speak, money is worth far more than your children’s well being. Those two cretins are probably blaming the “haters” for Gia’s grades, and of course, the answer to that is for Gia to make MORE money to keep up the family. I never thought anyone would be in contention to by pass the Kardashians in utter debauchery and degradation, but T&J are pulling up fast.

        • cait

          $100.11 is a fair 5 figure price for an article of this calibre !

  • cheryl

    Someone needs to write Teresa’s story before she does. Do the investigative and chronilogical story. From the beginning. Her parents back story, her upbringing, her marriage to Joe and how when her brother married Melissa the Gorga family never accpeted her, so therefore do not accept her children. The only interest i see is the story of the truth. Teresa will only do what she did on Housewifes and that is create a narrative and storyline. Starring her and her victim status of life at the hands of everyone else. I have re watched all of the seasons. Teresa does have the ability to breakout in the cast of characters she filmed with, she created interest in her life, but it has been a false story. I think her real circumstances and life have far more tragic and unhappy.

    • cheryl

      The Naked Liar or The Ingrediances of My Life

      • cheryl

        InGREEDYances of My Life.. the infamous Teresa Guidice

  • Fritz the. At

    Hoping stacey is reading this and confirm, but I thought that lawyers move up the food chain to get payment. It’s th IRS, then lawyers, then banks, then businesses.