EXCLUSIVE: Teresa Giudice’s Erroneous Lawsuit Against James Kridel: Evidence Teresa LIED In New Lawsuit

Posted on Dec 4 2014 - 3:50pm by Stacy Slotnick, Esq.

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When you are a trial lawyer, you get pretty well acquainted with the structure and substance of pleadings, which are formal documents filed with the court that state the parties’ basic positions.  After awhile, complaint A tends to look an awful lot like complaint B, which is probably a result of some attorneys believing that drafting litigation documents means pulling out a form book and filling in the blanks.

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When I got the assignment to examine the Summons and Verified Complaint filed in New York by “Real Housewives of New Jersey” star Teresa Giudice against her attorney James A. Kridel, Jr., Esq. d/b/a The Kridel Law Group, some overarching themes caught my attention:

Desperate Housewife:

Teresa continues to deflect blame but this time, I don’t see her desperation paying off. Legal malpractice cases are very expensive to prosecute. Attorney-defendants know that their reputation and livelihood is at stake so they are more likely to fight till the end. 

Moreover, lawyers are entitled to a certain amount of judgmental deference, meaning strategic decisions that look like mistakes only with the benefit of hindsight do not always support a legal malpractice case.

The clearest legal malpractice cases are ones where the attorney has missed a statute of limitations or court deadline or where the attorney fails to reveal a conflict of interest. Legal malpractice becomes much more difficult to prove where the attorney can justify his or her actions as being strategic in nature.  As you will note below, Teresa’s legal malpractice suit against her attorney is an act of pure desperation.

The Elements of Legal Malpractice:

In general terms, in order to prevail in a suit for legal malpractice, the plaintiff must prove he or she probably would have won the underlying case but for the attorney’s negligence in handling the matter.

There is a tripartite test under New York law that legal malpractice complaints must pass in order to withstand a motion to dismiss [see, CPLR § 3211(a)(7)].  The complaint must assert facts showing that: 1) the attorney was negligent, i.e., he/she failed to exercise that degree of skill commonly exercised by an ordinary member of the legal community; 2) the attorney’s negligence was the proximate cause of the harm suffered; and 3) actual damages were suffered by the client.  Potential, speculative or anticipatory damages will not do. 

Let’s begin at the end: Damages. The third element of a claim for legal malpractice requires proof of damages suffered by the plaintiff-client that are not potential, speculative or anticipatory.  I direct you to pg. 8 of the complaint. Scroll down to the first sentence after the familiar, “WHEREFORE” statement. Teresa demanded “at least” $5 million for each cause of action.  That is insane.  I haven’t seen that figure tossed around in a long time with cases involving REAL celebrities. Can she prove Kridel’s shortcomings caused her to suffer “reputational damage” and “lost income from business ventures” equating to $5 million?  If she cannot demonstrate that her paycheck from the RHONJ, cookbook sales, and Fabellini brand totaled that amount to date, it is clear her damage plea is speculative and anticipatory at best. 

Equally problematic is Teresa’s claim that Kridel failed to exercise that degree of skill commonly exercised by an ordinary member of the legal community. Teresa alleges in ¶10, “Defendant Kridel never met with Plaintiff prior to Defendant’s Kridel’s filing of the Bankruptcy case.”  I’m not sure an omission of “meeting” before filing paperwork rises to the level of professional misconduct. If Kridel missed a deadline in filing the joint Chapter 7 bankruptcy case on her behalf that would certainly pique my interest if I were representing Teresa against Kridel (scary thought).

The complaint also seems to contradict itself if you read paragraphs 7,8, and 11 together. Specifically, the complaint states that in October 2009 (the fact that there are no precise dates is highly problematic) she and Joe “consulted” with the Defendant and after consulting with him they retained Kridel as counsel. Then in ¶11 the complaint avers the Defendant never “met” with Plaintiff prior to filing the Bankruptcy Case. This semantics game is legally irrelevant. Whether they met, consulted, or spoke exclusively on the phone is immaterial.  The fact that the complaint admits he was retained as her counsel gives him the ability and authority to file paperwork on her behalf.

If Teresa never divulged certain business interests and income from rental property (see ¶16) one wonders how Kridel was supposed to properly prepare her schedules and statement of financial affairs.  Paragraph 13 alleges, “Defendant Kridel, by signing the subject bankruptcy petition, falsely certified that he had ‘performed a reasonable investigation into the circumstances that gave rise to the petition.’”  Do you know how low the legal standard of “reasonableness” is? It means Kridel had to merely ask questions and get answers.  Nothing more – including forensic accounting or CSI-like digital investigations – was required of him.

In any event, Teresa’s lies come back to bite her with the following video that shows she and Joe met with Kridel. This footage will be the nail in her coffin.  It is evidence that Teresa acquiesced to the strategy of the defendant, i.e., her attorney James Kridel.

 

Another major hurdle for Teresa to overcome is explaining away why she did not raise this weighty issue with Judge Salas during sentencing. Begging and pleading only when the chips are stacked against you makes your arguments appear less credible.

Attorney-Client Privilege Out the Window: 

If a client sues their attorney for malpractice, courts deem it a waiver of the attorney-client privilege to the extent that the attorney needs to reveal confidential communications for their defense.  If Teresa wants to go head-to-head with Kridel in court, he will most certainly divulge information – probably of the incriminating variety – in order to defend his actions as her counsel. Those impeaching tidbits could result in more jail time for Teresa should the government pursue newly discovered crimes she committed.

There is no doubt some lawyers take advantage of the gift they have been given to practice law. I do not think this is one of those circumstances.  If a client does not get the result they were expecting, the law will not recognize that as evidence of legal malpractice.  It is that simple.

 

READ: Teresa Giudice Malpractice Suit Against James Kridel

 

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About the Author

Stacy Slotnick, a.k.a. The Foxy Jurist, holds a J.D., cum laude, from Touro Law Center and a B.A., summa cum laude, from the University of Massachusetts Amherst Commonwealth Honors College. Stacy is the recipient of the Honors Deans Award; Simon and Satenig Ermonian Memorial Scholarship; College of Social and Behavioral Sciences Opportunity Scholarship; and College of Humanities and Fine Arts Scholarship. She is also a William F. Field Alumni Scholar, an honor bestowed upon the most academically distinguished students. In law school, Stacy won two CALI Excellence For The Future Awards® and received an Achievement Scholarship. She is a member of the New York Bar. As an entertainment lawyer, Stacy counsels clients on contracts, branding, and public relations strategy. She negotiates with agents, producers, production companies, and lawyers to secure rights to projects on behalf of high-profile clients. Her clever, spirited, no holds barred legal analysis can be found in articles for The Huffington Post. * Facebook   * LinkedIn   * Twitter

  • twifan2

    Any chance of more prison time being added for her filing wrongful lawsuits?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I wish it were that easy. If you file a frivolous lawsuit your attorney and you can be sanctioned but not with additional jail time. Sanctions come in the form of monetary payment of which Teresa probably has none.

      • twifan2

        Well something is better than nothing. It can be added to her ‘I.O.U.’s.
        BUT you’d think her laywer wold know this? Being sanctioned that is.

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Word is he took this case on a contingency basis which means he doesn’t get paid unless she wins. Lawyers inevitably file frivolous lawsuits but not all lawyers file ones with the glare of the media spotlight.

  • WestCoastFeed

    I love it. Thanks. Stacy
    And oh the poor dear. She suffered “reputational damage, public ridicule and derision.” Must be worth another $5 million smackers.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Thanks! I must say, it was a pleasure to scour this Summons and Complaint. I knew there would be nuggets of untruths and lies contained in the four corners of these legal docs. Hope you are doing well this Thursday!

      • WestCoastFeed

        Every time I find myself beginning to sympathize with her for the enormous stress she must be enduring, she pulls another dumb stunt. Like this one. Before that, it was her attempt to get half way house confinement. Oh, and I notice, this is another new lawyer for her.

        • Stacy Slotnick

          You are so right! I completely understand where you are coming from. I bet lots of people thought about her spending this last Thanksgiving with her kids for awhile and then she files this nonsense. If she didn’t raise the issue of incompetent counsel at sentencing, its hard to empathize now with her.

  • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

    Awesome Stacy! Thanks so much for breaking it down!
    Attorney-Client privilege is waived?
    Could possibly lead to newly discovered crimes? One’s that she hasn’t been tried or prosecuted for yet?
    Go ahead Tre. Open Pandora’s box again. Go ahead. Go for it!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I LOVE it. Yes. She is certainly opening up Pandora’s box if it isn’t settled. You read my article super carefully (awesome!) as you recounted perfectly this idea that she has now waived her attorney-client privilege and that could lead to Kridel exposes more of her crimes.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        I mean by now I do know & realize that the Giudices are like water.
        They will always seek & find the lowest level.
        BUT even Teresa has to realize that this is just laughable.
        Talk about a ‘Hail-Mary’ pass! Imho. it’s beyond obvious even to a blind-man that she’s just butt-hurt that she got caught & now HAS to pay for the crimes she willfully committed for 10 long years to build her stolen ill-gotten Empire.
        Hmmm. Maybe the Doc’s need to up her dosage of Xanax & Prozac.

  • Nene robs kids

    Once again an awesome blog from Stacy! Thanks so much for explaining all of this to us in a manner we can all understand! Teresa just keeps creating more crap to make her delusional mind feel at ease!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Thanks! My pleasure. I think its entirely laughable that so much was made in the complaint out of Teresa not “meeting” Kridel when first that is clearly a lie and second, its legally immaterial.

      • Nene robs kids

        Teresa will continue to lie until she takes her last breath. She has never taken any responsibility for her actions and I don’t think she ever will.

  • RealitytvJunkie

    Excellent blog, Stacy. Someone needs to get this blog to Jame Kridel. He can use Stacy’s analysis to bust the fraud wide open. Hopefully Kridel countersues.

    • Nene robs kids

      We can e mail him a link on his website

      • Stacy Slotnick

        You AATT posters exhibit such swift justice, I love it!

        • Nene robs kids

          I have e mailed a link to his office

      • RealitytvJunkie

        Smart move.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      You are beyond kind. Thank you a million. I’m sure he will make mincemeat out of this pleading and respond fairly aggressively with an Answer and Motion to Dismiss.

      • RealitytvJunkie

        You’re welcome, Stacy. You are appreciated here.

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Thank you RealitytvJunkie. It’s a joy to break down these legal issues and share some knowledge that is lacking in mass media. 🙂

      • Nene robs kids

        Stacy will you be able to get a copy of that also? If so can you PLEASE blog that for us also?

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Yes! Thank goodness she filed in NY as I have access to court records here! Cold but I Heart NY. NY courts actually make document retrieval very easy if your law firm has a subscription. Thanks Nene robs kids for the amazing support.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Woot-Woot! NY in da’ house! Native NY’er here Stacy.

  • Trippinhhard

    Awwww poor Teresa I hope this lawsuits gives her more stress, because I think she just opened a can of worms.. He can turn around and use anything they told their lawyer..
    Teresa has peanuts for brains, I hope he sue her back and win, she grasping at straws..

    • Stacy Slotnick

      “Peanuts for brains” is such great imagery. I’m a big believer in strategizing every step with my legal and PR clients. You have to think through what backlash this type of litigation might cause you. I guess she weighed the pros and cons (yeah right).

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Right!!!!!!! Cause, remember, she said “I cross every T and dot every i”!!!!!

        • Stacy Slotnick

          That’s right. Either you were transparent with your attorney and provided all information to him or you were deceptive. Which is it? (Insert obvious answer here)

          • Nene robs kids

            Even though I have never filed bankruptcy I just don’t think any attorney is required to go and physically inventory your assets

          • Stacy Slotnick

            That’s right. All Kridel had an obligation to do was ask questions like a reasonable attorney would. Lawyers don’t have to be invincible or legal eagles.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Well, Stacy, it must be then, that where he really screwed up was when he forgot to tell her not to lie.

          • Nene robs kids

            HAHAHAHA good one!

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Cons. *Snicker!*

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Tigerlily: Are you watching Peter Pan Live tonight? Just wondering since perhaps your poster name was inspired by the hit musical. 🙂

        • twifan2

          They think they’re Pros
          *ROTFLMAO* 😀

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Hee-hee! Can’t help it when ya have ‘natural’ talent & abilities. (>‿◠)✌
            Does stupid as a box of rocks count as talent?

          • twifan2

            ☜(:♛ฺ;益;♛ฺ;)☞

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Their arrogance knows no boundaries!!!!!

          • twifan2

            Arrogant stupidity is more their case! ;D

      • Trippinhhard

        Now we all know Teresa doesn’t know right from wrong, but it’s laughable to think in her peanut head, that this will stop her from going to jail.. She still need to report to prison in Jan..
        @Stacy I don’t think she can get a get out of jail card for the lawsuit?? Right
        Due to the fact, she already been convicted..

        • Stacy Slotnick

          You are 100% correct. There is no way this lawsuit will serve as her get out of jail free card. She signed a plea deal. She was able to give a statement before being sentenced. She thinks this will serve as evidence that she was duped and that she did not commit fraud but the proof does not back up that claim.

          • Trippinhhard

            Thank you for your expert answers..

  • noarguingwithstupid

    When Tre told Andy that “she gets it”, I don’t think she had any idea what she was saying (LOL) She no more “gets it” than she can do neurosurgery!!!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      noarguingwithstupid: You are absolutely right. This action reaks of a last ditch attempt to avoid responsibility and jail time.

      • twifan2

        Isn’t this some sort of perjury, Stacey?
        Tre did say to Judge Salas ‘she got it’-yes, no?

        • Stacy Slotnick

          I’m not sure what she said at sentencing could be deemed perjury if she lied. She was not under oath. Should you EVER lie when speaking to a judge? No way, Jose.

          • twifan2

            Oh, during the sentencing phase she wasn’t under oath then? Shame, she should have!
            HOW the heck is she going to ‘walk the straight & narrow’ when she does her 2 yrs probation then?! o.0

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I don’t believe she took the stand or was sworn in. When she addressed the judge she made a statement, which is not actionable or deemed perjury. Think of it like those Dateline NBC shows when the convicted offers a statement and shows remorse. Anything they say can’t be prosecuted as perjury.

          • twifan2

            Thank you for that clarification, Stacey.
            Shame tho. I’d luv luv luv to see Tre keep her mouth shut for fear of legal retribution. 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            No take-sie-back-sies when you’re standing before a Judge.

          • twifan2

            Get out the way when Tre starts back paddling tho!

            (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Duck!

          • twifan2

            Out the way!

            ( う-´)づ︻╦̵̵̿╤── (˚☐˚”)/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Look out! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

            Oh boy! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ╯(°□° ╯)

            Watch it! (._.) ~ ︵ ┻━┻

            Eeep! (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻

            Awww man! ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻

            Geez Louise! ┻━┻ ︵ ¯(ツ)/¯ ︵ ┻━┻

            Holy moley she even ticked off the bears! ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ ︵ ┻━┻

          • twifan2

            Time for the BIG gun! 🙂

            (҂._.)


            …/﹋…

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Eek! R’uh r’oh.

          • twifan2

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          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿
          • twifan2

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            …………..♟☦♟…………….mERRY cHrisTmas!!

          • I love this!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿
          • twifan2

            OH CRAP! How you get a video of Chats last Christmas?! 😀

          • I see you….spreading the holiday cheer!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yeah that’s me. Full of holiday cheer. Merry effin’ Christmas Giudices! LOL!

          • twifan2

            Yep, a truck load of ‘cheer’! 😀

            |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ||____
            | The Truck |||””‘|””__,_
            | _____________ l||__|__|__|)
            …|(@)@)”””””””**|(@)(@)**|(@)

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Looks like something out of Hollywood!!!!

    • Trippinhhard

      She can’t pronounce that last word or define it, you are really giving her too much intelligence. She gets that her lies were not believed, but she doesn’t get why.
      Teresa has so many personalities, I wonder which one sued her lawyer?

  • TartLemon

    I wonder if Teresa made the new attorney (Cuevas) aware of the video with Kridel.

    • Nene robs kids

      That dummy probably has forgotten it exists!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      What I find very disingenuous about the complaint is the fact the “consultation” (see paragraph 7) dates were not included. That is very wrong, especially because it makes it harder for the defendant to concede or deny each and every paragraph. Clearly she met, consulted, and talked to Kridel.

      • Nene robs kids

        And in the video Teresa clearly asks Kridel ” How do I get out of my bankruptcy”?

      • twifan2

        I kind of feel bad for her attorney…OK that moment is over!
        Guess he/she will gain experience by ‘trial by fire’!

  • TartLemon

    IMO, everytime Teresa does something like this it reveals a little bit more that she KNEW wtf was going on all along. Teresa KNEW what was not being submitted in the original filing otherwise she would not have known ‘why didn’t he ask for it if he needed it’?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Plus, when Judge Salas asked why she didn’t include items, that was the perfect time for her to say, “Hey, my lawyer mislead me or didn’t help me file the way he should have.” But guess what? Judge Salas’ question was met with crickets from Teresa.

  • Nene robs kids

    Dear Tre Huggers
    No worries at all I have made sure that I e mailed the attorney your gal is suing this blog! You’re welcome and Merry Christmas

    • You rock Nene Robs Kids. You DO NOT play around. LOL!!!

      • Nene robs kids

        LOL Spreading the Christmas Cheer!

        • twifan2

          Cheers to you, Nene robs kids!
          *hic* excuse me. 🙂

  • In New Jersey

    If Mr. Kridel has malpractice insurance, will the insurance company’s attorney handle the case and does this change things up?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Superb question. I would be very surprised if he didn’t have malpractice insurance. The insurance company will have an adjuster or attorney handling the matter but he should also seek his own representation.

      • In New Jersey

        Thank you Stacy!

        • Stacy Slotnick

          You are very welcome. If a lawyer does have legal malpractice insurance typically two things can happen in a legal malpractice case. First, the legal professional’s insurance company will defend the client’s former attorney against the claims. Secondly, the insurance company will allot resources to pay the client in the event that the defendant is found guilty of malpractice.

  • Anne Green

    What I find interesting is the fact that the complaint is filed in Teresa’s name only. Why not Joe as a plaintiff?

    • TartLemon

      Joe gets it. Remember a few seasons ago Joe told Teresa, “We chose this life. They (children) didn’t”. Teresa agreed 100%. Teresa KNEW, KNOWS and COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        She definitely had to file alone also in the event that Joe had different/dissimilar conversations with Kridel from her. It’s all about being strategic should the legal malpractice case move forward.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      She needs to keep their accounts and lawsuits separate especially if they are no longer together when this lawsuit settles, goes before a judge, or is dismissed. Great point, though. It didn’t surprise me she filed herself. Plus, she might blame Joe down the line for her situation.

  • TartLemon

    This video may not have a date on it, but I’d bet a mint the production crew has the pertinent details.

    • WestCoastFeed

      It should be around Christmas 2010 or maybe in January. it was not long after Tre had her shouting match with Monica Chacon in the courthouse hallway the day of the Juicy/Mastropole forgery hearing.

      • I wish Bravo would hire Kim G and Monica Chacon. Those 2 are a force to be reckoned with. Must-see TV!

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Now that I would watch! Battle of the Titans!

  • Anne Green

    I wonder if this was a case of Teresa saying to Joe “you handle the bankruptcy attorney”. She has admitted that Joe always handled the financial and legal aspects of their lives. She didn’t want anything to do with the bankruptcy initially…that is why she had little to no contact with the attorney. The amendments that were filed to the bankruptcy petition where she omits her employment, income, cars and rental income must have been signed by her. How could she have been accused of perjury if she didn’t acknowledge that the amendment was true?

    • TartLemon

      “Blue Jasmine” to a tee.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        So true.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      The problem with her claim that she was unaware of the bankruptcy case is that the complaint boldly states that she conversed, consulted with, and retained this attorney. It was up to her to keep apprised of her case. Now, if she tried to do that and he didn’t return her calls or respond to inquiries, that could be grounds for malpractice, but the complaint does not allege that, does it?

      • WestCoastFeed

        But, I remember her claiming a couple of times that she had no idea they were in financial trouble until Joe presented her with the bankruptcy forms to sign. That is probably on tape somewhere and could be used to bolster her case.

        • twifan2

          Judge Salas told her to ‘read before signing’.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            That’s right. “I didn’t understand” is not a defense to escaping responsibility for putting your John Hancock on documents.

          • Anne Green

            Ignorance is not above the law…..

          • twifan2

            Apparently Tre thinks she is.
            smh

          • WestCoastFeed

            But this was 5 years ago. Before she learned better.

          • twifan2

            As soon as you are of legal age to sign papers, you should know better.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Of course, but Teresa is special and she has 4 beautiful daughters and she is a good person and she just loves. loves, loves, so she is excused.

          • twifan2

            I wonder if I could send Chats over to her for some
            ‘enlightenment’!? 🙂

          • Stacy Slotnick

            What’s really crazy to me is all this effort and money she doesn’t have is going to fight basically a 15-month prison sentence, which isn’t horrific. She has no sense of reality or context. I tell clients all the time in the entertainment industry to not be a lane person, meaning don’t look to see what the person to the right and left of you is doing. Make your own path. Here, I’d caution Teresa to take her sentence and move on.

          • twifan2

            She is one scared puppy!
            She’s live for herself, only to serve herself. Now she has to face a harsh reality, where she won’t be catered to.
            Welcome to the real world Tre! Enjoy your stay!

          • WestCoastFeed

            It’s only a little over a year. She should use the time to plot out the course for the rest of her life. Writing a book might be a good idea–it would have to be emails to a ghost writer sort of book. At some point it may actually register with her that, if she wants to return to tv, she must at least make a convincing show of remorse and portray herself as working hard to repay all those folks she cheated. The sooner she gets started on that path, the more chance she has of making a comeback.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Never gonna happen–she has a terrible time showing remorse!!!!! She has none!!!!!

          • twifan2

            ITA! 🙂

          • WestCoastFeed

            Of course she has none. But after someone hits her in the head with a two by four, it may sink in with her that she has to pretend that she is remorseful.

          • twifan2

            MAYBE Big Bertha in prison will whack her over the head & she MIGHT get it? Maybe not.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Sorry West, can’t fix it. Ya can only numb it!

          • twifan2

            This is Tre you speak up, WCF. ๏_๏
            She’ll never take responsibility. She’ll fiend remorse for a short time-to serve her own purpose. But that will wear out soon. She can’t keep the facade up for too long. Too much work for her.

  • Anne Green

    Also, Miss Stacy….what would Mr. Kridel’s course of action be if this complaint is dismissed?

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      & if Teresa’s case is dismissed as being unfounded can he sue her for libel or slander?

      • twifan2

        IF he does sues & wins a monetary judgement, can he have her paycheck(s) garnished?

        • Anne Green

          I appears he should have some rights since she is attempting to tarnish his good name.

          • Purposefully also because Teresa knows damn well she knew what she was signing and that Kridel explained everything to her. She’s one of those clients you need to videotape (with their knowledge) acknowledging everything.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            A lawyer does not have to hold a client’s hand and explain every facet of why they are doing what they are doing. If there was merit to her argument that he committed malpractice, I would’ve expected to see the complaint have more meat on the bone. No specific instances of where he did something that was unreasonable, which is the standard.

          • That’s awesome news! Thanks for responding Stacy.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            My pleasure, Spread The Holiday Cheer! Basically, so long as Kridel asked questions of his client, and he believed she was answering truthfully, that would serve as enough of an investigation into the bankruptcy charges for him to escape responsibility under a legal malpractice claim.

          • I’m doing the happy dance with this news. Thank you again for providing us with your legal expertise. You’re a rock star!

    • Hopefully countersue and garnish her paycheck like the laundry company.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      It will probably be dismissed and he could sue for sanctions and costs (attorney fees, etc.). However, who will he collect his award from? Teresa owes everyone from the government to the pope (just teasing). I’m not sure how valuable a counter lawsuit will be for him. I’d suggest he get the case dismissed and walk away.

      • twifan2

        I’d at least demand a PUBLIC apology.
        Tape & televised for all to witness. 🙂

      • Teresa owes a laundry company a pretty hefty bill, they managed to get a judgement and as a result her Bravo paycheck is garnished. Hopefully if Kridel counters he can secure a garnishment of her Bravo check also.

        • Stacy Slotnick

          He’d be waiting in a long line of people Teresa owes money to.

          • twifan2

            But from I’ve seen, the laundry company is the only one that went to court to garnish her paycheck & succeeded.
            I would think Mr. Kridel would be able to get a part of her paycheck too?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Sure, after she finishes ponying up $13 plus million to the others she owes.

          • Those creditors ($13 million) would also have to file judgements to obtain garnishments. So it would be a race to the courthouse to get a piece of her paycheck. Is that correct?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Absolutely. First in time, first in right. The government gets first dibs but then it is every man for himself. You have to stake your claim in the line.

          • Bravo pays Teresa $700k plus bonuses a season. Thankfully, some creditors will get paid.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Besides the laundry supply company, the fertility clinic had also gone far enough to place a lien against that Lincoln Park rental property that was in Tre’s name. So, at least we know one other creditor is working at getting paid.

          • I wonder if they will have to start over or will their proceedings pick up before the bankruptcy halted everything.

  • Nene robs kids

    Stacy have you ever met this attorney Teresa is suing?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I have not had the “pleasure” of meeting or being involved in a case with Carlos J. Cuevas. I’d never heard of him before yesterday.

      • Nene robs kids

        Sorry I meant the Attorney Teresa is suing

        • Stacy Slotnick

          I’ve never met Kridel. I’d be anxious to hear his response though. I guess we will see what he has to say in a motion to dismiss.

          • twifan2

            In what amount of time do you think he’ll respond, Stacey?
            By when?

          • Anne Green

            I’m going to guess and say…..20 days!!

          • twifan2

            Right before she goes ‘away’?!

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Absolutely. There are no coincidences in the law. She is trying to escape her sentence by saying her bankruptcy attorney did a lousy job. What’s that articulate saying, oh yeah: Too little, too late.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            There are so many bizarre and bald faced allegations that are not explained in this complaint. For example, paragraphs 17 & 18. How was she negligently represented at hearings with creditors? A pleading has the weight of testimony.

          • Anne Green

            It sounds like she is insinuating that Kridel didn’t tell her what to say at the hearing. In other words….”he didn’t tell me not to lie”.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Excellent point. We are left to guess what “negligent representation” entails since it is not spelled out in complaint as it should be.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Under NY motion practice, he has to serve an Answer within 20 days. However, he could file a motion to dismiss instead that serves the same function but would allow a judge to dispose of the case speedily. In lieu of an Answer he can dismiss the complaint with this one motion.

          • Nene robs kids

            In a motion to dismiss does he have to give the reasons why he wants it dismissed?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Absolutely. He would probably file a motion to dismiss in lieu of answering the complaint for failure to state a cause of action. The legal standards to be applied in evaluating a motion to dismiss pursuant to CPLR 3211(a)(7) is whether the pleading states a cause of action. He will have to show that it does not, which should be fairly easy.

  • TartLemon

    I wonder why the parents of the other 3KT girls are still moving forward with this project. Teresa’s a disgrace as a Mother and those other parents are equally disgraceful to encourage the public association. I don’t blame the kids for the parents actions. There are other kids with much more talent than Gia and not the same baggage.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Like a moth to a flame, Teresa obviously gets her kicks from suing and being sued.

      • twifan2

        Stacey, just say for maybes…
        Gia’s group does become ‘famous’. Earns $$$. Gia is a minor-could Tre ‘use’ Gia’s earnings? That money would be clear of any legal garnishments, yes?

        • Stacy Slotnick

          In theory, yes. You are absolutely right. Gia’s money is Teresa’s money unless she is emancipated.

          • twifan2

            How young can she be to be able to emancipate herself?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Really good question. In New Jersey, unlike many other states, there is no automatic emancipation at the age of 18. Instead for parents to be released of their child support obligations, a court order must be entered. This can be achieved by submission of a consent order to the court or the bringing of a post-judgment motion. A motion for emancipation can be a legal minefield. A child can get a court order for emancipation.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            It is pretty easy to file an emancipation action. Pop star Tiffany did it as did Leann Rimes I think. Just ask Brandi Glanville (haha).

          • twifan2

            So until or even if an emancipation action is taken, Gia’s money would be part of of her parents’ income?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Indeed! She is their own personal piggy bank so it behooves them to encourage her career if it proves lucrative, unless they care about that stuff like education. 🙂

          • Anne Green

            It’s also Joe’s money and he’ll get to it first!

          • twifan2

            BUT Juicy will be ‘away’ longer than her.

          • Anne Green

            Let’s say they hit it big over he next year…..there will be nothing left by the time Teresa is released.

          • Angie26

            I am confused as to how the Guidices can presently continue to pay their monthly obligations. How has their home not been foreclosed, cars repossessed etc. while Teresa is incarcerated couldn’t they all end up on the street. How is she interviewing nannies.

  • TartLemon

    Mortgage, taxes, insurance, utilities, routine living expenses, etc continue. I don’t think Teresa gets that. She’s going to PRISON. There are no day passes to find living arrangements for her children kicked to the curb because of sale or repo of the house. If the Sheriff is the ‘moving company’, a bunch of day laborers come in and toss all the stuff out to the curb with no regard for safe pkg or your personal stuff.

    Teresa was given this time to make those downsized arrangements. There have been denials By Bravo of a cooking show, but nothing from them about the rumors of bankrolling the FELONS while Teresa is incarcerated. So, there must some validity to those reports?

    • WestCoastFeed

      For what it’s worth, Jim Marchese has tweeted that there will not be any filming done until after the first of the year. That could mean that he knows more. It could just mean that Amber won’t be filmed until after the holidays. or maybe that contracts haven’t been renewed yet and wont be until January. Or, and this is very likely, he is just being his blowhard self and puffing his tiny ego with another tweet.

      • twifan2

        I can’t see Bravo NOT filming RHNJ next year. Too much $$$ loss.

        • WestCoastFeed

          I could understand their wanting to wait a bit to make a decision about who to hire for next year. The newbies were disasters. If they can coax Jac and Caroline back, Dina would probably scarper again.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            The newbies were awful…….I barely watched them. Those mouths and their weird obsession with their Boobs!!!!!

          • twifan2

            I really didn’t watch this season. Just read the recaps here, listen to parts as I pinterested. I lost interest!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Easy to do!!!!! I just listened–couldn’t stand to watch them

          • twifan2

            I did Downton Abbey, ALL the Sherlocks! 🙂
            OH!!! Were you able to watch the Sherlocks on the links I sent you?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I am saving them for this weekend. Really can’t wait!!!! I will save those forever!!!!! Any info on who his fiance is??? I watched him in some other movies, and it wasn’t that great. Just love his Sherlock!!!

          • twifan2

            His Sherlock is his best-imo.
            She’s some sort of movie producer. I’ll send you links.
            There is a PBS documentary on there too. PLUS the VERY first episode-Lady In Pink-that was remade & that one televised.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I remember that one. He can produce all he wants as long as he never leaves Sherlock!!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Please, no spoilers for those of us who have to wait for TV airing.

          • WestCoastFeed

            And I couldn’t stand listening to them. Those voices were just too grating. And then. that insufferable Jim Marchese. Ugh!!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I agree–it was a mess- They have those screechy voices and constantly fooling with their bodies. Yuck!!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            It’s past my bedtime!!!!! I have loved today. Be well all and I will see you tomorrow!!!!!!

          • twifan2

            Sleep well! 🙂
            Love! Hugs! Pet The Pennster for me. I’ll pet Chats whenever I see him tonite, tomorrow. :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Sleep sweet honey! MWAH! Nighty-night!

          • twifan2

            BUT Tre pulling out of her drive way, going pass the prison walls will be gold for Bravo!
            They can try & get permission to interview her while in there.
            Ka-ching $$$

          • WestCoastFeed

            I just can’t imagine the Feds allowing cameras in prison. Has it ever happened before?

          • twifan2

            Yep.
            Charles Manson – Dianne Sawyer Documentary-2013
            John Wayne Gacy-1992

          • WestCoastFeed

            Manson is in a Calif. prison, not Federal. I assume John Wayne Gacy was also a state prison.

          • twifan2

            Lou Pearlman-serving 25 years for a Ponzi scheme.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Phone interview?

          • twifan2

            With a glass divide maybe.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I think Tre would have to be very desperate for money before she’d allow herself to be seen in prison. But she might accept a phone interview.

          • twifan2

            I actually do think IF given the right amount($) of incentive, she’d give an interview from prison-on camera.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Let’s get a pot going & hire Nancy Grace to do it!

          • twifan2

            I put in $1.00 🙂
            I’d love to see Nancy G go after Tre! :’D

          • Nene robs kids

            I would put a whole lot towards Nancy taking on Tre! Awesome TV for sure

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Same here Ne. Same here! I get almost giddy at the thought. Squeeee!

          • twifan2

            I shall ‘see’ you all tomorrows!
            Time for me to get some work done for tomorrow, then some sleep. 🙁
            Have a good evening! 🙂
            Laters!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Night Honey. Get some good sleep & have a good day tomorrow! Give Chats & Addie some love & a few treats. Night Twi.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Nancy would eat her alive!
            Nom, nom, nom!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Well said, my friend.

  • Anne Green

    What I take away from reading this complaint is the same as if John Q. Public was seen in the area of a homicide. He had on his person the same make and caliber handgun that killed the victim…..therefore, he MUST be guilty! There is no evidence to backup her accusations.

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Huh????

      • Anne Green

        Meaning the grounds in her complaint are pretty generic. There is no “specific” accusations such as on this exact date Mr. Kridel did this exact thing which was in violation of Rule such and such. There are no facts to backup the complaint.

        • twifan2

          In true Tre fashion! Lies.
          smh :/

          • noarguingwithstupid

            OK I am just a little slower than the average bear!!

          • twifan2

            Poo Bear! 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Huggy Bear!
            Old school version & new! LOL!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Hey Tig!!!!! Hope you are well. We missed you today. It has seemed to be Sunday to me all day long!!!!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yeah I was late coming out to play today. Mean ol’ boss made me actually work! WTH? LOL!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            The nerve of that boss!!!!! Glad you get to catch up now!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ha-ha. Thanks Honey. How are you doing today Love?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Yes! Thanks for joining our discussion. Can you all believe this complaint?

          • twifan2

            IKR!!! Do they actually mean we have to work for a paycheck?! ◔◡◉
            The nerve!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Seriously. I mean damn. I showed up isn’t that enough? Geez Louise!

          • twifan2

            I come back after my lunch break! What more do they want?! :/

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I hope they serve you the kind of scrumptious meals Google employees get (free, nutritious and yummy).

          • twifan2

            Free? Not in my ‘world’. 🙁

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I hear you. It seems otherworldly that they get free meals at Google.

          • twifan2

            I know they did, maybe still do at Microsoft.
            I miss those days. 🙁

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            See. Man! Can’t believe that. Tsk-tsk Twi. Ya give & give & it’s never good enough! SMH!

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Generic is a perfect characterization of this complaint. A complaint must contain a concise statement of the facts and plain statement of your claim(s) showing why you are entitled to relief. Do you think Teresa accomplished that? Neither do I.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Imho. I think the only think Teresa has ever accomplished is being a horse’s arse! Time & time again. She excels at it!

          • Nene robs kids

            Well she does excel and is very accomplished at spending stolen money too!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            & she’s got that ‘NO’ forehead thing down pat!
            Oh & lying & putting her 4 be-u-ti-full dawtters on display & throwing their lives down the toilet for love of money & name brand things. Woman excels at that like no other!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I agree. Just because you say something does not make it true. If you allege circumstances existed for malpractice, fine, then prove it and justify said accusation. There is really nothing specific in this complaint. I am shocked that dates are not included as to consultations and when Kridel was retained by the Giudices. Also, you have to point to where and what the negligent misrepresentation was.

  • Marsbars09

    Hi Stacy! Great article!
    Tre has lost her damned mind trying to sue her attorneys. She is the one that was deceptive and dishonest when it came to divulging information to them. The attorneys did their jobs based on the information the Giudices’ disclosed to them (or lack thereof).
    I really wish the judge would have thrown the book at Tre. Tre just doesn’t know or care how lucky she is to only have to serve 15 months for the horrific crimes she is convicted of.

  • murlut

    She is a “desperate housewife” now. Also a liar. Thirty more days and poof, behind bars her lying butt will be

  • twifan2

    THANK YOU STACEY for all your help, time & valuable info you’ve given me-us-in sorting thru this legal maze! 🙂

  • NJFan

    I wouldn’t want to disagree with “Foxy” but after reading this article I had to double-check that Touro Law Center was an ABA-accredited law school.

    Starting from the bottom, I take strong exception to “Foxy’s” statement “some lawyers take advantage of the GIFT (emphasis supplied) they have been given to practice law.” Someone may have given “Foxy” a “gift” but all the lawyers I know have spent years of their life studying law in law school, tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition, and then were required to cross the final hurdle of passing the bar exam before they EARNED the right to practice law.

    “Foxy” makes the point that relevant information that would otherwise have been comprehended by the attorney-client privilege could now become public; what she fails to mention, however, is that any attorney-client privilege that may have existed was arguably broken years ago when the attorney apparently consulted with his clients on camera. (I remember seeing it at the time and thinking, “What on EARTH is this guy doing? He’s compromising attorney-client privilege!”)

    “Foxy” goes on to assume that the on-camera meeting between Kridel and the Giudices took place before the bankruptcy paperwork was filed. She might want to actually to to the trouble of listening to the video; if she did, she would see that its subject is litigation that occurred during the pendancy of the bankruptcy action and well after the bankruptcy petition was filed.

    Why didn’t Teresa “raise this weighty issue with Judge Salas?” If it wasn’t addressed the motions her attorney filed with the court or addressed with the Judge in chambers (and “Foxy” offers no evidence that these things didn’t occur) I suspect it’s because no trial on the merits occurred in Teresa’s case because her guilty plea made it unnecessary. (As a caveat, I probably would have advocated for filing the malpractice case years ago, long before the criminal case or any guilty plea; I do understand, however, that Teresa’s attorney was a criminal attorney and not a civil one and he may well have advocated for focusing on the criminal issues first as they were obviously the most important.)

    “Foxy’s” discussion of “reasonable investigation” and her suggestion that the BPACPA requirement is a low bar that can be satisfied with a mere inquiry (which Kridel may not have even then made if, in fact, he filed the bankruptcy petition without speaking with Teresa) implies that “Foxy’s” unfamiliar with the practice of bankruptcy law. The BPACPA imposes two separate duties on the attorney representing a client in bankruptcy, one, that s/he conduct a “reasonable investigation” and two, that s/he make “inquiry” of his or her clients. Spouses are not required to file a joint bankruptcy (i.e., one spouse can file bankruptcy in his or her name alone while the other is not required to file at all) and an inquiry of Joe is not an inquiry of Teresa.

    But it’s “Foxy’s” deliberate mischaracterization of Paragraphs 7, 8 and 11 that I find most disturbing. The complaint specifically states “Plaintiff’s HUSBAND (emphasis supplied) consulted with Defendant Kridel,” that “After the consultation with Plaintiff’s HUSBAND (emphasis supplied), Defendant Kridel was retained” and that “Kridel never met with [Teresa] prior to filing the bankruptcy case.” There is no contraction here; Kridel could most certainly have met with Joe (not Teresa), Joe most certainly could have retained Kridel to represent himself and Teresa, and Kridel most certainly could have filed the bankruptcy petition and forms without ever meeting Teresa.

    But if that’s the way it happened, the attorney was wrong to have allowed it. When Joe said, “Ah, Jim, Tre don’ know nutin’ about nutin’! You just deal with me; I’ll take care of Tre.” that’s when it was incumbent on Kridel to say “Aw, I’m sorry, Joe, but that just won’t work. I’ve got to meet Teresa myself before I file a bankruptcy petition in her name. There are just some formalities I need to go through with her, some things I need to explain to her and some things I need to ask her, before I put her in bankruptcy, capish?”

    Joe really, really, REALLY screwed Teresa and many will say she stood right there and let him. But a lawyer’s duty is to protect his client from people who are out to screw them, even when it’s their spouse, not jump on the bandwagon with them and roll over their client with the cart!

    This is all just my humble opinion but I am a retired attorney and I have in the past given expert testimony in professional malpractice cases both on behalf of defendant professionals and on behalf of client plaintiffs. Contrary to “Foxy’s” assessment, by the way, this will not be driven by any desire on Kridel part to protect his reputation; it will be driven almost entirely by his malpractice insurer’s desire to limit their liability. The insurance company will pay for and provide the attorney who will defend Kridel and s/he will likely try to get Teresa’s case thrown out on a motion for summary judgment. In my opinion, this attempt will likely fail as the question of whether Kridel made a “reasonable investigation” and the extent of damages suffered by Teresa even before the criminal indictment are, among other things, arguably questions of fact for a jury (or a judge, assuming the role of a jury) to decide and therefore sufficient to survive a motion for summary judgment. If Kridel’s motion for summary judgment fails as I suspect it will, the insurance company will almost certainly then try to settle the case out of court with Teresa, to save itself the cost and risk of litigation. And again, all JMHO.

    • Fritz the. At

      So your point is teresa stands to make some money from this lawsuit? The fact that she admitted to crimes committed well before she filed bankruptcy doesn’t matter? I find that hard to swallow. The bankruptcy was the vehicle that got the Feds looking but teresa committed fraud before this and then went on to try to get out of paying her bills. How do you explain her verbally committing perjury in court when she was asked about her assets. She lied in open court. Did she do that because her attorney failed to tell her not to lie?

      • NJFan

        It’s not that I think the crimes she committed well before she filed for bankruptcy don’t matter. I just think they’re separate. If you run over someone with your car, does it matter that they robbed a bank the week before?

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          If they tried to sue me I think it would. Doesn’t past disregard for the law & an obvious lack of morals & character show a specific pattern of criminal.behavior? As Dr.Phil would say doesn’t past behavior constitute a pattern of continued criminal behavior on their part? Which in turn would make me question the validity of the argument being presented by the person looking to gain financially?

        • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

          But weren’t they tried on all three issues – bankruptcy, fraud and tax evasion, at the same time? If you ran over someone in the car that would be a separate trial to the bank robbery wouldn’t it?

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Teresa rescinded her bankruptcy & then refiled. (Sorry not sure if rescinded is the proper terminology.) I think that was when the red flags were raised. I feel like apparently they realized too late that the paperwork they supplied did not support the lies they told.
        She supplied falsified W-2’s. She signed documents stating she had a job & received a salary. I’m certain that Tre would never, ever lie or purposely omit truths to her attorney.

        • NJFan

          That’s the sad irony here. If Kridel had done what he should have done, consulted with her and made reasonable investigation, he’d be in the clear regardless of whether she’d lied. But if he didn’t even consult with her and at least give her a chance to tell the truth, no one can know for sure what she would have said and that’s a mistake he and his malpractice insurance company are likely going to pay for. JMHO

          • WestCoastFeed

            But at this point we just have her claim that he didn’t consult with her. He may have proof that he did.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I guess when you are dealing with a pathological liar, like Teresa imho. You can’t tell.
            When she was before the Judge she said she understood everything. When she was on national television she claimed she didn’t. Now this, so… who knows?

          • Your assumption that Kridel did not properly consult with Teresa therefore he’s guilty blew your cover. Sorry but you’ve loss all credibility.

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            NJFan – what in your opinion constitutes “reasonable investigation”? I assume that the Giudices and/or their financial advisors prepared the statement of assets and provided it to Kridel. What then, other than read through that statement with his client to ensure there are no omissions, can he do to verify it? To determine what income they had, contracts, lease agreements, revenue streams etc he would need surely to engage a forensic accountant. To verify their list of assets – just the ones at their house, he would need to physically inspect their property and even that would be no guarantee that they weren’t hiding items. And the bottom line is that Teresa and Joe signed that bankruptcy document verifying it’s contents so if they were aware that it was incorrect then where does that leave them? And if they didn’t know items were missing or understated in value then how on earth is Kridel supposed to know?

        • WestCoastFeed

          Tiger. we all (well I thought) that she had been allowed to withdraw from the bankruptcy. It turns out that was wrong. The bankruptcy was denied. But I didn’t learn that until the 39 counts went down and were available for all of us to read.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Clarification needed West. I didn’t say she was allowed to withdraw from the bankruptcy. I said I thought that they when they attempted to withdraw is when the red flags were raised. That hat’s when they, the Feds & such, started to look more closely & saw all the inconsistencies.
            I could be wrong, not sure.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes, when the lies came out in the bankruptcy court, that’s when the criminal investigation began. You said that they had refiled bankruptcy. That’s what I was disputing.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Oh, okay gotcha! Thanks.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Thank you for adding your view on this matter. This is fascinating.

    • Nene robs kids

      Your post is some what classless as I see it! The very first paragraph is not professional at all! If you really are an attorney and retired is where you should stay #JUSTSAYIN

      • NJFan

        LOL. There are those who would say that “classlessness” is proof positive I have practiced as an attorney!

        • WestCoastFeed

          Good! A sense of humor is requisite on this board. Welcome.

      • Fritz the. At

        I don’t see anything wrong with the post. It’s good to get different opinions from lawyers. They get paid to argue so he is just doing his job.

        • Nene robs kids

          I agree about differing opinions! But to attack someone’s credentials out of the gate is really classless to me.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I have to say I thought the tone set was a bit snarky & a tad harsh too towards Stacy, Ne. But since I can’t hear the actual tone I am trying to refrain from putting one to it. But I do see your point & I did feel the same tinge of defensiveness when I first read the post.

        • NJFan

          She — she is just sharing some things she learned while doing a job from which she is now retired.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Who is she? I thought that is you, your moniker that posted? Did I miss something?

          • I thought is was just me scratching my head.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yeah. I checked twice cause it threw me. LOL!

          • Sounds like Tamar Braxton. She refers to herself in third person as “she.” LOL!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            In the 3rd person? Creepy!

      • Ditto! I agree.

    • WestCoastFeed

      I take your point about Tre’s initial contact with Kridel. I do remember that on more than one occasion she was taped maintaining that she was completely unaware of the bankruptcy until Joe put the papers in front of her to sign. But does this new attorney offer evidence to substantiate that Kridel did not talk to her and investigate further before the papers were submitted?
      The other two counts don’t appear to have any grounds. But I am a complete layman so am very likely wrong.

      • NJFan

        It’s unlikely Teresa’s new attorney would make the straight-up statement he did in Paragraph 10 (“Defendant Kridel never met with Plaintiff prior to Defendant Kridel’s filing of the Bankruptcy Case.”) if he didn’t know it for a fact to be true.

        It’s difficult to prove a negative, of course, but If I were looking for evidence to support Teresa’s statement to me of that fact I would look at Kridel’s bills. Lawyers are ethically required to itemize everything on their bills (and this is especially true in bankruptcy, where expenses incurred immediately prior to the bankruptcy and during the bankruptcy are carefully scrutinized and controlled by the bankruptcy judge) and I would look carefully for things like “Meeting with Joe Giudice” or “Meeting with Joe and Teresa Giudice,” the latter of which would suggest she was lying to me, for example. I might also ask for things like Teresa’s taping and/or appearance schedule for the months preceding the bankruptcy filing, a personal calendar, that kind of thing. There’s probably other evidence out there that is suggested by facts that are unknown to me, but these things come to the top of my mind.

        I will tell you, though, my gut tells me Kridel didn’t meet with her or talk with her. When I looked at the things that were omitted from the bankruptcy schedules the first thing that occurred to me was that the items that were omitted all had to do with Teresa. My first thought was, “Oh, that’s because he was dealing with Joe! I bet he got all his information from Joe and Joe either wanted to protect Teresa’s assets and thought keeping them off the bankruptcy schedules was the way to do it — horribly mistakenly, of course, but isn’t that Joe’s modus operandi? — or he didn’t want Teresa to know he was planning for them to file for bankruptcy.”

        What will happen next is that Kridel will file an Answer and, in somewhat skeletal form, he will agree, deny, or say that he lacks sufficient information to either admit or deny each and every single point. He might admit that they didn’t meet, for example, but deny that he was negligent not to do so (and that would be what I would expect because what else is he going to say if in truth he didn’t meet with her or even speak to her?) If he admits they never met, neither side will ever have to prove it as both parties will have agreed on that fact and it will from then on be assumed to be accurate.

        The judge will then conference with the lawyers and they will set out a discovery schedule. After discovery, Kridel’s lawyer will draft a motion for summary judgment and submit a brief with it suggesting that there are no questions of law or fact to be decided and that as a result, as a matter of law Teresa’s case should be thrown out. Teresa’s lawyers will then object to that motion and file a brief in support of their objection, also referring to the facts that were discovered and explaining why there are relevant questions of fact and law that need to be decided and that, as a result, Teresa’s case should be allowed to proceed to trial. Kridel will then get the last bite of the apple as his attorneys will then have the opportunity to file a rebuttal brief addressing Teresa’s lawyers’ brief.

        Teresa’s lawyers are probably taking this on contingency; they’ll pay the cost of discovery (expert attorney witnesses on the subject of bankruptcy practice will have to be engaged on both sides, for example) and any other costs and those costs, which will be substantial, will be recovered first from any settlement or judgment she may win. Then there will be a split between Teresa and the attorneys of the remainder. I never worked on a contingency basis but in the jurisdiction where I practices a lawyer working on contingency would typically take 30% of the balance remaining after expenses if the case settled, 40% if it went to trial, and 50% if it went to appeal.

        If Kridel’s malpractice insurance company-paid-for lawyers think their case is weak (i.e., as lawyers themselves they think Kridel should have done some things he didn’t which, I’ve got to say, has been my own gut reaction as I’ve watched this unfold) they may smell blood in the water with respect to Teresa and, rather than incur the costs of discovery, offer a relatively low-ball settlement in the hope that she’ll take it out of desperation. And in all honesty, if it’s not too low it might not be unwise for her to take it if the costs of discovery, particularly in the form of expert witnesses, are going to significantly eat up any judgment she may hope for.

        I do feel sorry for Kridel but I suspect he’s seen this coming for quite awhile.

        • WestCoastFeed

          Thank you for a thorough explanation. I really appreciate it. I am also wondering if she still owes him a sizable amount of money and this will be more to wipe out some of her debt rather than add much to her and this new lawyer’s coffers.

    • You’re comment may have been a reasonable argument but when you start off by insulting Stacy, you lost me. No, thanks.

  • Nene robs kids

    I have no problem with differing opinion but IMO they should be done in a respectful way!

  • Fritz the. At

    It was. Not sure what you see that is not respectful.

    • Nene robs kids

      Attacking one’s credentials in the first paragraph is disrespectful to me.

  • Shelly Jones

    I don’t have the energy to read all this…I’m soooo OVER the whole TG saga. I cant take it anymore. There has to be someone else worth talking about.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Tre keeps throwing her own butt under the bus Shelly. Can’t help it if we all turn to look at the wreck when we hear the brakes screeching. (So to speak.)

      • Shelly Jones

        I get it Tigerlily…I understand its like a car wreck you cant help but watch….but I swear I’m over all things TG and RHONJ for that matter…so it’s really me.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Nah. You are not alone. Tired of the drama myself but I still am pining for some justice here. I honestly feel they have hurt so many people & still have not paid their due. Only reason why they keep pulling me back in Shelly. They keep pulling me back in! LOL! I need some kind of justice. I’m one of those people who loses their ish if I go to a movie & the bad guy wins. I’m like nu-uh. No way. The good guys always win. That ‘s why I go to the movies. Cause the GOOD guys always win! LMBO!

          • Shelly Jones

            I totally get what you mean about justice….its becoming ridiculous at this point…I honestly don’t believe that Tre is a criminal mastermind. I think she’s ignorant, naïve and does not get accountability. At some point, you as an adult have to take accountability for your action or inaction. Its sickening.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yup, the woe is me is quite tiring when your 42! Might work at ages 6 or 12 but even then 12 is pushing it. LOL! Ita Shelly.

          • Shelly Jones

            Alright, I cant stay away from my bed any longer. Have a good night. Don’t get yourself too worked up before bed, if you’re anything like me you will never get to sleep…. Justice will prevail!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks so much Shelly. Have a good night & sweet dreams. Thanks for chatting for a bit. & yes my mind has no off switch. As my hubby says, m always on! Have tons of trouble sleeping. Get some rest & have a great day tomorrow. Kick azz & take names. LOL! Night.

          • Shelly Jones

            LOL…..great! I think I will kick some azz today! You do the same.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Will do! Happy Friday Shelly & have a great weekend!

        • itsjustme

          I too am tired of the RHONJ drama. But am LOVING reading how Tre is handing her own ass to the courts. I keep reading and chuckling and reading and chuckling. This story is the better than any comedy sketch SNL could ever dream up…lol

  • Jennymckitty

    Wouldn’t Teresa at some point have to swear the bankruptcy petition was accurate and complete to the best of her knowledge?

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Yeah. She claims she just signed cause Juicy told her to. Now she seems to be trying the same ploy with the attorney she hired. Jmho.

      • Jennymckitty

        Wouldn’t her swearing to the validity of the documents make her responsible. It seems like if she attested to the accuracy of filing…whether she read it or not…she wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          I sure think so. Unless she made it somehow clear that she was signing say, under duress or something? I can’t see how she has a case. Ignorance is no excuse for the law. That’s like law 101. Try telling a cop I didn’t know I was actually drunk or I didn’t know what the actual posted speed limit is. Unless there are tapes or transcripts? I feel like it comes down to he said, she said. Who are ya gonna believe?

    • Yes. And that’s exactly what she did.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        Well said.

  • Nene robs kids

    This article was written by Stacy Slotnick,Esq Not “Foxy” that’s a twitter handle NOT her professional name

    • Shelly Jones

      I was like…”who the hell is Foxy” ???

      • Nene robs kids

        Her twitter handle is @thefoxyjurist

    • NJ Fan’s comment below is blatantly a snipe at Stacy and sounds personal.

      • Nene robs kids

        ITA and when you come out of the gate being in attack mode you lose your credibility with me.

        • I said the same below. Agree 100%.

          • Nene robs kids

            And this so called “retired attorney” didn’t offer up their credentials at all LOL

          • I agree.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            You can’t hide behind smokescreens. Show and tell.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          True NeNe if you have to attack someone on a personal level in your very first sentence, to make your point? To give your opinion?
          Everything you say instantly becomes invalid in my eyes. Anything intelligent you might have to say is lost. Right then & there.

          http://a.memegen.com/to15d3.gif

          • WestCoastFeed

            She has made some valid points, however. And I think her points merit consideration.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Imho West. First sentence was a personal snipe at Stacy & set a mean tone. Anything you say after that just invalidates anything intelligent they might have to say.

          • WestCoastFeed

            That’s not fair, Tiger. She may have been snarky, yes. But she was making sense with her evaluation of the case.

          • All About The Tea

            Check your email.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Not finding any email

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I disagree West. I feel what’s unfair is when you open your argument by being personal & questioning another professionals intelligence, education & accreditation? That’s not just “snarky”. I felt it was rude & uncalled for & I said so. Guess we will have to agree to disagree.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        I too have to agree. I thought the very first sentence was a snipe at Stacy’s education & accreditation. Don’t feel that it was called for to make their point. Differing opinions or not. & that of course is just MY humble opinion. I thought the tone was snarky & somewhat mean. Calling her Foxy with the quotes is quite personal. Gotta say a bit bitchy too. Sorry.

        • WestCoastFeed

          Like it or not, she made sense and what she had to say was worth consideration.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I am not arguing the intelligence of the poster or the validity or invalidity of the points they make to support their argument. What I am saying is that once you get personal. Once you start with that tone? I can not listen to any point you are making be it valid or invalid.

          • So what are your plans for the holiday? How is your new laptop?

          • WestCoastFeed

            Haven’t bought a thing. The kids will come here since I don’t drive far any more. No more putting up a tree for me. It’s just another year now that the grandchildren are late teens.

          • I know once the grandkids get older it’s not as festive anymore. I’m sure just having your family there is all you need. Enjoy the memories.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            New laptop? Yay! What did ya get West? I got a pretty good one. Not too pricey, considering. 8 gigs for under $400.

          • You can get really good laptops now for GREAT prices. I plan to get a new one for Christmas.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I heard they are saying that the best deals this year are coming late. So wait if you can. & shop everything.

          • That’s what I’m going to do. Maybe Christmas eve.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I was surprised when I heard that on the news. Like most I figured black Friday was the better deals, the best deals, like previous years but for some reason they say that this year, the best deals are still yet to be had.

          • WestCoastFeed

            A Dell. It’s taking me time to adjust the this new windows version.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            The 8.1 version?

        • So what are your plans for the holiday? Traveling this year?

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Nah! LOL! Good ol’ fashioned down home Christmas in good ol’ New York City.
            You? Any plans to vacay or travel for the holiday break?

          • A down home NY Christmas sounds awesome! I’m staying home also. I haven’t even purchased one gift yet. I better hurry up. We did however put up the tree.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Gotta go get my little Charlie Brown Christmas tree. LOL! Thankfully the nieces & nephews are grown so pretty much stick to gift cards. Only have to worry about the littlest ones. Only 8 of them so, easy peasy.

          • Aw, loving the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Love my little Charlie Brown tree!

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Thanks for the support! No doubt whatever occurred was aimed at protecting Teresa. You have to have a thick skin in this biz so it’s all good. I think if those of us with media experience took things personally we wouldn’t get anywhere. I know my resume and I am very proud of it and love the love you all show as well as your fantastic comments, questions, and insight. Thanks again!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Thank you for your time, patience and sharing your knowledge!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            No problem Stacy. I just didn’t appreciate the tone that was set with the first paragraph. Felt it was a snipe & a catty one to boot. Differing opinions are fine, but I felt the snide remarks were uncalled for.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            You are a gem and class act. Thank you very much for the support and consistently fabulous posts.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            You are tops! Thank you again for your super support.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Imagine if I went to court and said, “May it please the court. I am The Foxy Jurist, counsel for plaintiff.” I err on the side of professionalism in court but you are correct that The Foxy Jurist is my twitter handle and columnist name for Huffington Post. 🙂

  • THANK YOU Stacy for providing thorough legal analysis of Teresa’s malpractice suit.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      It is my pleasure! Happy Friday!!

  • Norrth

    Thank you for your review. I think the Giudices’ desperation has made them easy targets for “professionals” who keep telling them they can help them through this matter. How many people have they paid to help them manage this horrific mess they’ve created for themselves?

    Funny that Teresa is there calling Jacq a great friend and then turned on her for not setting Melissa up for her.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      So you think that her new attorney Carlos Cuevas initiated this legal malpractice claim? I think its entirely possible she was referred to him and asked, “What can I do to avoid jail and restitution?” He gave her a slew of options and hopefully discussed the pros and cons of each course of action. The thing is, she has enough experience with the legal system that I don’t think she is easily taken advantage of by lawyers who know more than her. She is looking for a way out, and sooner or later, she would find an attorney to do what she wants. Her argument for legal malpractice against Kridel wouldn’t be so far-fetched if the complaint was more robust but we don’t even have dates or specific facts of his negligence. Let me know what you think.

      • Norrth

        I never know what to believe about the Giudices any more. Your scenario is entirely the most plausible that they went to him to find out how to try to get out of everything, but I don’t know if they are savvy enough to know the difference between good advice and bad. Who the heck convinced them that they needed a PR person, for example? It made them seem, in my opinion, even more clueless about how big their issues are and that they look worse spending money on an image consultant rather than dealing with that debt. I think this is a bad look, too. I’m so glad you posted that clip. That’s the same visit with Joe saying you just have to lie because you are punished for being truthful (about forgery, no less) and Teresa agreeing and defending him. That’s what makes me think they are clueless about the legal system.

  • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

    Great post Stacy! Thank you for once again providing such a clear picture of what is happening here. It seems to me that Teresa is basically trying to assert that it’s all Kridel’s fault for not noticing that that they didn’t include certain assets and income on their statement of affairs. I would find it interesting if Teresa could demonstrate that she did earn $5 million from RHONJ, cookbooks and Fabellini (which she herself admitted on WWHL hadn’t yet made anything as herself and Joe had to invest “their” money in to it), if she has earned that kind of money then why on earth hasn’t she made any inroads in to the $13M debt?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      That’s an excellent point and part of the reason I find the $5M figure so outrageous, and a judge likely will as well. She can’t have it both ways. Either her brand is lucrative or it is not, meaning it has served as a pure investment for new ventures.

      • Poo

        Stacy, Surely this Carlos Cuevas, Esq didn’t take this case on contingency, did he?

        • Stacy Slotnick

          There are reports that he did. Thus, he won’t get paid anything unless he wins money for her. In general, most lawyers prefer NOT to do contingency cases because (1) there is a risk the firm will get paid nothing, (2) there is a risk the firm will get paid too much and the client may be frustrated by that, and (3) any payment is delayed until collected from the opposing party. In general, contingency fee percentages range from 33% to 40%, depending on the amount the client could potentially win, the strength of the case, and other factors.

      • Poo

        Looked up Cuevas credentials. Thought he would be lean and hungry but has been practicing for 30 years. Creds are not as impressive as Kridels though. Think he just wasted some of the firms money and goodwill of other practicing attorneys.

  • A Reader

    Great article and explanation Stacy. Thank you. I am not an attorney, but have been a paralegal for over 20 years. I know full well that any good attorney will have a plethora of notes, memos and correspondence in his file to support his legal actions. What I am struggling to understand is Teresa’s claim that the bankruptcy case and lawyer are the reason she is going to jail. I have no doubt her attorney has various memos and notes included in his client file that he will turn over to his malpractice team of defense attorneys and they will defend him vigorously. I do not understand Teresa’s claim that the bankruptcy is the reason she is going to jail. Isn’t the reason she is going to jail because Teresa and Joe lied on bank loan applications and utilized the US Mail and phone system to obtain those loans? Did she not question what he was doing or where the money was coming from that she so happily spent? In addition to obtaining fraudulent loans based on false information (pay stubs, W2s and income tax returns), they then also charge away and incurred astronomical debt to support a lifestyle they could not afford (credit card charges at stores, etc.) and resorted to bankruptcy because they did not have the income to pay those bills. I cannot wrap my head around this case. That said, I assume defense counsel will make it very costly for her to continue with this case. As they say, the truth shall prevail. I can’t help but wonder where all the money comes from to maintain her multi-million dollar estate, attorney fees, etc. while she is not making any money currently. I just have no respect for either Joe or Teresa who take no remorse for their actions but rather come across with their cavaliers attitudes as if they have done nothing wrong. Federal court documents anyone can obtain with a PACER account do not lie Teresa and Joe.

    • A Reader

      One more thought!!!! Will defense counsel offer Teresa settlement instead of litigating this case? Could she just be after a settlement of any amount?

      • Anne Green

        I think 2 or 3 of he charges that Teresa pled to are bankruptcy fraud charges. So she is going to prison for charges related to the bankruptcy. I think she feels that if her bankruptcy attorney were “competent” enough to represent her properly, she would not be going to jail for those charges. She did, however, plead guilty to these charges during her plea deal and again when asked by Judge Salas if she had any concerns with her legal representation….Teresa stated no she did not.

        • Nene robs kids

          And they continued to hide assets per Salas during her sentencing hearing. So what next she will sure that attorney also?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I think the logical way you worked through this legal malpractice suit is persuasive and directly on point. Teresa claims that Kridel mishandled their entire bankruptcy case on the thin justification that he never met with her and failed to perform a reasonable investigation before he filed the Bankruptcy Case (see pg. 2 of complaint). Though it was dropped in 2011, the bankruptcy filing — which Kridel oversaw for its duration — eventually led to both Teresa and Joe Giudice being charged with and convicted of federal fraud. Just because a party loses in court does not mean it is attorney malpractice. As I noted in the blog above, an attorney is not charged with offering his clients stupendous or invincible service as you well know as a longtime paralegal. Kridel merely had to act “reasonably,” which is such a low burden.

  • MorningYawn

    Why does ROL continue to insist that the guidice’s bankruptcy was discharged? I thought we’ve been over this! Yeeesh!

    • Nene robs kids

      ROL gets their info from Teresa so there you go! LOL

    • colleen

      Yawn, I can not for the life of me figure out who ROL is! HELP! pease and thank you

      • MorningYawn

        Haha! No worries! Radar Online. ;). Have a happy day!

        • colleen

          I would never guess that. Thanks, Doll

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Treape is also always on those trashy mags in grocery store–She must LOVE to see her face there!!

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      Because ROL is run by the moron squad.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        LOL!!!

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          It’s true, NAWS! As that miner in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid said when they were in Bolivia and going up the mountain, “Morons. I have MORONS on my team.”

          Such a great film.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Ha-ha! 4th, that asylum is run by the inmates! Not the fun, ‘Oh look, something shiny!’ kind. Nope. The super scary kind. /”’ (Ⓘ.Ⓘ) /”’ Eep!

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          Hahahahahaha! It really is over there. No moderators–total inmates running the asylum there. Terrible writing of the articles–typos, spelling errors–and even incomplete sentences. Those writers took English lessons from Teresa Giudice.

          • twifan2

            AND still failed her courses! (⊙.⊙(☉̃-☉)⊙.⊙)

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Hee-hee! How sad is that? Are you smarter than a Giudice?
            Errr, ummm, sadly… No!
            Special short-bus at ROL?

          • twifan2

            Bus? There’s a bus? They missed it then! 😀

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Hahahahaha! New television show idea: “Are you smarter than a Guidice?” (replaces that show, are you smarter than a 4th grader — or whatever it was). Except the contestants would always win because Teresa and Joe are as dumb as dirt (and twice as ugly).

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Oh yes!!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I wonder if her kids are doing ok in school–got to be hard to study with all that ape crap going on in that house!!

          • twifan2

            IF they are Tre’s doters, then they are doing as their mather. Nothin is wrong. The world is all rosey & cotton candy.
            Bad situation all around. :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ha-ha-ha-ha! They sure did! I gave up on any type of moderation over there many many stalkings & trollings ago. LOL!
            But the fact that these illiterates get paid? That chaps my butt!

          • twifan2

            T-Lily, let’s go ‘offer’ our talents to ROL’s writing staff! 🙂
            We b sew eedjamacated! ≧◉-◉≦

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            You two would be a VAST improvement, even using your linguistic talents as they are above. I bee edumacated twos.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I nose dat foredth _*.*_

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            LOL.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            It’s funny. Who ever though that being extremely proficient at stenography would help me so many years down the line to type or should I say, “tawlk like a AZZ!”? LMBO!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Bahahahahahaha!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Phonetics! The more you ‘don’t’ know???

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Someone should pass along http://www.hookedonphonics.com to Teresa and her FAMBLY.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Rosetta Stone English?
            English for Dummies? The audio & video versions only of course

          • Nene robs kids

            I’ll send her the Italian version also so she can practice for when Joe gets deported!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            B-O-O-M!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Hee hee! It would HAVE to be one of those “for dummy” books or perhaps even one that mostly relies on pictures. I get the feeling that Teresa hasn’t read much Hemingway in her life. Hahaha.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Sure she has. Ain’t he dat “guy”? Ya know dat guy whose doughs does tings fur us?

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Hahahahahaha!! As I said, Tiger–you’re on a roll today! You’re getting your funny going before the weekend. =) I’m enjoying it!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ha-ha! Good 4th. Payback for all the times you gals had me running to the bathroom legs crossed, trippin’ over the damn cat!
            Besides, it makes me feel good knowing I can get you ladies going & having some fun, all of us together!
            Well except for the occasional Tre-hugger that pops up now & then.
            Glad to be of service!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Laughter is nourishment for the soul!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            It is. It truly is. I love to be silly with my friends. Love to laugh. Live for it!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Me too!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yas, we sure be dat! Sooper jeanussesses!
            Catholamic skewl. RAH!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Do they really get paid? I thought they must all be illiterate interns. :/

      • LMAO!!

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          Hi Doc!

          • Hi Heels. Happy Friday, sweets! ♥︎

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            You too! Enjoy the weekend. I’m making Holiday cards this weekend. I’m not a fantastic artist but I love making my own Holiday cards with lace, buttons and other things I have around my house and costume jewelry I no longer use (or that is broken). I love gluing things!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Glue guns? Best thing ever invented!
            (*Said in my best Simpsons comic book guy voice.*)

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Oh I love me a glue gun! And plan on using it this weekend!

          • I love homemade cards and gifts, they have more meaning imo. Kudos to you for taking the time to add your own personal touch! Have a fab weekend!

    • The 1st page of the final decree, states discharged denied.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      To be crystal clear, United States Bankruptcy Court judge Donald H. Steckroth denied the couple’s request to erase exactly $13,480,263.11 in debt on September 29. “The case of the above named debtor(s) is closed,” Judge Steckroth wrote. Thus, they are stuck with outrageous debt.

      • MorningYawn

        That’s what I thought! They had an article again today that mentions it was discharged. Of vey!

  • Nene robs kids

    Teresa and Joe obviously consented to speak to their attorney on the show

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Turbo mouth Joe!!

      • Nene robs kids

        And Dumb Dumb Teresa

        • noarguingwithstupid

          a marriage made in heaven–what a pair of dimwits!!

        • noarguingwithstupid

          She’ll run her mouth about lawsuits, but won’t talk about her fambly???? (and pennies!!!!)

          • Nene robs kids

            Anything to continue to make herself appear a victim of lawyers. judges etc.

      • Raine Woman

        NAWS…is that really you???

        • noarguingwithstupid

          Yes my sweets!!! I am back!!!! I am disabled but back on the scene!!! I am still getting my feet wet and have forgotten a lot about posting!!! So good to see you!!!!

          • Raine Woman

            Yay!!!! I’m so happy to see you posting. The comment section just hasn’t been the same without you! You’ll get right back into the swing of posting. How you kept all that wonderful snark of yours bottled up for so long is a mystery. Let it out, NAWS!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I have severe osteoporosis and I am a walker-using predisone pill, but glad I have come back!!!!! It’s crazy how much you forget when you are out of the loop for a while!!!!! Hope all is well with you and yours. It’s so good to hear from you ((((Hugs)))))

          • Raine Woman

            You keep pushing that walker and popping those pills if it means you get to be here with us! Teresa’s sentencing day was not the same without you! So glad you are feeling better, NAWS, truly! (((Hugs)))

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Thank you Raine!!! It’s good to be back and great to hear from all!!!! 2014 was a mess, but surely 2015 will be better!!! ((((hugs)))))) to you!

          • Jennymckitty

            NAWS, great to see you!!! Happy dance.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Thank you Jenyy!!!!! Love that kitty face!!!! Good to hear from you!!

  • colleen

    I thought, at first, Krindle was voluntarily taking the rap for ineffective counsel to reduce the monies owed or reduce jail term. After reading your article, this is not the case with the Giudices. Still scrambling to find a scapegoat to place blame for getting caught.

    P.S.So Stacey. “The” is your real first name, middle name “Foxy” last name “Jurorist” ?!? Lol

  • Raine Woman

    It’s official…in my next life I want to be Stacy Slotnick, Esq. Thank you for this wonderful breakdown!

    It’s really a testament to what a great country we live in when a MORON who pleaded guilty to and was convicted of BK fraud can then turn around and sue her BK lawyer for malpractice. God Bless America!

  • colleen

    Kurt Nurmi, defense council for Jodi Arias, wanted off that trial from the start. During her penalty phase, it sure seemed he was begging for a charge of ineffective counsel. Same thing with attorney Mark Geragos representing Scott Peterson. So this is not an unusual tactic, Stacy?
    Thanks for all the investigating and reporting. So appreciated. Thanks to AATT for a most interesting Q&A forumn

  • RonnieIsBack

    This was an excellent breakdown Stacey!
    Sidebar: Just leaving a note to you all. I will be out of pocket for a bit. I had a death in the family it is heartbreaking to say the least. I have a lot to attend to for the next couple of weeks. I will log back on soon.

    • noarguingwithstupid

      I am so sorry for your loss. I will keep you in my prayers. Take care.

    • Raine Woman

      Take care, Ronnie. My deepest condolences. 🙂

    • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

      Deepest sympathy to you and your family Ronnie. Look after each other.

    • DLister

      Ronnie, my sincerest condolences and wishes for lots of love to surround and heal…

    • Jennymckitty

      Ronnie, I am so sorry to read this. You will be in my prayers.

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      So sorry to hear this Ronnie. My condolences.

    • Anne Green

      Ronnie, I am so very sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family during this difficult time.

    • Trippinhhard

      So sorry to hear this Ronnie , you and your family have my sympathy.. God bless you in your time of need..

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Ronnie, I am so very sorry about your loss. My deepest & heartfelt sympathy to you. My condolences to you & your family.
      Thoughts & prayers to you all.
      Big, big hugs Sweetie. I am certain I can speak for us all when I say your AAtT Family loves you. We are here for you if you need us. Just give a shout.
      I am so very sorry Love. Wish there was more that I could say or do.

    • Nene robs kids

      So sorry for your loss! You will be in my prayers!

    • twifan2

      I am so sorry to hear about your loss, RonnieIsBack! 🙁
      You & yours are in my thoughts & in my prayers! Stay strong! ❤

    • Ronnie…my deepest condolences to you and your family. No one can prepare you for a loss; it comes like a swift wind. But take comfort in knowing that she is now resting in the arms of our Lord. Sending my love & prayers! ♥︎

  • BooHoo

    Can’t these 2 just hang it up and call it a day accept responsibility. Disgusting whiners.

  • fedup

    Why no index number? Can’t afford the fee?

    • fedup

      sorry, missed the inscription on the top

  • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

    This was a fantastic report and breakdown. Excellent work Stacy (and how gorgeous are you?).

    It will be really funny if this backfires (and it really could) and Teresa ends up serving even more time?

    One question that I have to ask is why would a new attorney take this mess on? Stacy–what would the benefit be for this new attorney. Sorry if this has been asked–I haven’t yet scrolled through all the comments (and likely won’t have time to, although I will read some of them for sure).

    • Poo

      Its on contingency. If she wins, Cuevas will get 35% to 40% of recovery per Stacy

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        Then he must believe there is a chance of winning because attorneys won’t take contingency cases (from what I know of the law which is minimal I admit). That’s amazing. I thought it was a BS lawsuit. Or is he a total hack and just wants the publicity? I don’t get it. I wish Stacy could answer this.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      You are beyond kind and I am elated you enjoyed the article and breakdown. It was a fantastic opportunity to shed my legal light on the summons and complaint for AATT posters. The general observation is that bringing a lawsuit against any professional is challenging, but a legal malpractice claim can be especially difficult to prove. Based on the bare bones complaint, I don’t see a winnable case for legal malpractice. It would be wholly my speculation that Cuevas, who took her on as a client for this civil matter on a contingency basis, is seeking to use it for publicity and generate new clients in the process. But that is not unusual per se, as many lawyers take on nearly impossible cases so that they can drum up new business for their firm and perhaps parlay their newfound notoriety for free advertising.

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        Thank you so much for your explanation. So basically, Cuevas is using Teresa to drum up publicity (and you know, you have a point–ALL publicity can generate business). As you said–it’s like free advertising!

        I agree that the term “foxy” mean smart and savvy–but Stacy–in your case, it truly has a double meaning because you are smart, savvy AND gorgeous.

        Thank you again! 🙂

        • Stacy Slotnick

          You are so welcome. I’m glad I helped narrow down the field of potential reasons why Cuevas may have taken on this malpractice case. Your thoughtfulness and highly generous compliments are immensely appreciated. I’m grateful to posters like you!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Aw shucks! You are awesome!

  • noarguingwithstupid

    Did everyone see Treape when she was at a party and dressed up like a nurse?????? I thought I was going to die laughing!!!! And then someone asked her if she was stupid!!!!!!! Pushed her button, for sure!!

    • twifan2

      NAWS!!! 🙂
      How’s youses today? Chats says Howdy Doo
      *he’s been in the catnip again* :/

      • noarguingwithstupid

        okey dokey!!! Gorgeous weather here—-How about you??? Hope you and the limping Chats are ok!!!

        • twifan2

          Raining & cold here today. 🙁
          Chats is Chats-what can I say?! 😀
          How’s The Pennster doing?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            She is fine–just had her breakfast and now is settled down for a nappie poo!!

          • twifan2

            Give a pat from me!
            Chats says to give HIM her treats, not to give them to Penny. :/

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Chats still has to learn to share!!!!! Have you dragged her outside lately? I will never forget those pictures of him in his red harness being dragged outside!!!!!

          • twifan2

            He doesn’t fit in that harness anymore. 😮
            Chats will neva share *his meows, not mine*

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Neither will my little piranha! I always have to do a finger count if I dare to tempt fate & hand feed her a treat. Nip? Nip is toss it & run away! RUN for you lives!

          • twifan2

            Chats’ the same way. Drop it or loose it! 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            It’s like their freakin’ possed.

          • twifan2

            YEP! Uh HuH! YEAH!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Love, love, love these pics. Possesed is great!!! Can you imagine walking into that????

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Oh Naws, she gets crazed. You gotta use metal tongs to hand off the nip! Or you’ll be pulling back a nub!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Years ago I was visiting my neighbor and walked in her house and her 2 Siamese jumped on my head!!!!! Just trying to be friendly, I guess!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Holy Moley! Attack kitties! LOL!
            There is a reason why it’s called the cat crazies!

            http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnynbvNFL61qjmniro1_400.gif

          • twifan2

            I do, every evening if I’m late to give SOMEBODY their dinner! :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            So true! If they can see the bottom of the bowl? Well that must mean the Authorities have abandoned them! LOL!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Is this the rabbit or the black knight????? Killer rabbits are the best ever!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿
          • noarguingwithstupid

            They make such good weapons of mass destruction!!!!!

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      When was she dressed as a nurse? I stopped watching this show around the time the Giudices filed for BK. Couldn’t stomach them after that.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        At a first responders party!!!! She tried to look sexy, but giant fail as aways!!!

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          Bwahahahahahaha. Her life is a major fail!

        • twifan2

          Oh I remember now. I saw a pic of that-I thought it was from porn movie she was in!
          Look below-might have to refresh to see pic.

          • TheBeverlyHillsHaveEyes

            That forehead!!! Teresa is starting to look like Simon Cowell in a wig. And he looks like Hermann Munster. Stay away from the Botox people!!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Yes, she really thinks she’s hot!!!! Hardly enough forehead for hat though!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            She said it was the first costume she saw. She should have looked a little harder. Maybe gone with something that had a mask? A burqa perhaps?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Burqas were made especially for her in mind–The only way I can look at her!!!!

          • Hahahahaha!! She does think she’s hot.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      She could have stopped all the laser treatments & gone as her chimp self.
      She would have saved $$$ on the costume purchase & the the extra bonus cash on not paying for the laser treatmen…

      Oh yeah, she doesn’t pay for chit! What am I saying?

      Well would be a win-win for Tre either way. She could have taken that cash & put in into her 4 be-ooutiful dawttersesess college fund. Oh wait, she doesn’t do that either.

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        That’s “Dortahs” to you.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          From Staten Island originally. Sometimes when I’m very relaxed the accent comes back. Whaddyagunnado?

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            That explains it! =)

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            FOTFLMFAO!
            Bazinga! LOLOLOLOLOL!
            Stepped right into that one! Perfect pitch. Incoming!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Hahahahahaha. You’re on a roll today, Tiger.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            You too Hon. You too! Full-on Friday Snarkfest!
            ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪!♪♫•*¨*• LOVE IT! ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪!♪♫•*¨*•
            Love it here! Love that we can joke & laugh & just have some good ol’ fun joshing with each other & nobody gets butt hurt!

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            I agree! This is a great site. I’m glad I came back.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            So glad you did too! ¯(ツ)/¯

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Me too!!!!! I am thrilled you are back!!! (Hugs)

          • twifan2

            AND for coming back…YOU 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals gets Chats as an added bonus!
            ENJOY! 🙂

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Aw, thanks guys! I’ve missed you all!

  • twifan2

    Ok, I’m back in Confuddled world-again.
    Tre’s bankruptcy case is a civil case, right? So what does that have to do with her being taken to Federal court & sentenced to prison. It’s two different courts.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      I believe she’s attempting to prove that her bankruptcy lawyers ineptness caused her “harsh” sentence in her criminal case. I think that’s what I understood. She confuses & befuddles the heck outta me too Twi. She makes my brain hurt. You know now that I think about it? I don’t understand any of this! LOL!

      • twifan2

        But T-Lily, the Feds are who charged her. She’ll still have to serve her time.
        It’s apples & oranges. BUT then again, it’s all about the $$$ with Tre!
        :/
        *goes & gets some Tylenols away from Chats*

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          I know. It confuses me. But I thought because Judge Salas stated that because Tre didn’t do what was required, she had no choice but to give her time instead of just house arrest. I don’t know anymore. Now I’m just befuddled & my head hurts. Phew! Ask Chats to pass the tylenol please.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I just took some too–makes my head hurt!!

          • twifan2

            I’m needing 2 boxes of wine! 😉

          • Nene robs kids

            Teresa and Joe did not list all their assets to Judge Salas court which is totally separate from the bankruptcy court. They had many months to report all this and were not truthful AGAIN!

          • twifan2

            This was done in a Federal court. Which of course she didn’t do as told & that got her into more troubles with the judge-who in turn gave her prison time!
            *chugs down a glass to clear the fog* 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            See I’m mixing up the 2 cases & courts now. FFS. Idk anymore.
            *Tigerlily’s head explodes.*

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I just want her in jail. I don’t really give a damn how it’s done, just get her to big Bertha and be done with it!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            I will volunteer to drive her to Bertha’s big house (her new home) is today good? lol

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I’m in Florida, but I’d be willing to sit in back seat just to see it!!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            You can be in charge of the handcuff key also!

          • twifan2

            *gives Chats the handciff key for ‘safe’ keeping*
            NAWS, it’s taken care of. 😉

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Legal malpractice is a wholly civil matter. It is separate and apart from her federal fraud and bankruptcy case even though you need the facts from one to prove the allegations in another. Does that make sense now?

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Yes. Thank you! I was flummoxed because I knew that they were somehow tied to each other but couldn’t quite sort out why. Thanks Stacy. Appreciate it!

          • twifan2

            I would NEVA want to spend any time in Tre’s head!
            That be too scary! 😮

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Of course. Glad I could help.

          • A Reader

            Stacy, stupid question but how does new attorney communicate with Teresa after she goes to jail? How will they strategize their case?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            That is not a stupid question in the least. Many people wonder if there are different rules for attorneys versus family/friends of inmates. In terms of visiting and communicating face-to-face, almost every facility has special visiting hours. Some facilities have extended hours for attorneys. As far as phone calls and emails go, she will have pretty liberal use of both unless she causes trouble or is a danger inside the prison to herself and others.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Good question. Legal malpractice is a civil matter. Think of their federal bankruptcy case and fraud case as something entirely different.

      • twifan2

        So if Tre wants to TRY & stay out of prison, she should take the Federal court, Judge Salas to court?
        LOL I’d LOVE to see her even try! 😀

        • Nene robs kids

          And her attorney for Salas court was someone other than the one she’s suing now or the new one she has now! Lawyer shopper!

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Lawyer shopping happens A LOT in matrimonial cases, including divorce and child custody and when you get to the appellate level as appellate attorneys have special expertise in handling appeals. Teresa clearly is not satisfied with any of her counsel as it relates to her criminal charges.

          • Nene robs kids

            Because the end result is not what Teresa wants!

        • Stacy Slotnick

          It is my guess she thinks that my showing incompetence of counsel in civil court the federal court will pay attention. I do not believe this tactic will work. Plus, let’s keep her sentence in context. She is going away for a total of 15 months, not 15 years.

          • twifan2

            Oh good heavens! By the time-if even ever-her case would be heard she’d already have served her 15 months.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I know. The problem is the case at that point would not get dismissed for mootness even if she is done serving her sentence because she argues in the complaint that his actions caused damage to her reputation and businesses, which she claims is an ongoing “injury.”

          • twifan2

            All Mr. Kridel needs to do is show clips of Tre in all her foot-in-mouth glory!
            Case dismissed! 🙂

    • Poo

      twi, it left civil and went Fed when bankruptcy, bank and IRS fraud were all discovered. Otherwise known as “playing with the big dogs”

      • Poo

        I just read her plea deal and she could have gotten 20 years. Also she signed a full disclosure stating “I want to plead guilty pursuant to the plea agreement. She knew damn well what she was signing regardless of what she said on WWHL. No Judge Salas, I don’t think Teresa got it !!!

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        & boy oh boy did they get bit in the azz!

  • itsjustme

    This gets better every day! Seeing that video of her and Joe meeting with the lawyer is PRICELESS! Is she truly that stupid? Or is her new lawyer that fame hungry that they will do anything to get their 15 minutes by being hired by this bat shit crazy person!

    • Nene robs kids

      I bet Dumb Dumb does understand that she has 30 days to surrender to the Federal Penn! I just love the countdown clock can you tell? LOL

      • A Reader

        Can you imagine the temper tantrum she will throw the week before she is to report. 30 more days!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      It provides excellent evidence for Kridel to say, “Roll the footage and see that Teresa and I met, discussed the case, and she was satisfied with my services.” I once had to handle an estate case where the Will was contested. Video evidence can be golden.

      • Poo

        Stacy, I just read the plea agreement. It stated that if the judgement doesn’t remain in full force, further charges can be made. Is she trying to alter her judgement. Doesn’t that leave her wide open for prosecution of further counts? Also, only one major count was on bankruptcy, the others were Failure to file income tax and bank fraud. How does this action help her.

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Yes! She has opened the door to further investigation of any additional illegal activities she may have engaged in by suing her lawyer.

          • twifan2

            OH goody! More confuddlement coming! 🙂

          • Stacy Slotnick

            If he gets his day in court, yes, he can reveal confidences she made during his representation of her so that he can defend himself. Could some of those confidences prove additional illegal acts were committed by her? Hmmm….

          • twifan2

            Hope her new lawyer told her that! He’ll be next on her ‘To Sue’ list. 🙂

          • Nene robs kids

            I bet she will also sue the attorney that represented her in Judge Salas court also! Since she’s still claiming she didn’t understand that signing the plea deal could send her to prison. Even though Judge Salas also went over that with her in detail in court while her attorney was there

          • Poo

            I just read it and trust me Nene a 3rd grader could understand it. Plus she signed, dated it and crossed her t’s and dotted her i’s.

          • Nene robs kids

            ITA

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Looks like Tre might be vying for Lean (Leaky Shart-myself again) Rimes’ crown. I thought she was the “sue you” Queen!

          • Poo

            Oh my God, publically she has impugned attorneys, accountants and Judge Salas (she didn’t understand her plea bargain) This could end very poorly for her. There were multiple counts that were pushed aside for that plea deal. For it to become null and void could be her kiss of death.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Here’s where I am confuddled. The claim is not that Kridel never met with her, as I read it. The claim is that he never met or spoke with her PRIOR to filing. We know they spoke after filing because we have that video. She says in the claim that Joe met with and retained him, but she was not present.

        • Where in the complaint does it say PRIOR?

          • WestCoastFeed

            Paragraphs 10 and 11 for at least one spot.

          • Then why did she sit in his office and agree to what he was saying after he filed? Also, why didn’t she say in the video (as Kridel walked in) FINALLY good to meet you in person? That was not obviously the 1st time they met in person because she had to sign the completed petition in his presence which is notarized.

          • WestCoastFeed

            That video just proves that at some time they did meet. What she is claiming, as I understand it, is that he did not do his due diligence when he neglected to meet or consult her prior to the initial filing.

          • Refer to Stacy’s response above to you.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            The complaint, pg. 2, paragraphs 7 & 8, show that Kridel consulted with Teresa and “after that consultation” Kridel was retained as counsel. You are correct that she is arguing he did not reasonably represent her, but due diligence is not the standard in the law — reasonableness is.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Not as I understand the wording. And I think the wording is deliberately obfuscating. It says that Joe met with him and that “after consultation” he was retained to represent them both. Nothing in that wording says she was party to the consultation about retaining him.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            It doesn’t really matter if she met, spoke, telephoned, etc. because Kridel was retained to “represent both Plaintiff and her husband.” Whether she had individual conversations with him is irrelevant.

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Let me very quickly direct you to pg. 2, paragraph 10, of the complaint, which claims Kridel committed malpractice because he “never met with Plaintiff prior to Defendant Kridel’s filing of the Bankruptcy case.” That is not unreasonable. Then in paragraph 11, same page, she claims “Kridel never even spoke with Plaintiff prior to Defendant’s Kridel’s filing of the Bankruptcy Case.” So long as they discussed the case and he consulted with her, meeting and speaking at one particular point in time is not evidence of malpractice.

          • WestCoastFeed

            That is what she is basing her claim on. as I understand it. She claims that if he were doing his due diligence as her counsel, he should have consulted her before filing. You are saying that was not necessary?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            An attorney is not required to consult with a client before filing paperwork. The complaint says that she did consult with him. If Kridel filed in spite of things she told him, that would rise to the level of malpractice. Now, failing to perform an adequate investigation for your client is not malpractice. The standard is so incredibly low as to what amounts to legal malpractice. Let me give you an example. There was a case where someone on trial for first degree murder had an attorney who fell asleep during opening arguments. The appellate court said that was not legal malpractice even though the defendant was convicted.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Thank you. That was where it looked to me like she had some grounds for her claim. That he had filed without even talking to her.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Not a problem. If Kridel filed without telling her that is not malpractice because he was her attorney and was under a duty to file timely BUT if he filed and she said not to or “hey, there is more information you need to include” and he failed to heed her warnings, that might rise to the level of malpractice. The problem with this complaint is it is very bare bones so we do not know what the specifics are.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Does that fact that Teresa publicly stated that she knew “nothing” about the bankruptcy mean he even needed ti discuss it with her in the first place? I mean she claimed she was in the dark all this time. That she had no knowledge, so what is there to discuss with her?
            Just kidding. Being a snarky wisenheimer now! I know she was named on the documents, so of course she should have a clear understanding of her situation.
            Ha-ha! Tre. Clear understanding. Never thought I’d ever see those words strung together in one sentence!

          • Anne Green

            If she had said…”hey, there is more information you need to include” before he filed but filed anyway, that would pretty much negate her “I never spoke to him before he filed” argument.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Excellent logical deduction. This whole “I never met him” is not relevant and I still say this issue should have been raised (if it was credible and real) during plea negotiations and sentencing. You snooze you lose.

  • Nene robs kids

    Stacy I want to be sure I understand this so here goes:
    In the bankruptcy filing Joe and Teresa did not report all their income and assets
    In Judge Salas court which is totally different they were also required to report all their assets and income to Salas court. Not only did they not report assets but they also had months to do so. I also think I remember Teresa trying to blame the accountant for this. It seems that I remember Probation going to their house and seeing ATV’S cars and more they did not report. Once again like an attorney the accountant is not responsible for going to their home to inventory assets. Am I correct?

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      Great questions!

    • twifan2

      TY Nene robs kids! That’s where I got confuddled. Tre was supposed to report all that to the Federal court as requested by Judge Salas. That’s what got Tre her prison sentence-it helped.
      Tre’s bankruptcy filing didn’t directly get her that prison sentence.

      • Nene robs kids

        Correct and Judge Salas was very clear that Teresa needed prison time since she was not forthcoming to her court and was late in getting her the info also.

        • twifan2

          I can’t help but wonder just how much was never disclosed & what would have happened if she did give full disclosure?! :/

          • Nene robs kids

            Well she not only got prison time but Judge Salas also gave them over 400K in fines and 12K in court fees and this is over and above the 13.4 mill still owed. But she did make a 200k payment to Salas court not long ago.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I thought she did not have the money. Turbo Joe I thought said it was “arranged” and then lost?????

          • Nene robs kids

            She paid that 200k soon after she done WWHL with Andy

          • noarguingwithstupid

            OK. Now I get it, I think!!!!! Gosh, I wish the Tylenol would kick in!!!

      • WestCoastFeed

        No, but because it was fraudulent it led the Feds to investigate more and find the previous mortgage and loan frauds. In her mind, Kridel is to blame or all of it. She is headed for jail because he screwed up, not her.

        • twifan2

          I’m speaking of the Federal court, WCF.
          Tre was supposed to have her paperwork reported to them since March. She didn’t.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes, twi. And I am saying that, Tre is placing the blame for her even being in Federal court on Kridel and on what she claims was his mishandling of the bankruptcy. I will wager that she has even convinced herself that is what happened.

          • twifan2

            Trelusional as ever. So sad. :/

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Yes. Well said. Your attorney should advise you through the process but it is up to you to cross your “T’s” and dot your “I’s.”

  • Mommyof4qtpies

    Teresa said “The truth shall set you free”!

    • twifan2

      AND yet again free-loading off the taxpayers.
      Geez, it never ends with her! :/

      • Mommyof4qtpies

        I don’t think it ever will! She is a professional scam artist and that’s all she knows.

        • Nene robs kids

          IMO she needs to publicly thanks all of us for the bologna sandwiches and trash we will be paying to feed her! lol

          • Mommyof4qtpies

            LOL yes!!!

      • Stacy Slotnick

        That is what astounds me about people who want her to have a Merry Christmas and not analyze the case SHE filed. The problem is there are victims to her crimes, i.e., taxpayers and the government.

        • twifan2

          & speak of one of those ‘people’ who just showed up up top. :/
          Here we go…

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I love the “collapse” button!!!

          • twifan2

            Don’t the TreHuggers & Tre know that ‘nature abhors a vacuum’?! Geez! :/

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Agreed. It’s been my humble experience that people who make sweeping declarations shrouded in non-specifics are usually lying and masking the truth.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Agree!!!! And it is usually VERY confusing to follow on purpose!!!

        • twifan2

          HOW can she keep track of her own lies, actions when we can’t? o.0

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I’ve given up. I just read what you all say–It’s all Greek to me!!!!

          • twifan2

            This is a case for SHERLOCK!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Yes indeed!!!

          • twifan2

            *le sigh*

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I think even Sherlock would take out a gun and shoot some folks!!!!

          • twifan2

            I;ll load the gun & you can give it to him, NAWS! 🙂

      • Mommyof4qtpies

        Another great blog Stacy! Teresa really puts the CON in conartist!

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Thanks so much Mommyof4qtpies! She likes to play the blame game and make accountants and lawyers the “fall guys” for her indiscretions.

          • Mommyof4qtpies

            Exactly!

  • Dana

    With the holidays here, could we give Teresa a break? Do it for the sake of the kids.

    • twifan2

      Here’s her break…
      Happy Holidays! 🙂
      *refresh your screen*

      • I heard he’s engaged. Say it ain’t so.

        • twifan2

          It’s so… :'(
          *balls into box of wine*

          • WestCoastFeed

            Please, don’t tell my granddaughter. At least, not until after the holidays.

          • twifan2

            NOT saying a word!
            At least Sherlock-the character-isn’t seeing anyone. 🙂

    • shayvoe

      NO! When did she ever give anyone a break? In exactly 30 days, reality will finally slap her in the face for the first time in her life. That’s her break….clink…clink!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I respect your position, Dana, and we all appreciate the post! The challenge many posters have with her position is that she set the wheels in motion with this latest legal filing. She could have filed it when the damage initially occurred (March 2014) so as not to coincide with the holidays. I think too people are angered that she stole money and there are victims other than her, namely taxpayers and the government.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Right on Stacy!!!!!

      • twifan2

        AND she never apologized to any of her ‘victims’!

        • Nene robs kids

          Nor has she attempted to pay them back

        • noarguingwithstupid

          Did you see when Chris Laurita said that she would never be sorry for anything???? Truer words never spoken.

        • Mommyof4qtpies

          Nope! Only her “fans”!

          • twifan2

            All of them?!
            Short apology then. 😉

          • Mommyof4qtpies

            Yep! Probably only 1 (Leopard Man) 😉

          • twifan2

            That boy is as trelusional as she is! smh :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            The thing that infuriated me Ma, was on the reunion show when one of the twins, I think Ter-ressa. Not sure. Anyway she said to Tre, “What you did HURT people!”
            & Tre vehemently denied that she ever hurt anyone! That pissed me off sumthin’ fierce. I was livid!
            She NEVER hurt anyone???
            What the ever lovin’ FACK???

          • twifan2

            OH & she never hit below the belt!?
            WTF???? >(

          • noarguingwithstupid

            But in her penny sized brain, that is what she really thinks!!!!!! (Well, how SHE thinks, not how normal people think!!!

          • WestCoastFeed

            And she claimed that Melissa had just laughed off all those dirty rumors that Teresa was responsible for spreading about her. That’s another lie that Teresa is going to believe for the rest of her life. Poor Melissa is just going to have to continue to protest, but it won’t do any good.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            West, come on now. Don’t we all just laugh off dirty, filthy rumors our SIL tells about us to friends, complete strangers & the national television audience?

          • twifan2

            Chats does…as he lays in wait with his claws out to rip your throat out! He’s such a pussycat! ;D

          • Mommyof4qtpies

            Totally agree!!! She never admits to any wrongdoing or hurting anyone. Apparently, she’s perfect and we all suck. 😉

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            And that wasn’t a real apology. It was I apologize BUT I was framed. (or something to that general effect).

      • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

        You are 100% right. Most of us (the people with brain cells and how aren’t morally corrupt like Teresa) are outraged by the crimes AND her continuing denial that she did anything wrong and constant deflection of her own guilt onto countless others.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Preach Stacy! Preach!

        • twifan2

          HALLELUJAH!

          ♪┏(・o・)┛♪┗ ( ・o・) ┓♪
          ┏ (・o・) ┛♪┗ (・o・) ┓♪

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Can I get an AMEN?
            Hmm, guess I can!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            AAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN

          • twifan2

            AMEN! & I’ll throw in a CHEERS! 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            & a WOOT-WOOT?

      • Amen! You articulated the general sentiment precisely!

    • Nene robs kids

      Is Teresa giving the courts a break by filing a new lawsuit? I think not! Is she thinking of her kids while committing all these crimes and even now filing a lawsuit? Is Teresa giving a break to EVERYONE or ANYONE that she and Joe committed fraud to the tune of 13.4 million dollars? IMO she’s not at all not even for a second

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      Why should anyone give Teresa a break? Did she and her greasy husband give their victims a break when they robbed them? How about the Hurricane Sandy victims who are living in homes that are not completed? Did Teresa give them a break?

      I save my sympathies for the REAL victims of their crimes–the people they so callously ripped off.

      • Thank you. It’s unfortunate her fans don’t think of Tre’s victims.

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          That’s what I seriously don’t get. I don’t understand how any one with working brain cells could rationalize this woman’s behavior. She’s a sociopath–and I have to believe that those who support her are either true morons or they are criminals themselves!

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Tre already got her “break” when she was only sentenced to 15 months, but she is too stupid to realize it! & is again gonna open Pandora’s box. Seems that woman never learns.

      • twifan2

        Here’s hoping Big Bertha teaches Tre a thing or 2 or 3 or…
        Cheers! 🙂

        • noarguingwithstupid

          Big Bertha is a great teacher and uses all of her talents well for people like Treape!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            Big Bertha is an expert at corn rows too!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Heard tell that Bertha’s also know to be pretty good at plumbing too!

          • Nene robs kids

            She’s great at everything in the luxurious life Teresa will live with Bertha and her best friends!

          • twifan2

            She sure will!
            Just beautiful.:D
            *refresh*

          • noarguingwithstupid

            One of the better shots of her!!!!!! She will fit in well–Now all she needs is a mirror like all the prisoners have!!!

    • Poo

      Dana, I think Teresa represents to so many of us, as takers. We live our modest lifestyles, pay our bills and at times, deny ourselves things that we would like to have for the greater good of our families. We don’t do manis or pedis, we don’t have makeup or hair stylists. We do not have access to designer bags and clothing. We go to work, pay our bills and do NOT file bankruptcy for 13 million dollars. My children are just as important to me as Teresa’s are to her. The difference is I have saved for their college education and am not living a lie off of other people’s dollars

      • ^^This….very well stated. Thank you!

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          I agree. And Poo is right. That’s why so many people are pissed off.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Perfectly stated Poo! Awesome!

      • Nene robs kids

        Very well said Poo!

      • A Reader

        Amen. As much as I would love a new outfit from Neiman Marcus, the Gap will have to do for me. That way, I can pay the bill when it comes due should I use my credit card.

    • DLister

      Yeah, I’ll give her a break. Which leg do you prefer?

      • Snap. Crackle. Pop!!

      • noarguingwithstupid

        LOL!!!! Many of us will gladly help!!

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        I’d like to break mah foot off in her azz!
        Does that count as a break D? LOL!
        Happy Friday Hon!

        • DLister

          You too! A nice, cozy evening here — it’s grey, cold, cloudy, kinda rainy. Candles are glowing and I’m deep into a fun mystery novel! Cheers!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Enjoy Hon. Keep warm & have a fab weekend D.

    • Tre’s Going to Prison

      You’re going to have to go to a bazillian different blogsites to make this plea, and hope that one of us will change our ideas about these Convicted Felons. So I’m thinking that what you are asking here is completely futile…it ain’t gonna happen.
      But you’re welcome to come up with some other Teresa brained ideas that are equally ridiculous and will also end up with another major loss of money. Of course, that’s money that should go to the list of Fifty-Five (55) creditors these shysters stole from. And that doesn’t include the banks and the Federal Government!

  • Nene robs kids

    And may I add that in the video above with Teresa and Joe meeting with their attorney. Teresa asks him what can I do to get out of my bankruptcy? She asked this because the feds were closing in not because she wanted to pay anyone back. That was over 2 years ago and who has she paid back? Anyone at all?

    • GREAT observation. She wanted out because she knew the feds had uncovered fraud.

      • Nene robs kids

        Exactly she had Zero plans to pay anyone

        • How they lived in such blissful ignorance while owing everybody is astounding.

          • twifan2

            I think Juicy is realizing what his fate is now. He’s resigned to it.
            Whereas dumb bimbo Tre is another horse’s ass of a different world!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Flying monkey world!!!!

          • twifan2

            I think Ozland kicked her out a long time ago!
            She didn’t pay her texes there! 😀

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            hahaha.

          • That’s very evident and to some degree I have respect for Joe versus his wife who refuses to accept her responsibility and continues to fight the decision at every turn.

          • Nene robs kids

            And still do to this day! It’s really sick

          • WestCoastFeed

            Jac told us what the Giudice plan was. Back when they had first filed bankruptcy and Tre was delighted about getting a new start in life, Tre also told her that after waiting the legal number of years, they could just file bankruptcy again and get another fresh start.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Long-term unemployment, the legal fees associated with divorce, the cost of running two households following a divorce, or the high cost of medical care for chronic illness have all driven many well-intentioned Americans into bankruptcy. Is Teresa one of them? I’ll let you all be the judge on that one. 🙂

          • They fit all the sociopath traits.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      **CRICKETS**

    • Stacy Slotnick

      It also showed that she trusted him and his advice. The video is damning to her legal malpractice case.

    • A Reader

      Next up Mortgage Foreclosure on all 3 properties.

  • Bonita Gee

    okay firstly let me say I didn’t bother to read all the complicated legal jibber jabber above, but I must say Teresa please, just simmer down and do your time girl…… You’re a boss…. and gonna be bigger BOSS when you get out of prison…. They shutting down filming and production of RHONJ for your A$$ GIRL!! Then on top of all that you’ll get a spin off show, maybe your own cooking show according to AATT!!
    Girl you gonna be BANKING MONEY!! …………………….. You gonna be known as the BIG BALLER, SHOT CALLER….. rock with that $hit! ………………….Aaaaaawwwww….. Bank that money girl (then pay back some of those people you stole from) Heeeeee heeeeeee! Either way you’re winning!!
    So forget about this crazy law suite and do that 15 months …. things gonna be POPPING when you get out!!

    • BooHoo

      OMG….Seriously. The only thing POPPING here is your brain and your “go girl” speech. This is exactly WHY the Guidices have big EGOS. Support from people like you…how the hell can you support low-lifes like the Guidices…wait I think your post applies to Dani’s statement above. THE DUCK THEORY.

      • Bonita Gee

        Please Thoroughly READ what a person writes before you criticize!! You saying I ”support the Guidies…” if you READ what I first posted – I SAID Teresa should drop the lawsuit and do her time…… SO it seems like ”the only thing POPPING” NOW is YOUR BRAIN! . WTF??

        • BooHoo

          Now I know why you wrote you did not read the blog that you referred to as complicated ” Jibber Jabber”. It obviously is way above your head if you do not even understand the meaning of your own post. You may have said “do your 15 months” but if you can read beyond that it makes you the biggest delusional CHEERLEADER to date. I did read your post thoroughly….the question is HAVE YOU……QUACK QUACK.

        • Lisa Pat

          Well Ms. Bonita!! I share your enthusiasm for Teresa.. and you were 100% right about ALL FILMING being haulted on RHONJ until 2015 when Tre is back and they have a show again. Talk about a low IQ.. what moron wants to watch RHONJ to see Kathy bake canoles and Melissa Gorga and Joe lose their house?? Go Bonita! 🙂

    • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

      Wow. How is it in Never-Never land? Because the things you suggest will happen for Tre are NEVER NEVER going to happen.

      • Bonita Gee

        How is it in YOUR Never-Never land? Firstly, I SAID that Teresa will do her time, and Teresa WILL GET OUT OF PRISON IN 15 months……………………. how you figure that’s NEVER gonna HAPPEN?? That WILL happen…. She WILL do 15 months and she WILL GET OUT.
        I only said “MAYBE get your own cooking show according to AATT”…… Damn – people read into things what they want I guess… but I’M DONE…. GOOD DAY!

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          I’m sorry–but the nonsense you are spouting about how she’s going to get back with the HW’s (not according to Bravo) or get her own cooking show are LUDICROUS. This makes YOU look like you are out there in Never Never land. Because as I already explained, that is NEVER NEVER going to happen.

          Teresa is not a real star. She’s an infamous criminal who is heading to the pokey. When she gets out, NO ONE (save for a few low IQ folks who don’t get it) will want to ever see her chimp-face ugly mug again.

          And you know what? She did this herself. She herself built the fire from which she’s now going up in flames.

          And let’s use our indoor voices, mkay?

          • Bonita Gee

            WOW AGAIN reading what you want to read…. again … AGAIN…. GOOD LORD. I said “ACCORDING TO AATT” this is what I read on their site that she’s getting cooking show “MAYBE” So your saying the Cooking Show Story by AATT is ”NONSENSE” Because I was quoting AATT ………….. WOW…. wow…!!
            Say what you want to say about Teresa but DON’T MISQUOTE WHAT I SAID.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. The story AATT put out said WHY Teresa was not offered a cooking show from Bravo (or any other network) and why Bravo has not begun to thought about having another NJ season.

            AATT talked about why Teresa was delusional to think that. Obviously you didn’t read anything but what you wanted to read in the headline.

            And STOP SHOUTING!! Please! As I asked, use your ‘indoor voice.’ We can all hear what you are saying without the caps locked on your computer. Saying it louder doesn’t make it any more right.

          • BooHoo

            But she needs her caps on to make her point, obviously reading is not something she can do so in order to be heard she needs to scream her points across….”you the boss girl”. Crap like this just makes me want to scream myself.

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            LOL. I know just what you mean!

          • Mustang

            Namaste’.

          • Nene robs kids

            Perhaps you need to read again AATT done a blog recently EXCLUSIVE info she NOT getting a cooking show

        • BooHoo

          Thank God your done…….

          • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

            LOL. Yes!

          • Nene robs kids

            Thank you Jesus the Tre Hugger has left the building!

        • Nene robs kids

          Where did AATT say she was getting her own cooking show?

        • DLister

          You are correct in that time will pass and Teresa will be released from prison. But I do not believe she’ll be the “boss” of anything, maybe a Bravo employee following orders.

      • BooHoo

        She’s out there…makes perfect sense as to her theory of thinking. Maybe she can contact Bravo and fill in for her delusional twin that will be going away on 1/15/15.

        • 4theHighHeels_4theRawDeals

          She’s out there were the busses don’t run–and she’s got a fast pass!

          • BooHoo

            LOL…scary not funny how these people like BG fantasize to the point that they really think scum like the Guidices are stars and in demand on top of it. Only tells me she has the same morales and values they do…Zero. She needs to stick to blogs that do not require intellectual reading skills in order to participate.

      • BooHoo

        Cuz…she Boss….LOL.

        • Nene robs kids

          Well um I think Big Bertha is boss and Teresa will find that out real soon!
          Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays

    • twifan2

      Oh ok, this from the person who adamantly stated that Tre would never get sentenced to prison. 🙂

    • DLister

      If you think “Tre” will read this, she won’t. Because she can’t.

  • Dani-K

    Great job Stacy! It’s that duck theory and Teresa and Joe are quacking away.

  • Mustang

    Thanks for this. Very well written and explained. Now I don’t have to actually read the complaint, lol. ; )

  • Nene robs kids

    ATTN Tre Huggers this is what AATT said about the cooking show. Please read or find a friend to read to you!

    http://allaboutthetea.com/2014/12/04/teresa-giudice-is-not-getting-her-own-cooking-show/

  • WestCoastFeed

    Bonita’s enthusiasm for Teresa always leaves me exhausted. Has she left or do I need an energy drink?

    • Nene robs kids

      lol this is the first time I have read her stuff

      • WestCoastFeed

        She pops in from time to time. She’s the most rah-rah Tre fan we have.

        • Nene robs kids

          She’s out there for sure

    • Hahahaha! I’m dying with laughter. ROFL!!!

    • BooHoo

      Looks like poor Bonita has not only left the room but she has taken her posts with her. My first experience, hopefully my last. But you are right on the money regarding her enthusiasm.

  • WestCoastFeed

    October 23, 2009 (judgment in the amount of $255,000 in favor of Mastropole against “Theresa” (sic) Giudice and Giuseppe Giudice.)8

    The Giudices filed their Chapter 7 bankruptcy petition on October 29, 2009. Mastropole filed the immediate adversary proceeding on January 29, 2010.
    Those statements come from the letter Judge Stern wrote after his decision on the Mastropole case in 2010. But I just wanted to point out the timeline. Mastropole judgement came on Oct 23 and 6 days later the Juicys filed for bankruptcy.

    • This is odd. If Mastropole judgement was before the Giudice bankruptcy filing why was it not honored and excluded from their bankruptcy filing?

      • WestCoastFeed

        It looks like they filed bankruptcy at least in part, to avoid having to pay his judgment. And that’s why he went back, and this time directly to the bankruptcy court to make sure he could collect his money. It’s an interesting time line.

        • They also made public declarations that Mastropole won’t see a dime. The Giudice’s are spineless scum. I hope the judgements bury them.

          • WestCoastFeed

            And he has been quoted today on ROL with unkind words for them.

          • Oh boy! I don’t blame the man. They have put him through the wringer.

  • Suglo

    Attorney-Client privilege out the window? Can’t wait for the real fireworks to begin 😉 The Giudices really don’t know when to quit.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Just when we think that the Teresa news is about to fade away, here she comes with something to keep the blogs and the tabloids going on longer.

      • And the Huggers ask can the media give her a break!

        • WestCoastFeed

          Right, we aren’t thinking of the children. Well, neither is she.

          • Funny how the Huggers never see Teresa’s share of responsibility in the media reporting. The irony.

    • BooHoo

      They have nothing better to do. Just counting down the days.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Their strategy is definitely in question when you consider the fact that generally, the privilege is waived when a plaintiff sues a former attorney related specifically to that representation.

    • BuckJohnson

      They are complete fools, they must know that their lawyer knows some dirt on them and will use it.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        Sometimes people who blame others repeatedly, namely sociopaths, do not think through to the consequences of their actions before they act. Moreover Cuevas could’ve told Teresa that the filing of a complaint will prompt a settlement, and perhaps that is the best she is hoping for.

  • Nene robs kids

    Stacy
    Do you think it’s possible this new attorney told Teresa that this lawsuit might delay her prison sentence?

    • BuckJohnson

      Yep he said it but it won’t happen.

      • the ugly truth

        Of course he did, he’s making money on her false hopes. Lawyers are scumbags.

        • Hi TUT…not all lawyers are scumbags but it sure seems this Carlos character is shady af.

          • the ugly truth

            You are right. I have had 3 personal experiences with attorneys and one was awesome, I must admit. The other two were incompetent liars, however.I agree with you about this one 🙂

    • Stacy Slotnick

      That’s a distinct possibility, i.e., confuse the reliability of her bankruptcy filing/proceeding.

      • treasureglen

        How can this malpractice suit that Teresa filed against Kridel have anything to do with delaying her going to jail? She pled guilty to four counts of fraud in Federal Court and was sentenced to 15 months. What is the connection?

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Hi Treasure. if I understood Stacy correctly, Tre is basing the fact that she received her sentence due to the failings of her bankruptcy lawyer. i know it’s confusing to me too! Everything Teresa does perplexes me though. I just can’t get that low, down to that level. Her level. LOL!

          • treasureglen

            Hi Tiger. I don’t get any of this. I just read in our local paper that a secretary embezzled $150,000 from her employer. She made restitution but was found guilty of not declaring the money on her tax return. She got 24 months in jail. I had to read the article twice! I guess the laws are different in my state than New Jersey even though it was a federal court.

      • Poo

        Stacy, I just wandered through the original bankruptcy petition.Teresa declared $3,333.30 a month from Bravo and jointly 10,000 a month from family. They both signed off multiple times on all of these numbers. All documents were signed on the same day 10/29/09 by both parties. Isn’t she responsible for all of the inaccurate information as she signed off on all of the disclosures?

  • the ugly truth

    Man is Teresa a dumb bunny. She will do anything to try and and get out of serving her sentence. She should be spending her money on making sure her family will be financially stable instead of throwing it away on more lawyers. I knew she was delusional but this is incredible.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Howdy Hey Tut! So good to *see* you here.
      I just want to choke the stupid out of this slag! I’m not sure how much more I can take.
      Thankfully only 29 & a wake up left on the clock.

      • the ugly truth

        I should come here more often, good to see you too! I notice the Huggers have dwindled in numbers, LOL. After she biffed her chance at house arrest by withholding assets at her sentencing (a freaking concrete truck?) all she is doing is delaying the inevitable. Not that I wouldn’t be scared too but then again, that’s why I don’t commit crimes.

        • Yep, she made her bed, now she needs to lay in it. There is no way she can get out of this. But I imagine she’ll fake a nervous breakdown and Joe will check into rehab before Jan 5th. The scamming never stops with these crooks.

          • the ugly truth

            She belongs in jail, she has learned nothing from this experience. She was lucky to get such a short sentence, Joe fell on the sword to keep her out of as much of the dirty dealings as possible. I feel bad for their girls, I really do but better to learn now that crime does not pay.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ikr? If she would just honestly & finally admit what she did & be truly sorry? At least then her girls could see that if you screw up, you have to be responsible for the choices you made. Pay the piper. But she can’t even do that much right! SMH!

          • Pinky Pie

            I know. I thought if Teresa would have just come out and said that the first time it happened it was just too easy to get a loan, and then they took a second loan to pay off the first and the whole thing snowballed on them, and they are just so sorry, than took steps to pay some people back. Sybaritic with the fertility clinic, say she is sorry, bring them a check, say she is grateful everyday for her youngest child, blah, blah, blah. She might have found forgiveness. As it stands, it feels like too little, too late. Now, suing the guy that stood by her side trying to help her through the process. Zero respect for Teresa Giudice. I wonder how her husband really feels.

          • Pinky Pie

            I want everyone to know that emailed our dear Nan. I noticed she hadn’t commented for a while.our sweet Nan is not feeling well. Everyone send her positive thoughts and a shout out to feel better soon. She is such a kind lady. An shining example to all of us on what it means to be strong. I wish I could be more like her. Nan said to say “Hello!” To everyone at AATT. So, Helloooooooo! 🙂 🙂 🙂

          • Hi Pinkie. Bless you sweetness. Thank you so much for letting us all know about our dear Nan. I’ve been meaning to email her myself because I too was concerned. Sorry to hear she’s not feeling well (A big HELLO Nan).

            Nan…..I miss you tons! I will reach out to you this weekend.

          • Pinky Pie

            Thank you! I am sure you’re the perfect holiday cheer for Nan!

          • Thank you Pinky. I appreciate you very much.

          • twifan2

            Please send Nan hugs, love, & holiday cheers from me & Chats, Pinky Pie! 🙂

          • Nene robs kids

            Nan I hope you feel better real soon!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Hello back to Nan. Take care. We miss you!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I think there are lots of detox programs IN PRISON!!! I hope that is where he will be “rehabilitating”!!!!!!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            Judge Salas told Joe and his attorney just that in court. Joe’s attorney tried to get rehab in lieu of prison and Salas said they have programs in prison. In addition, Teresa had more than 90 days until her surrender date. Joe could have been to rehab and back by now,

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Yes, Joe would try anything to avoid the inevitable!!! I glad Salas didn’t buy into their idea!!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            Salas is very sharp and I like her style

          • You’re exactly right. Joe is going to TRY and check himself into a rehab in hopes it delays Teresa’s prison stint. But that scam won’t work.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Yes, come back often. The people here are just awesome. They make me hysterical. So bad my face hurts & my sides ache.
          Not sure who I’d like the smack off the top of the head more. Tre or Leaky! LMFAO!
          I was saying down thread they stress me so bad I actually find myself clenching my teeth. LOL! Crazy!

    • Stacy Slotnick

      It is as though the rules do not apply to her, and initiating a lawsuit — one would think — would be the last thing on her mind.

      • twifan2

        I get the feeling she only heard her new lawyer say she could get $$$ out of the lawsuit. Everything else she turned a deaf ear to. :/

        • Stacy Slotnick

          That is entirely possible, but Cuevas was under an obligation to explain to her that the attorney-client privilege in a legal malpractice suit may be waived, exposing her to potentially more charges that do not stem from the activity for which she was already charged.

          • twifan2

            Then he’d probably have to sit down with her & explain it word-for-word. He should have charged her by the day!
            Again, I think Cuevas started out by telling her she could get some $$$ out it & she didn’t hear anything else after that.

  • TartLemon

    O/T(?)….. Has the bill of lading and paid import/duty invoice ever been posted for the big vat of Fabellini ever been posted? ONE vat and they are selling several different flavors? Sparkling wine under pressure shipped from Italy? What about for the Italian pasta, sauces and cheesecakes which supposedly come from Italy.

    When Teresa first moved into the mansion, she showed off a room where Juicy made wine. They had a HUGE operation in the garage of making tomato sauce and other sauces.

    You can make a label that says anything. IMO, Teresa is lying about this too.

    • Poo

      Hey TartLemon, got bored this morning and read Teresas bankruptcy petition and its a beauty. I remember her blaming Bravo for their financial problems. She started the show on May 12,2009. They filed for bankruptcy on October 29,2009 showing approx $8 million in debt. Guess that wipes out the Bravo made me do it defense. They filed because a bunch of creditors were starting legal proceedings against them including foreclosure on all 3 properties. Also that judgement against him by his previous partner. As I waded through all the credit card debt, mortgage debt, etc what infuriated me the most was them trying to stiff the fertility clinic out of $11,768.00. She is truly morally bankrupt.

      • Anne Green

        I was reading the bankruptcy petition myself. I believe that there were amendments that were filed as well. Have you read those and are they online also? I agree with your response of their own debt to income ratio caused the red flag. I just cannot figure out what Teresa’s defense is with this malpractice suit. Again, she signed those bankruptcy docs without out reading them. I believe Joe dealt with Kridel mostly and Teresa had very little contact with him by her own choosing. Joe probably failed to mention the future earnings, rental income, intellectual property and bank accounts, etc. to Kridel. Teresa’s biggest mistake in this entire situation was trusting that nitwit husband of hers…..that’s were her blame lies. Don’t get me wrong, Teresa knew exactly what she was doing, she just trusted Joe’s word that they wouldn’t get caught.

        • Poo

          ann, like you, I just don’t see a defense. She signed and dated those documents. Per the Feds, that meant at she was attesting to the truth of the disclosures. It sure means it on an IRS form! It’s almost like she is suing Mr Kridel because he didn’t hide or try to bury their fraud. She doesn’t seem to grasp that their crimes are not “he said, she said” type of testimony. Their crimes ALL have a paper trail. If this blows up in her face, if you have read the plea deal, it becomes null and void. She could potentially be retried on all 39 counts. Plus, if it goes to court, which according to many, Mr Kridel will want , in order to salvage his reputation, attorney client privilege is out the window. There is so much to lose here, it just seems completely senseless. Have not looked for the amended petition but will go looking. Think Joe either did or attempted to withdraw from the petition but it was too late. The Feds were already all over it.

          • Anne Green

            ITA with everything that you have mentioned. My next question is…why would any reputable attorney take this case on contingency? What type of publicity could come for this? I, personally, would question an attorney’s moral character and why he should be retained after the filing of this lawsuit. He had to have told her about her waiving of attorney/client privilege. I wonder if that waiving applies to what Joe said as I believe most of Kridel’s dealings were with him. What does that attorney know that we don’t……I’m betting its based on Teresa’s lying.

          • Poo

            Ann…like you hell if I know. He could be looking for nationwide exposure, think he’s the next Mark Garagos. BUT, since he is a man and has probably never watched RHNJ, I suspicion he believed her lies. Once he reviews the documents of the case, he may change his mind. Doubt he had done very much before filing as his case seemed very vague. Plus, did he read her plea deal…he is putting that in jeopardy!!! That girl could go away for a lot longer if she keeps this up. She has a type of naïveté about the legal system that she thinks applys to others but not her.

          • twifan2

            BUT Poo, her lawyer SHOULD have read her paperwork before he took her case! A responsible one would.
            I think he’s doing it for the publicity. Like was said before, ‘Any publicity is better than no publicity’.

          • Poo

            Twi,I totally agree with you. Attention is cocaine for some attorneys.

          • twifan2

            I would think her new lawyer would know that the Feds did their own extensive investigation of Juicy’s & Tre’s financial dealings. Dealings that the Juicys were NOT divulged to Mr. Kridel.

          • BooHoo

            Exactly. The only reason why even a bottom feeder lawyer would take the case. Everyone is asking the same question Joe’s ex partner is asking, where are they getting the money to even hire a new attorney. Scum lawyer probably doing it in exchange for his 5 min of fame. He’ll be the next one to be sued.

          • twifan2

            I believe he is doing it pro-bono. Hoping to be paid in ALL that free publicity he’ll get.
            He better have a strong constitution dealing with Tre!

          • Nene robs kids

            Teresa and Joe has two separate cases of shenanigans. One set in the Bankruptcy court and the other in Judge Salas court. Both cases they lied to the court via documents. Over and over again not just one lie. I suspect that Judge Salas who finally is the Judge that was on to them will be even more angry about this filing. I believe this filing by Teresa is an attempt to get out of going to prison. However, many defendants go to prison with claims in courts that are outstanding. The same will happen to Teresa she will not avoid prison IMO.

          • twifan2

            ITA with you Nene robs kids!
            She’ll do her time & still have this hanging over her. Maybe more prison time could be added if things come out. She voids her own plea deal.

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Let us not forget the 800 POUNDS of sausage that Turbo Joe made in his garage!!!!

    • WestCoastFeed

      I think it’s a shipping container full of bottle and labelled Fabellini.

      • twifan2

        But I heard Juicy & her say to Andy it was a vat of Felonellini, WCF. :/

        • Nene robs kids

          Yes she said it was a vat I believe

          • WestCoastFeed

            I remember that she called it a “container.” To me that means “shipping container.”

          • That’s what she said. Shipping container.

    • I’m curious what went back to Italy in the shipping container…money, jewelry, furs etc. ??

      • WestCoastFeed

        Has it gone back. At the reunion it was sitting in a warehouse on Long Island.

        • It’s my understanding the product was sitting in a warehouse not the actual container itself. They don’t own the container.

  • Nene robs kids

    Stacy I wonder what makes Teresa and Joe think they will get to stay in that massive ugly house they are living in?

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Have they ever had anything taken away from them????? it looks like they haven’t lost much yet except the prospect of prison!!

      • twifan2

        Tre got her paycheck garnished by the laundry company! 🙂

  • Poo

    Tre is blaming the lawyer for her bankruptcy being flagged for review. Their disclosure indicated that they were netting $13,300 a month with$10,000 of it coming from family and $3,330 from Bravo. They owed over 8 million in debt. Anyone with that debt to income ratio would be flagged. Especially with over 2.5 million in mortgage debt. They flagged themselves.

  • Imstillstanding666

    Isn’t this whole case kinda like a drug dealer complaining to the police someone stole their drugs

  • Rob Stumpf

    She signed those papers under penalties of perjury. It says so right above where she signed her name.

    • Poo

      That’s right Rob. One of the 39 counts was perjury on her bankruptcy petition.But she plead out on it in her plea bargain.

      • twifan2

        That might just come back to bite her in her greedy arse!

  • twifan2

    I actually hope now that Mr. Kridel does take her butt to court!
    More will be let out & it’ll blow up in her face! Making her plea deal null and void! MORE prison time & fines could be added!

    She just doesn’t THINK! >(

    • Poo

      I think to maintain his credibility and reputation, he will go at this with all cannons blazing. This is not a storefront attorney. He has offices on Madison and Park avenue. His credentials are impeccable and doubt he will let a low life fraud try to diminish them. After all, for an attorney, their reputation is everything.

      • twifan2

        Cannons blazing…he’ll might just go down in flames then.
        Tre has never been truthful. That could be the fuel that sets his reputation to go up in flames.
        Caveat emptor goes for clients also.

        • Poo

          No babe, I was talking about Kriidel not Cuevas. Cuevas is a Yonkers atty

          • twifan2

            Oops, my bad. 🙂
            Then blaze away Mr. Kridel! & may you be set free from her bad karma. 🙂

          • Nene robs kids

            I bet Teresa will also sue her attorney in the fraud case.

          • twifan2

            She’ll have to go shopping for another pro bono lawyer then.

          • Poo

            LOL. You go girl.

          • WestCoastFeed

            He may just turn it over to his malpractice insurance company and treat it as a nuisance suit.

          • twifan2

            IF it were me & I had a chance to be able to add more prison time, fines to what she already has AND vindicate my reputation-I’d go for it myself. 🙂

          • Stacy Slotnick

            His insurance company has their own counsel to fight on his behalf. However, because this is a high-profile case and Kridel may opt to hire his own lawyer who specializes in attorney malpractice suits (there are tons in NY), Teresa will be no match for him/her.

          • twifan2

            YES! Go Mr. Kridel. 🙂

          • Nene robs kids

            The beauty of this is we may get his response before Christmas since he has 20 days to respond is that right Stacy?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Yes, 20-30 days depending on method of service. I think he’ll file a Motion to Dismiss in lieu of an answer.

          • Nene robs kids

            If he does that will he have to give reasons why it should be dismissed?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Absolutely. Instead of being one sentence denials (as in the case of an Answer) it will point to specifics attacking the complaint and by necessity, evidence showing he acted reasonably in his representation of her.

          • twifan2

            I’d love to read his reasons!

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Don’t worry. I’ll be on the lookout for it!

          • twifan2

            TY! TY! TY! ❤

          • WestCoastFeed

            Good. And we will have that before she heads for Danbury, or whichever prison agrees to take her.

          • Poo

            Bet he won’t…too high profile. For attorneys , reputation is everything

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I suspect he will forgo the insurance appointed attorney and hire his own counsel, especially if he counter sues or goes after her and Cuevas for sanctions.

          • Poo

            Stacy, hope he will counter as these types of suits are a waste of the court systems time. She signed all the bankruptcy discovery paperwork and the plea deal. Case closed.

          • A Reader

            I hope Kridel does go after her for sanctions as well as filing every Motion allowable under NY law for extension of time to drag this case on for years.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Kridel was quoted some time ago, in People Magazine, as saying that he didn’t think Teresa knew much about Juiicy’s business and financial dealings. It may be that Kridel did get all his information from Juicy and that he did neglect to pay enough attention to Teresa and include her in his consultations. That doesn’t excuse Teresa from perjuring herself in the bankruptcy documents, but it does make me wonder if Kridel really was representing her interests sufficiently.

          • twifan2

            I tend to believe he questioned her as much as Juicy, since her signature was also on the papers.
            Mr. Kridel is more likely to dot i’s, cross t’s, read papers before he signs. Unlike some (ex)clients.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I am sure he asked them for any documents they had and to provide context to their finances. Kridel does this for a living. He knows what to ask. Does that mean he didn’t commit legal malpractice here? No, but why in this one case would he betray logic and not ask questions of Teresa? It doesn’t make sense but Teresa is asking us to believe just that.

          • twifan2

            It’s as if she’s trying to convince us of what a ‘wonderful, decent’ person she is.
            Remember she said, ‘It can(could) happen to anyone’. smh

          • Stacy Slotnick

            But remember, the standard is reasonableness and nothing more. So long as his actions were reasonable there is no actionable malpractice claim. Moreover, if Teresa was guilty, as she said she was by signing the plea agreement, then in no way can you show causation, i.e., that Kridel caused her damages because she would have been convicted or faced jail time irregardless of whether Kridel spent a reasonable amount of time investigating and drafting legal docs for them.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Understood. But I still wonder whether he was another male chauvinist who dismissed her as just another empty-headed twit (which of course she is).

          • Stacy Slotnick

            You make an excellent point, but I just wish there was something more, some detail, in the complaint to demonstrate Kridel was negligent. The complaint is a concise and direct statement of the basis upon which the plaintiff seeks relief. There was nothing direct about his malpractice in this document. For example, if she tried calling and meeting him but was rebuffed, I’d include those dates in the complaint. If she told him to include certain items and he did not in the bankruptcy filing, the details of when and where should be in the complaint. If she was unsure of what she was signing and asked for further explanation and he failed to provide it, the date of said indiscretion should have been included. There is just very little to show that he was negligent in this pleading, and Kridel will likely pounce on that in his Motion to Dismiss.

          • WestCoastFeed

            It’s going to be interesting to follow. How much time does Kridel have to respond to this initial complaint?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            He has 20 days, but it could be 30 depending on the method of service. I’ll definitely keep checking back for his answer on the court database. Answers are usually even vaguer than complaints in part because you are just admitting or denying each and every paragraph in the complaint. I would expect that he’ll file a Motion to Dismiss in lieu of an answer.

          • Poo

            Hey West, short story. Married to very wealthy man (20 years). Used to sign our joint tax returns done by a nationally known company. He lied, I didn’t know, had a due diligence audit from IRS and was informed I was just as liable as he was. Never filed jointly again. Moral to story..Feds don’t care..

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes, and Teresa still hasn’t learned that lesson you learned 20 years ago. She still thinks that she is going to get out of this because she was a trusting, innocent woman, who mistakenly trusted her husband, and then mistakenly trusted her bankruptcy attorney.

          • Poo

            I know that you are older as I am. We were taught by our Moms to trust and respect our husbands. That they would take care of us. That parade has come and gone.

  • Nene robs kids

    Teresa doesn’t care that Judge Salas could have taken her into Federal custody on Oct 2. Instead Salas gave her just over 3 months to get her affairs in order (including sending Joe to rehab) and so that she could spend the holidays with her kids. This was a courtesy not a right. Instead of doing the right thing and sending her alcoholic husband to rehab on October 3rd since he needs rehab so bad she spends her time filing a lawsuit to continue to try and scam the legal system. IMO this is just more of Teresa and her entitled attitude. She really believes she’s above the law. There is a transcript out there I read where Judge Salas went over the whole plea agreement in court with Teresa (long before sentencing day) and Teresa continually told the Judge she understood what each section meant and what she had signed. Teresa was convinced that she would only be sentenced to house arrest or probation and would never be given any prison time. This behavior of hers just keeps reinforcing why people are so angry with her.

    • twifan2

      Tre doesn’t seem to realize that Judge Salas could still take her back to court.

      • Nene robs kids

        Stacy could Salas bring Teresa back into court and send her off the the Federal Penn anytime before Jan 5th? Thanks twifan for your comment I think they need to just take Teresa into custody and be done with her crap!

        • twifan2

          BUT add more prison time & fines SO she’ll start to even comprehend the gravity of her situation!

          • Nene robs kids

            I agree and maybe her latest filing will prompt the Feds to go after her again

        • Stacy Slotnick

          Not for filing a legal malpractice lawsuit. But if she committed a crime — even sometimes something as innocuous as a speeding violation — some judges would remand a criminal to prison immediately.

          • twifan2

            BUT if things were disclosed from that malpractice suit that weren’t in her Federal proceedings, could Judge Salas haul her back into court?

    • Poo

      Amen sister. That exotic plea deal that she said on national TV she didn’t understand was 2 pages long and a 4 th grader could understand. She is stupid when it’s convenient.

  • Nene robs kids

    Stacy
    thinking in crazy Teresa terms here. If Joe checks himself into rehab anytime from now until Jan 5th will that alone change her Jan 5th surrender day?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      No, and I don’t believe that it should. It was very generous of Judge Salas to stagger their sentences so that one parent could be home while the other is in prison. Many families do not have that option. I don’t believe that will make the judge reconsider her surrender start date.

      • twifan2

        AND Judge Salas allowed Tre to spend the holidays with her fambly instead of being hauled off in 30 days.

        • Nene robs kids

          And she also allowed them to stagger their sentences. She could have made them serve at the same time.

          • twifan2

            Tre just doesn’t get it! smdh!

  • Nene robs kids

    Stacy
    I have read a few times about amendments to the bankruptcy petition. Isn’t this generally is add more debtors to the list?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Amendments are used liberally in the filing of legal documents. As you noted, an amendment can be filed to add more debtors but also it can correct a mistake, include a previous omission, or highlight a change in circumstances.

      • WestCoastFeed

        In Tre’s case, the amendments that I saw were to add assets that had not been included in previous statements. In fact, in took Teresa 3 amendments to finally admit to some of her assets. The original 39 count indictments documents showed the amendments process from the bankruptcy court.

  • Nene robs kids

    Poor Stacy here’s another question
    Is there any chance that this latest lawsuit would change the Jan 5th surrender date?

    • twifan2

      OMG! I couldn’t take a 12th hour stay of non-incarceration! 😮

      • WestCoastFeed

        But what if she has to begin her prison sentence only to be called to testify in this case dressed in her prison garb, wearing shackles. What a picture that would be!!

        • Even if she’s called to testify and she’s wearing non prison clothes, I want to see what condition she’ll be in…off drugs, no fillers and no extensions.

          • WestCoastFeed

            She’d finagle a way to get make-up artist and a hair dresser to prepare her for court. She’ll pay more attention to them than to her attorney.

          • twifan2

            EXACTLY! She’d get Bravo to pay for it all, so they could film it.

        • Poo

          This will probably be mostly a paper trial. Anything else would be a he said, she said trial. We all need to realize that he will come with all the documentation. Attorneys bills are based on contact with clients, researching case law, etc. They are much more used to accountIing for their time, contacts,etc. He will kill her with paper

          • WestCoastFeed

            Don’t spoil my fantasy, Po. I want the world to see her dressed in prison khaki, without mink eyelashes, fillers and botox.

          • Poo

            Your killing me girl. Guess your getting a good handle on that new Dell !

    • Stacy Slotnick

      No but surely her intent is to do just that by muddying the waters and saying to the judge, “I shouldn’t be sent to prison because my bankruptcy attorney committed malpractice in handling my case.” I do not see the judge altering her start date. This was an issue she should have at least raised at sentencing even if she wasn’t prepared at that time to file charges. She should have come to court with evidence of her attorney’s malpractice.

  • Nene robs kids

    Is this a preview of her ugly self?

    • Vince Foster, Jr.

      I am going to puke

      • Nene robs kids

        lol Sorry my friend

      • twifan2

        Vincent! Go over to the Funnies thread. There are some good ones posted on the thread you can puke over! 😀

    • WestCoastFeed

      There she is, Miss America.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        I would love to see that pic in the grocery store check out!!

        • twifan2

          Not me! I wouldn’t buy groceries then. It would put me off food. 🙁

          • noarguingwithstupid

            She’s always on the cover looking her best with her darling girly just loving, loving, loving!!!

    • BooHoo

      You don’t have to be a writer to know how this story will play out when she is behind bars looking like she does above. Joe won’t be home to accept her collect calls, the Chubby Nanny will answer and tell her she hasn’t seen him for days. There will be many missed visitation days because for one her Juicy sleeps all day. And we can say for sure her lucky number is not 15…
      1/5/15 her torture will begin because she will not be around to keep an eye on hubby. She probably wished the judge started their sentence at the same time, so she could close her eyes knowing where he was at night.

      • twifan2

        Luv Luv Luv your scenario, BooHoo! 🙂
        Tre didn’t think things thru as always. Her receiving prison time never entered that tiny brain of hers.

  • Angie

    Can someone explain how they are still living in their home, my understanding is their are out of money. How are they paying bills? Is someone looking into this

    • Flanagan

      The house is up for sale, so my guess is that they are just going to stay there until a buyer comes along. It goes without saying they’re not making any payments of any kind, except for the utilities. The utility companies would shut them down for non-payment, and with winter coming, even T.G. would realize (I think) those are bills she can’t renege on. As far as the money to pay their bills? I’m stumped.

      • Pinky Pie

        So, Teresa, Joe, and their children are squatters. Yeah, that fits their profile. Drag those kids through the mud some more, then tell us how much you love them , and don’t forget to tell us you are a “good mother.” Making her children homeless squatters, all good mothers that love, love, love their children turn them into vagrants. Shame on the two of them.

        • Flanagan

          Yes indeed, Pinkie Pie, the life lessons T and J have imparted on their children are for the books. I don’t care what happens to either one of those two, but what they have done to their children is unforgivable. Cheat, steal, lie, take what you want because, after all, you deserve it. Can’t get it by honest means? Don’t let that stand in your way!
          I’ve said this many times before, and I’ll say it again:Those children really lost out on the parent lottery.

  • twifan2

    Stacey, can people, companies still go to court to have her wages garnished while this suit is being ‘debated’? Or do they have to wait for a ruling?

    • twifan2

      OH! And when might the laundry company that did get to have her paycheck garnished expect to start seeing payments to them?
      Or will they have to wait for this new suit to be ruled on?
      Sorry, so many questions keep popping into my head.

    • Poo

      Hey darlin, not an attorney but think that because the bankruptcy was thrown out of court, they are fair game

      • twifan2

        I was thinking about this malpractice suit. If it had any bearings on garnishments or pending ones.

        • Anne Green

          Not an attorney either but this complaint was filed in NY Supreme Court. The bankruptcy court is entirely different. Maybe if it were deemed that Kridel was negligent and she is able to refile the bankruptcy petition, then creditors might be placed on hold.

          • twifan2

            Yet another reason it seems that Tre filed that suit. She hates to part with any $$$!

          • Poo

            Totally with Ann. They would have to refile bankruptcy and have it adjudicated ..in their favor before any further ligitation could take place. That would take an honest filing of assets and liabilities. Don’t know if they are capable of that. Certainly haven’t in the past. Sure Feds would be all over it but you must remember.. The major problems were bank fraud and IRS indictments. Bankruptcy was just a piece of the pie that brought the Feds to the attention of the rest of their fraudulent activities

          • Pinky Pie

            Also, Teresa was aware that her assets were being looked at. In one either interview(most likely) or show, she said all of her jewelry was fake. She wouldn’t have made that comment for no reason. Teresa knew full well that report of assets was being questioned. Right there and then Teresa should have been screaming there is a mistake, ” I have expensive jewelry and I want it reported, for some reason it wasn’t reported.” Teresa knew.

          • Poo

            Remember when she gave Gia that heirloom ring…..on video tape. Remember when Joe called her a c@@@t on national TV and he had to buy her an apology gift. Do you think it was cubic zirconias. She stated that she sent him back for a better gift. Yet all of her jewelry was “costume”. Yeah right!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            It’s so hard to keep lies together—-they just weave and weave!!!

          • Pinky Pie

            Also, the trip that Teresa, Jac, and Caroline took to some seaside resort. They stop at a jewelry store, and Teresa was admiring some piece of Jewelry, and when one of the others says it was to expensive Teresa is bragging saying her Joe never says no. And remember t
            Teresa asks him for a push present.. Diamonds are always nice.
            And then there was the canary diamond to celebrate there anniversary in the hotel room after the helicopter ride over N.Y.? I don’t think any of it was fake. And, Teresa doesn’t have the personality to say she was wearing fakes unless she had reason. That stuff was real.

  • Anne Green

    In the above video, Teresa says “and the truth shall set you free”. How’s that working out for you Teresa????

    • twifan2

      Well, she didn’t tell the truth, so she’s going to prison. 🙂

      • Anne Green

        Exactly!!! I bet she regrets making that statement!!

        • twifan2

          Tre! Regrets? Nope! Neva! She’s trelusional, she does no wrong-in her world. 😀

          • Anne Green

            You’re right!!! I just can’t wrap my head around her lack of remorse and how she processes thoughts……lol

          • WestCoastFeed

            I can tell you a little about the thought process. My mother was bi-polar and, just like Tre, could never admit that she was wrong and could never really apologize. We siblings just learned, the same way Joey learned, to just shrug our shoulders and accept it, since she was never going to change. Anytime Mom did, even the smallest thing wrong. she would turn the event over in her mind until she had created a version that rendered her blameless. Here’s a very tiny example and one of little consequence. One day while I was at work, Mom broke one of my favorite vases. When I got home and she told me about it, she also informed me that I didn’t like that vase, anyway.

          • twifan2

            Using Tre-ogic…
            IF she doesn’t know the difference between right & wrong, then she may be a danger to herself & others. That should warrant institutionalization with a very scarce key.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Oh, she knows the difference. It is just that in her mind, she cannot do wrong. She is always right.

          • twifan2

            Which is how she is living her life-without the regard to others’ lives, livelihoods.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Exactly. But she is sweet and charming at her public appearances and has her fans completely fooled.

          • Pinky Pie

            Teresa’s fans are idiots. They are not hard to fool.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Case in point–Leopard Man

          • twifan2

            aaahhh Leotard Boy! 🙂
            Wonder how he’s doing these days? :/

          • WestCoastFeed

            He has added Dina to his shilling tweets.

          • twifan2

            I wonder if Zender is his ‘rebound’ idol? :/

          • Pinky Pie

            Plus, the authorities should be looking into whether she is capable of parenting 4 children.

          • twifan2

            If she keeps up with these actions of hers, they should. And NOW!
            I wonder if she’ll try an insanity stunt? :/

          • Pinky Pie

            Oh, we can only hope! She would then get 15 months of what she deserves.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I lived the same life with my Mom. She died when she was young, but when she was alive the hallucinations and personality changes were very scary. I am sorry you had to suffer through it too. My mom was just a very, very sick woman who was wonderful when she was well and a nightmare when she was sick.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I hesitate to even mention it, because Mom was such a wonderful, caring woman, when she was well. But there were times when she was pretty awful. Good thing that my father adored her, because he put up with the worst from her.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            My father adored my Mom also and I just don’t know how he did it. Love is very hard to describe.

          • WestCoastFeed

            My mother was drop dead gorgeous. That certainly helped.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            My Mom was always a size 4 and as smart as a whip. She was a Master Bridge player, which was common in the mentally ill hospitals at the time. Lots of brains–just a bit scrambled.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Mine was also highly intelligent, She had a figure like Marilyn Monroe along with a very pretty face. And she knew how to turn in on.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I think we are soul sisters!!!! Do you have any sibs? I was an only child.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes, there were four of us. So we could commiserate with each other. That helped a lot. The bad spells, the rages, were rare, thank God.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Back in the day My mom would just be institutionalized as there was no Lithium or drug that could control her. Sometimes the stays were weeks, sometimes months, and of course the hospital was hundreds of miles away!!!! Anyway, enough of this sad talk!!!!! Life is now good for all of us I hope!!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Oh, your Mom was a lot worse than mine and you dealt with it with only your dad. Mine spent short stays In mental hospitals only. Once for shock treatments. We kids were told that it was for her insomnia.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            All of those experiences made us the wonderful people we are!!!!! There is always a reason and I never question why.

          • WestCoastFeed

            For one thing, I recognized Tre for what she was right from the get-go. I could never understand how she had so many people bamboozled.

          • Flanagan

            Fascinating article WestCoast, and thanks for the tip.
            It sounds like you and your siblings learned coping methods that served you well. As tough as it is to bite your tongue and walk away, it certainly deflects the battles that would result otherwise.
            My brother’s wife of 26 years has severe borderline personality disorder, and the struggles to deal with her have been epic. We finally realized the only way to get by with her is to keep her at arm’s length, and never argue or dispute anything she ever says.
            When my brother discovered she was having an affair with the UPS driver, she turned it on him, claiming it was HIS fault for not being a better husband.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Very typical, unfortunately. Your Dad was special and be glad he was in your life (I am sure you are!!!)

          • Anne Green

            Thank you WCF for sharing your personal experience. It truly helps me to understand through one’s own experience why Teresa behaves in the manner in which she does. It’s not excusable behavior but I can better understand it.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Yes, thank you so much WestCoastFeed for relaying these experiences that are beyond valuable. I do think that some of her issues are grounded in mental illness, though I am not a doctor. In what I have seen from other people in the criminal justice system, she may have sociopathic tendencies. http://allaboutthetea.com/2014/11/11/lies-teresa-giudice-told-psychiatric-justice/

    • Flanagan

      I think she has deluded herself into believing she IS telling the truth. After all, this is ALL Joe’s fault, the attorney’s fault, Bravo, Andy Cohen, everyone on the Housewife show, the neighbors, the mailman, the guy behind the deli counter………I’m waiting for her to point the finger at the Pope.

      • Anne Green

        You know, I have always felt that she was duped by Joe. I believe that she knew all about presenting fraudulent documents to the various banks. I think he told her “everybody does this”…..and she believed him. IMO, that’s how this all started. In her mind of minds, she blames Joe for this. She can’t sue Joe..she is stuck with him….even after his stint in the pokey, she will always have to deal with him….he is the father of the children and that won’t ever change.

        • WestCoastFeed

          If he gets deported, will she follow him to Italy?

          • Pinky Pie

            Some countries won’t take convicted felons that are not their citizens. She may be detained at the border and turned back to the U.S. Or, the U.S. May not allow her to leave because she is a convicted felon that owes tons of money.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I think Tre has dual citizenship which, I think, would mean that Italy would have to take her. But I dk what US rules are about letting indebted felons leave.

          • Pinky Pie

            I am not an attorney, so you may be correct. I did read some of the stuff on the net about passports. And, my interpretation is the U.S. Might not let her leave. Also, Teresa was born in the U.S. Which makes her, creepy, self a U.S. Citizen. In very few cases are dual citizenships granted. It has to be something like an American mom overseas giving birth, I think. But, I could have, easily, misunderstood what I was reading.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Italy allows and even encourages dual citizenship. One just has to prove ancestral birth and/or marriage,and citizenship records. In this case, it would not matter whether the US recognizes dual citizenship. It is Italy that would decide to let her in.

          • Pinky Pie

            You may be right. I did see my grand father’s passport, born in Italy, held land there in his name, U.S. Passport, after becoming U.S. Citizen, not dual. Could have been his choice. He was proud to be U.S. Citizen. Italian grandmother born here, only spoke Italian, Italian immigrant parents, u.S. Passport. Just think it would be funny if those two were separated for life. Who would want her then? Play on my team! Lol! No really, if you have the time, try to find out, please.

          • WestCoastFeed

            And they do own property in that little town in Italy. I don’t remember if it is Gorga or Giudice family home. but I remember Teresa pointing it out and that trip back to Italy.

          • Flanagan

            Was that the place they had to hike, uphill on a dirt road to get to?

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes, they passed the house on their way up a gazillion steps to one of the relatives homes.

          • Flanagan

            Thanks-I remember realizing I was almost out of breath just watching it.

          • Anne Green

            I was allowed to obtain dual citizenship because my Grandfather was born on a small island in the Caribbean. I did have to show a BCI that I had never been convicted of a felony. Could be a problem for her.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I say a bio of her quite some time ago, long before the indictments went down, that mentioned her dual citizenship. I’ve looked for the bio since, but haven’t found it again.

          • Anne Green

            I bet she doesn’t. I bet she is relieved that he is going to prison for the length of time that he is. I bet he will be a divorced man when he is released.

          • Anne Green

            Three sentences beginning with “I bet”…..argh…proof read!!!!!!

          • twifan2

            ??? There’s a syntax police around?
            Oh my heavens! I’m scared!
            *clutches pearls & pours another glass of wine* 🙂

          • Anne Green

            Hahahaha!!!! You crack me up!

          • twifan2

            Cheers! 🙂

          • Flanagan

            It’s okay-the heat of the moment..it’s Teresa’s fault!

          • twifan2

            I actually don’t think she will. She might use ‘her’ dauters as an excuse not to go.
            BUT if she stays here, she’ll be repaying back all that $$$.

        • Flanagan

          Joe Giudice absolutely, without any doubt, masterminded this entire scheme to defraud the banks. Teresa would never have the know-how to even start planning crimse such as these. But, I do believe, when she presented the banks with the fraudulent documents, claiming she owned her own company, when she was actually unemployed, she knew exactly the gravity of what she was doing. Even Teresa is not that addle brained to submit a loan for over 1 million dollars, based on lies, and not figure out it was not exactly the most honest thing to do. Especially when she signed that pesky part where it says “I swear the information I have provided is true and correct…..” Oh, but wait, the loan officer never told her she could get in trouble! It’s all HIS fault!!!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Next on the to sue list–all the loan officers who signed onto her loans.

          • Flanagan

            But of course…they should have known she was lying on her financial statements.

      • Pinky Pie

        You forgot to say the “fans.” She lost her cooking show because of us not wanting to watch her lying tongue.

        • Flanagan

          Oh silly me…the FANS! Ah yes, her beloved band of merry minions who were complicit in her downfall. Add them to the list!

        • twifan2

          But! But! But! Pinky Pie, she has ALL those stans! They should have been ‘enough’ #s to get her a show. 😀

          • Pinky Pie

            Heaven forbid this ugly liar is ever put before us again, other than on the news selling pencils from a cup on a street corner.

        • TartLemon

          Plus, anyone who doesn’t invest in the 3KT video is a ‘hater’.

          • twifan2

            Then be a ‘hater’ I be. 🙂
            *uses that $ to buy Chinese take out tonite*

          • Pinky Pie

            TartLemon, you made me laugh! I nearly choked on my drink. Your hilarious!

      • WestCoastFeed

        Thanks for joining us here, Flanagan. This is the best board. We never stoop to the awful name calling that ROL tolerates.

        • Flanagan

          Thank YOU, WestCoast. This is ever so refreshing to have civilized exchanges. I have flagged so many of the most egregious comments on ROL, and they’re never taken down. Yet some of mine, which NEVER contain a single insulting, degrading or off color word, are banished to the hinterlands. Go figure.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes, I said thank you to someone over there yesterday, and it was deleted.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            What a bunch of jerks!!!

          • Flanagan

            ???????? Who ARE the moderators over there???

          • WestCoastFeed

            They’re about as bright as the writers.

          • Flanagan

            AH HAHAHAHA!!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I think they are in a call center in Asia!!

          • twifan2

            😀
            ROTFLMAO!

          • twifan2

            WoW! I need another drink & some ‘happy’ feet!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Sippin my Diet Pepsi and watching my chimps!!! Life is good!!

          • twifan2

            🙂
            *tapping toes over here*

          • WestCoastFeed

            Ahh! Thank you, Twi. My favorites!

          • Nene robs kids

            I Love the chimps

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Wait a minute, WestCoastFeed, you said ‘thank you’re to someone and it was removed???

          • WestCoastFeed

            Well, to be precise. It never posted. It was that faded gray they used for posts in moderation, although it was never listed as in moderation. Then after a while it disappeared.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Well, we must start a club at the very least!

      • Mary Stonehouse

        Hey Flanagan, how did you know that Teresa was going to point her felonious finger at the Pope!! She said he gave her a dispensation from ever having to go to jail. Furthermore, any future “mistakes” are forgiven because she’s a good cook.

        I read article in “All About Tea”, it was great! Written by a prestigious lawyer, it blows that pathetic lawsuit out of the water. She still has weeks ahead to come up with more shenanigans, I’m disgusted by her behavior.

        • Flanagan

          Mary, how are you! So, T.G. has a permanent pass to steal, cheat, whine and defraud based on her cooking abilities? Hmmm….she better tread VERY carefully on that one. With all she has to ponder these days, I’m not sure that brain of hers can function too well on information overload. The scent of burning cannolis is wafting on the breeze.

          And I’m sure T.G. has a whole lot more tricks in her bag to pull out whilst awaiting the countdown to the Day of Doom.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Flanagan, the very same thing happened to me–my posts were removed. No explanation given. I used no bad language, just displeasure at what T.G. was doing. Oh well, I don’t think you’re are a real writer, unless you’re removed at least once…I was removed several times (lol)!

          • Flanagan

            Well, I guess that makes us real writers! Kudos to us!!

          • Mary Stonehouse

            All kidding aside, that’s something I’ve always wanted to do–to write a novel. I am an avid reader, always have been.

          • twifan2

            Go for it, Mary Stonehouse! 🙂
            I’d pre-order it on Amazon.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            twifan2, that was one of the nicest posts anyone’s ever written me (smile)! I’ve run across a couple of great writer’s on these streams. It’s fun to exchange posts with them, it wakes me up, or energizes my mind in ways that I love!

          • twifan2

            Seriously, you should get your fingers wet! Start small, to get your confidence up OR jump right in! Whatever you feel most comfortable with! 🙂

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Years ago I submitted a bunch of short stories and framed all my rejection letters!!!!! It’s fun and exciting–go for it!!!

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I love that you framed all the letters. It took real courage to submit your stories! Thank you for the encouragement. By the way, even if your name is long, it’s memorable!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Thanks–Try to look forward to the rejections because eventually you will NOT Shoot for a whole lot of no’s before you get a yes!!!

          • Flanagan

            Start outlining, Mary! Frank McCourt was 66 when his first book, his memoir, Angeles Ashes was published, and he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for it. Fantastic book.
            I would love to read a book written by you!

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I love Frank McCourt, I miss him being in the world. I do have outlines. Thank you for the encouragement. There is also an Irishman who writes very dark, but interesting mystery series (I can’t think of his name).
            Off Subject: I get crushes on authors I like to read, pretty silly, but I do.

          • Flanagan

            I LOVE Harlen Coban and Michael Palmer. Fabulous authors, and yes, very crush-worthy.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Yes, yes, and YES, on crush-worthy. Ken Bruen’s series on Jack Taylor, is the author I was thinking of. Even at my age, I always go for the bad boy.

            I like many kinds of genres, I even like Faith Hunter’s urban fantasy series of Jane Yellowrock. Oh,well, you’ve opened a gusher in me, so I better reel it in.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I go for the funny mysteries. Right now, my favorite is Lawrence Block and his burglar series.

          • Flanagan

            Carol Higgins Clark is a laugh riot. Also, anything by Janet Evanovich.

          • twifan2

            LOVE Evanovich! 🙂
            Especially the character of Lula! 😀

          • Flanagan

            Check out Brad Thor. You WON’T be sorry.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I’ll go on Amazon.com to check on Brad Thor, thanks for the hint. Don’t be put-off by Faith Hunter urban fantasy, “Jane Yellowrock”, it is truly a jem!

          • twifan2

            *writes all these names down*
            More on my ‘to read, when I get time’ list! 🙂

          • Flanagan

            Thanks, Mary. I’ll check it out.

        • Pinky Pie

          Wrong, she’s not a good cook, brother said she doesn’t know how, mom does the cooking. Teresa is good at claiming she is a good cook. We all saw the frozen meals she bought and served her girls. Times are tough, Milania’s scrambling her own eggs.

          • Flanagan

            T.G. DOES know how to can tomatoes. It was an episode a few years back.
            Canning tomatoes is, of course, a quantum leap from the 5 star chef Teresa claims to be, but that IS one thing she’s good at–claiming to be something she’s not.

          • Pinky Pie

            Yes, they can can tomatoes, but the had to put their families gross spin on when it was acceptable during a woman’s cycle to can. Holy crap, those people are pigs. Asking Teresa’s friend that question was unacceptable. Rude beyond words for her father to ask.
            Yes, Teresa is pretending to be rich, but we all know that isn’t true. I cannot wait to hear she is pitching a tent by the side of the road because she cannot afford an apartment, and she cannot afford to pay a camp ground.

          • twifan2

            Maybe one of her many stans will help her out?

          • Pinky Pie

            Yes, I read a quote from her saying she thought someone, maybe, one of her fans would give them a home for free to live in. Would that be a new home, or a dirty used home someone else lived in? Lol! Talk about delusional!

          • twifan2

            DANG! That woman is way pass Cray Cray! 😮

          • Flanagan

            Well, it seems her fans would be tearing each other apart to be the one who wins the prize. Visual of the opening of WalMart on Black Friday.

          • twifan2

            THEY can have her! They can keep her!

          • Pinky Pie

            Okay, but I think it is an abandon Walmart, because I don’t think anyone believes enough in her to give her a house to live in for free. They’d have to be Trump rich, and people don’t just give away house. Hmm, maybe she could ask Todd…”and you get a house, and you get a house!” No, Todd is out. Oprah? No. Teresa tries to think. ( 2 hamsters on her wheel, one quits) who can she con out of a house? Who can she sue? (2 out of two hamsters, the only ones she had to begin with) quit. Who, oh, who, can Teresa now sue? How can she make some money, it is no longer funny.
            I cannot wait for her to go to prison. I hope Gia’s band fails, so that she does not have to become the family bitch to be pimped out to the music industry.

          • Flanagan

            Sadly, I’m sure that’s exactly what T & J are hoping for, to have Gia bring in the money. Pathetic.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Pinky Pie, I said it sarcastically; I know Teresa doesn’t cook. Poor Milania, she’ll at least learn to cook. I have a feeling when mistake-proof Teresa finally is in prison, those poor girls will have to all chip in to cook.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Bring on the corn dogs!!!

          • twifan2

            Frozen pizzas for everybody! 🙂
            Juicy at least looked like he was making the girls hamburger patties in one episode.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            LOL!

          • Pinky Pie

            I agree with you, and was only trying to add my own brand of snarky against Teresa. I think she is a huge liar! And I loved your comment, sorry if my comment didn’t come off right.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            No need for an apology. T.G. is a dangerous liar, who believes her own lies. I love snarky, keep it coming…

          • Pinky Pie

            Thank you, Mary! I cannot stand the liar that lies then lies about not understanding. I hope she reads all of our comments, so that she can see just what her fans think of her, and her creepy behavior.

          • Pinky Pie

            Miliania is 8. What is an 8 year old doing near the stove, and she did actually cook eggs,so she’s done it before for herself. Great mothering. Excellent “good mothering” skills. Teresa should be in jail now!

  • Anne Green

    What is everyone’s opinion as to why Teresa’s new attorney ever agree to take this case on? At first I thought for professional exposure, I’m not so sure anymore. I think he has taken one hell of a risk by filing this complaint. To use The Foxy Jurists words…..what say you?

    • twifan2

      Free publicity. Any press is better than no press.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Agree!!

    • Flanagan

      I believe most attorneys really do not relish the thought of taking on a malpractice case against another attorney. Legal negligence can be tough to prove. Either these attorneys really do believe they have a good case, they’ve never watched the RHONJ, or they desperately want exposure. If they ARE familiar with T.G. and her antics, I’m scratching my head over why they would want any alliance with her. Don’t they know if this doesn’t go her way, she’ll sue THEM?

      • Stacy Slotnick

        Cueva is a little fish in a big pond in NY. This is excellent exposure for his law firm — at least for now. It is telling she did not hire a Manhattan law firm. Perhaps she couldn’t find a large white shoe law firm to take her legal malpractice case.

        • twifan2

          Or couldn’t get them take her case pro bono?

          • Flanagan

            Cases like these are on contingency. If T.G. is awarded any amount, the lawyers take their cut, I believe around 30%. If they lose, well, that’s the perils of taking on these cases.

          • twifan2

            I think the Manhattan law firms might have taken her case IF she had a viable case.
            I’m also willing to bet, that they told her things she didn’t want to hear. She went lawyer shopping til she found one to her liking…for now.

          • Flanagan

            Aha, yes. Told her things she didn’t want to hear. You’ve nailed it, twifan2!

          • twifan2

            🙂
            Cheers Flanagan!
            I don’t pity her lawyer! 😀

          • Flanagan

            Oooh no….no compassion for this guy at all. I really can hardly wait for him to go on the interview circuit.

          • twifan2

            You just know he’s grooming, prepping for it. :/

          • Flanagan

            “Which camera angle will catch my good side?”

          • twifan2

            The one kissing Tre’s butt would do! ;D

        • Flanagan

          Very interesting, Stacy. So, it seems it’s all about publicity. Yes, let the interviews on the talk shows/news outlets begin. Wouldn’t it be fun to know how many lawyers T.G. trolled till she found these guys.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            I think so, Flanagan. No doubt there are countless attorneys she “consulted” with who believed that the risk was bigger than the reward. I believe that many attorneys would talk to her but in the end representing her would be too much of a liability.

          • Flanagan

            Do you have any info on this attorney group? All I could find was that they have been in business for about 20 years.

          • WestCoastFeed

            She probably sent someone down to the courthouse to look for guys wearing shiny suits along with tassel loafers.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      I love it! Borrow a Foxy Jurist expression anytime. 🙂 Thanks Anne Green.

      It is great exposure for his previously unknown law firm. Her as a client creates a talking point with nearly every media outlet. Why do you think he took the case despite all the negative press surrounding Teresa and tales of her deception and fraud?

    • Nene robs kids

      I think he is taking a huge risk. Teresa is a liability and will turn on anyone and everyone to get what she wants

      • Pinky Pie

        Yes, next thing we hear, Teresa will be suing the new lawyer for not handling or explaining what malpractice is. Why would anyone want her as a client?

        • Nene robs kids

          Maybe he was drunk on Fabellini when he agreed to rep her lol

  • Poo

    Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

  • Nene robs kids

    It’s nice to see people commenting that I haven’t read on here before. This is a really great group of people on here. (Unless you’re a Tre Hugger) lol

    • Flanagan

      WestCoastFeed tipped me to this site. It’s great, and SO nice to have such civility.

      • Nene robs kids

        Well we are glad to have you here! There is always good opinions and many different ones but never mean spirited. I do snark the tre huggers though. But they rarely come on here

        • twifan2

          But when the TreHuggers come on here, they better prepared! 🙂
          It does get ‘spirited’!
          Have you met ‘Happy wife’? OMG!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I haven’t seen happy in a long time!!! Maybe she has a new name!!

          • twifan2

            Could that be ‘Dana’?!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I will be looking for her!!

          • twifan2

            It’s strange to look out my window & see it so dark at 6 pm already. 🙁

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I hate it! It’s dark when I leave & it’s dark when I come home. Depressing!

          • twifan2

            I kinda like it, T-Lily.
            I get to see all the Christmas lights up. The decorations. 🙂
            Hate the cold, rainy mornings tho. And Chats just sprawled out all comfy under my comforter. >(

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I love to look at the decorations too but I like it better when it’s still light out till like 9ish.

          • Nene robs kids

            I don’t think so but I did see the one yesterday that said we need to give Teresa a break for the holidays and her kids too! LOL

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I saw that too. Do you remember the name?? I can’t remember it.

          • twifan2

            Dana? That the one you talking about, I think.

          • WestCoastFeed

            No, she’s talking about Bonita Gee. She wears me out.

          • Nene robs kids

            Yes Bonita! And I remember Dana also

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Yes, I saw that one and I was wondering about it too!!!! Bonita Gee was yesterday!!

          • Nene robs kids

            Wasn’t Dana the one that told us to give Teresa a break for the holidays?

          • twifan2

            WCF, do you think Dana could be Happy wife?

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yes.

          • twifan2

            She trips over her own posts most of the time. :/

          • twifan2

            Oh that one. 😀

          • Pinky Pie

            Yes, she is tiring. She called me satan. Lol! For defending right, meaning those of us that live by the law, and pay our bills. Yeah, truly satan. She is a joker trying very hard to upset good people.

          • twifan2

            OMG! She was a trip!
            Claimed to be a childhood friend of Tre’s. Lived close her. Yada Yada Yada!

          • Nene robs kids

            She didn’t last long on here! It was funny

          • WestCoastFeed

            Not once it became obvious that she was not a child hood friend of Tre’s. She was just another Tre Hugger. And, yes, is now probably posting as Dana.

          • Nene robs kids

            She’s a real piece of work. Her stupidity is astounding

          • twifan2

            What about that one over at RT. The one with SO many tags, it was hard to keep track who she was!? o.0
            Think that could be our dear Dana?! 😀
            She just can’t get enough of us, if it is! ;D

          • WestCoastFeed

            She’s the one who got so many of us banned from RT. In my case, it was probably my own fault. The RT moderator had suggested that I not id her when she showed up with a new handle. But I couldn’t resist.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I have trouble keeping my own tag straight, I couldn’t maintain other tags as well. Why even do such a confusing thing?

          • twifan2

            She was a strange one! That’s about says it all.
            *le sigh*

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Who Twi my best Tre-hugger buddy Happy or Dana? Who I believe are probably one in the same.

          • twifan2

            I was talking about the ‘one nutcase’ over at RT. I used to call her Fancy Pants. 🙂
            WCF, remembers her tag(s).

          • noarguingwithstupid

            OMG I had almost totally fogotten Fancy Pants!!!

          • twifan2

            Yeah Fancy Pants! 🙂
            OMG! Do you remember who was the one that said we were the same person using different tags?! 😀

          • WestCoastFeed

            Megan, you mean?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Yes, yes, yes!!!!!!

          • twifan2

            YES!!!! OMG!
            Have you ‘seen’ her lately, WCF?

          • WestCoastFeed

            No, And her posts were unmistakable. Mostly just gibberish.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Oh that one I don’t know. Happy & Dana are more than enough for me.

          • twifan2

            That one was a total NUTCASE!
            Even the squirrels didn’t want her! 😀

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            WOW! Well, she’s got a few siblings, (or would that be fellow nutballs?) that hang out on ROL too I think!

          • Pinky Pie

            Dana told me to “Get over myself,” and that she was going to block me, when I supported my original statement. I don ‘t think Dana can handle intelligent conversations. Dana calls names and then runs from the argument much like Dina who hid behind Caroline.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            When she posts, I usually post: “Huh”???????

          • Pinky Pie

            Good one! I kind if love taking the opportunity to repeat the thing Teresa the convicted felon is going to prison for and what the felon did to her daughters she professes to love. I hope Teresa reads comments and realizes just how vile she is, or that it brings her spirit down a notch or two, or ten. I hope she realize how much people despise her behavior, and that we can see right through her.

          • Nene robs kids

            Which one said that AATT posted an article saying Teresa WAS getting a cooking show?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I saw that too!!!! That was a definite “Huh” and watch out!!!

          • Nene robs kids

            Those people are funny as heck when they get on here spewing that crazy stuff

          • Pinky Pie

            More than likely the one paying Teresa for articles.

          • Nene robs kids

            When I have seen the tre huggers it becomes a pile on when lots of us get after them! lol

          • twifan2

            Happy had T-Lily, NAWS, Tre’s Twits, me ALL foaming at the mouth! GGGRRRRRRR >(

      • twifan2

        uuuhhhhhmmmmm???
        Is there such a thing as ‘drunken civility’? I’ll let you know in about 2 hrs! 😉

        • Flanagan

          I’ll be back by then…Got to get the Christmas tree before it gets dark. I have a headlight out, and don’t like driving at night that way. Getting it fixed Monday. The car looks like it has one eye closed.

          • Pinky Pie

            Winking at us? 🙂

          • Flanagan

            .).).).)

          • twifan2

            (>‿◠)✌

          • twifan2

            I have a pink aluminum one that turns on it’s pedestal. You can borrow it if you want. It can serve as a ‘headlight’ too. 🙂
            It’s only a foot & half tall.

          • Flanagan

            How did you know that’s what we wanted??? Oh yes, please, yes, now that I know one’s out there, Christmas just won’t be the same with a tired old green tree. And I LOVE the Christmas tree scent those aluminum trees fill the house with. Joy to the World…….

          • twifan2

            I have Fir scented sticks that you can hang from it to add to the ambiance! 🙂
            AND it has fiber optic tips that change colors!
            Oh My! 🙂

          • Flanagan

            Fiber Optic tips! Multi colored! And it can smell like a real tree! Dear God Almighty, how have I lived without this magnificent vision of Christmas at it’s most majestic grandeur? I will begin my pilgrimage, and do whatever I must, to have this resplendent representation of all that is holy.

          • twifan2

            I shall take a pic of this miracle of nature, as soon as I find out what box I packed it in. :/

          • Flanagan

            Oh twifan2, you have given meaning to my life! I am forever in your debt. Your humble servant, Flanagan

          • twifan2

            OH!!! I almost forgot!
            There’s a rotating pink lit flamingo that goes with it!
            Wonders never cease! :’)
            Oh most Happy of Holidays!
            Yes Virginia(Flanagan) there is a Santa Clause!

          • WestCoastFeed

            That is beyond!!!!!

          • Flanagan

            Okay twifan2, you’ve done me in. All of that, AND a pink flamingo?
            Finally, the REAL meaning of Christmas!

          • twifan2

            Gives me warm feeling in my chest!
            Oh wait, that’s just Chats on my chest. :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Sorry no flamingo but will this do?

          • twifan2

            YIKES! 😮

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            LOL! Yikes just about sums it up!

          • WestCoastFeed

            1955 – 1960. I recognize the Danish modern chair.

          • twifan2

            This is PinkieFlo! 🙂
            I’ll have to unpack her soon! :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            O/T but wanted to share.
            A couple of years after my Mom had passed my cousins threw a huge 70th B-day bash for my Uncle. (He married my mom’s sister.)
            Some of their childhood/teenage friends were there. One gentleman came up to me, introduced himself & told me he used to go on double dates my mom, her sister & my Uncle when they were teens. He told me the cutest story about sneaking a kiss from her.
            He said that it was a game they used to play when they would go driving to the movies or the car-hop, etc., etc., like punch-buggy, only sweeter.
            (I think the gals from my generation will get the punch-buggy reference. Unless it’s just an East Coast thing, lol!)
            Anyway, whenever you would see a car with one headlight you would call out ‘padiddle’ & steal a quick kiss. He said the boys used to search & search for any cars with one headlight just so they could steal a kiss.
            Sorry to go O/T but the anniversary of my Mom’s passing is coming up & I am trying to stay upbeat, so I just wanted to share.
            Carry on, LOL!

          • twifan2

            I had to Google ‘punch-buggy’, T-Lily. 😀
            I actually thought it was when someone punched their car to get it to start! 😀

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            LMBO! In NY you’d probably be right!

          • Flanagan

            Oh Tigerlily, what a marvelous story. I’m betting no one can read this without smiling.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Thanks. Crying & smiling together right now. Thanks Hon.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Wha a great story!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Aww thanks Naws. He was sooo sweet & said such wonderful things about my Mom. I hung out with him for half the party just so I could listen to them all. The sweetest thing he told me was that I just like my Mom. Broke my heart but made me soar all at the same time.

          • twifan2

            That’s the best Christmas present & compliment you could ever get, T-Lily! ❥)

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            It really was Twi. My Moms was the bestest! I know I’m a bit partial but she was an incredible woman with amazing strength, perseverance & so much love to give!

          • twifan2

            Cherish it, T-Lily!
            I know I do! 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Same here Kiddo. Same here. If I could be half the mom my Mom was? Well that would fill my heart with joy!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            You were lucky to have gotten to hear those great things! Your Mom is very proud of you and don’t forget it!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Ita. I was very lucky to have met him. Thanks Sweetie. I appreciate it.

          • Awesome story!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Aww, thanks Honey. He was so sweet when he told me the story. He had this little gleam in his eye & I could see how fond he was of my Mom, just by his impish gri. & the way he spoke of her. It was heart-breaking & heart-warming at the same time. (ɔ◔‿◔)ɔ ♥
            Just made me so happy! I couldn’t thank him enough for sharing his memories of her!

      • Welcome Flanagan! 🙂

        • Flanagan

          Thank you, Holiday Cheer!

    • BooHoo

      Watch yourself NeNe….crazy girl Bonita could pop back in today….lol

      • Nene robs kids

        I’m ready for her at anytime! I like to mess with people like her! LOL

        • BooHoo

          She was easy prey. She really should stick to blogs that do not require intellectual reading skills..She did not know if she was coming or going but after a few rounds with us she left and took her post with her. Tre Huggers number one cheerleader.

      • twifan2

        We’ll sue! ;D

        • Nene robs kids

          And we know an attorney that will take any case! Teresa has him right now

          • twifan2

            We won’t have to wait too long for him then! 🙂

    • Mary Stonehouse

      I crack up every time I read what her followers call her, “Tre Hugger”!

      • Nene robs kids

        Me too what a lovely name lol

  • TartLemon

    IMO, Teresa’s pushing this deny deny deny too far to be believable. She doesn’t know when to quit. Teresa didn’t start at the bottom of the attorney barrel. She started at the top no doubt and was told how any filing would open the files to every secret or practice she neglected to reveal or the attorneys told her was not in the best interest to continue. I still giggle at the prospect of being a fly on the wall in the attorney’s office with the blatant ‘cash only no receipts’ appearances. According to the rumor mill, Teresa had been doing that for a very long time.

    Teresa knows what she did wrong. There would have been no reason to create fraudulent income statements if the truth would have gotten the $$. Teresa CHOSE to do it. Nobody else is at fault for Teresa’s CHOICES. There would have been no reason to post a ‘cash only no receipts’ sign if Teresa did not KNOW receipts (credit card/checks) could be traced.

    TERESA KNEW EVERYTHING

    • Isn’t this the truth. When someone pushes something down your throat ALL the time, it’s likely the opposite of what they’re saying. Very good point, TartLemon.

      • Pinky Pie

        It is the truth Ruth! It is what makes us notice statements like “my four beautiful daughters,” that make use look at those girls with a critical eye. It is if Teresa thinks she can brainwash us in to believing her, and thinking like her. Mind control. She repeats things to try to convince us or to make us take her word as truth. Teresa knows exactly what she has done, and what she is doing. While, I am sure the attorney Teresa is suing isn’t poor, how will this suit affect his firm? Is there a chance cutbacks might happen? Will some innocent no longer be employed? I doubt she cares if there is a snowballs chance Teresa and her lovely daughters could make bank. Make no mistake, Teresa is out for Teresa. She uses her children, and she threw her husband under the bus. On WWHL Joe was forced to apologize to Teresa. She sat there with a smirk on her face. What an ugly pig. I don’t like Joe, at all. Why didn’t Teresa have to apologize to Joe for not being able to live within her means(the money he made didn’t seem to be good enough for her royal ugliness).

    • Nene robs kids

      ITA she knew it all

    • Flanagan

      It doesn’t make sense either, that Teresa claims to be an astute, professional business woman on the one hand, yet she is so incompetent, she didn’t even read the financial documents she was signing. Chapter 1, Business 101, starts out “Read every word before you put your name to it”. Teresa is, as usual, trying to have it both ways. I do find it amusing, when she takes on her “I don’t understand any of this” persona, she shifts from the deep authoritarian voice, to the wispy, smoky, slurry confused voice, and starts blinking and tearing up, like an innocent young maiden being falsely accused of stealing the neighbors flock of sheep.

      • twifan2

        For some really good laughs, you should see on the season she was on The Apprentice Celebrity. OMG! 😮
        No words!

        • WestCoastFeed

          She was so out of her element. She only lasted as long as she did by flying under the radar.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Yes, I saw that season. She played a meek and mild person; a follower, not a leader.

          • twifan2

            As bad as Nay Nay on Dancing With the Stars! 😀
            SO not her forte’!

          • WestCoastFeed

            And the only thing Arsenio had to say about her was that she was “not Intelligent.”

          • twifan2

            That cracks me up still. 😀

          • Nene robs kids

            OMG that was the hottest mess

          • twifan2

            I wanted to see Derek TRY & lift her! 😮
            I know that’s mean, but bet you did too! 😉

          • Nene robs kids

            YES YES YES he would break his back and never be able to have kids either lifting that moose

          • twifan2

            ROTFLMAO! 😀

          • Mary Stonehouse

            If it wasn’t for Flanagan (I’m one of her followers), I never would have found this intelligent, witty, and fun board. I feel as if I fell through the rabbit hole, but a good rabbit hole (LOL)!

          • twifan2

            aaahhh Welcome down this path of intelligent, civil insanity, Mary Stonehouse! 🙂
            AND for an added bonus!!! You get this wonderful cat-Chats! 🙂

          • Nene robs kids

            This is a very fun place! Welcome to the fun!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Welcome Mary! Glad you’re here. Happy posting!

          • Addie2U

            Same here. Flanagan is sweet, funny & intelligent. I’m also one of her followers.

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I’m very happy to meet you, if you don’t mind I’m going to follow you. Yes, Flanagan is one of a kind. Blackwell told me about her; v Blackwell was the first person who made me feel welcome on another stream, but I must say, I like these folks quite a bit!

          • Addie2U

            Follow away☺ & I’m happy to meet you also (just wish I could also follow you, but that’s okay). It’s so nice to meet some fun, witty, & intelligent folks in this sea of delusional “reality”. ☺

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Why can’t you follow me?

          • Addie2U

            Your account says “private”. I just checked again, seeing if there’s some way to get around it, but I don’t see how. 🙁

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I went back in and corrected it, when I set it up, I must have pushed the privacy prompt without fully understanding–Please try again and let me know if I corrected it.

          • Addie2U

            It worked. I’m now following you. See me waving ٩(˘◡˘)۶ & here’s a flower (✿◠‿◠) (courtesy of twifan2)
            And here’s some music ♪♫♪ (courtesy of NumLock) ☺

          • Mary Stonehouse

            You are my first follower! I should be giving you condolences (lol)! If you didn’t tell me, I would have thought I was a complete dunce for not even having one follower. Thank you for being sticking with me.

          • Addie2U

            I’m a loyal friend, whose been known to be stubborn — but I prefer to call it “persistence” & “devotion” (& it’s proved to be beneficial more times than not). (◔◡◔)

        • Flanagan

          We DID watch that. Thankfully, the memories are almost purged from my head.

      • Mary Stonehouse

        If I didn’t know better, I’d say T.G. has multiple personalities, I’m not kidding! She slips into those different voices as easily as she changes her outfits, or hair extensions!1

        “…maiden falsely stealing…”–great line and creepily funny!

        • Nene robs kids

          Mary I totally agree. I have often thought she has muliples

    • Pinky Pie

      I just cannot up arrow this enough…Teresa knew everything!

      • twifan2

        There you go, Pinky Pie!
        Up Arrow Kitty to the rescue!
        For when 1 Up Arrow is NOT enough! 🙂

        http://i.imgur.com/VZ7WXbS.gif

        • Pinky Pie

          Thank you! Even the kitty agrees with me! 🙂 I love that little kitten!

  • Nene robs kids

    If you go to this new attorney’s website I think he’s a strange looking one!

    • twifan2

      Do I need to be leery when I look?
      I just ate my dinner.

      • Nene robs kids

        Well I just think he looks like a scheister

        • Flanagan

          I’m going to tip toe over….be back…..

          • Nene robs kids

            ok lol

          • Flanagan

            eech…..he looks like he could be Teresa’s brother. And yes, I could almost see the dollar signs dancing over his head.

          • Nene robs kids

            Yes I think he’s wacky looking

          • twifan2

            Is that spray on hair on his head?! o.0

          • Nene robs kids

            Maybe Teresa gave him some towards her court costs for filing this lawsuit!

          • Flanagan

            Now I’ve got the neighbor’s dogs barking in a frenzy from my uproarious laughter. Got to go shut the door.

          • Pinky Pie

            He is going to get sued for malpractice. Poor guy.

          • twifan2

            WAIT for me!
            Hold my hand!

          • Flanagan

            Be brave…..take a quick look, and run right back!

          • twifan2

            Ok, may God have mercy on you! 🙂

          • Flanagan

            Thanks! I just got back to safety. It was a perilous journey, but I know you can do it!

  • Nene robs kids

    Happy Holidays we are now down to 29 days until her new home at the Federal Penn

  • Nene robs kids

    So what’s Juicy Joe going to do to celebrate his C wife going to prison?

    • Flanagan

      Whatever it is, we can count it in bottles. In multiples of 10.

      • twifan2

        He needs more exercise!
        He needs to pull out/up boxes of wine! 🙂

        • Nene robs kids

          Maybe that “lost” shipment will mysteriously show up!

      • Pinky Pie

        We can count and bottles and women. 🙂

  • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

    Wowie, wow, wow. Boy am I late to the party. Catching up as quick as I can. But dang! Over 1000 comments, totally kick-azz!

    • Nene robs kids

      Chatty bunch on here lol

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        For sure Ne-Ne, but the best kind of Chatty McChatterson’s. We all abhor vile, disgusting, liars, thieves & felons!

        • Nene robs kids

          Yes we do for sure!

        • twifan2

          *sneaks Chats out of the room then*
          🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Chats is the exception to rule. He is a kitty on a mission.

          • twifan2

            What mission?
            To drive me completely insane by 2015?! o.0

  • Patricia_Cubas

    She needs medication never mind anything else.

    • twifan2

      I don’t think a drug has been invented yet for her ‘illness’. 🙁

      • Mary Stonehouse

        I’d administer a truth serum. I saw a movie where a little boy wished his father could only tell the truth for a day. Well, it was hilarious; the father was a lawyer, so he could only say truths in the courtroom, and in his personal life. I wish that T.G. could be put under a spell to do that. Also, her husband would be included–he would be forced to reveal all his hidden stash of money. All of their victims would be paid back in full!

        • twifan2

          Liar, Liar? I think that’s it. With Jim Carrey. 🙂
          OMG! I don’t think I could take the truth from that pair!
          Maybe they’d self-com-bust telling the truth?! 😀

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Yes, “Liar, Liar” is the movie! I would just want the hidden cash returned, but their speeches I could miss. I think even with a truth serum, both of them would lie to some degree.

          • twifan2

            Personally, I would use some of Professor Snape’s veritaserum! 🙂

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Deuterium is the one! Tiger Lilly was right in saying that they would need a conscience with a regular truth serum.

          • twifan2

            Huh? H2-heavy hydrogen?
            I’m lost…

          • Mary Stonehouse

            Auto correct did a number on my veritaserum, sorry!! Auto correct drives me bananas sometimes, I correctly input a word, and when I push the post prompt, up comes whatever!

          • twifan2

            I know hat you mean! 😀
            It took me forever to disable it on my phone. 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Think you might need a conscience for that stuff to work Mary, so that def leaves them out! LOL!

    • Addie2U

      When I read that Angelica Houston felt bad for Teresa I had to watch the clip for myself. She actually added something about Teresa can’t help herself “have you seen that hairline”! ☺

      • Patricia_Cubas

        her lawyer made her & juicy sign the fraudulent loan apps then he sent his magic elf to make sure they didn’t review all the paperwork then mrs. claus came by & made all of their assets disappear so they had no clue what they had. rudolph the red nose reindeer also stopped by & made their rental income property guide santa’s sled & they went off to the north pole!! yeah this is all true because pinnochio said so!!

        • Addie2U

          Teresa told you that, didn’t she? ☺

  • TartLemon

    Did anyone else here happen to see Wendy Williams rip Teresa a new one? It was either Thurs or Fri. It was about the latest lawsuit. WW said loud, clear and without reservation that Teresa was a “CROOK!” The audience collectively gasped. I couldn’t believe it! WTG WW!

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      It was Thursday. At about 8:30 in she starts talking about Tre!
      http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/12/04/mariah-carey-christmas-tree-lighting/#.VIO7fTHF9Zk

      • twifan2

        Thx for the link, T-Lily! 🙂
        OMG! Wendy rips into Tre! 😀

      • Thanks! I’ll watch as soon as I get home.

      • twifan2

        Oh dear! Wendy better watch out or Tre will sue her for ‘slander’!
        Tre’s going to be busy busy the rest of this year!

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          So many, many lawsuits….
          So little time!

          • twifan2

            Merry Christmas Tre! 🙂

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Maybe she can some tips from the reindeers? Or at least the name of a GOOD attorney! LMBO!

          • Stacy Slotnick

            A civil lawsuit is so expensive these days that it is not typically affordable unless the attorney is willing to contract with the client on the basis of contingency. Lawsuits cost so much in part because of experts, depositions, and discovery. Even if she is awarded money here, after deductions for Cueva’s costs, she will be left with very little money and lots of aggravation.

      • Thanks T, just watched. And love WW’s diss. Trust & believe whatever WW is saying about Tre has been cosigned by Princess Andy. Princess uses WW & Anderson Cooper (when he had his pop culture talk show) as his mouth pieces.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Ha-ha! Andy will eventually have his fill too once Tre stops bringing in the bank for him & Bravo.
          I almost pissed myself when Andy gave LeAnn, Leaky Shart myself again Rimes, jackhole of the day for her stupid tweets about the non-existent riots in NY while she was performing at Rock Center.

      • Addie2U

        Thank you Tigerlily. You just saved me from searching for the clip.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          YW Addie. (>‿◠)✌

    • BooHoo

      Why the gasp….the fact she is a crook or being called a crook. Did the audience expect WW to take it easy on poor Teresa if so they should tune into Andy Cohen. Crook, I think is a nice name compared to what I would have called her…..

      • twifan2

        I guess maybe they weren’t expecting for someone to actually call them out in public national tv what the Juicys really are.

      • TartLemon

        IMO, the audience agreed; the gasp was because it was so honest and unexpected. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone on a successful talk show have the guts to just blurt that out. Usually everybody is all ‘I feel so sorry for the kids…. blah blah blah’.

        How on Earth can Teresa sue WW? Teresa is a CONVICTED CRIMINAL. I kinda wish she would sue, though. More of the dirty details of Teresa’s crimes would be revealed.

        • BooHoo

          Is there any dirty details left. This couple they are bottom feeders that live off other peoples money. Think they are entitled to it because in their twisted minds they are Stars. Once she starts doing her time there will be stories published by her hard-up friends stating “how depressed and how much she misses her kids” yada yada yada. Hopefully after that they all crawl back into the holes they came out of. Cohen will wakeup and cancel the show…of course this is my hopeful thinking out loud….lol

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Yes! I DVR Wendy Williams and adore her because she tells it like it is and provides very honest commentary on popular culture. The fact is not everyone is saying this woman is a crook. Criminals don’t change their colors overnight, so the idea of her scapegoating a lawyer and blaming him for the predicament she finds herself in is normal for a criminal because criminals habitually deflect blame. Superb TV find as it relates to this case, TartLemon!

  • CeeJay

    So she’s suing the attorney that filed their bankruptcy, right? Not the attorneys that represented her in the mail fraud, wire fraud case, correct? How in any way would that attorney’s actions cause her to lose income? Her income will be lost because she’s a convicted criminal due to a plethora of illegal activities including, but limited to the bankruptcy. I’m very confused about her strategy.

    • Pinky Pie

      How long, do you think it will be, until Teresa sues the attorney’s that presented the plea deal that wasn’t explained and she didn’t understand? Teresa is one of the biggest liars around. I hope she goes directly to prison.

      • CeeJay

        One would assume that’s coming next, especially with her fans crying those attorneys were inept. Who is the attorney who is foolish enough to represent her and lead her down this path? If I was that attorney I’d have trouble falling asleep at night wondering if I was putting a nail in my own coffin AND if I was ever going to be compensated for my work.

        • Pinky Pie

          I’m starting to feel like we will need the government law enforcement to form a special team to drag her by her feet to prison. I hope she tries to escape so more time will be tacked on to her sentence. 15 months for the amount of money they stoled and for the length of time that the crimes were committed, isn’t a long enough punishment.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        Unfortunately, I think all attorneys are fair game, especially in this case. Teresa is certainly not afraid to point fingers and sue those closest to her when they don’t do what she wants or deliver the goods she desires. Lawyers are always susceptible to complaints from clients to the Bar as well as legal malpractice claims but in this case, it wouldn’t seem more likely than not that this is not the last legal malpractice claim she will file.

        • Pinky Pie

          Thank you, Stacy. I guess Teresa is not going softly, or with dignity into prison. I think she was born with anger and lying in her heart. Teresa should hang her head in shame. Will there ever be a discussion about removing her children from her, because of her behavior?

    • Stacy Slotnick

      OK, let’s break it down so that you are less confused, CeeJay, by Teresa’s latest legal move. She filed this malpractice lawsuit in an effort to cloudy her plea deal with the government. Two things she is looking for: 1) delay Jan. 5 surrender date by showing that her attorney committed legal malpractice in not filing forms properly and not investigating her bankruptcy case like a reasonable attorney would; and 2) settle out of court with Kridel and collect money. What are her damages from this alleged malpractice? Teresa claims Kridel is the reason she got nailed with bankruptcy fraud and that’s why she’s going to prison for 15 months.

      • Poo

        Stacy, My confusion and others have also expressed is that the bankruptcy fraud was only one of the charges that she plead guilty to. What about the bank fraud and tax evasion. She has already been sentenced and has a departure date for those. Wont that sentence be upheld by Judge Salas?

  • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿
  • Flanagan

    Perhaps Teresa will bolt at the last minute on January 5, and we’ll get to see the pursuit, with all of the police cars chasing her, like O.J. Simpson. Wouldn’t that be a hoot! Andy Cohen will be driving the white SUV, shouting “My name is Andy Cohen! You know who I am, #@%$#!!”

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      LOL! Only instead of a white bronco it will be a fully loaded white escalade!

      • Flanagan

        With Teresa hunkered down in the back!

      • Mary Stonehouse

        Tigerlily, when the police finally catch the car, Teresa will say, that Andy confused her. Andy told her he was taking her to report to jail, and he lied to get more publicity for Bravo! She’s so sorry for her mistake in believing him, boohoo, tears coming down her cheeks.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      What a mental image! Hey, stranger things have happened. We’ll all be following January 5 closely to see if she “pulls an O.J.” Although, she drives a ML 350 (Mercedes) not a Bronco, right?

      • Flanagan

        Oh yes. And perhaps the repo man in his tow truck will be bringing up the rear of the pursuit, shouting “I don’t care what it takes, I’m getting that #@%$# car!!!”

    • Addie2U

      Too funny☺ I can see her now with her 4 beautiful dawh-ters in tow. Melania will be looking out the back window, yelling “step on it mom”!

  • TartLemon

    Pretending for a moment this lawsuit will make it anywhere in court, it would be YEARS before Teresa saw a single ¢ of a payout. I don’t know all the legal jargon and steps, but do know filings, hearings and appeals take a VERY long time.

    • Flanagan

      Yes indeed. A very simple probate case my sister and I filed took just over 2 years. So this probably wouldn’t be settled till after Joe gets out of prison.

    • Poo

      Tart, also think of the vast amounts of money that would be spent by Cuevas’s law firm because he took it on contingency. Cuevas’s partners may have something to say about that. I have a gut feel that this atty may be figuring out that he has taken on more than he expected.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Absolutely. Trials can take decades to resolve themselves (especially in complex litigation where discovery is lengthy) after all appeals have been exhausted. However, because only a small portion of lawsuits are actually resolved by trial, no doubt Teresa expects her case to settle so that she will receive a fraction of her claimed damages, i.e., $5M.

  • godivademaus

    Having prepared bankruptcies as a paralegal for 15 years or so and, after having gone through my own, there is little thing called an Attestation. You have to sign it to file the papers and basically you are saying that you’ve read through all the schedules and lists and are stating that every dotted I and crossed t constitutes and absolutely accurate representation of your financial picture for the BK court. Your attorney doesn’t sign this part, the client does…. and then at the creditors meeting, the Trustee puts you on the record going over your petition with their questions and your answers and again, you are put on the record of attesting that what you filed is something you read, you understood, you are saying under oath that it includes all of your debts and liabilities and other circumstances that might impact a BK case (such as a potential personal injury suit, etc.) and the Trustee has you testify and put it under oath that the data you filed was accurate. You, the client, are responsible to read and know the schedules and attest to their veracity… Your attorney facilitates the filing, but it is the client’s “representation” not the attorneys.

    So, I concur that this latest litigious excursion will not end well for her and the whole piercing the attorney client privilege veil is “GI-normous.” If there wasn’t a whole lot to hide then there’d have been no logical reason for the Giudices not to take this to trial. So it’s not an unreasonable read that they accepted the plea deal because they knew there was a pretty good chance they’d get ALOT more time, which means this attorney they are sueing knows where the bodies are buried. I never thought Theresa was the smartest lady in the world… I cannot imagine Joe, with a potential deportation after his jail stint is done will want those skeletons released. One rather wonders that even if their attorney sat down and explained it to both of them like they were 4, their comprehension would still tip the scales at “pre-school.”

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Thank you godivademaus for contributing your own personal account of what preparing bankruptcy paperwork for the last 15 years looks like. I think what you have recounted above further proves that the Giudices use accountants, friends, and especially lawyers to act as fall guys for their myriad crimes. This time, it appears Teresa has bit off more than she can chew.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Hi godivademaus. Welcome. Thanks for sharing that with us. Seems Tre still hasn’t learned her lesson. Look what she got the first time she opened Pandora’s box. Now she’s going back for seconds? What a ma-roon!
      https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meforpkGI91qa6pjko1_400.gif

  • Nene robs kids

    I suspect that Teresa is hoping for a settlement ASAP (before Jan 5th) in this case.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      You are absolutely correct that she wants this case to settle quickly but that is definitely not going to happen. Unless Kridel was negligent, he has no impulse to resolve this case expeditiously. Remember too, Kridel’s insurer will be involved in a potential negotiation and the insurance companies allow legal malpractice cases to drag on for months and years typically because they are not easy cases for plaintiffs to win. Even if Kridel hires outside counsel, his insurance company will be involved every step of the way because that is where the funds will be released from should Teresa ever collect.

    • TartLemon

      Yeah, and she’s expecting to get over $3 MILLION for a house appraised well below that.

      • Nene robs kids

        Exactly I think that house will go bye bye while she’s in prison, Taken by the banks

        • TartLemon

          Yep, and not a damned thing Teresa can do about it from prison. No day passes and excursions out to find new downsized housing. That’s what the 3 months were for.

    • Addie2U

      Teresa will not go to prison willingly.

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        I’m waiitng for the “heart” problems & the complete & total breakdown. 5150 type stuff.

        • Nene robs kids

          Good thing they have medical in the Federal Penn

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Tre probably thinks they’ll send her to some cushy hospital. Boy oh boy is she in for a rude awakening! LOL!

      • Nene robs kids

        ITA

  • TartLemon

    Always scheming and conniving to get other people’s $$$. I don’t doubt she is getting paid for these items at ROL even though they’re negative. One thing I noticed is the timing of the inundation. All quiet when she wanted private Holiday Family time.

  • TartLemon

    This bankruptcy thing has been going on for several YEARS. The Giudices were asked probably by multiple clerks who organized and collated the data in the law offices if the line by line information was correct. All this was before the documents were poured over (line by line) by Attorney who signed the documents.

    Teresa says she gave them everything they asked for. Uhhhh…. no, she withheld stuff, otherwise they would not have had to continually ASK FOR IT. How many times did they have to say “GIVE US EVERYTHING”

    • Poo

      Well, she held out assets in Judge Salas court also. For some reason Joe and Teresa think they are smarter than the forensic accountants working for the Feds. Its a pattern with them and bet they would lose their most current lawsuit just based on previous history of lying on disclosure documents, from the bankruptcy to mortgage applications to the IRS.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        The delusions keep on coming and deflection is a sociopath’s middle name.

    • Anne Green

      That is just it!!! She said she gave them “everything they asked for”. Her defense is going to be “they never asked me about TGFabublious LLC or the income derived from it or the bank accounts pertaining to it or the intellectual property or the Maple Street property or the income derived from it….they never asked”. She will say “if Kridel did a proper through investigation, he would have known about these assets and asked me….he didn’t”. She’s crazy!!!

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        Well golly gee Anne, aren’t the best lawyers psychics too?
        How else will Tre get $$$ for her four be-u-ti-fool dawtters college funds? (Cough-cough!)
        She can’t go back to her usual old ways of thieving because now everybody knows who & what she truly is & now everybody is watching her. So she’s gonna go this route & do it in front of our faces. Legally.

        • Pinky Pie

          I liked the story better when she would have let them in to root around digging through her stuff. Didn’t Teresa say that she would let them in. Can you imagine a scenario of the lawyers digging through her underwear drawer looking for valuable jewelry? I cannot believe Teresa is dumb, maybe book dumb, but she is pretty smart to start this lawsuit. It sounds like she going after everyone, that tried to help her, until she finally gets money.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I agree Pinky. It’s like her only recourse to get her hands on some funds now that everyone knows what a lying, thieving shyster she is!

          • Pinky Pie

            Teresa current lawsuit seems like it should be illegal. I think she is trying to hurt someone because she didn’t get her way. I hope every lawsuit, like this that Teresa files, gets thrown out of court. Teresa is a nightmare.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Well maybe she’ll tire after she circles the bowl a few more times!
            Who knows?
            Nah! What am I saying. It’s the Tre-ape. She’ll never stop stealing or blaming others. It’s not in her DNA,

          • Addie2U

            She’ll never stop stealing, blaming others, or throwing tantrums when things don’t go her way.

          • twifan2

            THAT is so Tre! 😀

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            The guy in the coffee shop that throws a little shade & then takes one step to the right is hilarious!

          • Addie2U

            Someone proficient at PhotoShop needs to replace this image with Teresa.
            http://countrystore.blogspot.com/images/davis_circling_the_bowl_animated.gif

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            That would be Twi. I am not that good. Stills I can handle. Gifs & videos are Twi’s specialty!

          • twifan2

            OH KOOL! 🙂
            I’ve been looking for a gif like that! 🙂

          • Addie2U

            Excellent. From what I hear you’re just the person who can do this gif justice. ☺

          • Addie2U

            Teresa doesn’t like it when things don’t go her way.

          • Pinky Pie

            Pitiful, just pitiful! Note to Teresa, throw your whole body into it!

          • twifan2

            Bet that was Tre at that age! :/

          • Addie2U

            I specifically searched for a child that resembled her.☺☺

          • twifan2

            Excellent job, Addie2U! ◉◡◉

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿
          • Addie2U

            With 2 “role models” like Tre & Joe it’s pretty obvious who those kids take after.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Such a charming child!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            It really is sad that she acts out that way. Seems to me that she is just crying for attention & they all just sit around & laugh at her. Like it’s amusing somehow. SMDH!

          • Pinky Pie

            Remember when Teresa was trying to elbow Bethenny out of her way? Teresa started talking about how her Fabellini didn’t taste diety like skinny girl. I just thought she demonstrated exactly how jealous she was of Bethenny. Teresa named her cookbook “Skinny Italian,” now who would eat, or make, skinny Italian food? Talk about someone copying an idea. I wish Bethenny would sue the pants off Teresa the liar copycat.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I’d bet my bottom dollar that Tre was one of ‘those’ kids that would sneak off & break you toys & wreck your stuff because you got something wicked cool for your birthday or Christmas & she didn’t. & then she’d act all innocent. Picking up the toys & showing them to you while saying, “OMG, look. What happened?”
            All the while she’s smiling devilishly on the inside!
            Heck everyone says that Milania is a mini version of the ape!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            True, true, true!!!!

          • Addie2U

            My older brother did that to me every Christmas. 1 year he even threw my new doll into the fireplace & burned her beyond recognition! Thanks for bringing up those painful memories ☺☺

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Oh jeez Addie! I’m sorry! Bad brother. Bad!
            Little chit-head!
            My oldest sister could be like that too sometimes. She’d snap or break something in half right in front of you as you cried. Evil siblings. LOL!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            My son told my daughter that he was going to pour NAIR into her shampoo bottle. She used to hide her shampoo every day after that!!!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            And my daughter convinced my son that he was adopted and he believed it for many years. My kids were tooooooooo much.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Eeek! My sister did that chit too. She convinced our middle sister she was adopted. She even went so far as to pull out an old afghan blanket that our great-grandmother made & said that was the blanket she was wrapped in! What a turd!

          • Addie2U

            For years I was told Indians dropped me off on the doorstep & I believed them!☺☺

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            My Uncle told me once that I needed to have a passport to get back into NY from NJ. I bawled my eyes out! Started hyperventilating.
            But then again I lost my ish watching Peter Pan because they stuck Tinkerbell in the jar & there were no air holes in the top for her to breathe. Literally freaked out! Sooo… LMBO!

          • Addie2U

            Sounds like we could’ve come from the same family except I never saw Peter Pan (honest → to this day I’ve only seen about 2 Disney movies & only as an adult. We had 1 Black & White TV & on Sunday night it was Jackie Gleason or bed. I grew up loving him & wishing he was my uncle)☺

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Were you the antenna & channel changer too?
            Twwwwwwffffffffttttt. Twwwwwwwwwwwwwwffttt!

            Loved Jackie. I actually have an autographed photo of the 4 of them signed by each one. It’s one of my favorite treasures.
            Only reason we got to watch Disney on Sunday nights was because my poor Mom was outnumbered. It was let us watch or be driven to insanity! LOL!
            (The Uncle that I talk about so fondly was the best. He was a perfect blend of Ed Norton & Stan Laurel of Laurel & Hardy. Such an imp he was. A sweet, dear man. I loved him so much I named my son after him.)

          • Poo

            Funny, my older siblings said the same thing. Took them 30 years to apologize

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            At least you GOT an apology. I’m just this side of 50 & I’m still waiting!
            See this is why I had one & only one! Why mess with perfection? LMBO!

          • Pinky Pie

            And, now, Tigerlily, I do feel sorry for Teresa’s children. I hope the authorities start an investigation into Teresa and Joe and remove them from two parents who have made a total mess of their young lives.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I do feel bad for the girls. They are absolutely going to pay the heaviest price for their parents poor choices & bad decisions. It’s despicable that their parents would have no consideration or remorse as to the consequences that will befall their girls. Which came about solely because of their actions. Their need for greed, wealth & fame

          • noarguingwithstupid

            They never gave those girls a thought!!! They think of them as untouchables and that saying I love you will always be enough.

          • twifan2

            ‘Untouchables’? Imo, more like goods, assets, property to be used for their own advantages. smh :/

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Absolutely–that’s what I was trying to say–just property that no one could take or touch. I guess she never heard of Child Protection in this country!!

          • twifan2

            Notice how during the post-sentencing interview with princess Andie, she kept saying ‘MY dauters’? Just twice, toward the end she said ‘our’ dauters. BUT then she wa back to MY in the extra footage. Telling!

          • twifan2

            I’m gonna be burned to the stake by the TreHuggers for that tidbit!
            Get your hot dogs, marshmallows ready! PARTY! 😀

          • Addie2U

            Some of those “TreHuggers” are brutal Neanderthals. Last month I commented on an article & got slammed by them so I left the site. It wasn’t until the next day when the heavy artillery (reinforcements) came in! (Those with their frontal lobes intact.)☺

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I just use the old Huh response and act like a dummy (which comes quite naturally to me!!!!!!}

          • twifan2

            You know me NAWS!
            Does it look lie I give a crap! ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`▭´)ノ︵ ┻━┻
            😀

          • Addie2U

            If you’re not a “TreHugger” you’re clearly NO dummy.

          • twifan2

            😀
            Bless those brainless idolatrolls! 🙂
            Hope you got out there unscathed?

          • Stacy Slotnick

            That is so unfortunate. There is room for debate. Why people get personal is beyond me. I am far more impressed by people who use the facts to bolster their arguments.

          • Addie2U

            Here’s Tre & Joe spending money they “don’t have” on a new lawsuit & their 13yr old Gia is begging for money from strangers to put out a new Christmas video!
            ETA: Wow! Just noticed they cancelled it 6 days ago!!

            https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3ktofficial/3kt-season-of-joy-music-video-original

          • Pinky Pie

            I didn’t feel that bad for them until this new lawsuit. Now, I feel like it will truly never end for them. And, I happen to think children are a blessing, and Teresa no longer deserves them. C.P.S. Needs to remove them from Teresa and Joe forever. It is the only way to save them.

          • twifan2

            DANG! She found that penny!
            That should be enough! :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            LMFAO! Oh look a penny! How childish was that? So stupid!

          • twifan2

            I was like ‘WTH?’
            Is she fur reals with that?! O.o?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            She has a real fixation with pennies–she is just plain ignorant and weird.

          • twifan2

            Shiny pennies!
            ^o^

          • Pinky Pie

            Oh, pretty, pretty!

          • Addie2U

            ..

          • Addie2U

            She easily gets distracted by anything bright & shiny ☺

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Me too. I was like. Damn gurl. It’s just a penny. Wtf?

          • Pinky Pie

            Lol! You’re right! Teresa found money and luck, who can top her now! Wow! Talk about an example of some type of personality disorder, stomping off the stage to complete joy over a stupid penny. I just figured out how the can get her into her cage….leave a trail of pennies to the prison door. Teresa will be so gleeful!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          • Pinky Pie

            Perfect! Just like that! Omg, still lol’ing!

          • Addie2U

            I think Andy put that penny in the ladies room to help her out. But it’s “commonsense” she needs not “cents”!

            BTW: I’ve read that Tre thinks it was Melissa that dropped the “dime” on her & Joe (& that’s why the Feds caught up to them)☺

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I think you are correct!! Andy seems to know a little about her brain and how it works (or doesn’t , for that matter!!!!)

          • Poo

            Addie, so you are saying that Tre is blaming this on Mel. Hello, the income to debt ratio is what caught those jerks up. Mel isn’t smart enough to know where to start…besides she may be next in line

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            The Tre-huggers all say that Mel & Joey were the ones that sicced the Feds on Tre & Juicy. I’d bet Tre believes it too.

          • Poo

            That’s BS but then again, Tre huggers are full of it. I don’t think Melissa and Joe are interested in drawing the attention from ANYONE in the Federal Government

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Exactly Poo! I’m certain that Tre pulling out $120,000 in cash to pay for their furniture delivery in Season 1 had nothing to do with it!
            Nothing what-so-ev-ah!

          • Poo

            Of course not silly girl, We all have 120 k ready to pay for furniture . Alas, my 401k would be empty, hope yours wouldn’t

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            What 401k? That chit disappeared long time ago with ginormus hospital bills. At this point $20k would be a huge bank for me!

          • Poo

            Damn, I hate that for you. It’s just not fair. Worked in a hospital for 30 years as a social worker, tried to fight for people like you with limited success. Healthcare should be a right NOT a privilege in this country. I will now step off my soapbox and take the hits.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Applause from me.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Yes, yes, yes and I don’t care who disagrees!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Nobody could disagree with you Naws. You’re just too darn cute & lovable!
            & if they did they’d have all of AAtT on their butts!
            No body better mess with OUR girl. Fo’ chit sure!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            You are so right. Keep on fighting!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Dang girl you were trying to topple Goliath!
            & I for one thank you! From the bottom of my heart Poo. Thank you!
            Not only do I applaud you! I give you a standing “O”!

          • Poo

            I’m off the thread but on my soapbox. Healthcare is a travesty of justice. The healthcare and pharmaceutical companies get richer on the pain and sickness of everyday Americans and our elected officials take their money and thumb their noses at us. Tiger lily is a perfect example of everyday people being bled of their futures to enhance the wealth of others. Makes me want to barf. For those not in the know, the American Cancer Society, which takes in millions a year from our contributions, will NOT help a self pay or lessor pay patient with their bills. Will now jump off the box again.

          • Addie2U

            Come on now, Tigerlily. We all know where Tre got that money.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Under the chicken coop? LOL!

          • Addie2U

            Yes, Tre has even said that it’s ALL Melissa’s fault (I can’t find it but it was either in her Bravo blog or during an interview over the past month).

          • Addie2U

            It was either in her Bravo blog or during an interview after her sentencing — she said that Melissa had been trying to bring them down for years & she finally succeeded! (Unfortunately my PC is acting up & I can’t find the link).

          • twifan2

            Ask WestCoastFeed, she could possibly tell you where to look?

          • Mary Stonehouse

            See, it’s NEVER Teresa’s fault. Next, she’ll be saying the Devil made her do it!

          • Mary Stonehouse

            I remember Teresa also saying that Melissa ALWAYS copies her: The way she dresses, her makeup, her hair, her revolting home decor, wanting to get on Bravo, etc.

    • Stacy Slotnick

      That’s an excellent point. The lackluster claims in the complaint pale in comparison to how we all know the system works.

  • Nene robs kids

    Congrats Stacy! this blog has hit 1200 comments

    • twifan2

      AND climbing! 🙂

    • Stacy Slotnick

      It is beyond exciting. I think we have all proven Aristotle wrong since the law law may be grounded in reason, but it is certainly not free from passion! Kudos, bravo, and congrats to all you amazing posters for making this blog a super hit!

  • Anne Green

    I’m curious. If the filing of this complaint “pierces” the attorney/client privilege, does that only pertain to meetings/phone calls that Kridel had with Teresa or does it also “pierce” any conversations with Joe as well? I’m a bit confused as to the part where they filed jointly but later the bankruptcy’s were separated. Is that why Teresa is the sole Plaintiff?

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Stacy explained that because Tre is suing her bankruptcy lawyer that the attorney-client privilege is waived so he can defend himself against the charges she brought forth against him.
      Way to cut off your nose to spite your face huh?
      As far as Juicy goes? He’s not named. So I am uncertain as to what role he would have in this case.

      • Anne Green

        That’s why I was asking. I wonder if the privilege for any conversations between Joe and Kridel would be waived as well. This should be interesting.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Looks like this is gonna be another freakishly weird circus side-show from the Giudices. When all is said & done, I hope she winds up owing him money!

          • Anne Green

            I hope it opens her up for more charges and more prison time!

          • twifan2

            PLEASE!!!
            I do BELIEVE! 🙂

            http://i.imgur.com/YRc3cBb.gif

          • twifan2

            Well, if they both were present during the meetings/telephone convos for their bankruptcy-would that null/void the attorney/client privilege for Juicy? Or coud Mr. Kridel get those allowed for him to defend himself?

            Interesting! :/

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            It is. Because if Juicy discussed Tre with the attorney then aren’t the confidentiality of those conversations also waived? Hmmm, Idk. We need Stacy stat! Happy Sunday Twi.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            What may be waived when it comes to the attorney-client privilege in a legal malpractice suit are those communications between the attorney and client that will help disprove allegations in the complaint. The discussions between Joe and Kridel are not at issue here because he is not suing Kridel. As a client of Kridel’s, Joe is the holder of the attorney-client privilege in that scenario. If Joe wants to waive that privilege and release information he had with Kridel to help Teresa, he may do so, but Kridel cannot waive those communications he had with Joe.

            Sorry I could not answer sooner as work called in Miami Beach yesterday. Art Basel was amazing and I love working with talented artists and innovators. (Even they need contracts, licensing of goods, and a stalwart negotiator!) Hope you had a marvelous weekend, too. 🙂

          • Poo

            Saw The lady with cell phone battery chargers in her vagina. Interesting art.

          • Stacy Slotnick

            Because of the fraud, the couple’s bankruptcy from 2009 was cancelled by the court in September, which means that Teresa and Joe still owe more than $13M to creditors – all of which she seemingly wants to pin on the attorney. If Kridel turns around and counter-sues them or asks the court for sanctions in filing a frivolous lawsuit, they will need some serious source of (legal) income ASAP.

      • Stacy Slotnick

        It is my humble guess that Teresa will blame Joe as well for not including her in conversations about the progress of their bankruptcy proceeding. If it was Joe and Teresa Giudice v. Kridel, a judge or jury would have to apportion fault/blame to Joe too because Teresa is claiming he did not keep her in the loop. Then, as a result of Joe being let’s say 25% at fault, Teresa’s damages would be whatever the judge or jury awarded minus 25%.

    • Poo

      Hi Ann, can’t answer that question either but just reread the filing and Joe is mentioned several times. Dont know if that opens the door or not. West Coast has mentioned several times that she doesn’t think Teresa knew all the ins and outs of their finances and I agree to a point. Did you notice that book sales were not mentioned as income in the bankruptcy. Teresa was so proud of being a New York Times Bestselling Author that she did know about that income and did not declare it. That whole case is full of holes.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Hi, Poo. The book hadn’t even been written yet when they filed. But part of the problem with Teresa’s filing is that the court claimed she was lying about her advance. She had the contract from the publisher for some time, but didn’t sign it until after the bankruptcy filing date so that it wouldn’t be included among her assets.

        • Poo

          OK WCF, now I see the light. It was so many years between filing the bankruptcy petition and when it was adjudicated, I simply forgot. Thanks for reminding me. Reminds me of my former husband. Was given a huge raise but wouldn’t accept until after our divorce was final hummmmm I wonder why

    • Stacy Slotnick

      Happy Monday Anne! I love your use of the legal term, “pierce.” Attorneys usually apply “pierce” to business transactions such as “piercing the corporate veil” but your use works really well here too! In any event, the privilege will be reviewed by a judge and a judge will determine which phone calls, conversations, texts, emails, and documents Teresa has waived as the holder of the privilege by filing a legal malpractice lawsuit. The judge will determine which evidence is appropriate to include in the case in order to allow Kridel to defend himself appropriately and competently in the wake of the civil action.

  • twifan2

    Anyone else have a wackodoo time getting in here today? :/

    • Addie2U

      Still can’t get there! Read the article & now commenting directly via Disqus.

      • twifan2

        What browser you using, Addie2U?
        I used Opera & got in ok.
        Try anything BUT Chrome.

        • noarguingwithstupid

          I used chrome and had no problem. Maybe its the moon!!

        • Addie2U

          Tried Chrome with no luck. Opera is allowing me to see the comments but not allowing me to 1up or reply! Weird. Guess I’ll just keep reading (& replying) directly from Disqus. (Thanks for the tip though)☺

          • twifan2

            Did you try Restarting?

          • Addie2U

            Yep, & I’m here now. That was weird — I started typing my comment, then site crashed & came back up to let me finish typing. Must be because all the bright, funny, informative folks are here today☺

          • twifan2

            🙂
            Welcome back! ;D

          • Addie2U

            ☺☺☺

      • noarguingwithstupid

        I just tried and hopped right on.

        • twifan2

          Hopefully that ‘glitch’ has fixed itself now. 🙂

    • Poo

      Twi, am using Safari with no problems

      • twifan2

        I switched over to Opera! Worked. 🙂
        Thx Poo, I’ll try that next time it happens. >(

    • noarguingwithstupid

      First time I tried–I’ve been on the most recent board. Slow over there though!!

      • twifan2

        NAWS! How are all youses today? 🙂
        How’s The Pennster?
        Chats’ hungover today! 😀

        • noarguingwithstupid

          We are all fine!!!! Pennster has had her breakfast and is barking with the big dogs out on the balcony!!! How are you and the Chats (who I think is the official kitty of AATT!!!!

          • twifan2

            I’m ok. Had to go to a Xmas party last nite. :/
            It was ok. Hate all the small office talk tho. NOW the real Xmas parties start! 🙂
            Chats would be throw out of office in a sec if he were the ‘official’ AATT kitty! 😀

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Hi Honey! Happy Sunday.
            Wait a minute. Jenny & Callie might have something to say about that! LOL! Can we have a 3 way tie?

            Good thing my Callie can’t read hooman yet. She’d be miffed! LOL!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I am sorry Tiger!!! Let’s just make all of the kitties official reps of AATT!!! No one will have feelings hurt that way!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Smart thinking Naws! No cat-tiudes that way!

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      No Twi. Maybe your area is experiencing a problem? I had no trouble. I am using Chrome

      • twifan2

        1. I HATE Chrome!
        2. I despise CHROME!
        3. More than likely it was a glitch that’s fixed now. 🙂

        • noarguingwithstupid

          Chrome is all I have. Me loves CHROME!!!!

          • twifan2

            :p
            Double :p from Chats! (=^・ω・^=)

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            We need to get you some Firefox, Safari & Opera Naws.
            Always good to have a back-up.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            This computer is sooooooooo old I am afraid to do anything with it!!! If it goes, I will be a goner for sure!!!

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Eep, well we don’t want to lose you again! I hope Santa is listening.
            Hey Santa our girl Naws needs a new computer!

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Once I got in, no one could communicate. I have never seen it like that before. You could leave a post, but no one could answer.

      • twifan2

        & here Chats was all, ‘WELL keep ignoring me then! Peasants!’
        That be Chats! 😀

  • Nene robs kids

    1300 comments

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      1306! LOL!

  • twifan2
  • Flanagan

    Addie2U posted a comment that Gia’s Kickstarter campaign was cancelled six days ago. I did a little poking around, and on Stoopid Housewives, it says the video that the $7,500 was for had already been made. If this is true, then Teresa Giudice, and any other adults involved in this are even worse than I thought. Even if the explanation is “Yes, well, you know, the video HAD been made, but, you know, I borrowed the money, and had to pay it back.” That isn’t how it was presented on Kickstarter. I swear, IF this is true, and T.G. was the brains, excuse me, the instigator behind this, then it just proves, without a shred of a doubt, T.G.’s complete unrepentance and refusal to do anything that involves truth and honesty.

    • WestCoastFeed

      I read somewhere that kickstarter doesn’t call in the pledges until a minimum amount has been raised. I don’t think 3KT raised anywhere near the minimum in pledges.

      • Pinky Pie

        But, it does demonstrate that Teresa is teaching her daughter how to lie to get money from other people. People that were trying to “help.” Fortunately it didn’t work.

      • Flanagan

        Thanks WCF. I don’t know anything about kickstarter and how it works. In fact, I had never even heard of kickstarter till this. I guess I’ve been out of the loop.

      • twifan2

        That’s right WCF.
        Kickstarter doesn’t take your money til the goal has been reached.

    • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

      Yeppers. Vince our good buddy pointed that out a few days ago & asked Tre on twitter if she was going to tell the truth about the video & it’s BS funding!

      • Flanagan

        Wow. Another wonderful life lesson Teresa has imparted on her children.

        • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

          Yup. Quality parenting if I ever saw it Flanagan! Just awesome! What parents of the century these two are!

          • Flanagan

            Isn’t it amazing, in this big huge world, those two found each other.Fate was not kind to anyone. Especially their children.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Well I guess no other humans, outside of their specific ape species would dare to go there!

          • Flanagan

            Oh please, that just about did me in!

          • Addie2U

            At least they’re teaching them something.

          • This is a shame but very accurate.

        • twifan2

          I’ve ‘invested’ on Kickstarter before. They do have VERY interesting items on there that are worth the investment, BUT you have to be careful.

          • Flanagan

            I’ll take a look-see. I always very carefully investigate anything that involves parting with my money. Which I do not have an abundance of. But, I am happy to donate to a worthwhile and legitimate cause.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            I’ve only ever donated to people I have some connection to. Like my nephews good friend. His young 4 year old passed away suddenly due to an undiagnosed illness. They had no money for her funeral. So we donated to them. Other than that I trust no one!

          • Flanagan

            Oh geez, that is just so sad. Good for you Tigerlily, that was so kind. Yes, I have a very suspicious side when it comes to anyone asking for money. I often times will buy a lunch for a very obviously down and out person sitting on the sidewalk, but I would never just hand over cash.

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            Aww thanks Hon. It broke my heart. I had to help.
            But yeah, same here. I will buy food or clothes for you, but I will not hand you cash. Sorry, seen too much to not be suspicious.

        • v blackwell

          Never mind about the video question. I just looked it up, Flanagan. I have to get back into the routine, So much gossip, I missed,,,,so little time.

          • Flanagan

            ***!!!blackwell!!!*** there you are!! Good to hear from you!! Yes indeed, much is swirling around…..much to catch up on!

      • twifan2

        Ok, IF that’s the guy shooting the music video-the music video isn’t using too much video equipment. SO how much $$$ is being put into the music video?

    • twifan2

      This is what is what ison their Update page:

      Thank you SO MUCH to all of our supporters who came on-board to help us meet our goal! We appreciate every one of you <3

      We are thrilled to announce that our "Season of Joy" music video was privately funded by 2 companies outside of Kickstarter! We are thankful that filming began this week, and our amazing video will be out for the holidays!

      Please be sure to follow our instagram @3KTOfficial for all updates on our songs, videos and live performances. LOVE YOU ALL! <3 Gia, Alexa and Cristianna

      A little sneak peak into filming Day 1 in NYC <3

      • Flanagan

        Good work, twifan2!

        • twifan2

          ‘out for the holidays’?! The longer they wait, the less attention they’ll get for buying their tune. 🙂

        • twifan2

          🙂

        • Nene robs kids

          And someone (wink wink) let kickstarter know all about that! lol

          • Flanagan

            .).).).)

      • Addie2U

        ☺We’re sure on the same wavelength today! (Just posted the link at the same time)☺

      • Pinky Pie

        “We appreciate everyone of you.” It should read all 17 of you. The other two donations were family. Sad, so very sad.

    • Addie2U

      Thanks to your investigative reporting I did a little snooping myself. It appears the had 19 backers who collectively donated $926, then 2 “big backers” stepped up & funded the rest.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3ktofficial/3kt-season-of-joy-music-video-original/posts

    • Addie2U

      The site also states:
      3KT is about to take the music world by storm! Xist Talent is excited to announce the formation of this hot new girl group, comprised of 3 talented teens.

      3KT’s members are:
      Gia Giudice -13, daughter of Teresa Giudice of Bravo’s ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’. Gia has been signed with Xist Talent since 2007, and has TV, film, NY Fashion Week runway modeling and live concert performances on her professional resume. Her love of dancing and the stage has been demonstrated since the age of 2. Viewers of the show have closely followed Gia’s entertainment industry endeavors.

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3ktofficial/3kt-season-of-joy-music-video-original/posts

      • v blackwell

        Ummm, what happened to the “Truth in Advertising” law??? I guess it went down with the preceding flush in the above loo, Addie.

    • Nene robs kids

      That video was made last weekend AATT has the story on that also

      • Flanagan

        Thanks, Nene r.k.

        • Nene robs kids

          Anytime

    • Mary Stonehouse

      Sorry, to butt in, but (lol), I think Teresa did fund that video with some of her hidden money. Then people started questioning her about how she got it, and she came up with the lie that she borrowed it!! See, when you scam, you have to keep lying and lying. How does she keep this way of living up, is a complete mystery to me.

      • Flanagan

        Oh Mary, you’re NEVER butting in. Always happy to see you, and read what you have to say!

      • Flanagan

        Thanks, Holiday. I just got back home and jumped to the site and read it. So Teresa thinks “someone” is behind the less than impressive donations. Once again, it’s someone else’s fault.

        • Addie2U

          Teresa thinks “certain people with the Real Housewives are sabotaging the girls efforts to raise funds”!! We’re supposed to believe that she’s that delusional to think it’s only “certain” housewives that don’t like Teresa?! How about the majority of ALL women & men EVERYWHERE!

          • Flanagan

            Wouldn’t that be a hoot to have a poll. Me thinks the Tre-huggers would be buried under an avalanche of people who can actually see what she is, and refuse to be deluded by T.G’s claims of innocence. AND, claims of what a good mother she is.
            I wonder, if her fan club minions really do believe in her nonsense, or they are so entrenched in their support of her, they can’t find a way out without suffering the humiliation of admitting they were duped.

          • Addie2U

            Do you know if Tre has said anything about Anjelica Huston being supportive of her? When in fact, she does feel bad for her → “because her forehead’s a little bit narrow” ☺
            http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/season-11/videos/wendi-on-joe-teresa-phaedra-apollo

          • Flanagan

            AH HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

          • Addie2U

            Unfortunately Flanagan, the Tre-huggers would just emerge from under that avalanche of documented, certified FACTS, shake themselves off & continue to deny, deny, deny. Their unwavering support & blind devotion encourages Teresa & is helping her get through these difficult weeks before she goes away on her little retreat. Actually come to think of it, the best thing she ever did was sign on to RHONJ – it served as a long running missing person’s advertisement.

          • Flanagan

            Oh Addie2U, it’s time to go watch a little TV, so thanks for the laugh! That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day!
            (This would have been a great give-away to boost membership for the Tre-Fan Club)

          • twifan2

            Here you go Addie2U!
            Thanks for the gif. 🙂

            http://i.imgur.com/9qCXiBD.gif

          • Addie2U

            LOVE IT! What awesome work — you even did the eyes bugging out right before the big f-l-u-s-h! You win the Internet for the entire month.

          • I love this!!

        • My pleasure! I’m loving your intelligent witty comments. Great job! 🙂

          Deflection is Teresa’s middle name. It’s always someone else’s fault.

          • Flanagan

            Hi Holiday Cheer! I’ve been out of the loop most of the day. Decided to jump on one last time before bed. Yes indeedy, our infamous felon has achieved a talent that surpasses even the craftiest of the shysters that roam the earth, looking for poor, wretched saps to victimize. I doubt Teresa knows too very many 3 syllable words, but “Deflection” is the one that’s etched on that forehead. In very small letters.

    • v blackwell

      AHA! Here you are, Flanagan. I’m going nuts. I got back today, was checking sites for you (had gotten on auto pilot deleting e-mail). I up voted you earlier w/o realizing it was YOUR post till just now, when I came back to recheck. Hope all is well! Please clarify something for me. Was there supposed to be 1 or 2 videos the kids were making? I remember the 1st one where they did a B Spears song, using a circus theme. Is THAT the 1 for which they were trying to raise $$$ on Kickstarter?

      • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

        No v. They have a second one now. Just in time for Christmas.

        • v blackwell

          Thanx, Tigerlily. “Just in time for Christmas” makes my day. It’ll be the perfect gift for my niece (NOT)! Those Giudice girls, like so many other children, really lost the lottery when it came to parents. Basically. it will be up to them to make or break themselves when they become adults. Really, really sad, isn’t it?

          • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

            You’re welcome v. It is sad. It’s hard enough to deal with a sociopath, nevermind when it’s your Mom. & I can’t even imagine what Juicy is like as a Dad. Considering his mentality. It’s really a shame.

      • Flanagan

        The first one was the Brit.Spears video, where they were looking a little less than-ahem-wholesome. That was the one T.G. supposedly put up $10,000 for. The second one was the one they were asking for donations on kickstart. Then, six days ago, it was cancelled. A representative for the group put out a statement saying 2 “companies” had donated the rest of the money. ????? Don’t know how true ANY of that is.

        • v blackwell

          So do you have any thoughts as to what “companies” donated the money for this (losing) venture, Flanagan? It’s hard to imagine a legitimate company knowingly throwing away money, for no valid reason. it’s almost criminal that the money wasn’t donated to a worthy charity in need of funds. I wonder if it came from Bravo or Tre & Co. Do you think the donors will ever be made public?

          • Flanagan

            I’ve spent some time searching around, and cannot find any info on any companies who donated. Or any companies who will admit to it. My guess would be Bravo, and only if Andy Cohen thinks he can get any mileage out of it. As far as whoever did donate? You know, I would be surprised, especially in light of this latest stunt by Teresa, if we’ll ever find out.

          • godivademaus

            I don’t think my issue with pimping out Gia in a Brittany cover girl band was that it’s a losing venture or not. I consider Gia’s own statements as to what she wants to do with her life (she wants to go to law school and become a criminal attorney — or so she says). Besides not doing anything for Gia’s future goals, the presentation was so inappropriate for girls that age and it’s clear that all these people who claim Tre and Joe are such wonderful parents — I just can’t buy it. Here’s why:

            They permitted their feud with the Gorgas (and beloved by Gia Uncle) play out in the reality show and it took a near complete breakdown by Gia before they brought it to a close.

            They seemed to at times equate loving their children to spending anything and everything for their fleeting desires and amusements and Milania seems to have been the one to develop a personality that reflects this.

            The piece de resistance of course, was the Gia girl band Halloween video. I cannot imagine a parent permitting girls of that age group to be shown in such a sexually charged and almost pedo-catnip like performances. This shows such an absence of good judgment on the part of Tre and Joe (and to be honest the parents of the other two girls), one rather ends up wondering if it hadn’t been better for Joe and Tre to have been assigned concurrent sentences and let other family members step in to care for the girls.

          • Flanagan

            All well thought out, valid and accurate points. Applause to you, godivademaus.

        • v blackwell

          Flanagan, IF u have time, will you send a hilarious post to Mary Stonehouse tonite. She’s r-e-a-l-l-y stressed about surgery tomorrow!!!

          • Flanagan

            Just got home-will do!

          • v blackwell

            Only if you have time, Flanagan. She’s all alone. Poor little sweetie. You’re a saint.

          • Flanagan

            Sent it off….hope she can have a laugh at the expense of my idiot sister-in-law!

          • v blackwell

            Damn! Why wouldn’t she? I just read ONE sentence and cracked up. You, Flanagan, are a rare and valuable gem! Thank you.
            I so pray your sister-in-law doesn’t id you. I can imagine 1000s of them wondering though, “Is it me?”

          • Flanagan

            Oh yes-like the letters sent to Dear Abby, about illicit affairs, boozing in-laws, voyeuristic neighbors, cheating bosses, obnoxious grandchildren, long lost lovers (say Hi to your Daddy!), and all the rest of the endless stream of human misery. How many people who read those letters discover a little pointy eared gremlin dancing on their shoulder whispering “Hey, that’s YOU!!!!!!”

  • ✿❀❁ Tigerlily ❁❀✿

    Oh look Ladies. Our little Tre-hugger has made an appearance on the new thread.

  • Nene robs kids

    It’s a beautiful day when Dana hits the blog!

  • Nene robs kids

    Back here now Dana has simmered down lol

    • twifan2

      I think she was overwhelmed by intelligent questions thrown at her. 😉

      • Nene robs kids

        Yes she can only deal with dumbasses and none of us are that

        • WestCoastFeed