Caroline Manzo Distancing Herself From Convicted Felon, Teresa Giudice…Says ‘They Were Never Friends’

Posted on Apr 11 2014 - 2:34pm by Avigail

 

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Now that Caroline Manzo has left the Real Housewives of New Jersey behind her, she is spilling the tea! Caroline walked away from the RHONJ at the height of the show’s success with her head held high. And the matriarch of the show did it on her own terms.

The astute business woman negotiated her departure to include her own show. Take that Teresa!

Caroline managed to get her own spin-off show, Manzo’d With Children and Bravo announced the show as part of their fall line-up.

Manzo family[Photo: Bravo]

Caroline spoke with US magazine and told them, her relationship with the convicted felon, Teresa Giudice was strictly business and  nothing more or less. Caroline appears to be distancing herself from the tainted brand that Teresa Giudice has created for herself. Here’s what Caroline had to say: 

“She was never a friend. She was someone I worked with. Someone I knew. When I had the opportunity to work with her and be a part of her life, I tried my best. No ill feelings. My heart goes out to her and what she’s going through now. I wish her and her children peace and nothing but the best. It’s history. It’s in my past and that’s where I’m keeping it. I walked away for a reason.”

Watch an exclusive sneak peek of Manzo’d With Children here:

 

Caroline Manzo is the ultimate Italian matriarch and  the Manzo family is known and loved for their entertaining ups-and-downs. There’s no telling what will happen when they have an entire show to themselves.

Manzo’d With Children will center around Caroline Manzo and her family. The concept will be Caroline acting as matriarch of her crazy Italian family. Her children are driving her more nuts than ever as Albie is single and ready to mingle, Chris is eager to come up with the best idea since the stripper/car wash, and Lauren has finally let Vito put a ring on it. Meanwhile, husband, Al Sr., has no tolerance for all these shenanigans. It’s one crowded house filled with laughter and personality…and maybe a few rounds of the Ham Game.

We are happy Caroline moved on from the toxic RHONJ and Teresa Giudice. We wish the Manzo’s much success with their new show!

 

 

 

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  • Dave

    The show seems boring but I will give it a chance. Caroline never irritated me as much as Teresa does. I still think Al has a side piece but at least they are not criminals like the Guideces.

    • FYI – AL MANZO COMMITTED FRAUD
      Governor Chris Christie REMOVED Albert Manzo, from the North
      Jersey District Water Supply Commission, saying Al abused the public’s trust and lied.
      Al
      Manzo listed his office as his home address. Al lied to avoid having
      state senator in Bergen County, (where the mansion is located), block
      his nomination.

      Al Manzo earned a pension, state benefits, some authority and a $7,500 yearly salary.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Then he didn’t take the job for the money. That’s nothing when you think of what he takes in from the Brownstone.

        • noarguingwithstupid

          You are so right!!!

        • Al took the job to funnel the tax payers money to opposition opponents of Gov Christie.

          • WestCoastFeed

            That’s pretty far-fetched,, Doxxie. How could he have that kind of easy access to the North Jersey Water Supply Commissions funds?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            ITA The entire Board would have to know what was happening. I don’t buy it at all.

          • Common sense dictates that Al, who works day and night at his family owned business, would NOT give up work and family time for a $7k 3rd job? Newspaper said Al would NOT get the job, if Al applied at his correct address, as the state senator would block Al nomination to the board.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Taking a low-paying public service job is a way of currying favor with local politicians and big wigs. It’s good business and helps the Brownstone.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Sorry, just because it’s a big government agency as far as water districts go, doesn’t mean he would have any access to the funds.

          • Hi Dox….Happy Friday!! Hope you’re feeling better.

            Al was never in charge of money or dealt with money in that position.

          • The core mission of the North Jersey District Water Supply Commission
            is to deliver a sustainable, high-quality, low-cost potable water
            supply to the current and future communities of northern New Jersey,
            advancing its mission through water resource development, water
            purification process innovation, source water protection, and effective
            asset management.

          • The North Jersey District Water Supply Commission (NJDWSC) is organized
            and exists pursuant to N.J.S.A. 58:5-1 et. seq. and is a public body
            politic formed by its member municipalities . The NJDWSC was established
            in 1916 and is statutorily authorized to develop, acquire, and operate a
            water supply system for use by any municipality in the “North Jersey
            District”, defined as the 12 northernmost counties of the state of New
            Jersey.

            Today, the NJDWSC oversees the operation of the largest regional water
            supply in the State of New Jersey, including more than 95-square-miles
            of watershed area, two major reservoirs, two river-diversion pumping
            stations, and a 210-million gallon / day (MGD) water filtration plant.
            At peak capacity, the NJDWSC’s facilities can serve the water needs of
            more than three million people in Northern New Jersey.

          • Tigerlily

            I thought Al funneling $$$ to Gov. Christie’s opponents was only supposition. I thought what he did get fired for was lying about his place of residence. I also know that there was some mention about he wouldn’t have gotten appointed otherwise or would have been blocked, not sure.
            .

          • WestCoastFeed

            The Manzos are also Republicans. Why would they oppose Christie?

          • Manzo are republican
            Lying on commissioner application was 2011
            Gov Christie won re-election as Governor 2013

            May 2013 Bernard Kerik came home to a feast catered and delivered by Al Manzo.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Bernard Kerik is also a Republican and was recommended by Rudy Giuliani to be head of Homeland Security by then Republican President George W. Bush. Bernie is also a neighbor of the Manzos and appeared briefly in a NJ episode in one of the early seasons.

          • Tigerlily

            I heard the rumor about the $$$ something or other being passed around, but if I recall correctly he was told to resign becauseit was found out that he falsified his place of residence as the Brownstone address. Nothing more.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I don’t believe the money rumor, either. The lying about his legal address is the reason that was publicly given.

          • Tigerlily

            Exactly what I heard WCF.

          • I posted several comments that address your statement. Al Manzo did lie on his application of residency. It is stated in newspaper that Al would have been blocked had he used his correct address. It is RUMOR that Al would have allocated funds to Gov Christies’ opponents <–which in my opinion the rumors are true….

          • WestCoastFeed

            And Al Manzo stated at the time, that the Brownstone had been his legal address for years. That he never changed it after he and Caroline moved out of that apartment in the Brownstone. That it was far more convenient to vote locally in Paterson. And of course, as a Paterson business, having Paterson as his legal residence helped, too.

          • Tigerlily

            Okay. Thanks for the clarification Dox.

          • The position dictates the allocation of over $32 million.
            Gov Christie opened an investigation into ALL commissioners that were deemed NOT on his TEAM and had them suspended such as Al Manzo and Michael Cricco

          • WestCoastFeed

            Well, after the GW Bridge debacle in NJ, I can believe that Gov, Christie would try to destroy any perceived political enemies.

        • Marsbars09

          I think he received fully paid medical benefits as well.

  • Manzo’s still have the Dominican Republic lawsuits in common.

    Adolfo Arreola an officer with the University of Illinois at Chicago’s police department, suffered a broken arm, blurred vision, cuts and bruises after some Manzo/Giudice “savagely beat, kicked, punched, scratched, jumped” on him and smashed glass on his head. His cousin Jason A. Gomez suffered a broken leg and a torn MCL after he came to Adolfo’s defense.

    Early morning of Feb. 23, the families were dancing and socializing at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino bar in Punta Cana when Teresa sprayed champagne on Adolfo’s mother-in-law and mocked the 53-year-old woman as she tried to wipe the alcohol from her eyes.

    Adolfo states that after that, he confronted Teresa, and was attacked by Joe Giudice, and Albie and Chris Manzo. Bravo is named in the lawsuit as well as Gregory Bennett. Rumor is Joe was “beating on the guy” and struck a male patron with glass.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Has this suit still not been settled?

      • NOT SETTLED

        • Marsbars09

          I wonder what the delay is? This happened four years ago.

    • Marsbars09

      When that incident was first reported my first thought was what a mean-spirited heifer Tre really is. That’s something Milania would do. Then Joe is going to beat this guy down followed by the dumb ass Manzo boys and the even dumber Greggy? And Caro has the audacity to blame the Giudices on her sons’s stupidity?
      I just cant…

  • Adolfo acknowledges on
    Feb. 25, he and his cousin signed an agreement agreeing to drop the
    matter in exchange for $25,000 apiece ( they never received their portion from Dominican attorney) as long as they agreed never to sue or talk about the incident publicly. Adolfo and Jason claim they signed agreement under duress in order to get their passports back and leave.

    THEY claim they never cashed their $17,000 cut.

  • italiano bambino

    Caroline was a bitch yes but like anyone else she got her reasons. I was not a fan of her the way she treated danielle.
    Call Caroline boring but of all of Jersey she got a show. NO MATTER how the tre huggers bitch and moan about teresa been the star of NJ she’s not getting a show for obvious reasons and is all teresa lies fraud n personality.

    • RonnieIsBack

      And that is why they are jumping off the Joisey bridge hugging treesssss….oooh the boards are gonna be really quiet this NJ go round. LOL..

  • RonnieIsBack

    I love it. I am happy for Caroline…Tre caused a lot of trouble between she and Dina…I would have nothing to say about her mess either. They tried to help her repeatedly and she just kept denying it…noooooooo Jowwwwww and Me are finnnnnnnnne we are fambly!!!!!!! Mind ya phuckin bizness!!!!!!!!!She made her bed, now she has to lie in it…where are all her friends now….crickets.
    Do your thing Caroline…at least yall know how to hide the Manzo dirt. Tre and Joe were too busy frontin and flossin and becoming targets…

    • italiano bambino

      She was in a hurry to out do Melissa! !!!

    • Caroline did not want Teresa to spill “Laurita” Family secrets.

    • Exactly! And Caroline AND Jax are loyal people that would have truly had her back. Tre wouldn’t know what a friend was if one walked up and slapped her in the face. The bitch just loves fake loyal soldiers like Dina. And Dina is a phony FAKE ass.

      • RonnieIsBack

        Yaaaassss Hunty. DinO is as fake as her boobs and reconstructed face. she is a brat who was also in the beard club and now is slammed to the side..she also had her wedding showcases on Platinum Brides like dumb Porsha…they have to have a club for these gold-digging heauxs…
        Teresa blew it. If she would have been honest and not thought her chit didn’t stink, they would have all just blamed Juicy and she would have came out on top. Caroline tried to give the heaux a hint” say you divorced him and stayed to teach the girls how to be strong…and write a book.”…But RutRho turned that around and said Caroline was speaking bad about her marriage…
        Bish whaaaaat!

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Ronnie! Dina said Tre had nothing to do with her problems between she and Caro.

  • WestCoastFeed

    Caroline has often spoken about her integrity. It must have been very hard for her to pretend to like Teresa, when Caroline knew perfectly well what crooks Tre and Juicy had been when the news of the bankruptcy lies were revealed during Season 2.

    • italiano bambino

      She even defend joe on the reunion saying the pig fell asleep knowing well he was completely drunk.

      • MANZO only pretending to like Teresa as NOT to alienate Teresa large fan base. Manzo wants TREHuggar sto watch THEIR show.

        • italiano bambino

          Caroline is always has a fan base either the tre huggers agree or not. N im not a Caroline fan. I seen it on many mefia outlets

          • WestCoastFeed

            When I first really got interesting in this show, back when Season 3 began, Caroline was the favorite housewife.

          • italiano bambino

            She has a fan base n only places we see her getting trashed is on blogs Bravo don’t really care. If they did the Manzo wouldn’t never got a show n Teresa yes but Never happen

          • Caroline had a fan base….
            Mall of America – in MN – I was there during Teresa and Caroline book tours. NIGHT and day different. Shocking difference.

            Teresa was in main center rotunda on a Saturday at 2pm. Where the A list stars hold events. (June 2)

            Caroline was far away banished to a booth outside at Macy’s June 14, 2013 at night! 6pm.

          • italiano bambino

            Oh wow

          • WestCoastFeed

            I wonder what kind of crowd Teresa would draw today?

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Trash Crowd!!!

          • RonnieIsBack

            Well now they can visit Tre in prison….when she gets out, she will be lucky to get a table in front of Dollar General.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            When someone is notorious they have a lot of people checking in to learn the latest gossip (positive or negative). Being an honorable person with good morals, character, integrity and honesty doesn’t usually prove to be “Popular”. Those like the whole Kraptrashian clan, Miley, Chris Brown, Justin B, or those that went to prison for breaking the law like Wesley Snipes, Lauryn Hill, Martha Stewart, etc. are very “popular”.
            That’s okay with me. I’d rather be a well rounded good person with good morals-integrity-character and honesty because I choose to be an honorable person. It doesn’t bother me one bit that I’m not popular and never have been. I’m sure that Caroline doesn’t care about that either. It’s just an interesting burden that is part and parcel to these shows.
            I’d take Caroline any day and all day long over a lying, conniving, stealing, self absorbed, whining and Convicted Felon fool like Teresa Giudice.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes, and when that Judge wrote the scathing decision about Juicy’s forging his partner’s name, all Caroline said was some kind of platitude about it being a lesson for him.

      • Hey Bam! TGIF…

        • italiano bambino

          Hi seuss great article im following you guys on Facebook

      • RonnieIsBack

        Yup..but hell I would defend Juicy too…he cracks me up…and he is married to that foreheadless beast.

    • murlut

      Oh I agree completely. Teresa tried over and over to make Caroline look bad but all along Caroline kept her head up high. Teresa was the bad penny all along and its just taken a slap in the face for some of the die hard fans to believe. She is a liar and she is a thief.

      • In my opinion, I think Teresa was responsible for Penny bringing out on social media, that Al Manzo was a cheat. I think Teresa wanted social media to trash Caroline, in my opinion.

        • noarguingwithstupid

          I agree 100 percent!!!!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Yep, I agree, too. Teresa was behind the Greeks entirely. She fed them the Melissa garbage and the Caroline trashing.

        • Of course she was. Penny pretty much confirmed that Tre put her up to all of that Twitter bs. That’s Teresa’s MO…..putting people up to tweet bad things.

        • murlut

          I agree. Teresa is good at pointing and deflecting the spotlight off her. I think its cause she is just to STUPID to answer the questions

      • Total liar and thief. Caroline saw through it and did not want to play the game. One thing Caroline is not…is an ass-kisser. She speaks her mind and is honest to a fault.

    • I like Caroline.
      I think Caroline was fed up with all the fake filming scene of love love love especially the RV Trip……Caroline knew the real Teresa and Joe, in my opinion

      • BINGO!!!!! You nailed it.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes, she simply could not tolerate it any longer on that trip, and it must have been so hard not being able to come out and say what her issues with Teresa really were.

    • Great comment, West! I totally agree.

      I saw the strain in Caroline’s face in season 3 on the Italy trip. Since then you could see Caroline had enough with Teresa and her lies. I think the rumors of their financial situation was floating around and Tre kept lying about it instead of being truthful. Caroline was disgusted with her since then and over her bullshit.

      • Marsbars09

        Hi Doc! Actually I think you mean the Punta Canta trip which was during season 3. That’s when it was apparent Caro was tired of Tre.

        • Hi Marsie! Same deal on the Italy trip. She kept looking at Tre with a scowl and much disdain. It was apparent. Punta Cana was during season 4, when Mel joined the cast and at that point she didn’t mask it all. By Punta Cana she had stop talking to Tre altogether.

  • RonnieIsBack

    I wonder if they have electrolysis in prison….can yall imagine Tre sporting cornrows to the back with her low forehead…..

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Chia head!!!!

      • Vince Foster, Jr.

        What about Teresa’s va j j? She will need a lawn mower when she gets out!

        • OH LAWD #DEAD

        • Marsbars09

          Vince stop it! That’s disgusting!

      • Marsbars09

        Great one NAWS!
        How have you been doing? It’s been a while since we last chatted. I hope all is well with you.

        • noarguingwithstupid

          I have been a little under the weather, but today I am feeling good! Hope you are well. I haven’t been posting a lot, but hopefully today I will!!!

          • Marsbars09

            I’ve been hard at work all week. It’s so nice to finally have a break.

    • Big Bertha will hook her up. She’ll need cornrows to hide the grays. Poor thang!

    • Marsbars09

      OMG! She would really look like an ape!

  • Look up WCF’s comment got featured…GO WCF!!!!

    • WestCoastFeed

      Wow, new feature, huh? I’m blushing.

  • Vince Foster, Jr.

    Teresa must be a business woman, she finally made the Wall Street Journal

    http://blogs.wsj.com/bankruptcy/2014/04/11/the-broke-and-the-beautiful-twins-edition/

    • italiano bambino

      Lol

    • Raine Woman

      How does the WSJ get something so wrong?

    • I love the WSJ!

      • Raine Woman

        Doc, did you read it? The article is wrong. You should tweet Ms. Melanie Cohen the correct version.

        • I love the WSJ but disappointed in their reporting. I will tweet the author now. Good idea RW.

          • Raine Woman

            I’ve never been disappointed in the WSJ until now. Go set ’em straight, Doc!

          • On it now….will do! Just shows you even mainstream media gets it wrong sometimes.

          • Raine Woman

            Hello? Wall Street Journal? Dr. Seuss calling! LOL

          • Babson_Chick

            Love it – too funny!! ……phone clicks…

          • bwahahahaha!!!!!!

          • Ahahahaha!!!!!!

  • Happywife

    Caroline is a bitter woman. I just hope that the wedding is private and NOT for her reality show.

    • Hi Happywife….I disagree. I don’t think Caroline is bitter at all. She just has zero tolerance for bullshit.

    • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

      Those are pretty bold statements to make coming from you Happy.
      Which way is it? If you’re going to be all whimpy and supportive of Teresa and then be all demonstrative and rude about somebody else, I’m afraid you aren’t realizing that you are showing us just how simplistic YOU AREN’T.
      Caroline is consistent. (Caroline walks a road that is honorable.) Teresa is also consistent. (Teresa walks a road that is very self absorbed, with a penchant to lie and bent on lining her own pockets with other peoples money.)
      You, are not. You, love love love Teresa and then you easily bite on anyone else who doesn’t love Teresa. That kind of rude is demonstrative of No consistency. AND Even less credibility.
      Which way is it? You’ve got to sit on the terlit and finish the job before you start to sit on another terlit.

  • Norrth

    OMG, I thought that was Dina at the table. How long before Dina comes crawling back to the cameras? Er, I meant her family. 😉

    • When her divorce to Tommy Manzo is final and she comes crawling back to Caroline’s guest room.

  • Happywife

    Such hateful comments. If you don’t like her or her family why would you click on it to read? And waste your time to write something negative? It’s not Teresa’s fault she’s the fan favorite.

    • italiano bambino

      Speaking about obvious is not been hateful is called reality! Reality is that teresa LIE for so long and got caught and denied it and try to play the system.

      • Babson_Chick

        Truth for sure bam!!!

    • Vince Foster, Jr.

      Happy, I applaud you for standing up and opening up a free debate. For me it is not hate, it is just calling someone out who thinks they can get away with a crime and not show any remorse. For me it is calling to task people who blindly follow Teresa without questioning her morals while they praise Jesus. I wish no ill will to her but it is time for her to disappear and not constantly seeking the public’s attention or sell us products for her to keep up a lifestyle that she can’t afford. I actually feel sorry for Joe because I think he stole to keep up with Teresa’s spending habits.

      Until many groupies, I don’t take her tweets as the gospel. People think that she is a good mother because of her tweets but she was out almost every night and the kids were left alone. Teresa only cares about one thing, and one thing only, Teresa.

      • Happywife

        I think she’s a good mother because I see how caring she is with her girls. I understand how angry many are but the hate gets to me sometimes. I’m sorry if I was rude.

        • Tigerlily

          Tre is the bestest Mom EVAH!
          I mean don’t all the BEST Mom’s put their narcissistic fame-whoring, and greed for the almighty dollar ahead of their children?

          Nuff’ said Happywife!

        • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

          Happy, just be who you are.
          It’s unfortunate that you feel such a need to continue to buy Teresa’s stuff (all of the different kinds of emotional and even possibly the material stuff), but you do.
          If you need to apologize, well just don’t make it sound like you are whining. That’s just a weak way to be, under the guise of “strength”.

  • Vince Foster, Jr.

    Teresa is a legend in her own mind, Happy, are you Wendy Feldman?

  • Vince Foster, Jr.

    OMG!! I posted this on another thread but look very carefully at these photos from a guy that accused me of stalking Teresa:

    https://twitter.com/Leopard_Man_/media

    Would you let this man babysit your kids? Your dogs? Your gerbils?

    • WestCoastFeed

      This kid is creepy. I saw that he was trying to get you suspended.

      • Vince Foster, Jr.

        did you see the photos of his face photoshopped over Joe’s?

        • WestCoastFeed

          Yes. Well I guess Teresa will have at least one adoring fan left to visit her in Camp Cupcake. Oh, that’s right, only relatives and lawyers can visit.

          • Babson_Chick

            maybe T will adopt him

          • WestCoastFeed

            Juicy always wanted a son. But perhaps Tre would rather have a boy toy.

          • Babson_Chick

            Works for both of them – right??!! He can keep her company while Joe is “away for awhile”.

    • Ok this motherfucker is not stable. There is no trying to reason with a crazy bitch like him. Now with that said. You know I have your back and I’m in the ass kicking mood so let me know what you want me to do and it’s done!

    • Babson_Chick

      Wow he has to be one of her biggest fans – his tee shirt said it all – Fame Whore!!

      • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

        It’s what people need to make their world work.
        Obviously this guy is way too enmeshed with TG. He will have a self imposed breakdown when Convicted Felon TG goes to the slammer.
        Weak is just weak.

        • Babson_Chick

          Yes this guy could be trouble!! I can’t say that I’ve ever been that into someone. Looks like he went to most of her appearances. He’ll be camping out at her place next.

    • Tigerlily

      Wowie, wow, wow.
      So that’s what crazy looks like up close and personal!

      Too many freaks not enough circuses!

      • Or jail cells. I like his “Fame Whore” t-shirt….NOT! People like him scare me.

        Hey T-Lily *waving*

        The Saturday Funnies thread is up…you got mentioned…take a look!

        • Tigerlily

          Ooooohhh! Excellent! (*Said in my best Mr. Burn’s imitation*)
          Thanks Doc! *{{{Waves back}}}*
          Gonna take a look right now.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            And Snoopy is dancing.
            What can I say, everytime I look at your avatar/pic I smile inside and out.

          • Tigerlily

            *Blushes* Aww thanks TTaA!
            Love the dancin’ Snoopy! He can make anyone smile.
            Twi’s is better. He gives out Up arrows! LOL!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            I totally agree!
            But either way, I see it as a win win for me. I get to see them and then I get the silly warm fuzzies!

          • Tigerlily

            It really is great after all these years how a silly little cartoon can warm your heart up in seconds, no matter what age we are!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            ;)})

  • Babson_Chick

    These comments by Caro explain why I thought she was so fake on the show. Why she had to be nice to Teresa when T. was the main attraction (won’t use star).

    • The season when Tre chased Danielle through the country club I didn’t like Caro but then started liking her in season 4. I thought Caro was a bitch to Tre starting season 4.

      • Babson_Chick

        Oh now that was a great scene – runing thru the club!!! We knew we had some classy ladies at that point!! …….snicker, snicker

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Babs! ITA. I posted a similar comment. It was obvious Caro and Tre had good times together during seasons 1 and 2. Now that Tre is a convicted felon and proven liar she’s saying they were never friends?

      • Babson_Chick

        Hi Mars!! Just can’t believe what any of these people say – imagine that!!

  • TartLemon

    I didn’t think Caroline masked her disdain for Teresa very well. There was always contempt even when she was trying to play nice. Caroline knew the truth about Giudices and Teresa knew Caroline knew.

    I’ve always been a Caroline fan. Would still like to be her sous chef for one of those all day Italian feasts from scratch. I’LL WORK FOR FOOD.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Caroline can cook. And that’s the reason I see her tweeting pics with the chefs from the Food networks. And why she was asked to be a judge of Iron Chef America. And, of course, why she beat Teresa in the meatball contest on Rachel Rae.

      • Marsbars09

        I thought Tre beat Caro in the meatball contest?

        • WestCoastFeed

          Nope. Caroline won. And that is why all the snide cracks about Caroline appeared in the first chapter of Tre’s next cookbook.

          • you got mail…

          • noarguingwithstupid

            What a piss poor bad loser Treape is!!!! And she said that Caroline was as Italian as the Olive Garden in her book. What a bitch Treape is!!

          • Marsbars09

            ITA! Tre wasn’t joking at all when she insulted Caro an her family in her first cookbook.
            Good morning, NAWS!

    • Marsbars09

      Hi Tart! You could tell even way back between seasons 1 and 3 Caro didn’t like Tre? Caro masked any disdain for Tre just fine to me. On the other hand, I don’t think Caro is a “people person”. She doesn’t seem to trust easy and has always appeared angry to me.
      I wonder when Caro discovered what the Giudices’ were all about?

      • WestCoastFeed

        You could see the growing disdain on the trip to Italy.

        • Marsbars09

          I think it was the trip to Punta Canta, D.R. I could tell Caro had enough of Tre and her BS.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I seem to remember she was not happy on the Italy trip, but I’d need to see it again.

          • Marsbars09

            From what I remember a good time was had by all.

          • MorningYawn

            She got stuck babysitting the Guidice kids during the whole trip because selfish T took advantage. I’d be pissed too if the kids were shoved off on me…

    • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

      Caroline may have actually tried very hard to “mask” it with true diligence. But, try to understand this, if you can…Bravo is in the business to “entertain” and keep an audience tuning in (for their ratings).
      Anything can be edited to present the scene that “Hollywood/Bravo” wants to put out there… in any favorable direction they want – toward Teresa or against Teresa or whomever the main character is they want to push that week!

  • Marsbars09

    So Caro lead the Giudices’ and the viewers to believe she really cared for them? I feel so hoodwinked by this clown. I really liked Caro during the first three seasons of RHNJ. I loved the maternal, caring, no nonsense aura she brought to the show.
    I don’t know what the truth of the matter is, but I would have more respect for Caro if she would have admitted to disassociating with the Giudices’ when she discovered they were lowlife criminals. Her saying they were never friends just makes her seem more transparent than she already is.

    • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

      A viewer should try to realize, that with these programs (and the nature of the beast that “show business” is) that what is presented on screen for an audience to see, is USUALLY a manipulated/edited/massaged scene that is a Hollywood version of what may have actually happened.
      That’s what the phrase “taken out of context” means.
      This is done for “entertainment value” and ratings, period.

      • Marsbars09

        What?! LOL!

  • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

    Some folks on these programs look at these shows as a job. I suppose it is a job when you work around people, like Teresa Giudice who practices being a jerk to her own family members and friends. She (and her husband) lied and swindled money in more ways than probably 95% or more of us would ever dream to take from ANYBODY.
    One of the salient points that I feel Caroline Manzo continuously spoke about was being a person of good character and integrity and to be mindful of being a good person in general. I think that Caroline looked at this program as an OPPORTUNITY to practice being a better person in contrast to T. Giudice who seems would never or even perhaps could ever understand.
    I would hope that those who are disappointed with what Caroline did, in order to survive the RHWONJ program fiascos, may look at Caroline’s “job” as a means to enlighten others how to be a better person by example. And I garner what she did was also to hold true to maintain being that person of integrity in spite of the popularity wall Teresa Giudice dragged around with her.
    It’s not easy to be a good person, when so many people don’t see it as a popular thing to practice.

    • Excellent assessment. Love this TTaA!

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes, it is an excellent assessment. Much as I dislike her politics, I really like Caroline as a person. She is a very caring woman with an excellent sense of humor. I hope the new show gives the audience a glimpse into the kind woman she is.

        • Totally agree. I must admit I did like her season one they way she came after Danielle and then took the heat for Dina about the book.

      • Marsbars09

        Twits touched a nerve in me. I LOVE her assessment.

        • Yes ma’am! Hoe you doing tonight?

          • Marsbars09

            I’m not a garden tool, but I’m doing alright. LOL!
            Look at your typo.

          • Oh LOL!!! I blame the wine…sorry Marsie..correcting now.

          • Marsbars09

            No problem, Doc. LOL! I’m just messing with you.
            I’m going to turn in as it’s been a long work week. I’ll chat with you soon.
            Have a nice evening.

          • LOL–I know darlin. Have a good night’s rest and chat with you tomorrow. Sweet dreams 🙂

    • Marsbars09

      I know exactly what you’re talking about you go ahead and PREACH Twits!
      I’ve experienced being ostracized in work and life because I just wanted to do what I was supposed to do. I didn’t care about brown-nosing, stabbing people in the back, and setting people up to climb the proverbial latter just to be popular. I’ve always believed if you work hard people would recognize it and you’d be rewarded. For the most part that has not been my experience, but I take pride that I work to the best of my abilities and treat people the way I would want to be treated.

      • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

        What you are describing, IS A PERSON OF HONOR!.
        Take great yet gentle pride in your penchant to be of that ilk. It’s not an easy road to walk, but it is always a better way to BE.
        That is also what Caroline professes and the road she chooses to walk.

        • Marsbars09

          Thanks Twits! 🙂

  • MorningYawn

    I feel like at some point, when their relationship was at its worst, C did say that she and T were never friends. T was Dina’s friend … am I remembering incorrectly?

    • WestCoastFeed

      That’s my memory, too. But, I can’t remember the exact circumstances when she said it. Perhaps at one of the heated reunion shows.

      • MorningYawn

        Could have been. Or on WWHL. Can’t place where, but pretty sure it happened.. though its late here on East Coast! 😉

    • That’s correct. If I recall correctly, she said it during the fourth season when she clearly distancing herself.

  • MorningYawn

    Kind of OT, but I always knew there was something more to the “gang up” (please) of Teresa on the deck. Surely,Jac could not have been upset as she was over magazines. I realize the whole Nick thing was going on but I felt like we were missing something big. And then Caroline shows up just as upset. In retrospect, I think the conversation was “really” about the Feds sniffing around. I think T brought the Feds to everyone’s doorstep, asking questions about T and there she was denying and saying everything was great and why would I be going to jail. They all knew that was a lie; they all knew the Feds had the goods on T and so did she. That would piss me off! I can’t imagine if someone brought me into their Federal investigation sh!t.

    And if the Feds are at Jac’s and Caro’s doorstep asking about T, next thing they will be at their doorstep looking into THEIR finances.

    I;ve thought this since the indictments came down and haven’t said it, but I really believe that is what was behind the deck incident and why it took five hours to film.

    • BOOOOOOM!!! 20 UP ARROWS!!!

      I have always thought this and it makes way more sense than some dumb magazine cover. You could see the genuine concern on Jax’s face. And Caro the don came in like “bitch we are so sick of your shit.”

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes, Jac said at some later point, that it wasn’t supposed to be an “ambush.” It was supposed to be an “awakening.”

        • MorningYawn

          Yes! And I do think Jac tried to have this conversation with her off camera and got nowhere. She felt like T would finally get it and realize her concerns if she did it on camera. But T just turnedit around with her go-to excuse that the world was jealous. Which is even more laughable if you think Jac knew about the Feds. Yeah, jealous!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            That’s the mind of a sociopath, now isn’t it.

            People who lie all the time expect that everybody else lies, like they do.

            People who tell the truth, expect the same, that everybody else tells the truth, like they do.

            When a liar is talking to a truther, the sting to the one who tells the truth is devastating. There is no sting to the liar, because that’s just what is regular anyway…people lie-just like they do. In the liars eyes, there is no need to get all weirded out…it’s just par for the course.

            The truther (Jacqueline) is devastated…The Liar (Teresa) just spins EVERYTHING to make her (Teresa) look like the victim and thus shit on the truther.

            It’s all a win win for the Liar (in her/his eyes). And when the metal doors slam shut, the Liar will continue to spin it (in their own mind) EVEN while absolutely EVERYBODY ELSE, sees the TRUTH in the mirror.

          • MorningYawn

            Very well written! Definitely agree!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Thanks…From one Truther to another Truther!

        • Marsbars09

          I’m not sure about that, WCF. You don’t talk about the Feds’ investigating you on national TV. That was wrong on Jac’s part if she considered herself a caring friend. And to bring Caro in on it was an ambush.

          • WestCoastFeed

            No, I think you are misunderstanding. Jac and Caroline knew what serious trouble Teresa was in because the Feds were sniffing around. They were trying to wake Teresa up. It was not that they were fearful for their own skins.

          • Marsbars09

            Oh, I was just going by MY’s theory that Caro and Tre feared the Feds would eventually look into their shadiness.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Okay, your theory. I don’t think Caroline or Jac are the least bit shady.

          • MorningYawn

            My point was that it was a slippery slope… T- We love you, we are concerned, we want to help but you’ve put us in a pickle. We’re not going to lie to the Feds for you. And if it were me, I’d think the Feds better not be headed my way next, even if it’s just for an audit. I’m not saying they were squirrelly, I’m just saying who need the Feds anywhere close to their biz. I sure don’t and I have zero to hide!!

            My line of thinking is similar to a way smaller situation but one that shows where I’m coming from. Nasty divorce on our street. One family was subpoena’d to testify. We very truly could have been with what we “knew.” The thought if it put me on fire… Handle your own sh!t and leave me out of it.

          • Marsbars09

            Thank you for clarifying MY. I didn’t understand you were stating you wouldn’t want the Feds or IRS bothering you for any reason.

          • MorningYawn

            No worries! I hope u took that how I meant, just explaining. ;).

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Right on!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            I really don’t think that Jax had any idea that Caroline was going to be there, . . . but I certainly could be wrong.

          • Marsbars09

            No, it was a set up for sure.

        • I believe that also. Tre of course has the mentality of a 5-year old and can’t take honestly from friends so she twisted a genuine situation into an attack on her.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Exactly. And that is something Tre did frequently. She even mistook praise for criticism when they were all at Kathy’s house for her Mid-Eastern food tasting, and they praised Tre for staying cheerful through her troubles.

          • Marsbars09

            Remember when the cast was in Punta Cana and Kathy said she couldn’t leave her children behind. Tre got real mad thinking Kathy was insinuating she wasn’t a good mother (which she isn’t).
            I didn’t find any harm in Kathy’s comment at the time. As a matter of fact, Tre wrote in a Bravo blog that Kathy is known to make passive aggressive comments.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            CF Tre, it seems, had just learned what “Passive Aggressive” meant.

            Of course, she had no idea that it was actually CF Tre who is the PA here.

            Typical…CF Tre is an awful judge of character (certainly, her own).

      • MorningYawn

        So glad I’m not the only one!!! T was practically taunting them to say something “why would you think that?” “Why would we talk about that?”

        I think Jac was truly concerned and T turns it around to say “You’re jealous” “Everyone wants me on their covers not you!” Blech

        • *Clapping* Bravooo

          Yes, that’s exactly it. It was clear as day to me. You could tell there was something serious going on. And Jax internalizes issues when she cares about someone. Chris said she was depressed days afterwards.

          • MorningYawn

            Agree! Remember he kept checking on her while they were outside. Put the Nick thing on top of the concern for friend, confusion as to why she is lying / won’t let you in and then pissed that she’s saying ur jealous… Recipe for a few days r n r!

          • Marsbars09

            I’m replaying the incident in my head as I type. I think Jac’s devastation was the discovery Tre wasn’t who she thought she was.
            If I would have know that then I would have been blown away. No joke.

          • yup!!!!

          • Marsbars09

            I could only imagine it especially hurt Jac as she thought she and Tre were “best friends”. I would have been devastated too.

          • Oh yeah… and say what you want about Jax but she’s a genuine friend who will have your back thru thick or thin once you’re real with her.

          • MorningYawn

            THIS

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Is THIS, That’s How I see it?
            I don’t do texting.

          • MorningYawn

            Yes , I was agreeing with Dic saying Jac is a genuine friend.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Thanks. You just widened my Text vocabulary repertoire.

          • MorningYawn

            LMK (let me know) if you need any more buzzwords! Lol!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            You’re a Peach (would that be YAP). Meaning: Sweet and Fuzzy.

            P.S. You said you were agreein’ with Dic. I didn’t know who that was. Then eventually I scrolled up and saw that you meant the DocTah! I started cracking up laughing! Thanks for the BL (belly laugh). I have my own texting mumbo jumbo, I guess.

          • MorningYawn

            BL here too! Sorry about “dic” – fingers going too fast!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Jacqueline must have FELT that slap from Teresa (me me me me) harder than anyone could have imagined.
            And the way CF Tre was carrying on…it was a slap that could have made ya do a woozy turn.
            It’s always been… JUST ABOUT Tre! In Tre’s game there is no room for caring about anyone else. That’s what the “sociopath” is about.

          • Boom! Exactly. The realization hit Jax hard. She’s very emotional and internalized her pain.

        • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

          I guess Teresa is a more self absorbed B*t ch than anybody every thought was possible.
          It has always been smoke and mirrors with this Convicted Felon. And it still is. . . .
          CF Tre STILL refuses to accept the plea that she admitted to. She and PigBoyJoe are both big time Convicted Felons.
          Now, the Dog and Pony show (who’s the dog and who’s the pony?) needs to be kept up…so CF Tre can attempt to pay for the food on their table.
          I’m bettin’ that it will come out later…exactly how self absorbed Tre is and was…and how little she really cares about her girls. It’s very difficult for sociopathic narcissists to give up, even a little bit, for anyone other than themselves.
          IT’S JUST A SHOW…SMH.

          • Marsbars09

            Good morning Twits! PigBoyJoe. LOL! You have the best nicknames for these felons.

      • Marsbars09

        You were thinking the same thing Doc? I never had a clue. That’s probably why Jac was hitting Bailey’s hard that night. And it makes sense why Caro was so angry. She seethed, “You lied to my face”.
        I think Caro suspected the Giudices’ were up to no good and asked Tre about it. Tre, with her lying, blinking, ass, responded, “Everything’s fiiiiiiine!” Caro and Jac must have been scared sh*tless when the Feds questioned them. I know I would.

        • WestCoastFeed

          No Bailey’s that night.

          • Marsbars09

            Then what was she drinking?

          • MorningYawn

            She had bottled water on the table. The scene started during day and went into night.

          • Marsbars09

            No, when she was talking to Ashley via Skype she was drinking booze from a mug. Jac was buzzed or drunk when she had that argument with Tre. She definitely wasn’t herself.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I am pretty sure that her conversation on Skype with Ashlee was an entirely different episode. Jac was upset when she had the convo with Teresa. It was a very sensitive subject to broach. She was asking her best friend if she were going to be going to jail.

          • Marsbars09

            I think it was the same episode because Jac already seemed upset about something (we now know what that was) when she was talking to Ashley.

        • I would not have been scared because I know my backyard is clean…I would have been pissed my friend wasn’t honest with me.

    • Marsbars09

      Great theory YM! At first I thought Jac and Caro were jealous because Tre was the most successful housewife. I also thought Caro was angry because she felt Tre & Joe got her sons in trouble with the fight in Punta Cana. Now that I think about it the Feds could have been hounding the Manzos’ and Lauritas around that time. And with their shady dealings they were probably sh*tting bricks.

      • MorningYawn

        The Punta Cana thing could have def played a part with Caro- she was more angry than concerned. To me, Caro wasn’t jealous of T, more incredulous- how did this moron become the face of the franchise?? Lol!

        • WestCoastFeed

          And now we know that Teresa was never really a financial success.

          • She owns nothing and has no REAL stock in anything she represents. She now peddling small mom and pop operations for few coins.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Sorry, Mars, but I have to object to your asserting that the Manzos and Lauritas were involved in shady dealings.

        • Marsbars09

          WCF, what about the lawsuits against the Lauritas?

          • WestCoastFeed

            It’s a bankruptcy that is wending its way through the bankruptcy court. Oh so slowly. It is not as though they have been charged with any criminal offense.

          • Marsbars09

            Though not criminal like the Giudices’, they still did things they weren’t supposed to do.

          • WestCoastFeed

            They have been accused of doing things they weren’t supposed to do. We won’t really know until the case has been settled.

    • Babson_Chick

      I think you’re right!!! They were too upset to have it all about a mag. article. I believe that several of them might be more careful with their financial affairs.

  • Newchild

    feeling sad…going to bed 🙁 Happy posting to all

    • Aw, sorry hon….good night!

      • Newchild

        Thank you

    • Marsbars09

      I hope you recover the blues, newchild. 🙂
      Til’ next time…

      • Newchild

        me to..thanks Mars.

  • MorningYawn

    Night ladies! Thx for the chat!

    • Nite nite, Morning Yawn…sweet dreams!

      Thanks for the insightful comments.

      • MorningYawn

        Thank you!!! Sweet dreams to y’all too!

    • Marsbars09

      Night night, MY. Your name is making my yawn. 🙂

  • WestCoastFeed

    I’m off now, too.. I am missing the baseball game.

    • Goodnight West! Enjoy the baseball game…

    • Marsbars09

      Good night WCF! Nice chatting with you.

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