Fraud Alert: Teresa Giudice Puts House Up For Sale!

Posted on Sep 8 2014 - 2:36pm by Nancy

RHONJ

The “Real Housewives of New Jersey star, Teresa Giudice better start packing her Louis Vuitton bags and Roberto Cavalli shoes!  

Teresa Giudice is well-known for being the criminal housewife of the franchise. The future jailbird has decided to put her Towaco, NJ multi-million dollar mansion on the market. 

Giudice residence

It looks like mounting legal bills and her bankruptcy denial (she will soon be responsible for paying $13.4 million in debt) is forcing the RHONJ couple to quickly reduce their debt before their upcoming sentencing on October 2.

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According to their bankruptcy report, Teresa and Joe Giudice have only paid $7,500 of their million dollar debt and still owe a whopping $13.4 million to their creditors. Once the Bankruptcy judge signs off on the trustee’s final report and the case is finalized, creditors can once again pursue their claims and recoup what’s owed to them.

[READ] Convicted Felon, Teresa Giudice Bankruptcy Finalized: Creditors Owed $13.4 Million

Teresa and Joe’s enormous six bedroom, six bath home is set on 3.77 acres of wooded property with 2 ponds. The mansion features extensive marble, granite and wood floors throughout with multiple fireplaces. The house underwent a massive renovation in 2008 to make it livable for Teresa’s standards since she’s said living in a previously owned home was “gross.”

The asking price? A whopping $3,999,999 million, which is four times the value estimated in 2012 at $1.2 million.

The felonious couple pled guilty to a litany of felony charges; wire fraud, mail fraud, loan application fraud and perjury. Teresa faces 21 to 27 months in prison and Joe faces up to 46 months in addition to deportation. The likelihood of Teresa receiving house arrest is very high.

Sentencing is scheduled on October 2 at 10:30 am in Newark, NJ. 

UPDATE: Teresa and Joe have also listed their shore house for sale!

Guidice Jersey Shore House

The shore house is located on the Jersey shore is described as a the perfect weekend getaway! The contemporary 4 Bedroom 2 Bath Ranch was Completely Renovated with Light Bright and Airy tones, Vaulted Ceilings, Fans & Recessed Lighting. Brand New Kitchen w/ Custom Cabinets, Stainless Appliances, Ceramic Tile Flooring. The outdoor living space is relaxed and comfortable w/ Double Sliders to stamped concrete patio, 50 feet of waterfront w/ vinyl bulkhead. Plenty of storage inside and out. Deck & Dock make a perfect place for Social Gatherings & Family Parties.

 

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Nancy loves to multi-task as a writer, she's an actress and online radio host. She received a B.S. in Mass Communications from LSU. She's married and the proud mom of 2 German Shepherds.

  • WestCoastFeed

    Well, you know those chickens in the back yard added enormous value to the bordello.

    • Agstisme

      They NEED to sell at this outrageous asking price to pay off existing mortgage and pay cash for a smaller new home. No mortgage for them. This could only work if they receive a cash offer. No bank is going to agree to a price higher than the appraisal. This is to show the Judge…see?? we’re trying.

      • WestCoastFeed

        The house is overbuilt for the neighborhood. A nearby house sold for around $350K just recently. But they might be able to work out a lease-purchase plan with Kai Patterson. He needs a place to live. But he’ll bring his beavers with him.

        • Agstisme

          Hahahaha!! We don’t know….maybe the place comes with it’s own beavers. Lol

          • Jennymckitty

            Maybe it comes with a Bravo contract?

  • Birdie11

    Wowza…it’s even uglier in still shots. The Reynolds Wrap adds a nice homey touch.

  • She Stinks!

    Who would pay that? They don’t need a house anyway. Both will be in jail and the kids with other relatives. Although, I would love to see Tre living above that tacky Pizzeria Juicy had in dumpy Paterson.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      That’s one tacky house. I agree.

    • distressed

      Who owned that place? One of the fathers? I don’t remember reading anything about a foreclosure or a sale. Do they still have it? The building I mean not the pizza place.

  • WestCoastFeed

    Teresa has changed her bedroom furniture. That’s not the furniture that was shown in last night’s episode when she was praying.

    • Agstisme

      You’re right!! Wasn’t it a 4 poster bed?? That’s all I really noticed.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes, an the other furniture was not so dark and heavy.

        • Anne Green

          To me, her room seemed bigger than the one above.

        • Jennymckitty

          Do you think they are moving the “good stuff” into storage so the Feds can’t get it.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I think the bedroom furnishings have been changed for quite some time now. I’m guessing the pix used here are from back when they first filed for bankruptcy. The house was on the market for a few months then.

  • TartLemon

    Not one ¢ will go to the Juicys.

    Is the apartment over the Pizza place available?

    • WestCoastFeed

      I bet Joey has some apartments available in those buildings he converted to apartments and condos in Paterson.

  • WestCoastFeed

    The shore house is on the market now, too. It is also overpriced.

  • TartLemon

    Is it the Juicys who are selling pre foreclosure or the banks?

  • Trippinhhard

    @Nancy—-I spill my coke—the criminal housewife of all. LMAO
    the dumb arse crooks don’t realize how dumb they really are
    I also don’t have one ounce of sympathy for Teresa or her famibly.
    They wanted expensive THINGEES n that’s why they are in a financial hot mess now..
    Um I got hair falling out like rain water—lol
    So no I don’t pity her or her kids. JMTC

  • TartLemon

    That floor to ceiling framed mirror has been a dream of mine since I was very young and saw one like it in ‘Gone with the Wind’. It was the scene of Scarlett and Rhett on their honeymoon in New Orleans. Scarlett posing with her new designer wardrobe including a parasol. Very vivid memory.

    • Anne Green

      Maybe Tre will sell it to you!! You know she needs the money.

      • TartLemon

        LOL nowhere to put it, but still dream.

      • Lmao!!! I wonder if she’ll hold a garage sale.

    • That’s exactly what that mirror reminds me of…”Gone with the Wind.”

    • Trippinhhard

      U can buy one — not that expensive —-I have a smaller one in my closet—so we can see our whole body/outfit before leaving home. We’re the tall family.

      • RealitytvJunkie

        I have one too.

    • Birdie11

      Go get one Tart!!

  • WestCoastFeed

    I wonder if Fredrik Ecklund has the listing?

  • TartLemon

    Mortgages, taxes, utilities and upkeep still must be paid until sold.

    Winter’s coming. I want to see the Juicys move into one of those unheated slums in disrepair they expected tenants to reside in.

    • distressed

      Remember the pizza parlor slum? He was saying they were going to have to move in there as a family. He was wrong. Teresa will need to move in there alone as a single mom of “four little girls.”

      • TartLemon

        Juicy’s accepted for years what was legally going on. I think he would have been perfectly happy being a low level street thug, but Teresa was the ‘brains’ here. Shows how bright that little gang was, huh? A couple of reunions ago, Teresa was even bragging about trying to recruit the rest of the Family into what has been proven to be the mortgage fraud.

        • distressed

          And has Stacey Slotnick has postulated, if they gave up a big fish to get a sweetheart deal then they had to be working with others in some capacity. You know how they say the biggest growth industry in organized crime is identity theft. Maybe there was some kind of thing going on before the crash where it was considered easy money. Therefore Joe’s really just a dime store operator and someone else higher up got a huge cut of the 13 million.

          John Dillinger was once asked. “Why do you rob banks?” He replied, “because that’s where the money is.” D’uh.

          These people pretend like they’re stupid. They’re not.

          • BuckJohnson

            Stacey is correct, they turned on someone or a bunch of someones.

          • distressed

            I believe that Stacey is totally correct, but I don’t want to put words in our amazing Ms. Slotnick’s mouth.

        • distressed

          What I remember and correct me if I’m wrong here. She was talking about her brother Joe. She was saying how close they were. How her husband taught her brother the family business then he turned on them. Right? Was that the gist of it?

          And what did we see last night. Joey Gorga at the architect’s office, showing everyone the next McMansion that they’ll be in and out of in 18 months tops. Did Joe Gorga decide to go straight and actually flip houses legitimately? Or is he doing something shady also? He’s supposedly got a 3.8 million dollar home with marble tiles glued onto plywood to look like a solid marble bathroom vanity. I don’t know, but it reeks.

  • TartLemon

    I wouldn’t be so hard on Teresa now if she had made some move towards downsizing or even admitting what she’s done. Year after year “I don’t know why this is happening to me”. Uhhhh…. yes you do.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Right. I want to feel sorry for her but she makes it so hard. “I don’t know why this is happening to me” baffles me. I want to jump through the TV and shake her while yelling “this is what happens when you perpetrate a fraud.”

      • twifan2

        I can’t feel sorry for her when on national tv she spews:
        ‘I know who Joe & I are. We’re good people. And in my heart and in my soul, I will make sure that this is right. Whatever right means.’

        SHE’S hopeless! And a sociopath-does she she still think what she did was ‘right’?! >(

        • WestCoastFeed

          Geez!! “Whatever right means” I hope it means you plan to pay back EVERY PENNY you stole.

          • twifan2

            I HIGHLY doubt it, West!
            She never will-voluntarily that is.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Every paycheck she sees for the rest of her life will be garnished. She needs more than one lifetime to pay back $13.5 million.

          • twifan2

            She’s going to try & sell off her beautiful girls to get their paychecks. smh :/

  • Dave

    I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for this loathsome drag queen. Her and her unruly kids need to be thrown in the street. It’s only fair.

  • Bonita Gee

    Aaaaaaaaahhh!! Damn …Damn …… DAMN!! Dang Teresa, girl I wish I HAD FOUR MILLION dollars to buy that house………… Ooooowwww!! I love it… NEVER gonna happen in this life time for me though………… But the bible says in Heaven there are MANY MANSIONS…. Guess I won’t get mines till then…..****Cry, sob,sniff*** #DreamOn

    • RealitytvJunkie

      If you had $4 million, would you really buy that gaudy box?

      • Bonita Gee

        I don’t know …. I guess if I had $4 million I’d buy a mansion but don’t know what type of mansion …. the double staircase is a bit much, but I do LOVE that kitchen.
        It might be a tad over priced.

  • WestCoastFeed

    Is she hurriedly hunting for a place that she can live in with her girls under house arrest? Knowing that she could lose this marble monstrosity at any time.

    • twifan2

      She’ll need to consider schools for the girls also.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      I read somewhere she’s looking for mansion to rent. This woman is insufferable.

      • twifan2

        Joey & Melissa will be looking for tenants. 😉

  • RealitytvJunkie

    A house obtained through deception and lies. And “selling” her house is a lie, too, since nearly all of it already belongs to the bank.

    • Marsbars09

      Great point Reality.

  • distressed

    Yeah, okay, it’s only worth a fraction of the asking price but you’re forgetting the millions buried in the back yard. Vision, it’s all about vision. In this case maybe x-ray vision since it should be in one of those silver metal suitcases so popular with the criminal set.

    That 29.99 metal detector I got last Christmas would come in super handy right about now.

    • RealitytvJunkie

      Isn’t it ironic Frank dies and all her properties go up for sale. I wonder if Frank was subsidizing their income.

      • distressed

        If it’s shady they’re doing it. You can take that to the bank unlike any check, IOU, promissory note or otherwise legally binding document with either one of their names on it.

      • TartLemon

        Cash only no receipts. Family business

      • Raine Woman

        I wonder if Jersey realty laws include having to disclose to new buyers when someone dies in the house, or on the property? What a selling point!

        • WestCoastFeed

          Interesting question. Maybe a NJ resident can answer.

          • Raine Woman

            Hi West. I just Googled it. I don’t know why I didn’t earlier but apparently you do NOT have to disclose that type of info.

    • Jennymckitty

      That is so funny…Bravo should buy it and film The Treasure Hunt.

      • distressed

        And you could hold a raffle. Hear me out here. For 100 bucks some one gets to dig one hole to find the loot. 3.77 acres what is that in square footage, anyone know? Okay so a hole is 3 feet by 3 feet. So at 100 a pop, how many holes could you conceivably fit on the property? I don’t know but that’s got to be a pretty big number. Times a hundred each hole. So for a 100, bring your own shovel, they could riddle the property with holes and possible pay off the loan to the bank.

        I would definitely start under the chicken coop. Screw the metal detector. Think like a sociopath. You think Joe spends all that time out there cause he likes fresh eggs? No way.

        This was in the Sopranos. Tony had all that cash out by the pool house buried in something and then Carmela finds it and “wets her beak”. That happened right?

        • Jennymckitty

          You sold me….does anyone have three million I can borrow? I’ll turn the house into a B&B and have bus tours to all the homes and haunts of NJ&NY housewives.

        • distressed

          Okay I got, bear with me. You didn’t know we were going to have to do word problems on this crazy itch. I got it.

          3.77 acres = 164,220 square ft.

          3 ft x 3 ft hole = 9 square feet.
          So how big is the house? 6,000 square feet? Half of that is the dimensions of the ground floor so the house subtracts 3,000 square feet. Say 4,000 just to be sure.

          So the available space on the property is 164,220 square feet – 4,000 square feet. Total space available 160,220 square feet. Then divide that by the 9 square feet and you have the total number of holes that will fit on the property = 17, 802 holes. At 100 per hole and assuming that all holes are bought through lottery before anyone starts digging because as soon as the money is found then no one will buy rights to dig a hole.

          Grand Total = 1,780, 200 in cash value. OMG. They still don’t pay off in the end.

          • Raine Woman

            distressed, you’re using real math. In order to make a profit you need to use Giudice math. 🙂

          • distressed

            But of course. You can’t use a shovel. You dig with a teaspoon perhaps a plastic fork and there’s a time limit. Go….

            Am I getting good at this or what. TartLemon says it’s under the frogs. I’m going straight for the chicken coop. This is why the German shepherds are locked up out there.

            People, people, pea-pull.

          • Raine Woman

            Now you’re thinking!!!!!

        • BuckJohnson

          Also try to sneak into a chicken coup and not wake the chickens, it’s the best burglar alarm there is and it would tell him that someone is out looking for his stashed money. He has money buried under the chicken coup.

          • distressed

            And the dogs. Why does he have that pack of seemingly rabid beasts? I don’t want to say anything negative about dogs, but these dogs are a menacing looking bunch. And their kid is deathly afraid of these animals. Yet those dogs stay. And I have never seen them inside the house even when the kids are gone. Who has dogs that aren’t even allowed in the basement or garage? It’s NJ, it’s freezing cold at night.

    • TartLemon

      I want a metal detector. Does the cheap one work well enough? Sounds like fun.

      Remember the hole with the frogs a few seasons ago? That looked to me like a mini reinforced vault.

      • distressed

        Know that!

        • TartLemon

          I didn’t mean to insult you with “cheap” Sorry. I’ve been looking to buy a metal detector for a while. They can get very expensive. Think I’ll try the $30 one first.

          • distressed

            No offense taken at all. I don’t know how much one of those things cost at all. I just pulled out a cheapo number because it sounded funnier.

  • italiano bambino

    I hope the Creditors GET EVERY PENNY. . They fuck them up well time for them to fuck her up Is only fair

    • WestCoastFeed

      The IRS will get first dibs.

      • TartLemon

        I agree, but what’s there for dibs?

        • WestCoastFeed

          Not much. Her jewelry, or as she would say, her joolery, her handbags, her shoes. And that’s probably all they own of any value. I guess the only thing to do is to sell the girls into slavery.

          • Oh Lawd!!! You commented on the girls. “They” gonna get you.

          • WestCoastFeed

            My fan club. I miss them when they don’t get their knickers in knots over my comments.

          • Ahahahaha!!!!

          • distressed

            This is the whole beauty of the scam. There’s nothing left to attach a lien to. The only thing they have is Teresa’s wages and even though Bravo is more or less Satan they fire her and there’s absolutely nothing left at all.

            They supposedly went through 13 million in borrowed money, plus all of Teresa’s earnings, plus Joe’s money which was not zero even though he didn’t file tax returns? No way. Even with all the clothes and the tacky this and that. No way is there nothing left because they spent it all.

          • WestCoastFeed

            But it was great fun while it lasted, wasn’t it?

          • TartLemon

            Joe had lots of $$$ from that thriving construction business in the 2 desk modular bldg.

            ROFL

          • distressed

            Sorry I hit the wrong rating button. I’m all a twitter. Sorry.

            That’s if he ever even did construction, right? Maybe he had no business at all. Maybe creative financing was his sole means of support. These people are complete liars, I wouldn’t put it past them at all.

          • Jennymckitty

            He had rentals as well.

          • Jennymckitty

            Doesn’t Bravo already own them?

          • Marsbars09

            I wonder if Tre leased that Mercedes SUV?
            And don’t forget their boat and off road vehicles.

  • Jennymckitty

    Will 3.9 cover all the loans they have on this house?

    • WestCoastFeed

      It might. I don’t remember offhand but they have 2 mortgages on it, both over $1mill, I think. But even if it sold for a profit, there are creditors in the wings just waiting to get their hands on any assets.

  • Birdie11

    Is that really Teresa at the bottom of the staircase or a wax figure used for staging?

    • Jennymckitty

      Is there a difference?

    • She looks plastic with that awful mechanical head tilt.

  • Dani-K

    I guess this is karma, but I like Teresa a lot more this season that some of the others, like Jim and Amber.

  • Raine Woman

    And so it begins….

    Did anyone send this to Kim G? Just a thought. 😉

    • TartLemon

      I miss KimG’s thought on this. Has she been tweeting again? Wish she would join us here.

      • Raine Woman

        I have no idea, Tart. Kim G was very vocal about buying their crap at auction with the initial bankruptcy. I just thought maybe she’d buy their houses too. Hopefully under the condition that every cent go towards her debts.
        Where’s Kim G when we need her???

      • Guest

        Your comment just confirmed my thoughts about this site – a group of people sharing hateful comments except, I had to laugh about a post from Tre is felon where she is adding people to her “angelic list” after just posting hateful messages. Too funny. Glad I am not on THAT list.You people can’t even see your own hypocrisy. I have read posts attacking the children, so hateful and cruel! Posts from mean-spirited bully adults like yourselves who hide behind your monikers to unleash hatred for a family you do not even know. You are in need of real lives that don’t involve tearing other people apart.

        That you state you “miss” Kim G. says it all about you.

  • twifan2

    ‘The pair’s decision to put their home on the market. “It’s time for a change. They feel it will be a positive one.They want to move into a space that’s less about entertaining and more about family.’
    ROTFLMAO! Yeah right! 😀

    • WestCoastFeed

      More about house arrest and no cameras.

      • twifan2

        No room for camera crew also.

    • Jennymckitty

      Well, they are about to move in a place less about entertainment….

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Twi! It’s obvious Tre is either delusional or she thinks we’re too stupid to know why she’s selling her haunted mansion.

      • twifan2

        Halloween effects are extra, Mars! 😉

  • WestCoastFeed

    Teresa’s blog is short and sweet this week:

    “Thank you all so much for your love and support. Joe, the girls, and I appreciate your prayers and well-wishes so much.

    Tanti Baci.”

    • distressed

      Why doesn’t she say what she’s really saying. Eat my dust suckers.

      I never knew Tanti Baci can loosely be translated as flipping the bird.

      • WestCoastFeed

        And remarkably, she didn’t ask us to buy her stuff this week. I guess she really meant it when she said she was numb Sunday night. Of course, that was filmed 6 months ago. Is she still numb? Maybe so, she never could admit she was wrong, even as a child, according to her brother.

        • Marsbars09

          WCF, Tre is probably sitting on pins and needles awaiting her sentencing. I don’t think she’ll be too cheery from here on out.

      • Marsbars09

        Tanti Baci sounds like a flippant saying too.

    • Jennymckitty

      Guess her ghost writer wanted to be paid in money and not Fabulini…Gia must have been busy with school.

      • nan/4

        Hahahahahaaa!!!!! :-))

    • TartLemon

      2 complete and composed sentences in a row. Who wrote this?

  • RealitySuxx

    I just want to know when they go to prison.

    • nan/4

      LOL!!!!! I’m with you, Reality!!!!!

    • Guest

      Really? It’s that important to you?

  • Marsbars09

    It’s about time Tre places that mausoleum for sale. And she’s selling the shore house too.
    I wonder if that was what the delay in the sentencing was about. The courts probably gave Tre and Joe extra time to get their affairs in order, and maybe this is what’s happening (?).
    Also, the house is overpriced. I don’t think any logical person would pay the asking price.

    • Jennymckitty

      Hi Mars! I don’t know if putting you house on the market for 3X it’s appraised value is the same thing as trying to sell it. However, trying to sell it for market value will not satisfy the loans against it.

    • nan/4

      Hey Marsie! How are you doing this evening? Good, I hope. They THINK that because it is THEIR home, and that home was featured on a television show that they can ask that price. Any realtor with a potential buyer would check the comps. in that area, which I’m sure are much MUCH lower four millions dollars. Then they would have no problem use that alone get the price way down. Then, I don’t think their “celebrity” status would warrant that asking price. There no way that they will….oh, I mean the government will, get that asking price. Once again, their over-inflated egos comes shining through! In this case, it’s not “dumb and dumber” it’s “This person is as dumb as a rock “and ” This person is as dumb as two rocks.” lol

      Take good care my friend! 😉

      • Marsbars09

        Hi nan! I’m real tired after a long day of work. I’m doing my best to relax.
        I’ve always felt Tre & Joe didn’t have two rocks to rub together intellect wise. There is no way with their lack of intelligence they could have gone on conning folks.
        I hope you too are doing well.

        • twifan2

          Hi Hi Mars! 🙂
          I know what you mean about relaxing after work!
          OMG! Ppl actually think I have to work to earn my paycheck!? o.0
          Oh well, tomorrow is another day, another $. 🙂

          • Marsbars09

            You’re so cute Twi! What would this site be without you. 😀

          • twifan2

            Just as lively & entertaining! 🙂

        • Hey Mars. Rest up and take it easy.

          • Marsbars09

            Thanks Doc. 🙂

      • Hi Nan! Hope everything went well today. How are you?

      • Tre’s a Convicted Felon

        Nan, you were here.
        Are YOU okay??? I haven’t read these threads today so I’m afraid I’m in the fog.
        Anyway, I hope that all is okay with YOU Girl! As always you and all of y’all on my list for Angelic helping requests, are in my thoughts!
        Gentle and powerful Hugs to Y’all!
        I’m off to do my stepper.

  • Harleygirl0685

    Maybe they priced it so high so it doesn’t sell and it will still be there once they are released??? We need Stacey for this one!

    • Marsbars09

      I read that on another site, Harley. That’s quite a possibility, though.

    • Raine Woman

      Or maybe they priced it $3.9 because Joe & Melissa priced theirs at $3.8?!? You know how she love to one-up Melissa. 🙂

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes!!!

  • TartLemon

    Who’s covering the mortgage, taxes and insurance while these idiots try and sell the overpriced properties? Maybe the banks are working with the bankruptcy courts, knowing the Giudices will never see a single ¢ of this money? Foreclosure seems to be an unnecessary expense for the banks if it can be handled in the bankruptcy court.

  • Tre’s a Convicted Felon

    If I am saying something someone else already mentioned please forgive me.
    I would bet actually that West may have come up with my same thought that I’m going to share here.
    My thought is that these two Einsteins are attempting to sell their properties because they are actually realizing that they have to come up with $200K cash for the sentencing court appearance, and they haven’t been smart enough to actually get it secured yet!

    Sorry, I’m on a hit and run…Nightee OHHHH!

    Hugs to Y’all!

    • Marsbars09

      Girl, I sure hope to God they at least had a brain cell to set aside $200,000 each! I fear how that will affect their sentencing.

  • italiano bambino

    Tacky house.. she has to eat her words now

    • twifan2

      Tacky? Oh NO! NOT Tre’s luvbie house with her 4 beautiful daughters!
      NO BAM! Say it ain’t so! 😉

      • italiano bambino

        Fucking ugly house lol

        Hi babe

        • twifan2

          You know you wants to buy it!
          Just because of the chickens. 😉

          Hi Hi Bam! :*)

  • twifan2

    I see JimBoob’s ‘fan club’ is out already! Going to be a CRAZY Tuesday! 🙂

    https://twitter.com/Mlnelsonmd/status/509335969288699904/photo/1

    • WestCoastFeed

      That is funny. Thanks, twi. Jim is at it again today. He has to be trolling #RHONJ and retweeting any positive message about himself or Amber. But I think he learned to cull out any that also include negative remarks about Teresa.

      • twifan2

        He learned the hard way about Tre’s stans. 😀
        Surprised he backed off them tho. :/

  • singlegurl4ever

    Well maybe one of Teresa’s TreHugger fans can buy her tacky cheap ass house from her, since they love her so much! That would be the ultimate support? Wouldn’t?

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