Paranoid Housewife: Teresa Giudice Panics About Her Girls & Their Future As The Clock Ticks Down

Posted on Dec 26 2014 - 9:54am by BeachSpin

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Christmas has come and gone, and as the first days of 2015 creep closer and closer, life is about to hit new heights of reality for “Real Housewives of New Jersey” star, Teresa Giudice. When Judge Salas granted Teresa a three month period to order her affairs and spend the holidays with her family, it appeared to be a huge blessing for the Bravo star. However, as the stories seeping from Camp Giudice grow more frantic and desperate in nature, it makes you wonder if the wait was actually the best strategy for maintaining Teresa’s mental health. Insiders are blabbing, and the one common thread in these stories is that Teresa is petrified, possibly even paranoid, with fear probably blurring the lines between reality and imagination to the point of bringing directionless panic into the mix.

READ: Clarification: Teresa Giudice Home Raid – The Investigation Continues

One of the first reports of Teresa coming unglued was blasted out by Radar Online, when they spilled that they were told by trusted sources that Teresa is paranoid that the feds are tapping her phone lines as well as those of her parents. She is allegedly freaked to talk on the phone at all, on cells as well as land lines, because she is convinced that the feds are listening to her every word.

“In the past several weeks, Teresa has been buying disposable cell phones, and keeps conversations very short,” the insider added.

It makes one wonder why Teresa would be afraid of the feds at all…remember she has supposedly established a payment plan to repay her restitution, and has done NOTHING to invite justification for any authorities to descend on her personal space. Hmmmmm. Paranoid or not? I would say this one’s a toss up…it sounds like a stretch, but Camp Giudice is leaking like a sieve, so who really knows who could be listening in?

Another widely circulated story that was also originally reported by Radar, asserts that Teresa is growing increasingly alarmed about the prospect of leaving her daughters in the sole care of her their father, Joe. He is dealing with the fallout from his criminal activity, an admitted drinking problem, as well as facing his own prison stint. This anxiety has purportedly sparked actions that have triggered other reports laying out the possible placement of the girls, namely oldest daughter, Gia. Gia is supposedly actively seeking to live with one of her 3KT band mates for her mother’s incarceration period, citing the need for a female parental figure. I believe the alarm here is for good reason…why did this legitimate nightmare not trigger a strategy of transition back in October?

A valid argument for some true horror, is what awaits Teresa beginning January 5, 2015. As we previously reportedTeresa’s new reality in federal prison, will not be a catwalk. Upon surrendering to prison, Teresa will be treated just like every other inmate entering the prison system. She will be fingerprinted, photographed, and strip searched. The former reality star will have to submit to a urine sample in front of the prison officers. She will be issued a prison uniform and black steel toed boots. She will be given bedding — a pillow, sheets, a blanket and towels then assigned a prison cell in the facility.

READ: Teresa Giudice: What Life In Prison Will Be Like For The Convicted Felon

Should Teresa be panicked? I think that the answer to this one is glaringly obvious. Whether the substance of all that Teresa is embroiled in is solid or not, one thing is for sure. Teresa is terrified, and the closer that January 5th gets, the more intensely frightening her personal truth will become.

 

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  • AudiS4 CarFan2002

    So… First question, is this real?…was the raid real?… Actually the true be told this is fun to read and follow but in the END who care about her and her kids. Joe and her have made the bed and now need to sleep in it. The kids need some TOUGH LOVE if they hope to survive the next few year and become grounded as adult or they will just follow there parents footsteps to ….

    • itsjustme

      I’d like to know the truth about the raid also. I’ve become a bit more skeptical that the raid actually did take place in the manner that has been reported. While I do feel sorry for their kids, I feel Teresa and Joe have done NOTHING to help the situation they are faced with in regards to their daughters. They’ve had 3 months to prepare the girls for the inevitable and from the sounds of it they’ve done NOTHING at all for the girls. And for THAT reason I feel sorry for the girls. It’s they who are going to suffer the long term affects of their parents dishonorable activites.

      • Birdie11

        It’s interesting to note that the Radar phone tapping story came out post raid…maybe Tre is freaked because there indeed WAS a raid…and is puzzled by who spilled the beans…just speculation of course…but the timing certainly seems coincidental at the very least.

  • Brassy

    Glad this is finally coming to a close! Teresa is going to jail not the freaking gas chamber!!.There are hundreds of women who are in and entering jail, it’s about time she learns that she like all of us women Pee sitting down!!! She will find it more difficult if she thinks she is better then any of the women already there serving their time.

  • Ravello

    I’m sure she believed the three month waiting period would be time enough to get some kind of a pardon. Now reality is hitting, she is going to jail. As far as the girls go why doesn’t Joe’s newly widowed mother move in with the family to take charge of them. I don’t believe the stories about splitting up the girls to different homes. The story about Gia looking for a home might be manufactured to drum up sympathy.
    Teresa knows all the secrets and is rightfully paranoid that multiple entities are trying to unravel the web of lies. The creditors will be digging hard, as they should be. Assets will be seized and I believe the previously reported raid is part of asset recovery.
    Has there been anything official that Teresa is going to Danbury? I know that was her request but I’ve read the federal prison system does not let you pick and choose. A local media person served time in the federal prison system, he did not get his assignment until the week prior to reporting.

    • Jennymckitty

      The BOP assigns the prison where one must surrender. It is ultimatey based on where there is available space. They take things into consideration…judges recommendations, proximity to family, medical needs, etc..

  • Great article Beach. I’m patiently waiting for Jan 5th because I know this won’t end smoothly. Expect a whole lot of shenanigans before she finally surrenders.

  • cait

    Gia only wants out ‘cos she knows daddy won’t pour rash-cash her way ! When Mellownia is away from her mom, she behaves so much better ! Ser6 she was out with Rosie and Joe. She was respectful, polite and helpful ! The common denominator for the children’s poor behaviour is Teresa !

    • Tre’s Going to Prison

      Great Observation Cait!

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I agree. Teresa pacifies the kids and rewards their bad behavior.

  • melzy

    it is obvious that Teresa’s home did not get raided this story should be retracted. I am no fan of her’s, I hate what she and her husband did to small business and their families. However, I take no pleasure in her pain of spending a year away from her family.

  • italiano bambino

    I’m Waiting for that poster to tell us that we don’t have NO HEART for teresa situation… lol i can read it now!

    • Fritz the. At

      Hey handsome. Merry Christmas. Did you have calamari on Christmas Eve like all good Italians?

    • Hey honey!!! Merry belated Christmas my friend!

  • Fritz the. At

    I don’t believe there was a raid. By now, more info would have been made public. Somebody threw out bad info and damaged credibility for all the media that ran with it. When the Feds or other law enforcement don’t want to spill the beans, they respond with a no comment, not a solid denial. I wonder how long they get to live in the mansion. They overpriced it knowing it wouldnt sell, they pulled the same stunt when they claimed bankruptcy. They will continue to lie and deceive until they get caught once again. She deserves so much more than 15 months just for her post sentencing behavior alone. I resent that she is still driving a Beemer and living like a queen on stolen money.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I think raid of some kind did happen. What leads me to believe this is the fact Teresa stopped all social media after Dec 14 and hired a new lawyer. She’s going to prison, there was no need for a new lawyer. Also, she’s yet to come out publicly and deny it herself.

      • Birdie11

        Exactly!! Also a sealed investigation brings NO discussion, and the IRS doesn’t answer to anyone.

        • RealitytvJunkie

          Same goes for state investigations. I know first hand.

    • WestCoastFeed

      I don’t believe the raid story, either, Fritz. But I will guess at what could have occurred to trigger the story. Since two probation officers were mentioned, my guess is that they were there to inventory the Giudice assets and had been informed where to find them. But that is only a guess. Not a fact.

      • Fritz the. At

        West,

        That is the best answer and makes sense. Good job.

  • Fritz the. At

    Teresa is a serial liar. Why her denial is important is beyond me. In fact, if she did deny I would be more apt to believe the raid did happen. She has a lawyer suing another lawyer and she is probably looking for another out to get put of prison. If the raid did happen, i am pretty positive some other media would be all over it. There has been radio silence from the so called source who leaked it.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I didn’t realize sources reveal themselves. That’s a first.

  • Fritz the. At

    Not reveal themselves to us but to provide some sort of explanation or new info to this site. What was printed later did not explain anything, it was nothing but a bunch of could have happened scenarios.

    • WestCoastFeed

      I guess we can’t expect the source to be considerate of us or of AAtT. Or maybe the source was mistaken himself.

  • Birdie11

    Teresa has GOOD reason to be scared WITLESS. If it was me, fear for my children would be paralyzing. She could have had 3 months of preparation under her belt…this panic could have been lessened by using half a brain.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Birdie!! This is Teresa we’re talking about! When has she ever used half a brain?

      • Birdie11

        I know West…UGH!! I wish people would point their fingers right at HER every time they feel heartbroken over those kids.

  • Dave

    Teresa waited all this time to worry about the care for her girls. The judge gave her 3 months to get her affairs in order and she used the time chasing hack attorneys to get her out of prison. I’ve said this before, she did not get enough time. She’s learned nothing from this experience. January 5 can’t come quick enough for me. And yes, I will celebrate with a bottle of Champagne when the ape turns herself in.

    • Marsbars09

      I think Tre should have gotten at least 10 years for her crimes.

    • YES!! In my honest opinion she should have gotten more time than Joe. She’s the mastermind behind this whole mess.

  • WestCoastFeed

    How soon can we expect her bankruptcy attorney’s response to her lawsuit? Won’t that be sometime before she has to report to prison? Do I remember Stacy saying that he had 20 days to respond?

  • Yolie

    Poor Teresa she will be a target for sure, I’m just hoping that someone beats the crap out of her and doesn’t stick her cause then it gets messy. If I were Teresa I would try to find someone to protect me but protection doesn’t come free. There is always Protective Custody which is fondly called Punk City but that means being locked up 23 of 24, good luck T.

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Yolie! I too predict Tre will get into some brawls in prison.

    • Bwahahahaha! Spot on, Yolie.

  • The clock is ticking down 9 more days and counting until TreApe’s surrender. Yeah!!!!!!!!

  • Chloe

    The blogs need to stop reporting on this felon. I will be grateful for the days when people say Teresa Giudice…WHO???

  • WestCoastFeed

    Tonight is 3KT’s free concert at that strip mall in Freehold. Of course, for a $60 fee one can get a VIP pass to meet and greet the girls. Anyone going?

    • Oh Gosh!!! I will pay my last $60 for a VIP pass!!! This is a must-see concert……NOT!!

      • Marsbars09

        LOL! I said the same thing Doc.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Even for free, I doubt anyone outside of their families will attend. The VIP $60 pass is a total joke.

    • Marsbars09

      Woohoo! Not!
      How was your holiday WCF?

      • LOL!!! Too funny. Who in their right mind would go see them, free or not!!

        • Tre’s Going to Prison

          This may indeed be oxymoronic but (for the “Who in their right mind…” part)…Tre Huggers….

          rrrrreeerrrfffftttt

          • Oh yeah!!! I always forget about the “unexplainable” people. LMAO!!!

            Hey love! 🙂

          • fengshoe1

            Tre’s!
            How are you, kindred Spirit?
            Wishing you’re healing from going in on the palm trees. 😉

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Yep, I have some great Kindred Spirit buds from AAtT…Lovin’ it!
            Hey you changed your avatar…so did I…! Doesn’t my pic of Nene look cute!
            Today I was putting patio furniture together and doing the wash. I’m actually having a great time getting stuff done at the home while I’m off for winter break from teaching!
            I’m doing that mantra for you as well as a similar one for NAWS too. Hope it works.
            I’m having a great time! Don’t they say…”Having a Great Time…Wish you Were Here!”

          • fengshoe1

            LoLoL! Those teeth, Tre!
            Your mantra is aiding immensely. While last eve was rough, was able to remain on solid spiritual ground. I thank thee.
            My new avi is Gustav/me(missing him)…somewhere in Pa, at McDonalds sharing ice cream, on our way back to Boston after delivering donations. Oh..that trip we met Louis Prima Jr! Are you familiar with Louis sR?

            Wish I were there with you, basking in sun. It has been unusually mild here though, so can’t complain.
            We should have a proper chat. Anytime, Doc has my number.
            Blessings

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            That is so Sweet. Our pets are such Loves!

      • WestCoastFeed

        Hi, Marsie. Christmas was fun. We played Cards Against Humanity and laughed ourselves silly.

        • Happy belated Christmas, West. What are cards against humanity? Sounds like fun.

          • WestCoastFeed

            google it. It’s a great snark game.

    • italiano bambino

      3KT free concert? lol poor girls..

      • Hahahaha! You soooo crazy!!!

        • italiano bambino

          if there trying to get attention from a big company to support them mmmm… give it up

  • Marsbars09

    Well, Tre has herself to thank for this, and I place a strong emphasis on SELF.
    Instead of arranging for the care of her “4 beautiful daughters” she was busy making money and figuring out ways to avoid prison. Now that the end is near she’s trying to figure out where to place her girls. It’s a shame Joe isn’t worth a damn to help out.
    I feel so bad that these girls have such selfish a-holes as parents.

    • fengshoe1

      Spot on, Mars!
      Hey…I took your sage advice.I didn’t stop by my mom’s. The attempts at making me feel guilty and manipulating me, are back. Hah, baby steps.

  • Tre’s Going to Prison

    What a Great Article…well written…researched with care…and oh so interesting as well…like all of your articles are.
    Way to write Beach Spin!

    • BeachSpin

      Thank you Tre’s!! 🙂

  • AudiS4 CarFan2002

    Another stupid question? Who would be friends with a family of liers…Any Suggestion? Other than Dana which might be questionable.

    • Tre’s Going to Prison

      Bravo would be friends with anyone as long as they make money for them!

    • Good question….I would surmise, stupid people that don’t mind being lied to.

    • Lucy94

      Regardless of EVERYTHING else we know, mentally I am on a different level than Teresa and that doesn’t speak well for Teresa.

  • TartLemon

    Just a hunch…. Teresa assumed the Giudices would step in. Why should they with Teresa filing the lawsuits and placing blame on Juicy THUS the whole Family? Juicy’s been quiet because he gets it. IMO, the whole ‘Family’ has turned their backs on Teresa. Every suit she’s filed reveals a few more details, names a few more names.

    There was an episode (don’t quite remember the season) where Juicy says “We chose this life. They (the children) didn’t”. Teresa clearly understood and agreed.

    • Agreed! TreApe is just as guilty. Hey Tart, hope you had a joyous holiday. Merry belated Christmas.

      • TartLemon

        I don’t know how old Mama Giudice is but suspect she does not want the job of raising the kids. I’m 61 and love my own, but would not want to have the responsibility. I moved far enough away that I can always say ‘nope cant make it’ but close enough that in the case of an emergency I can be there in 8 hrs.

        Downsized about 8 years ago from polluted urban upscale fully furnished 2 bedroom apartment to an efficiency (full sized kitchen, bathroom) on a lake in rural Ozarks. Never been happier. 2 cats, small private yard for flowers and cursory jalapeno bush. Internet, satellite tv. Everything I need. Biggest thing to get used to was not being able to pick up the phone any time of day or night to get food delivered. WalMart is @ 30 minutes away. In Spring/summer, there’s little stands of people selling their garden bounty.

        ~~ramble ramble~~ could go on and on

        • WestCoastFeed

          Mama Giudice is 58 or 59. It is said that she is not in the best health.

          • TartLemon

            I just can’t imagine having to start all over raising children at this age. If there was no other option (sudden death) I would step up. Teresa acts like it’s everyone else’s responsibility, though. She’s made no downsizing moves.

          • WestCoastFeed

            She may be figuring that the family will be able to stay in the mansion until she is released. I gather that foreclosure proceedings take a very long time

          • fengshoe1

            West, it’s so strange to think Mama G. is that young. I’m 54 and can’t imagine having “a Joe” who is in his 40s. My kids are 21, 19, 17.
            Four kids is a huge responsibility, nevermind we’re speaking of “those” 4 kids.

          • WestCoastFeed

            She married at 14.

          • fengshoe1

            Oh my! I suppose it was commonplace for some who emigrated.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Or commonplace for that part of Italy. They do seem to be some kind of Italian rednecks.

          • fengshoe1

            Haha…Italian rednecks, lol.
            Multi-generational, at that.

          • Debbie Willard

            LMAOOOOOOOOO ITALIAN REDNECK’S BEST SAYING EVER

          • LMAOOO!!!

        • fengshoe1

          That sounds beautiful, Tart! Perfect actually.

        • I love this. Sounds like a future to aspire too. Do you have neighbors? While I like mine, many days I don’t feel like being bothered.

          • TartLemon

            Small complex of 6 apartments. Mine was built as an afterthought, tacked on to the end. The others face the road, mine faces the woods. Kind of like I live here all alone. The road used to be the main thoroughfare then @20 years ago, an interstate was built parallel. I never knew how much emotional weight I was carrying until I moved away and let it all go.

  • WestCoastFeed

    Melissa and Joey had the elder Gorgas for Christmas Eve. She and Joe both tweeted pictures. It seems that Teresa and family went to Pete and Sheila’s but that’s not certain from the few pix I’ve found so far.
    I hope someone can post the pix Ashlee Holmes tweeted showing Christmas Eve dinner at Caroline Manzo’s house. Wow!

  • Lucy94

    Who wants to bet this nit wit shows up to prison with luggage? The sad thing is, I’m serious.

  • noarguingwithstupid

    Nothing would surprise me with TreApe!!

    • fengshoe1

      ‘Afternoon, Naws! How are you feeling today?
      Sending healing energies, up and out, to you!

  • Bonita Gee

    I REALLY think that Melissa and her brother Joe are going to HAVE to step up and take care of the kids. It doesn’t look like her husband Joe is going to be there for his OWN KIDS! ……. It’s sad… she’ll HAVE to make arrangements before she goes in on January 5th. I don’t think that she should leave Gia to a family that she’s not even related to.
    Has she even even spoken with the family Gia is with, does she even know those people?
    Sheese……. get it together Teresa before you go off to Camp Cupcake.

    • fengshoe1

      Greetings Bonita!
      Joe and Mel would be perfect and I thing Joey would step up. The issue is T despises Mel and her hate for Mel trumps her dorters welfare, imo.

      • Bonita Gee

        Yeah you’re right but in the long run and before its all said and done I don’t think she’ll have a choice but to let Mel & Joe step in for those kids.

        • fengshoe1

          I agree. The clock is a ticking. I don’t think anything she planned has gone her way. And, as far as I’m concerned, it’s about time.
          Do you know anything about the rumor of Gia moving? I must have missed that story but have read of it here. Thanks.

          • Bonita Gee

            No the only thing I know about the Gia story is what I’ve read here on AATT.. I’m sure we’ll hear more as the story unfolds in the future.

          • fengshoe1

            Thanks, Bonita.
            And more shall be revealed!

        • WestCoastFeed

          And I think that if she asked her kids. they’d say they would like moving in with Uncle Joe and Aunt Melissa.

  • fengshoe1

    Haha…I’m certain it’s all been said, but..
    Teresa and Joe had plenty of time to get Joe to rehab. Had he gone their dorters had a chance at having a responsible parent in the fold.
    Teresa being issued steel-toed boots is a scary thought. I don’t believe she can control her temper. She did a reasonable job, this past season, but any watching the reunion could see her clenched fists, in particular, when Kathy was on stage.

  • “What time is it” Tick tock….tick tock!! *refresh your browsers

    http://youtu.be/TmD1sCEeR5o

    • Anne Green

      This great!!! I love you, Doc!!!! Tick Tock….Tick Tock

      • Hi my Anne!! Love you, too. 🙂

        Tick Tock, listen to the clock….Tick Tock, listen to the clock!!!

    • fengshoe1

      Hey, doll! Left you a message, earlier. No worries….I’m around all day/night today. 🙂

      • Hu there….Okey dokey, will check it out.

        • fengshoe1

          Yep. As I mentioned-no worries-just touching base. When time permits…..xo

          • Ok hon. Thanks.

          • fengshoe1

            Yeah, was gonna say nothing important, but checking in with friends is important. lol

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Guess Tre is lucky she didn’t pull this chit in Arizona. In Arizona chain-gangs were re-instated in 1996 & they still have chain-gangs. Even female chain-gangs.

      Unh- AH!

      Unh! AHH!

      • fengshoe1

        Now that would be a site, TL!
        Tre tripping over feet. Oh, I’m so naughty. 😉

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Tre would freak. Used chains??? USED!?!?!?
          How skeevie can ya get? Next you’l be asking me to wear used clothes & underwe…

          What? OH! Chit! Never mind…

          • fengshoe1

            Haha…what no Hermes chains? interspersed with leather?!

      • pla502az

        They are called “chain gang chicks” and the local radio stations will have “cgc sightings”. You know, where they are picking up trash on the side of the freeway that day(even during the summer). But, it is a privilege to be on the gang. Tre wouldnt be eligible because she would continually be on the naughty list. LOL. Also, it is a program by the county sheriff. Too bad the feds dont have programs our local sheriff. Can you imagine Tre in “tent city” in the middle of August??? Thre are your laughs for the day.

        • fengshoe1

          Tre in tent city?! LoL

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          You live in AZ. Pla? No way! I wouldn’t, couldn’t live in AZ, because Sheriff Joe scares the bejeezus outta me!
          Tents in 120+ degree heat? Green baloney? Stale, moldy bread?
          Nah. I’ll stay here In NYC & take Riker’s Island anyday, thanks! LOL!

          • pla502az

            Yes, i live in AZ. But, not in sheriff joe’s county. He is very popular with the non criminals for some strange reason. The criminals go to tent city and abandoned/abused dogs go to the air conditioned jail. Lol

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Well the doggies didn’t do anything criminal. LOL! Works for me.

          • pla502az

            Exactly

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      Nice Doc!

  • TartLemon

    I’m not sure Teresa gets it YET. This is not sleep away camp with day passes to handle ‘important’ stuff.

    • fengshoe1

      I don’t believe she gets it, Tart. Don’t think she will ’till after the doors slam shut and she’s been there for a few.

      • TartLemon

        LOL I picture her knocking on the locked doors telling the guard ‘Okay, I’m sorry. Can I leave now?’ Like it’s a time out or something.

        • fengshoe1

          LMBO! Yes, that! Exactly that.
          How ’bout those steel-toed boots?! She can’t control her temper. After saying sorry, she’s gonna have an epic melt down.

      • Guardian

        I have a feeling the strip search will wake her up very quickly!

        • fengshoe1

          There ya go, Guardian! Strip search in front of several is enough to bring most around to the reality.
          Wishing you had a wonderful holiday-surrounded by loved ones!

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      I can’t wait until they tell her when she can take a dump–and when she learns that there are NO DOORS on the bathrooms (for fear of women ‘getting her on) in the Loo! Scandalous! 😉

  • TartLemon

    Delinquent mortgage, taxes and upkeep don’t catch up for a while. Utilities MUST be paid immediately. The electricity/heating bill for that monstrosity must be HUGE. No gas for the cars unless it’s cash when the cards quit working. Grocery store requires immediate payment. How do they afford all those expensive private schools and extracurricular activities?

    • fengshoe1

      Just an fyi, any means of heating cannot legally be turned off from between Nov through March. And that can vary from region to region. I’m only aware from my efforts with the Oglala Lakota Sioux.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        As far as I know & speaking from my childhood experiences. NY & NJ don’t give a flying fack Feng. They will shut you off in a heartbeat if you can’t pay. Don’t matter what temp.

        • fengshoe1

          Oh, I know it. I’ve seen vets and Elders, literally, freezing to death on the reservations. I worked with a few senators and discovered there is a law. The companies don’t give an eff…they take advantage of folks not knowing the law. Trust, I’ve had it out with some major companies in S.D.

          • fengshoe1

            So..I suppose my point was there is recourse for those deserving. 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            In NY they have HEAP. Which is an acronym for Home Energy Assistance Program for low income families. & believe me it’s minimal at best.
            Don’t think Tre qualifies. LOL!

          • fengshoe1

            I’d have to look through my paper work to see which dept the law the falls under.
            And nope, Tre certainly doesn’t deserve any recourse! LoL-see my below post.
            I despise large wealthy cos that take advantage of the poverty stricken.
            Heck, I am still baffled how the Gs continue to live in the marble mausoleum.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Same here Feng. It boggles my mind. Cause if it were you or me? We’d be playing rock, paper, scissors to see who was gonna try to sneak our blankies back from Big Bertha without waking her up! Eeep!

          • fengshoe1

            Yes, indeed, TL.

            If you’re interested….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfRXfbpyCrA

            This is the video that propelled to take action. I must warn you it is heart-wrenching and graphic. I’ve been working with Lakota since.
            Would love to hear your thoughts.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Incredibly sad Feng. I know. I’ve lived it. As a child & as an adult too. My Dad died before I was 2. My Mom raised 3 girls by herself. We were 2, 4 & 6 at the time my Dad died. He was also a veteran.
            The big companies? Well they didn’t care. They shut off the gas, the electricity & refused us heating oil when my Mom couldn’t afford to pay.
            Heck they even shut off the water & threatened to take the house when she couldn’t pay the taxes or the mortgage.
            Made no difference when or what time of year. Spent many days in the dark & cold. Spent many days hungry too. No one cared. Not even the church. My Mom worked her butt off but there was little she could do to make ends meet. We’d have eggs or pancakes for dinner sometimes cause that’s all we could afford, Sometimes we went without. But through it all, I realized that my Mom was a hero. A real life hero!

          • fengshoe1

            I’m so sorry you grew up in those conditions. Far too many live like this. And here we are the wealthiest, supposedly, in the word.I didn’t find out till I was in my 30s how poor we were when I was young. My dad was an invalid and his friends encouraged him to run for public office. The rest, as they say, is history. 🙂
            Strange that the church didn’t even aide your family? Catholic charities , in my dealings, have been a great org.
            Sorry about posting the video, it’s just I am so passionate about these issues that plague so many.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks Feng. No worries Hon. I appreciate you sharing it. Glad you did. What is happening to all these people is wrong. No two ways about it, it is just plain & simple. It’s WRONG! It should not be happening & it should be brought to light. Needs to be brought to the light!

            Like Teresa Giudice, so many complain about such stupid, trivial things.
            Can’t imagine how they’d handle a real life crisis!

            We only knew we were poor because it was rubbed in our faces, constantly, but we still had fun. I remember some of those days as being some of the funnest (Is that a word?, lol) times we ever had.
            I have some great childhood memories. Even with all that strife & struggle. & no the church didn’t help. Which in turn made me tune out & turn off to any & all organized religious groups.
            Just to give you an example. they knew my Mom was struggling but yet the Pastor of our parish, a Monsignor, no less, bought a new BMW every year. So much for a vow of poverty, huh?

          • fengshoe1

            Thanks, sweetie. Hah, as I post here, dealing with an issue at facebook. FB no longer allowing my brothers and sisters(Am Indian) to use their Creator given names. Crazy-colonization continues.

            Funnest suits the memories, so yes, it is a word. 🙂 I recall being made fun of for wearing my older brothers’ hand me downs. There was a store my mom shopped at where all knew it came from Jerry’s. There would always be a huge seam down the front of my tee shirts. Hah.
            Shame on the church folk. I’ve not been a Catholic since early teens. Even then I could see things.
            My dad asked me once if given the opportunity to spend time with the president or the person, down on their luck, homeless, at the side of the curb-who would I choose to spend time with. Said he hoped I would choose the homeless as my life would be richer. Wise man, imo.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ita Feng. Your Pops was indeed a very wise man. Very wise.

            God bless him & thank him for his wisdom!

            Many years ago I drove for a living. Everyday, twice a day, I would pass a homeless family living in a tent by the side of the road. It was a Mom, Dad & a little girl. I couldn’t go by & not offer help.
            My friends & co-workers would rip on me but I used to buy them food whenever I could afford it. Not much, because I didn’t have much, but I’d get them peanut-butter, jelly, bread, tuna, anything that wouldn’t spoil. I did this for years.

            I think I got more out of it than they ever did, but they were beyond grateful.

            I know firsthand what it’s like to see your child suffer because of circumstances that are beyond your control.

            Have you ever watched the videos on YouTube about the group that goes around feeding the homeless? They are heartbreaking! Really hard to watch but yet so uplifting at the same time. It just goes to show you that those who have nothing are willing to share the little they do have & those who have everything just take & take!

            (Sorry if I upset anyone don’t want to be a Debbie Downer but I think they shed light on what is happening everyday here in our “rich” country to real life everyday people. Also there are some expletives used for those who might be offended.)

          • fengshoe1

            Many thanks for sharing the vids, Tiger! Will watch, in a bit.
            Bless you for what you did for that family. How sad that others made fun of you. Like you, I get far more out of it. Back in Jan 2010, I had received bad, serious news on my health. Our financial situation had changed and we had so little, but I beg and borrowed to buy a used Tahoe to haul supplies to SD. What it did for me-and continues to do- medicine could never do. There was a homeless vet at Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe. Every day I brought him chili, with pop top can and bread, p’nut bitter and jelly. We sit close to keep warm (18 degrees) and I felt I was on top of the world.
            Thank you for kind remarks about dad. He crossed in June of 06, but his wise words are forever with me.
            How some cannot be moved by others’ plight is beyond me. I weep.
            Thanks again for sharing. Means a lot. Bright blessings being sent up and out to you and yours.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks Feng. Hope my Mom & your Dad are happy & proud of the people we have become. I think so.
            & many bright & happy blessings to you too Lovey!

          • fengshoe1

            They smile warmly upon us, of that I am certain!
            Many thanks.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            That’s just horrible. Especially vulnerable populations such as those of which you speak. The Giudices, I have no pity whatsoever for–they can burn their ostentatious furniture in their many fireplaces for warmth. Or better yet, move into that apt. above the pizza parlor but taking the heat away from vets and Elders? That is simply reprehensible.

          • fengshoe1

            Oh Heels! The atrocities I’ve witnessed are endless.
            If time permits check out the vid I posted to TL. Teresa doesn’t deserve any recourse. Let her pile on her furs, for all I care-or don’t.
            On a brighter note-
            How was your holiday with your visiting friend?

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            I won’t watch it today–because I don’t want to feel sad today–but I did bookmark it.

            It was SO wonderful seeing my friend. He’s doing so well–he just got off a national tour and he’s finally becoming rewarded for all his hard work (he’s an incredible artist–and is just now making a big name for himself). We’ve been friends for 20 years–we kind of saved each other at one point. One of those friends who you might not see for a year but when you do, it all falls into place like *snap the fingers.*

            I hope your Holiday was magical and wonderful!

          • fengshoe1

            It is a devastating video and is what prompted me to get involved. Even forced my 3 kids to sit through so they’re aware.

            So glad you were able to spend some quality time with your friend. So special! Picking up where you left off, with such ease.
            My day was the best in many years. Even went to my best friends later in the evening. We’ve been friends for 30 years. Majickal, indeed!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Wonderful! So glad you had a Majickal Holiday! So did I!

      • TartLemon

        I fell in love with the nature of the Dakotas a few years ago. Dumped my life, packed the car. My cat and I became self imposed homeless people for a month or so. Drove all over every contiguous state west of the Mississippi to see what Mother Nature provided. Fulfilling journey. Couldn’t drive to Alaska because cat could not enter foreign country (Canada) without his papers which were in a box left behind.

        • fengshoe1

          Oh, it is indeed-Creator’s Country! Beautiful. I love the BadLands.
          My service pup and I journeyed there in February, 2010, carrying emergency relief supplies to 2 reservations.. Spent 7 weeks on the ground. I’ve permission to scatter his ashes at Wounded Knee.
          Too bad about Alaska, but you kept the family together.
          Your place sounds full of serenity.! Would love to see photos, some time, of the lake and surrounding beauty.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Joe does have income from his rental properties and he is a construction worker. Teresa is not the only bread winner in the family. The girls attend public schools. However, they have many expensive extracurricular activities.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Joe is a construction worker? Ha-ha-ha-ha! That has to be one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard! Construction worker? Construction worker!
        Dudes hands are better looking & better maintained than mine, ffs!

        • fengshoe1

          LoL-haven’t seen him work since his attempt at making pizza! We did see him behind his desk filled with paper work-all of T’s law suits!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Hey, we saw him restoring the beach house with his crew. You know, the same bunch that did the shoddy work on someone else’s home damaged by Sandy. Modern Era Construction. That firm has disappeared. Now he has G &G Decorative Plasterers. They do dry wall.

          • fengshoe1

            Thanks, West! I had forgotten that!
            Is that the same plaster company T was listed as an officer at?

          • WestCoastFeed

            I think so. I think that she is one of the Gs.

          • fengshoe1

            I’ve also heard that Joey Gorga’s license has expired? How is he still working/building? Or, is he not?

          • WestCoastFeed

            The Franklin Lakes property is for sale with foundation poured already. I dk about his contractor’s license. But he could always just hire a licensed contractor.

          • fengshoe1

            That he can. I jjust wondered as T fans seemed to always bring the license up. Wonder how their new business is going? (Joey and Mel)
            Seemingly most on RHONJ do not earn legit livings.

          • WestCoastFeed

            The paper shredder business? Last I read, Mel said that it was really just a sideline.

          • fengshoe1

            Yes, that’s the one! At least the Gorga’s down-sized and have now moved back to the other home. I really don’t see what any of them do that supports the lifestyle they portray. (We know what Tre/Joe did)

          • Guardian

            I could/can see how a few do but as for the rest . . . (I wondered when the single twin was looking at a seven figure home how she would manage that when she was holed up in her parent’s basement?) No doubt the women are paid through BRAVO but they must also pay agents, have a lawyer or two, keep up appearances, etc., so the amount is eaten into. As for J & M, at least they’ve had the sense to return to their other home.

          • fengshoe1

            Right! Their salaries sound, and are huge, from Bravo. But, after the taxes, agents’ fees etc…really not much left. Where was the twin going to get that money? Her “boyfriend”, Bobby-LMBO! What does she do for work? I forget.
            Yes, I agree about J/M. At least they had sense to move back after the squatter left. 🙂

          • Guardian

            From what I saw on the show, she books charter flights for the wealthy – in other words, pretty much a personal travel agent. Would imagine she is getting alimony and child support but still the mortgage on a house like that? As for B – at the reunion, his teeth were so white I had to grab my sunglasses. I don’t doubt Jim M. re B’s intentions with regard to the twin. He’s in it for the fame and attention – not her. At least I don’t think so. Hope yesterday was wonderful for you and yours!

          • fengshoe1

            Hee, I thought it was Amber that did the travel thing-y. Had a difficult time keeping track of it all, as I barely watched and when I did it was after the initial showing.
            Hah, Bobby and Nene evidently have the same dentist.
            Thank you, I had a wonderfully Majickal day.
            And you? Nice day? I do hope so.
            I really must stop reaching into the dishes filled with candy and grabbing from plates filled with cookies. Yikes!

          • Guardian

            Amber does the commercials for her husband’s loan company – you know, the hair swinging thing! I missed a few episodes this year and have barely watched any of those running now of the other franchises. For me, it’s all gotten so nasty. I had a lovely day – ate too much of course and then had chocolates for “brunch” today. Once a year I cut loose, and this is the time!

          • fengshoe1

            Okay, thanks. Right-Amber and the swingy hair. Lol
            I’m glad you’re cutting loose here. 🙂

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        After those Hurricane Sandy disasters that were publicized regionally on all the news stations (and in news reports in papers and online), I doubt Barney Rubble is getting too many bites. By this time, everyone knows who these scumbags are, which wasn’t the way it was during the time of HS.

        • WestCoastFeed

          Agreed. But Pete would hire him. And so would other contractors for a reduced wage rate.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I disagree West. Other than fambly? I don’t think any reputable company would be willing to sully their name or reputation for Joe Giudice what-so-ever!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Who knows the names of the men subcontractors hire to do their work? That’s how so many undocumenteds get work.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            You may not know his name but he is most def recognizable. I’d tell the foreman/GC either he goes or you ALL go!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            I’m with you, Tiger…..

          • I agree! I think his name is toast everywhere.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Who is this idiot Pete of whom you speak?

          • WestCoastFeed

            His brother.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Ah, thank you. . . a fambly of human roaches. Oh snap–let me apologize to cockroaches everywhere.

          • Yes, Heels! Pete is the same brother that willingly gave his brother (Juicy Joe) his ID so Joe could obtain a fraudulent drivers license.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Hi Doc! Happy Happy! 🙂

            Of course–that genius. I now remember. Those two combined don’t even come up with an average IQ. Morons–both of them. But who other than a total moron would marry Tre-ape?

          • Hi sweetheart! Happy belated Christmas. Hope you had a great day! 🙂

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Thanks honey! I did–incredible. Good friends, good food, excellent wine–it was absolutely wonderful.

            I hope yours was wonderful as well!

          • fengshoe1

            They’re all shady!
            Hah, since Joe called Tre a cu*t, we’ve seen a softer, gentler Joe. Pfft, not buying it. She just tightened the lead.
            He’s still an eejit!

  • WestCoastFeed

    Wendy Feldman has tweeted that Tre will not be a celebrity in prison. She will just be a number.

    • italiano bambino

      LOL complete felon… she’s no paris hilton or martha stuward

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      She’s going to be despised in that prison. Martha Stewart had real talent, made her own real money, and made a mistake that the women in prison could relate to.

      Teresa, in every way, is an inmate that the others will hate: because of the way she portrayed herself as better than EVERYONE, that she has no real talent and that she was allowed at least a taste of the high life that most of them will NEVER get that taste of), and because she is SO self-entitled. That’s just a recipe for disaster. When MS went in, she was really humble and acted like she was no better than anyone. Plus, she IS/WAS a true star with amazing talent.

      Teresa will be despised in that prison. Believe that.

      • Guardian

        Awhile back I read an account of a woman’s time in a minimum security “camp.” She ended up being transferred and thus had experience in two. She said how you are treated has a lot to do with how the guards are treated. Also commented on learning the pecking order, knowing your place, making friends that can help you, avoiding gossip, etc. She said though you are told the rules, there is much you learn on your own. As for the food – horrible. And, she said she was cold in the winter and with no A/C in prisons – hot in the summer. MS went in, did what she had to do and then put it behind her – I admired her for that.

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          Unfortunately for Teresa, she 1) does not ever learn the pecking order (in her pea brain she is always first), 2) she does NOT know her place, 3) she doesn’t know how to make friends–sh really doesn’t. As far as I can tell, Dina is her only friend (and then let’s look at Dina–those two only have each other from what I can see).

          There are STRICT rules in every prison: you are told when you get up, when you brush your teeth, when you shower (in open), when you eat, when you use the toilet (in open), when you can exercise, when you can order from the prison commissary where the biggest ‘treat’ is a cup-o-noodles!

          She’s going to be so screwed because Teresa thinks she’s the one who should be making the rules. And she’s completely unteachable. This is how dumb she is: she won’t even realize that her angry/rebellious streak will end up with her doing MORE time (this is one of my predictions from the reading I did on her).

          I really think she’s screwed.

          • Guardian

            Indeed. And she’s all about control – except with regard to controlling herself. I still have my doubts that she will learn anything. I can’t believe she’s just over a week and change from going in.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Yes!!! It’s so wonderful that her victims might finally have a sense of some kind of justice. I just can’t imagine doing all the work on that monstrosity of a house, expecting a paycheck…..and then…..nothing. And then seeing that house with them living in it, watching them SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, all the while knowing that you can’t pay your rent because you never got paid.

            Those people are SCANDALOUS!

          • Guardian

            Having been burned by dead beat debts, prison for a few was little consolation as I was still stuck with the costs. Going after same is a time consuming, expensive process and in the end you often still don’t get paid.

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            What a blasted BUMMER…(or Bummehrr if you’re French)!

    • I wish Feldman would shut her pie hole. Talk about scorned lover…Geez!!!!!

  • cait

    Ser.6, G(rab)ia, Awfulania & the delightful Demonia were behaving so badly that I wanted to jump through the screen and sort them OUT ! Mom’s face was suffused with anger, though she had a tight smile, so she fed them a treat ! She says in her TH that she used to get so angry but now she is in control ! Flash to table tipping and hitting Andy !

    • italiano bambino

      Demonia Lol great discription

    • TartLemon

      None of the way Teresa tries to joke about the way her little hooligans act makes her look in control. It makes her look like an encouraging Mother of gangsters in training.

    • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

      I’m bettin’ that her new BFF’s in Prison will flip some tables on her (double entendre-make it whatever you want to make it into).

  • italiano bambino

    I hope they bring back danielle..

    • fengshoe1

      Hello Bambino!
      Danielle and Kim G.!

      • italiano bambino

        oh yes kim g she’s fab for the show.
        I put Danielle and Camielle as the BEST villians of the franchise..

        • fengshoe1

          Indeed! Villains they are!

    • TartLemon

      IMO, Danielle would serve no purpose now. She would for the past few seasons when Teresa was still being filmed in all her faux wealth glory. Now, Danielle wouldn’t really have a purpose, IMO.

      Kim G would fit in well to the storyline. She knows all the players pasts and doesn’t mind calling them out.

      • italiano bambino

        What i like about danielle she was really good of ruffling feathers and that alone work.

  • fengshoe1

    Sort of OT-
    Does anyone have scoop on who Joe knocked to the ground? I think it came out at the sentencing….not entirely sure, but each time I have even a remote amount of sympathy for him-he seems to accept his fate, at least- I recall what type of person he really is.

    • WestCoastFeed

      You mean the story about knocking some woman into a mailbox something like 20 years ago?

      • cait

        If true, not fair !

      • fengshoe1

        Yes. I wan’t sure how long ago it happened. Thanks

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      IIRC, it was a photographer, no?

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Thought it was one of the photogs at his DMV hearing he knocked down.

        • WestCoastFeed

          Oh, that story. There is some video tape on that one. In fact a couple of videos. I remember some kind of confrontation. But not that if got physical.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            He did get physical. That part I remember. Just not sure which occasion it was & whom he knocked over. But yes I remember people saying that he was beyond stupid cause it was all caught on camera.

        • fengshoe1

          Thanks, TL. Think that was it.

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          Feng and Tiger–that’s what I remember!

      • fengshoe1

        Thank you. Couldn’t remember.

  • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

    I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas or whatever Holiday you celebrate. I’m a pagan but I love a beautiful Christmas tree, candles–and all that jazz.

    As for Teresa–I cannot stress this enough: she is not capable of really ‘getting it’ because in her mind, she believes she will be spared the pokey and she will continue to believe this until she gets driven off in the prison bus. I’m serious. That it has even TAKEN her this long to consider these REALLY GRAVE matters is deplorable for a mother who is going to jail. She’s been so self-absorbed (her narcissism really knows NO bounds) that she hasn’t even really considered how this is affecting her “dortahs.” She deluded herself into believing that they were completely blind and innocent to the fact that she’s a convicted felon–and these aren’t babies or toddlers we’re talking about. These are kids who go to school–with parents who read the parents–the KIDS (for crying out loud) read the papers.

    Not only is Teresa that biggest piece of narcissistic, delusional, self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing POS, she is the WORST mother on this planet (and perhaps beyond if intelligent life exists beyond us)–because ANYONE who would not prepare for those girls for what is SURE to be a very traumatic and heartbreaking separation is incapable of being anything but a POS.

    I despise her–which surprises me–because I don’t know her from Adam. Yet what I loathe is that she hurt so many people (including her bratty kids) and has felt absolutely no need to apologize, own her CRIMES (not mistakes) and try to make amends and that she doesn’t give an EFF that she did.

    She’s also stupid–and I HATE stupid people. I know it’s wrong but I can’t help it. She could have played this in a way that she *might* have had a career after her stint–but her excessive arrogance and throwing shade and blame to everyone from the judge, the lawyers, to Jesus. Christ himself blew any chance she might have had for a comeback. People are truly disgusted.

    So stick a fork in the forehead challenged chimp. She’s DONE been BAR-BEE-KEWED!

    • TartLemon

      Pagan? I prefer ‘surfer on the rhythms of the Universe’. I did some reading last night and found the Earth can sustain 10 BILLION humans. We’ll reach that by 2050. My ‘instrument’ will have deteriorated beyond repair by then, but not those of my grandchildren who I now hold and cuddle.

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        Tart–I have to say–I adore that (and plan to “borrow” that nice little turn of a phrase). “Surfers on the rhythm of the universe.”

        AWESOME!

        Although when I do think about what our grandchildren and great grandchildren will have to endure because of OUR mistakes–it’s heartbreaking.

    • fengshoe1

      Hee…Christmas originated fro the Pagans, but I don’t need to tell you thaat. Actually, most religions have stories of a boy being born, this time of year, to a virgin. Really fascinating…I’ve a book with the many tales.

      • WestCoastFeed

        The rebirth of the sun every year at this time. Of course it is a common story.

        • fengshoe1

          Yes. Recognizing the warmth shall return.

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        Exactly. The spirit of the pagans (tis not a religion) have been around forever!

        • fengshoe1

          Truly more a Tradition.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Oh yes–definitely. A way of keeping your spirit balanced. And of course, other things….

          • fengshoe1

            Yes. Exactly. Even my many Lakota friends call their beliefs Tradition or the Red Path.
            XO

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Yes, I am familiar….I told you of my friends in Crow Nation. BTW, I am going to a sweat on NYE. I am SOOOOOO honored to be invited to this ceremony.

            I’m flying to Montana on Tuesday–can’t wait.

          • fengshoe1

            Heels, what an honor!
            You’ll get to see your Chief friend?
            Oh….please let me know all about it. Do you still have my email?

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            I believe I do–but I have switched computers. Do you still have mine? If so, please send me an email because then I shall know that I have yours.

            Frank (the Chief) will be there. But my closest friend, Jim (the Medicine Man) passed away. But he did so with all his loving friends and family by his side. That man truly saved my life at one point. I miss him endlessly.

          • fengshoe1

            Oh, Heels, so sorry. Am trying to refresh my memory. Weren’t you able to spend, or speak, with Jim before his passing? I’m aware of how much he meant and means to you. I know it is not the same as having on the material plane, but you have him guiding you should you need him.
            I do have your email, still. I’ll shoot you a quickie so you can share all about the sweat with me.
            I’m working with a young couple from Pine “Ridge currently. We met at The United Nations during “The Truth Tour” Love them. When we pick up emailing I’ll share more.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Yes, I actually got to see Jim–right before he passed and I was lucky enough that he was cogent while I was there and we had a lovely goodbye. Hard to explain but it was beautiful. He’d been in much pain for a long time–and while it is hard to lose people, it’s harder to see them suffer. Remember I told you that he was one of the scariest looking people I ever met at first sight (although that all vanished within talking to him for just a few minutes–that’s how beautiful his soul was). When he was about to pass, he looked so beautiful to me. I think that’s when our soul takes over any physical properties….although I should stop discussing this for fear of offending others who may have dissimilar beliefs about passing onto the next realm (or whatever one calls it).

            I am very happy I had a chance to thank Jim for the many truly life-changing gifts he bestowed upon me.

            That’s wonderful that you are working with this young couple. This is important work– and it is our giving back is what makes our lives truly meaningful. I shall tell you all about my NYE sweat when I return from it. My husband and I normally have a very small NYE party–but this was an invite I would not have missed for the world. I am so blessed to have had so many remarkable people pass my path.

          • fengshoe1

            Your last time spent with Jim is remarkable. I’ve a strong vision of this.
            I understand your desire to perhaps not share more. We can talk via email.
            Will your husband join in the sweat?
            Yes, the young couple…they are so wise for their tender ages and wish to leave the reservation a better place …”for the next seven generations”
            Baby steps, but still any progress is good.
            I am so excited for you!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            WOW! Just WOWWWW!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Hey y’all if L. Ron what-zis-name could get that classified as a religion, who knows…I say whatever works for the person. If they believe and they’re good to go, then it’s okay by me.
            Sh*t Howdy, I bet some folks may think that genuflecting to a pic of Kim Kartrashian works as a “religion” for them.
            Who’s to say…?

          • fengshoe1

            LMBO! Genuflecting to Kim K.
            I’m with you, Lady! If it works for and causes no other harm, have at it.

          • fengshoe1

            I will say, however, LRon seems to have caused much harm to so many. Mysterious deaths, folks missing, and being shunned or ordered to not speak with family. More cult like.

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            D’accord.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ha-ha! According to some we all pray at the altar of Jim Marchese anyway, so… LOL!
            As long as you don’t hurt anyone. I could care less.
            I mean look at the Pastafarians. They are now classified as a religious group. FFS!
            But ya know, whatever floats ya boat. Just don’t PUSH your beliefs on me & DON’T tell me I’m going to die a cruel & painful death or have some horrible misfortune come upon me & my family just because I don’t agree or choose to practice your religion. Other than that it’s all good.

          • Guardian

            All of this on this subject is why I like this site – people can disagree without name calling and taking hurtful stances. If they do, they get called out and usually things get resolved. I hope it stays that way.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            I’m with you–whatever floats your boat, makes you feel centered and balanced–whatever it is for each individual that helps them deal with the messy and complicated platter of LIFE that we are all given–hey, it’s up to them and who are any of us to judge. I say live and let live. I never criticize anyone’s spiritual beliefs–as who am I to know what works for each person? Just as I expect no one to criticize my own beliefs. We are all the earth’s children and we are all far more similar than different. We just need to always concentrate on (all of) our similarities–and not our differences. If we did that, there would be more love and less war. And who could be against that?

      • Birdie11

        Gosh Feng…I don’t believe it to be a story…and many others don’t either. I don’t want to argue religion, but may want to be careful to be sensitive to other’s faiths. Belief is one thing…stating as fact is another.

        • fengshoe1

          Greetings, Birdie!
          My deepest apologies. My intent was/is never to disparage others beliefs or religions.
          I’m sorry you took offense. I included my own strong beliefs in the post.
          Merely meant how fascinated I am/was at reading the similarities and common threads that are woven through many religions.

          • Birdie11

            OK, no problem.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Oh Birdie the debates you & I could have. LOL!
          As you know I was raised Roman Catholic & attended Catholic school for 12 years.
          Please I don’t mean to offend, but I am really curious. Did you attend Catholic school? If so, how did they handle science in your school? Was it a form of creationism that was taught? Cause we had science & religion classes but they never agreed. Never bothered me but I must say it was a bit confusing at times. Especially when I was younger. LOL!
          Like the bible says the earth is only 6000 years old, but science proves otherwise. How did your school handle it?

          • Birdie11

            Hey Tiger! I don’t really debate religion…LOL….and nope…no catholic background at all. I came to faith as a young adult and never looked back…it makes me who I am. Hope you are well!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            As they say never speak on or debate about politics or religion, right? LOL!
            I’m good Hon. Thanks so much for asking. Hope you had a great Christmas full of joy & happiness. Good for you Birdie. I am glad it makes you who you are. I happen to think that you are a very special lady. A kind, sweet & loving soul.
            I applaud your convictions Birdie. Faith can be a wonderous, uplifting thing or it can be fleeting when times get tough. All that matters is that you are happy & I am happy that you are happy.
            & as Martha would say that is always a “good” thing.

            I will have to remember to ask Twi if she had a similar experience. She went to Catholic school. I don’t remember it being as big an issue like it is now.Like wanting to change books & not teach certain things based in science. They taught both. I guess it was always explained as one is based in faith & one is based on science. That’s just the way it was.
            My thoughts were more about the controversy between science & religion than religion itself. I have no problem with religion, per say. Of course there are some things I don’t agree with. But I can tell you that I’m not a believer in organized religion because of my own experiences with it, but I would never fault or insult anyone because they did believe. At least never intentionally. & I sincerely hope I did not offend you Birdie. Like I said I was more curious how the subjects of religion & science were handled in a parochial school environment like I had because there is such controversy about it now..

          • Birdie11

            Sure, I understand. I can’t imagine you ever offending me…we are old pals! (:

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Aww, glad. Thank you Birdie. You, Doc, Naws, Twi & Tre’s were the first ones to greet me & make me feel welcome here. I would never want to hurt you, any of you, in any way. Big hugs Honey!

      • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

        Scholars are saying the actual birth was at some other time of the year…if modern times agree to this time of the year, then I guess it’s a green light for go, ay.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          It was actually June or July I believe. According to the calendar.

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            (Shhhh…don’t tell anybody, but I think you are right for recent numerous scholarly opinions of late on the timing of the birth.)

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Okay Tre’s we will keep it on the down-low! LMBO!
            Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

          • WestCoastFeed

            The planetarium at Griffith Park in Los Angeles used to do a show this time of year. If I remember correctly it was based on an astronomical conjunction of planets or maybe the occurrence of a supernova that would have the star of Bethlehem occurring in March.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I’ve heard both. March/April & or June/July as the most common answers. But it was definitely not December.

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          That’s what I have read as well.

        • fengshoe1

          Yes, scholars have been saying that for some time. I really didn’t mean to offend anyone and not quite sure what I stated as fact that wasn’t but…As far as I know, historically, factually what I said is accurate. And, my group suffered atrocities at the hand of Christians, back in the burning times. Over 9 million slaughtered. Mostly women and children.

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            I know that this group that I so adore offends a lot of folks…But I am a Python-ite.
            Monty Python in Search of the Holy Grail, Life of Brian, Meaning of Life…yeah I own them all, I have books, I have vinyl I have discs. I’m just hopeless!
            And the Pythons literally saw “zero” as sacred. Oh damn, I’m going to burn in Hell…well… I don’t really think that hell can be much worse than what we’ve got going on in some parts of this country and other parts of this planet. Ah sh*t, there I go again.
            ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH! Bring he the Holy Hand Granade!

          • fengshoe1

            Love the Python Holy Grail.
            Um, no, you’re not hopeless. Not in my opinion, anyway>
            I be liking you more and more, each day. 🙂

          • WestCoastFeed

            Watch Out!!! Here comes the Spanish Inquistion!!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            NOHHHHH body Expects the Spanish Inquisition…Our Chief Weapons are Fear and Surprise….uh Our Chief Weaponry is Fear and…..ughhh….Amongst our Weaponry…is FEAR, SURPRISE, and almost Fanatical Devotion to the Pope….Ahhhh…I’ll come in again….
            Ni!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Fetch the cushions!!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Put Her innnnnn….The Comfy Chair! Duh Duh Duh Duhhhhn!

            And the Rack! (Then they tie a cooling rack for cookies and such on her chest.)

          • WestCoastFeed

            And the comfy chair!!!

      • MorningYawn

        I think of it as the ultimate marketing job… Bringing the pagan together with Christian! They were looking for followers and they sold them for sure! (I was raised Catholic so not a slam, just what I think)

    • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

      Sing it HEELS!

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        ” ♬ ♫♪♬ La La la la la ♬ ♫♪♬ La La la la la ♬ ♫♪♬”

        🙂

  • TartLemon

    No way in the World would a laborers wages support Joe, his 4 girls and that lifestyle. FORENSIC ACCOUNTING will monitor every ¢ he makes/spends.

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      The IRS is going to have one microscope up their a-holes and another one down their throat.

      Word.

      • Guardian

        Forever.

        • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

          Hey Guardian it’s TGtP I put up a new Avatar pic – Nene in her new wig.
          Warmest Wishes for this Holiday Season to YOU!
          The fambly will still be paying off their debts if the debts haven’t been satisfied when Tre and Pudgey Boy say hello to St. Peters years down the line from now.

          • Guardian

            You too doll! Napped off too much sauce, butter, chocolate, frosted cookies, etc., this afternoon and just came back to my fave site and peeps a little while ago. Mind is still foggy – clog those arteries and this is what ya get! Love the pic. Oohhhh that new wig . . . ode to the Beatles circa the early 60’s?

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            If you get a chance take a look at Italian Bambino’s rendition pic’s a couple of threads ago. I especially like the hut!

          • Guardian

            It’s great.

      • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

        wh Wh WHuh, Whord is “Clueless” for the world of hurt she and the jerk are gonna be feeling for decades!
        Heels, I put up a new AvatarPic/ Nene’s cute, ay! It’s Tre’s Going to Prison.

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          I saw!!!! I love it. And thanks for telling me your new SN! Wonderful!

    • WestCoastFeed

      Nope. that’s why the creative bank and mortgage loans applications.

    • Joe and the girls will be evicted from the marble mausoleum when Teresa goes to prison, that’s why she scrambling now to find a stable home for the girls now.

      • italiano bambino

        maybe that house teresa and gia we’re looking last season you know teresa was downsizing 😉

      • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

        Uhp…Too late….

        (It’s Tre’s Going to Prison with a new Avatar Pic of Nene and her new wig.)

  • cait

    Cafflic Church not the problem, it’s some of the moronic clergy, who are full of their own importance ! My Ma asked to see our Priest, at the end. He said he was busy, to get the hosp. chaplain, as it was his job ! Turns out it was no secret that he was with his sig. other in Wales, and most of the in-crowd, at church, knew of this ! We got a Priest, that we knew well, and Ma seemed peaceful at the end !

    • WestCoastFeed

      I am taking heart that the new pope is fully aware of the shortcomings of much of the clergy. Things may change. Perhaps even the women will get more say in clerical affairs.

      • fengshoe1

        Oh, West. The new pope has re-instilled my hope of a brighter peaceful future. He really seems to “get it”. I’ve so much respect for the new pope!

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Ditto! Pope Frank is da BOMB!
          Sorry if I offend.

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            What I think is offensive is pic’s of these women who love to show off their upper deck wearing skimpy thin white shirts or crop tops>>>>>> like Porsha or Rhianna or whomever and they have very dark areolas.
            Come on ladies (did I use that term too loosely here), I can’t believe that y’all really think that men are THAT turned on by that stuff. And they wonder why folks start describing them as an unsavory female of ill repute.

          • fengshoe1

            LMBO at upper deck! You’re a riot!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            I’m working on bringing some levity and jocularity…well…just because.

          • Guardian

            Because that is what is so good about this site – fun. By the way, when does G’s concert start tonight – anyone know?

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            West may know that answer.
            She’s like the guru of an amazing amount of interesting stuff!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            7 p.m. ET. Right about now.

          • Guardian

            Hi T – tried to get a reply off to you the other night but ended up with computer problems till later into the next day. Hope you are doing better – you were so out of sorts and I was concerned. As for the 3KT – I laughed when I read about the $60 VIP pass. I swear.

          • fengshoe1

            Hee…I tried to talk some artists friends into going….as expected they laughed. They begged me to stop the video, too!
            We’re late. Wonder how many will actually show up?!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Howdy hey G. Hope you had a lovely holiday.
            Aww. Thanks Hon. I go off a bit, lose my ish & then I’m fine. LOL!
            Try to always temper myself with humor but on occasion I just go off! LOL! Heck I AM off! But I have a legit excuse. Cracked my head open when I was little so ya know… LMBO!

          • Guardian

            I did and hope you did as well. We all have off days but I have an inkling of the heartache the holidays can bring too which doesn’t help. With seven siblings, got my head cracked many a time.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks G. It was a good day. Holidays are rough for me too. My Mom passed a few days before Christmas in 2006 & it’s never been the same. November, right before Thanksgiving, is my Mom’s birthday & my sister’s birthday too. (She passed at age 29 of breast cancer with 3 small kids.), & then come January it’s the anniversary of my son’s Father’s passing.
            So yeah, I get a bit depressed & testicle, oops testy, I meant testy, around the holidays sometimes.

          • fengshoe1

            Oh, Tiger, I am so sorry to hear of all the holidays can bring up, for you.
            sorry about your mom and sister, and your son’s dad. So much. So sad.
            I lost my dad in June of 06. My baby sister, to cancer, at age 18, 1983 and my beloved brother, age 40, to cardio myopathy sp?16 years ago.,
            When these things happen around the holidays it can just add to what, is for some, a sad time.
            Even though I believe they are still with me, spiritually, it is just not the same as having them on the physical plane.
            Wishing you have some serenity.

          • Guardian

            In there with you both – so many losses too soon, too close together and too close to the holidays. Miss them constantly and always have sadness at this time of year along with the cheer. Just not the same.

          • fengshoe1

            Oh, Guardian, you as well? 🙁
            So sorry. We just trudge ahead, I suppose. No way around it, only through it.
            Are you on facebook, by chance?
            I’ve decided to watch “The Unsinkable Molly Brown” tonight. Starts at 10:30.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            So sorry for your losses G. It can be soo tough. So overwhelming at times. Especially at this time of year. Big hugs to you G. I wish you peace & healing. (ɔ◔‿◔)ɔ ♥

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks so much for your kind words also Feng. You, Guardian & I have similar experiences I see. I am so very sorry for both of your losses. Yours & Guardians. It’s hard. You manage to move forward but some days it’s just really hard to not go down that path of sadness & anger.

            It probably sounds funny but I remember an episode of Little House on the Prairie from when I was a little kid. It stuck with me all this time. It was the one with Patrica Neal called “Remember Me.”
            Patricia is playing a woman, a Mom, who is dying & at the end, she tells her children this little poem. (Sort of a poem.) Anyway it goes something like this…

            Remember me with smiles & laughter. For that is how I will remember you.
            If you can only remember me with tears & sorrow, then please, don’t remember me at all.

            I always try to remember the smiles & the laughter, but some days are easier than others & the tears just come.

            I wish you both peace & healing.

          • fengshoe1

            Many thanks for your kind words and sharing the memory from ‘Little House’
            Some time I’ll share a poem, with you, that I read at my sister’s funeral.
            Off the top of my head…
            ‘Call me by the same familiar name you once used.
            While I am out of sight, I’ve only slipped way into the next room….’
            All I remember off the top, but you get the gist.

            Thinking of you,TL.
            May we find comfort and peace in those we are still surrounded by.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks Feng. If you remember it all, please post it. I found this one & read it at my Mom’s funeral.

            God Saw You Getting Tired

            God saw you getting tired
            and a cure was not to be
            so he put his arms around you
            and whispered,
            “Come to Me”

            With tearful eyes we watched you
            and saw you pass away
            and although we love you dearly
            we could not make you stay.

            A Golden heart stopped beating
            hard working hands at rest.
            God broke our hearts to prove to us
            He only takes the best.

          • fengshoe1

            That is absolutely beautiful, TL! I weep.
            I’ll post it, probably tomorrow dear.
            Have a wonderful rest of the night. Talk soon. 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Night Feng. Thanks so much for sharing with me, with all of us. Get some rest. Sleep sweet & have a lovely evening

          • fengshoe1

            Thanks, TL. I’m so open book…hope I don’t share too much.
            For you I wish, sweet dreams;deep sleep. ‘Till next time…

          • fengshoe1

            Hurry! I’ll pick you up. Darn…should of planned this one better. It’s about a 4 hour drive to Jersey, from Boston. Then add several hours for me the crippled person driving. lol
            We can try for sentencing day, if you like?!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            That was 3 months ago….
            You soh funneee!

          • fengshoe1

            haha…laughing at myself-thyroid fuzz brain.
            I meant the day they haul her bottom in. Thanks for your help. 🙂

          • Guardian

            Jesus take the wheel! Sorry, couldn’t resist.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            FOTFLOLPIMP’s!

          • Guardian

            Oh TL – you lost me with this. I’m not too up on all of this. Just hope I didn’t offend anyone – especially God!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Falling on the floor, laughing out loud, pissin’ in my pants.

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            I think it was Tom Waits that said…and I paraphrase…”There’s no such thing as the Devil…it’s just God when he’s Drunk!” Bah Dah Buhmp!
            Oh, Hell…here I come….

            Y’all know that we’re all stalkers and trolling each other…right!

          • Guardian

            Thanks hon! I have to get better at all of this. I need a tutorial. (Among sooooo much else!)

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Yeah…me too!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Urban dictionary G. My “go-to” when I too am lost! (>‿◠)✌
            Or I just call my kid & ask him to explain. When he’s done laughing, he usually does. LOL!

            http://www.urbandictionary.com/

          • Guardian

            Oh this is just what I need/can use! Yes, asking for an explanation – always snickers, eye rolling, sighs, etc. Thank you!

          • Guardian

            By the way – going off the thread here but when all were commenting on cleavage, I’d like to know how the whole butt cleavage – or hint thereof -thing got to be in as well? Used to be the domain of plumbers, now everything is plunging!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ahh yes. Sometime in the 80’s when thongs, (Or as my Mom used to call them, butt-floss.), were first being brought out into mainstream, it suddenly became “COOL” for people to see your undies. I never understood it. Don’t think I ever will. But I remind my son everyday that he used to cry hysterically if anyone could see any part of his underwear. Even just the band. He would flip & demand a belt & now? Well now I tell him to pull his pants up! LOL!

          • Guardian

            Those I was around then weren’t into it so I missed a lot of what started where we are today. That, and I was working constantly. I bought a cheap thong once just out of curiosity. Ewwww! I don’t get it but as I have taken note, I’d freeze with what I see now everywhere. Had a couple of nephews who went through the pants down stage – now they laugh about it but then it was always a battle for their parents.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Oh I am sooo waiting for those days to arrive. LOL!
            But, (Or should that be butt! LOL), he’s a good kid with a great heart, so if that’s the worst of it? I’ll take it.

          • Guardian

            And that is what matters most. We all went through our phases and crazes and know it was always hard on our parents. My machine is starting to complain for some reason so if I go silent you’ll know why!

          • fengshoe1

            HaHaHaHa!
            Perfect!

          • fengshoe1

            I can’t stop laughing.
            Have a few things to do and don’t wish to leave here.

          • Guardian

            I have things to do as well but hey, it can wait – right?! Laughter is the best medicine.

          • fengshoe1

            Indeed!
            My pup will still be stinky tomorrow. 🙂

          • Guardian

            OK – but come back when you’re done and pup is smelling sweet!

          • fengshoe1

            Heck, I’m leaving her till tomorrow! Hah!
            Only other thing is phone calls. Those, I’ve some time with time diff in SD.
            You’re stuck with me. 🙂

          • Guardian

            Good! I got in most of my calls late last night and today. Everything is charging up. Pup will be happy for the reprieve I would imagine. My dogs could always sense when it was bath time and would hide. Found one in the laundry basket once. Another one under the blankets.

          • fengshoe1

            Oh, glad you’re caught up on calls. Funny how dogs can sense. Hah…just let her out and put the wet wipes on the counter. She actually gave me a great side-eye. I figure i’ll wet wipe wash her tonight and buy a few days. I’m back in bed, with laptop and a brownie, with peppermint ice-cream, and hot fudge. *note to self-at least do face yoga later*

          • Guardian

            Move over! Oh, I love treating myself to times like that too. It really is those simple pleasures that make all else bearable.

          • fengshoe1

            Yes. We have to remember to be kind to ourselves. I’m going to light some incense next and a few more candles.
            AATT and ambiance. 😉

          • Guardian

            Sure do! Back to the old T – must say have thought about her youngest child and remember when she was upset when T was crying in an episode. How is a five year old suppose to process all of this?

          • fengshoe1

            Were it me, I would of sought the advice of a professional to see how best to explain, age appropriately, to the kids.
            Even Victoria Gotti told Tre she had to tell them the truth. C’mon…telling then she’s away at college. Someday they’ll all know the truth and I fear they will resent her for not telling them.

          • Guardian

            Yes – I agree. As for telling them the truth – it would be T’s version of the truth and we all know how that goes. College, camp, a long “time out,” – the day will come when they will be older and questioning it all. One thing to avoid the questions of a child, but your child as an adult is another matter. And, so much can happen while she is gone – the house could be lost, other legal issues could come up, illnesses (or worse) with the g-parents, so much. Their lives are going to be in a state of flux for a long time. I would say they should get professional help for all of them – individually and as a family.

          • fengshoe1

            I totally agree, Guardian. They all need help. Teresa was so excited that the school would be pulling Gia out of gym, once a week. That’s a start, but far from what is most likely necessary.

          • Guardian

            I think it is a matter of getting the “right” help too. Kudos to the school but it also requires a certain training that might be lacking with the help the school can provide. I have a feeling the road is going to get a whole lot bumpier for all of them.

          • fengshoe1

            Yes. I don’t even think the school was Tre’s idea. The school approached Gia.
            I agree….bumpier roads for years to come.

          • Guardian

            My machine is locking up and wants to run scans – extra security features are great – sometimes. So, like it or not, I have to sign off. Pleasant, relaxing evening all and sweet dreams!

          • fengshoe1

            Aw…Sweet dreams; deep sleep.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Night G. Sleep well, get some rest & have a lovely evening! Ttys.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            D’oh! Little speed demon here! (>‿◠)✌
            I’ll be waiting anyways Feng. Never turn down a free ride to go hassle that felon!

          • fengshoe1

            Haha->speed demon. We’ll firm up plans over next few days. I’ll leave 4, Jan and pick ya up, toss you the keys and we’re off!

          • fengshoe1

            Great! I so enjoy the conviviality here!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Great Word – conviviality!

          • fengshoe1

            Reminiscent of the feelings here.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I said it too. Just the other day Tre’s. That pic of Lisa Wu? Everytime I see that woman her areolas are exposed. WTH? I got my own. Don’t need or want to see yours. Cover that chit up woman! Buy some clothes that fit! Sheesh!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            BAMM!

          • fengshoe1

            ITA!
            Haha, the only offense I take is when folks say my beliefs are wrong and theirs are the only truth. No worries, here, TL!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            I look at it this way…sideways and upside down.
            Then in my own head I’m thinkin’…”So you think I’m going to burn in hell for the rest of whatever because I don’t believe your stuff! Well, if I don’t think like you do then it’s your script… not my script. Maybe there is no damnation in hell in my script…so naa naa naa.”
            And I am cordial enough to listen, period.
            Was that rude of me to think that?

          • fengshoe1

            I agree. If it’s not my belief it doesn’t pertain to me. Right?
            I’m not arrogant enough to say my way is the only and right way. I like to believe we can coexist with many paths to the Divine.
            I accept prayers from all walks. 😉

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Well Slap my rear and then let’s play Patty Cakes.
            I sort of think that many fanatics are pretty up tight folks. Maybe they’re workin’ too hard to sell their product for some…reason.

          • fengshoe1

            “Patty cake, patty cake-baker’s man…”
            I think you’re onto something. 😉

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Hey, GREAT STUFF comes out o’ that oven!

          • fengshoe1

            Feel free to send the baked goods my way, or better yet, I’ll be out! 😉

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Did someone say Patty-Cake?

          • fengshoe1

            Literally LOL-ing!
            XO

          • WestCoastFeed

            Thanks, Tigerlily. One of my favorites!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Me too West! Love it! That & the “Sad Cat”, “Sad Dog” Diary vids!
            They are my faves too! Hysterical. Love them!
            Enjoy!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Wonderful!!! Those were new to me

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I just love them. My hubby & I go line for line with them, doing narrations for the dog & cat! We crack each other up!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            That ^^^^ was Freakin’ Holy Sparkle Farkle Fantastic!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            The second you condemn me for not having the “correct” beliefs is the second I walk away!
            (That is if you’re lucky & I’m not in the mood to dog you & rebut you with facts! LOL!)

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Yeah, I get in trouble with that too.
            One of my standard comments is that “My dog and cats have just as much of a Soul/Spirit as that tree over there.”
            Whoops!

          • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

            Tiger, you know it’s me right Tre’s Going to Prison – TGtP.
            I thought this pic looked like Nene with her new uh…Whig!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yes Tre’s I know. LOL! Besides there’s always the Spanish Inquisition!
            & nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
            Poke her with the soft cushions!!!

        • Ben_Dover

          Popa! Popa!

      • Ben_Dover

        The Church can teach a lot of Presbyterian some lessons in actions versus words. I have not seen them deny anyone, including those who renounced the Church earlier in life. They are the least bureaucratic in simple, meaningful tasks. The tasks that matter in everyday life.

      • TartLemon

        I’m not Catholic, Christian or otherwise, but absolutely adore Pope Frank (as Bill Maher calls him). He’s got the guts to actually LEAD.

    • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

      Cait, I changed my avatar Pic to look like Nene in her new wig. It’s Tre’s Going to Prison.
      Anyway, it seems, that the first Priest that you asked for your Mom must a been sittin’ on a stick and he just couldn’t get free to honor your sweet Mom! Waz up wit dat!
      Love YOU Girl…Stay Warm and Cozy and Fortified!

    • Ben_Dover

      The Catholic Church was beyond wonderful when my mum was in hospice and when she was ready to pass. Even thought she had converted to Lutheran, she wanted a priest and ended up with three devoted Fathers who checked in and prayed with her. Regardless of the stodgy image the Church holds, they were by far the most responsive in dropping everything to help and be there for final blessings.

      • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

        What a Great Share!
        Thanks for the smiles and tears of sweetness you brought to my eyes!

      • FTLHousewife

        I hope you find comfort in knowing your mom’s wishes were honored. It’s a blessing.

  • Karma

    If I were facing prison time I’d be shit scared too. As for Gia wanting to live with one of her 3kt friends i don’t believe that Gia has always said that she’ll be helping her dad look after her younger sisters.

    As for ROL I don’t take their acticles seriously they have published lies in the last & it seems their “sources” aren’t very reliable

    • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

      Sounds reasonable to me!

    • fengshoe1

      Hello, Karma.
      I thought we actually heard Gia say herself she’ll be helping Joe?! She said it to Tre.

      • Except now Gia wants to be a STAR!!! Just like a kid her age..The teens probably cooked this up, wonder if that kids Mom has heard their plan? Tre you are one dumb italian NJ girl!!!

      • Karma

        Yeah hun you’re right Gia definitely did say she’d help her dad look after the girls she said it on air in one of the earlier episodes of season just finished finished that’s why I don’t believe the rumor or stor

      • Karma

        Hi hun yes you’re right Gia did say To her mom not to worry she’ll be helping her dad with the younger girls she’s a mature young lady just hope she stays that way not follow in her parents footsteps as you all probably guessed I am a Tre fan but I’m not blind to her errors I always give people a second chance if she or Joe do this again well they’ve lost me as a fan

  • BuckJohnson

    The reason why she is so paranoid about the phone and such is because she is doing shady stuff about money and stuff. Hell I still believe that story about their house being raided, they didn’t come out and flatly deny it. I bet someone either ratted them out or they overheard them on phone.

    • TGtP – Nene’s New Wig

      The ring around her collar is starting to get smaller and tighter. At this point, I believe that almost anything may be brewing in that brain of hers.

  • Debbie

    I CANNOT understand why her and Joe have not make other living arrangements before now?!?! They know it is just a matter of time before the government seizes their home and belongings, but still refuse to face reality. The judge gave Teresa PLENTY of time to make this transition and she has done nothing to make sure her daughters have an affordable roof over their heads for the next 15 months. How is she going to feel when she is locked up and Joe and the girls are kicked out of the only home they have known?!? I would have went out and rented a MUCH smaller home to ensure my children were not homeless while being locked up!! Once again, Teresa and Joe get my vote for most delusional, self centered parents of 2014.

    • FTLHousewife

      I’m sure this has been on Tre’s mind since the sentence was handed down. This article seems to do a lot of speculation so I don’t assume the idea of custody hasn’t been resolved. I’m guessing her parents are going to step in quite a bit. Unfortunately I’m sure Juicy will be more than happy to abdicate his parental rights for freedom, even if it’s for 15 months. It’s sad all around. My heart breaks for the kids and even for Teresa.

      • Her Dad is near death & her Mom must be old & sick as well…Tre burned her bridges with everyone like the Lauritas, Manzos, Gorgas she should call on the state of NJ Children’s services…Yre has been in denial most of her life & loves it there…Wake up Ms. Cookbook, wine, hair maven you are no one with nobody behind you.

        • donna

          Too bad she burnt those bridges cuz, they would’ve stepped up to the plate! Lauritas, Gorgas, Wakiles, Manzos, everybody would’ve stepped up & helped! But hey, what can we say?

          • Guardian

            I think they would still step up but I don’t think she will turn to any of them. I think it kills T to see all of them going on with their lives. I also don’t think she really gets what Jac & her husband have to deal with in their care of their young son.

          • donna

            No she don’t, it ain’t happening to her so, she don’t care! She has four beautiful healthy dorters so Nick is Jac’s problem!

      • Mommyof4qtpies

        My heart breaks for the kids. Teresa did this to herself. I have zero sympathy for her! What’s sad is that she chose material things over her children.

      • LeoNotLion

        Ding ding ding! This whole article is based solet on speculation! How do all of you know that Tre has not prepared herself? I am shocked that so many post such comments based on “sources” & not facts ! Do u read your own comments? Wow! Some write vicous posts re kids & it’s easy for one to sit there making nasty posts.. Just because it’s not all over blogs doesn’t mean that Tre is NOT prepared? Really? People are speculating she’s going to claim insanity based on what? I like dealing w facts rather than sources esp after reading Feds raided Tres home… All retracted but AAtT and they stand by their story while crickets.. Crickets..crickets… Where is the follow up or what happened ? Nothing more on that subject due to false story! It’s such a shame that people can write whatever they want w/out truth to it & people run w it? I am just confused as to what pleasure one gets posting such hatred about some reality star knowing absolutely nothing about subjject?
        I m sorry but mant here sound so cruel & must live perfect life! Seriously? You really think Tre has NOT thought about Her kids? Come on !

    • pla502az

      What would be affordable when u have no income (or good credit) and u owe 14 million $$ to creditors?? Arrange whatever housing you can. Plead with relatives for help. Think about someone other yourself. And by the was, both tre n joe have known since they plead guilty in march 2014 that they were going to prison. So they have had 9 months to make arrangements. DUMB ASSES

  • DLister

    F*ck Radar (Bullshit) Online. What’s reasonable to assume: Teresa is scared witless, her kids know and are scared witless, her hubby Joe is more drunk than ever. This “reality” has actually hit them. The one I feel for is little Audriana, who will be crying “where’s my mommy?” at only four/five years old. That sucks major ass. I’m 48 and still have my mommy — thank God, and I still cry over losing my daddy 3 years ago …. even tho little Audrie will get her mommy back … she’s only not even five.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      You know D, I was noticing the other day how people dog Apollo & say he’s a lousy Dad & he sure wasn’t thinking of his kids when he did his crimes, but yet those same people don’t seem to feel that it applies to Teresa & Joe.
      I mean wtf?
      Apollo is a lousy Dad because he put his needs & wants above his two sons well being & welfare but yet Tre is a “good” Mom?
      Oh puh-leeze! GTFOH with that double standard BS!

      • DLister

        Yeah, I so agree.

        Again, I’m sorry, I cringe like I’m burnt when I think of Audriana crying for her mommy. Man, that splits me.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Oh D it breaks my heart. Those poor kids are paying such a heavy price for their parents greed & stupidity! & then once she gets her Mom back her Dad will be gone for years!
          I can’t imagine leaving my son at that age for any amount of time nevermind a full year or more. I think that is when it’s finally gonna hit Tre, when she actually sees how her foolish choices for money & fame have harmed her children. Maybe then she’ll finally get it. I can only hope & pray that someone will make sure those girls have a counselor or some professional to talk to. It’s so wrong that girls seem to be the only ones who are the the true victims, they are the ones who will pay dearly for their parents criminal ways!

          • Tiger, I’m also appalled that Teresa has wasted three months not preparing her little girls with a stable place to live! If Gia lives somewhere different than her sisters, the little ones will suffer even more abandonment issues. They have always looked up to Gia & now Teresa’s gona allow her to be separated? She’s not thinking of the little ones!! Amazin, everyday I read a story that just gets my blood boilin more than yesterday’s story with her. But when it comes to the kids, I just get crazy mad!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            This is one time where I truly hope we are all wrong. Unfortunately though it seems we haven’t been wrong about much.
            I can only hope & pray that someone has stepped up to make sure those girls have someone in place to help them through what has to be the scariest times of their lives. It’s sad that they are paying the price for all the wrongs their parents have done, but that begins & ends with Joe & teresa Giudice. The fault falls squarely on their shoulders no matter what tales of delusion Teresa tries to spin..

      • donna

        THANK YOU SOO MUCH!

  • Anna Paolinelli

    I hope they have to spend the time living like normal kids with guardians who don’t cater to their every whim.

    • Teresa should stop w/her ego & let ALL the girls live w/uncle Joey. They adore him & he has plenty of room now that he moved back into the mansion.
      Read that all of the Guidice family are losing their homes to foreclosures, so that idea has to be scrapped. Teresa just doesn’t put her kids welfare before her own ego.
      No way should the girls be separated either. The little ones will feel even more lost & scared w/out Gia being there. Seems like she’s they’re only stable force anymore & Teresa’s gona allow her to live w/a friend?! Ugh, makes my blood boil!
      But this is a mom that refuses to pay off the fertility clinic that brought her baby into the world. That poor child will live w/that stigma all her life. Kids will tease her mercifully about it & Teresa ignores it.

  • A litle late in the game Tre to start thinking about your daughters? Burned all your bridges with friends & relatives didn’t you?
    Joe is a drunk & a player so you should have guessed he wouldn’t slow down to step up…Your unruly unmannered spoiled kids are gonna be hard to shove off on who you have left as friends…You are more worried about you than these girls.What about Children & family of NJ?

  • Poo

    We should be hearing about Mr Kridels response to the bankruptcy soon. Think he had until Jan 2, 2015. Wonder if he will stall til the end so she can’t use it to try to stall her departure !!

    • Guardian

      It won’t stall her departure. Her lawyer(s) will be allowed to see her in prison though.

      • Poo

        Good to know but just get the feeling that she still thinks she has an out based on her total lack of preparation with housing, etc

        • Guardian

          It won’t matter and she was very lucky the judge showed as much mercy as she did. They both could have been taken away the day the sentence was given, not given time to put their affairs in order, and not had their sentences staggered so one parent could be with them. I think she has tried every stall tactic in the book and then some but one thing is for sure, in eight days, she is gone.

  • Mary Poly

    going to Camp Cupcake and paranoid? send her to a “real”jail like Rykers!

  • aemish

    Those kids would be better off with their aunt & uncle Melissa & Joe..

    • donna

      That’s what I was gonna say. I really don’t believe that Joe or Melissa will ever hurt those kids! They will take good care of them!

      • aemish

        Totally agree! What a petty man Joe Guidice is to keep feuding with his wife’s brother.

        • cait

          He only goes for Joey when goaded by his “loving wife”

          • aemish

            Sick people.. smh…

        • donna

          And Teresa blaming her brother for their problems. It’s not Teresa’s fault, it’s Joe Gorga’s fault because he married Mellisa, & had he not married Melissa in the first place, there wouldn’t be problems with in the family in the second place. & Mommy & Daddy would be in better health in the third place, & everything would be back to normal in the fourth place! So all of this is Joe Gorga’s fault because he married Melissa!

          • aemish

            LOL golden post!

      • Guardian

        I think they would too, but I think both T & J are jealous of M & J. Whoever watches over them, wherever, will have their hands full. They are used to being overly indulged among so much else.

    • cait

      It could, possibly, work as Mellownia seems to behave when with Antonia. However, could also backfire and turn the Gorga kids into unruly monsters !

      • aemish

        There’s a fly in the Metamucil…

  • Mommyof4qtpies

    I wonder if Teresa has told her 3 younger children yet or if she’s going to wait until the morning of so they can “have a normal life” until January 5th.

    • cait

      “Bye kids, mommy is going to the store this morning ! See you next year !”

      • Mommyof4qtpies

        Exactly! That’s how I picture it! She should have had them in professional counseling from the time the sentence was handed down and made arrangements for other family members to take the girls instead of leaving them in the hands of the drunk, incapable father!

      • chacha1

        I am going to college and live on campus

    • Anne Green

      IMO, Tre has told all 4 of her “dorters” that she is being wrongfully accused of doing something that she did not do. These girls will blame the Government, Judge and whoever else for being separated from Mommy….just like they have been told and just like Mommy believes. Teresa could never tell these girls the truth and make herself looks bad in their eyes.

      • Mommyof4qtpies

        I didn’t even think about that! I know teresa blame shifts, but to tell the children that is just awful! They will just be future criminals just like their parents! I’m sure you’re correct, and that’s just so disgusting!

      • Guardian

        I don’t think she would tell them the truth as she doesn’t even acknowledge the truth with herself. It will always be the fault of another and will leave the children thinking she is a victim. One day they will be older and may begin to question, seek out the truth, and then what? It’s a mess and one that will likely last for years to come.

      • mytwocents

        I’m being redundant, but I think that would be such a disservice to them and their security. If she doesn’t not admit her wrongdoing, she is basically telling them that the government can come in and take your parents and possessions away for no reason whatsoever. How terrifying that must be to a young child. I also think it was EXTREMELY selfish of her to risk having the three younger girls hear gossip from others. How she could delude herself into believing they knew nothing with the all of the media coverage is beyond comprehension.

      • chacha1

        They knew before the court date that this was coming down … Teresa lies about everything and will never admit to being the mastermind of the crimes that were committed she is as sly as a fox

  • Mommyof4qtpies

    I don’t know much about Joe’s brother and sister in law but Joe’s brother obviously gave him the documents to get the fraudulent driver’s license, so they can’t be on the up and up. I’d rather see them with Joe and Melissa.

    • mytwocents

      Wow, I think that would be tough. Teresa thinks it’s so amusing when her children are fresh and disrespectful versus what appears to be very polite children raised by Melissa. Add to that the years of animosity towards Melissa heard by the Giudice children, and I wonder if they would listen to their Aunt and not negatively influence the Gorga children. I’m not being negative about young girls, only the way their parents neglected to teach respect.

      • Guardian

        Well said. And, we do see M try to keep her children reined in. Having four more children in their home – one a teen, would certainly be a challenge to say the least.

      • Mommyof4qtpies

        I understand completely what you’re saying. They could corrupt the Gorga children or they might actually listen to their Aunt and Uncle. Melissa and Joe seem to have rules, where Teresa and Joe let the kids run the household. So who knows. I know the kids need some serious counseling and I don’t think they will get that no matter where they are at.

        • chacha1

          Dina kept telling Milania she could not have candy at the charity fashion show but she went and took it anyway … she is always hitting audriana and should be sent to juvie boot camp for her own good … what nasty girls gia and milania are ….. they are old enough to know better …..
          Topo Gijo and Melissa should take Gabriella and Audriana before it is to late ,,, Milania might kill them

      • Guardian

        I really used to cringe when I would hear T & J speak about J & M in front of their children. You just don’t do that – you leave them out. I hated it when AC would run clips of Milania acting out and pronounce it amusing. It wasn’t – or at least I didn’t find it so.

        • donna

          And thd nutty mae people use to love it, “OH MILANIA CRACKS ME UP!” WTF was so cute about Milania’s actions?

          • chacha1

            she is a little beast …. she would never get away with her fresh mouth around me ….

        • chacha1

          Andy is a moron ..he keeps them criminals in the money by keeping them on the show … Milania is not funny she is a wildebeast like her nasty mother

          • Jeanie

            Agreed. All Andy cares for is ratings. He loves drama queens like Teresa Brandi Kenya…all toxic haters!

        • Jeanie

          I so agree. The kids spoke openly about M with hatred and the smirk on Ts face was evident. Joe called M a slut in front of the kids to please his wife but hugged her tight at M’s concert. J has roving eyes as we know and has cheated on T
          He even has called T a bitch while talking to his gf. What an ass. And the feds need to slam him to take responsibility for the girls OR say they will place them in foster homes while J can go straight to the slammer too.

      • chacha1

        we all saw how mean and nasty gia was at that Game Day at Jac’s house, she was screaming and crying because she said her Uncle Joe Gorga Topo gigo was cheating in the games, then Jac and Caroline tried to talk to gia and calm her down, then Treape came in and scolded Jac and Carolyn for the audacity to talk to and reason with a nasty disrespectful gia

  • Anne Green

    Who knows what plans have been made for the care of the children….we don’t really know. My ? is if the girls are placed with family or friends or whomever other than Joe…does that mean he goes directly to jail? At sentencing, wasn’t it the Judge’s ruling that Teresa will serve her time first, Joe will care for the children so that they will always have one parent with them? If Joe is not the sole caretaker for those children, might he be ordered to begin serving his time immediately. Joe knows this. I think he will pretend to care for the kids with tremendous help from others. He isn’t going to jeopardize having to go to prison now. IMO, it will appear as though he is caring for the kids while others take the brunt of the responsibility.

    • chacha1

      he will be working his night job with his bottle of wine and his side piece hoochie momma

  • Jersey

    I thought maybe Joe’s family would step in for the girls. Teresa seems closer to them than her own family. It just blows my mind that NOW she’s so worried for her daughters, should have thought of them before doing what they did.

  • cait

    This Sheila woman seems to have crawled out of the woodwork, fairly recently, and started mouthing off about everything ! Do you think she’s looking for a job ? She’d be able to start anytime after 5th Jan 2015 !

    • Mommyof4qtpies

      She might be looking for a spot on the RHONJ! LOL

  • cait

    The Manzo boys summed Demonia up in the early days of the show ! At a dinner they both refused to sit near hear in case she’d stab them in the eye with a fork ! She was about 3yrs old at the time !

  • chacha1

    the night before she goes she will fake a nervous breakdown ( she is a lying phony) and admit herself to the hospital, Jesse Jackson Jr. did this and was going in and out of different medical facilities, even the Mayo Clinic and he had his father the Rev, Jesse Jackson pleading with the media and feds to back off, the feds waited and then BAM they took his ass off to prison and that is where he is today, his wife goes in 2-1/2 years for her crimes, they also have minor children.

  • chacha1

    I wonder if she told them she was going to college and living in a dorm ….

  • fengshoe1

    Okay…so I’m so upset that I missed 3KT…I’m off to a friend’s show this eve.
    Earlier I spoke with a producer friend and we discussed putting them on the billing for a benefit show we’re doing in 3 weeks.
    LoLoL!

    • Pedro Flores

      I was gonna say. Lol

      • fengshoe1

        Haha, Pedero.
        Were you concerned for my well being?

        • Pedro Flores

          Lol. You sounded serious and believable. Couldn’t stop laughing

          • fengshoe1

            Haha…i’m going to book a show, here in Boston, but my friends will laugh me out of the business. So long respect I built after all these years. LMBO!
            ETA-I’ll put you the guest list-VIP, all the way, Pedro!

  • Schelita

    An old fashioned ass whipping is all that’s needed to straighten those spoiled girls out. The money is gone, so what’s next? Do Joe and Teresa try to pimp them out to Real celebrities? That video makes it look like Gia is in training already.

  • Pedro Flores

    Hopefully, this will make her a better person. Can’t feel sorry for someone who cheated their way to luxury, but I do emphasize with her. She will see how it is to actually struggle and survive with the very little given to her.

  • Jeanie

    HOW do others do it? Others less known, less privileged and struggling? They have NO choice!! Here Ms Delusional Teresa has been trying to throw mud on the other wives, trying to get Bravo sympathy and perhaps hoping that a knight in shining armor with loads of cash will whisk her away! Truly she has hoped for this and believe you me…would leave Joe in a heartbeat if that were to happen!
    Instead of focusing on how to downsize EVERYTHING leaving the basics such as bed desk table for each child, auctioning off all her stuff and paying off debts, she has been at parlors and bars, parties and signings. What an unfair advantage over the rest of the world and what a dysfunctional woman! Shame on her! Now she thinks of her kids? Awful mother!! Those brats need to go to foster homes except the second girl who never gets air time!

  • Jeanie

    I SO hope Joe and Melissa do NOT take this on themselves. Let Ts mother or mother in law who are so opinonated and love T do this. Or what is wrong with a foster home for these scum bags?

    • Debbie Willard

      Tres parents should take them girls Court ordered for Raising Tre like a spoiled ass brat her whole life..here’s her offspring…your welcome and good luck!

  • colleen

    1. Tre’s mom doesn’t look that old and she seems healthy. Don’t the parents live there anyway? Hire housekeepers (parents have $$$) and Grandma just being there should keep the girls on straight and narrow. 2. Tre isn’t gonna get her Xanax in jail. #Withdtawal! 3. Couldn’t Zen stay at the house for a week here and there?

    • disqus_nx4MfF4kvy

      Don’t know what makes you think either of the parents have any significant money, they were working class people who came to the U.S. for a better life. Her father was a shoe maker and nothing more.