CountDown To LockDown — Teresa Giudice Fraud Watch

Posted on Mar 3 2014 - 2:07pm by Staff Writer

 

Let All About The Tea be your headquarters for the Teresa Giudice Fraud Case.  Please refer to the site as a centralized location to acquire information regarding the Giudice’s criminal proceedings. Use this thread to ask all your questions. Feel free to vent, make inquiries, asks legal questions. All questions will be answered.

 

UPDATE  [As of Monday, March 3,  7:50 p.m. CST]

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  • Scheduled appearance court time at 10:30 a.m on Tuesday, March 4th
  • Teresa and Joe will both plead Guilty to Fraud with restitution/fines
  • Miles Feinstein, Joe Giudice’s attorney confirmed the couple is scheduled to appear in court on Tuesday, March 4th
  • Joe will plead Guilty to Class D Felonies
  • Teresa will plead guilty to Class E Felonies
  • Teresa will plead guilty to 4 charges, including at least one count of fraud
  • Teresa is facing 2-5 years  prison sentence
  • The timing of the plea agreement comes in conjunction with the conclusion of RHONJ season 6 filming
  • Teresa delayed reaching a plea agreement to avoid Bravo cameras from capturing court proceedings and it’s subsequent fallout.
  • Judge Salas will conduct sentencing at a later sentencing hearing date (separate)
  • When Bravo was made aware of the reached plea agreement, their response was “No comment.”
  • The plea deal will not keep Joe from being deported
  • Joe is  not a US citizen and will likely be deported back to Italy, after conviction, INS has the final decision

 

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Can a Federal judge handle a STATE DUI?

Judge Esther Salas is the federal judge presiding over Tre & Joe’s federal case. Her jurisdiction is over federal cases only. Joe’s DMV’s case is a State case and is still being handled by the State. Once Joe is convicted and sentenced to let’s say 10 years and starts serving his federal time. Once the state DMV case is called to trial, Joe will be pulled out of federal prison to stand trial for the State case. If he is convicted in the state case and sentenced to 5 years (hypothetically) he will continue to serve his federal time first then will serve the state time behind the federal time.

If FED accepts his plea, he’ll serve 10 yrs then serve 10 for DUI & such?

It’s likely, he’ll serve his federal time first then the State DMV charges after. Sentencing in the the federal fraud case won’t happen on Tuesday. It will take place at a sentencing hearing 4-8 months from Tuesday.

If FED judge AGREES with their plea then Joe don’t spend any time for his dui’s and such? Correct?

Regardless of what the outcome is on Tuesday in the federal fraud case, Joe will still have to stand trial for his DMV state case. The plea agreement reached in the federal fraud case is separate from the state case and judgement in each case are not related.

Will Joe be Deported?

The plea deal will not keep Joe from being deported. Joe is  not a US citizen and will likely be deported back to Italy, after conviction, INS has the final decision.

Time of hearing? And how will we know outcome? Follow you like glue??? I need a live stream?

The outcome of Tuesday’s proceedings will not be televised. Cameras are not allowed in federal court rooms. But I am working with sources close to the case and will keep everyone up-to-date with the latest news. Both on here and Twitter.

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  • noarguingwithstupid

    If you have your heart set on Joe spending any significant time in state prison for his DUI stuff, just relax. You will be disappointed. People who are charged with DUI Homicide sometimes walk or spend very little time in jail.

    • Izzy

      Hi Naws! Hope all is well!

      Agree on DUI homicide….I know this all to well.

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Better now that you are here with us!!!! Hope you have been well. I have so missed you!!!

        • Izzy

          Awww, you are too sweet! It is freezing here….been snowing since 3 a.m.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I am so sorry!!! It is beautiful here in sunny Florida. I don’t feel too guilty, because after 30 years here, I know what the summers are like!!!

          • Izzy

            I am ready for some warm weather, but they say we are going to get more snow later on during the week. Getting down to 8 degrees tonight!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Now that is just not right!!!!!

          • Izzy

            I am getting ready to go shovel the decks to clear a path for the dog. He peed on the deck this morning….lol!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            At least he made it to the deck!!!! These little Jack Russells are so weird!!! Penny won’t go out in anything but clear, nice weather!!!!

          • Izzy

            He tries to hold it as long as he can. We have about 6 inches on the ground, so needless to say he will “sink” since he is a shorty jack.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Poor baby!!!!! How much does he weigh? Penny weighs about 9 or 10 lbs, but is very lean. Short legs also!!!

          • Izzy

            He weighs about 15 lbs! LOL, he is not lean, but he is not fat.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            I hope your little JackR will stay cozy to you!!

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Forgive me, I totally forgot.

      • twifan2

        IZZY!!! Hi Hi!! 🙂
        Sorry I missed you, but work calls. 🙁
        I know you’re as tired of snow as I am by now. 🙁
        Stay warm & dry! 🙂

    • Dr Seuss

      Luckily, Joe was charged with Identity Fraud for using Pete Giudice (his brother) ID to obtain a drivers license. That charge carries a mandatory sentence

      • noarguingwithstupid

        Goody, goody!!!!! Love those mandatory sentences!!!!

      • Izzy

        According to Morgan who is a big time Tre hugger, Joe will be in and out of court in a matter of minutes in regards to that case. Ha, she called it a misdemeanor! I wish she would bring her dumb self over to this site! I could use a good laugh!

        • noarguingwithstupid

          Well, they say ignorance is bliss!!

          • Izzy

            Then that is one blissful b*tch!

        • Dr Seuss

          Hahahaha!!!! The miseducation of poor souls. This is far from a misdemeanor charge. Identity fraud is a felony and Joe is facing close to 10 years if found guilty.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Too bad Fame is on vacation. That’s where the loonies usually vent their anger, and spew their misinformation.

          • Dr Seuss

            I heard the Trehuggers are all lost now….no home to reside anymore.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            The Lost Trehuggers….Maybe someone will write a book about them!!!

          • Dr Seuss

            BWAHAHAHA!!!!! OMG, I LOVE THAT!!! Starring Meggers.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            And Barbara, and Penny and all of Meggers aliases!!!!! And there is a bunch, believe me!!!

          • Izzy

            The title could be “The Three Faces of Penny!”

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Penny is a dirty ass wipe the way she bit into our IZZY!
            It’s my pleasure to shove her nose in dog sh*t!

          • Dr Seuss

            Options are endless. I miss Barbs 🙁

          • Izzy

            I see a Lifetime movie! Penny will play Meg’s grandmother!

          • Dr Seuss

            LMFAOOO!!!!!!!

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Yeah, I got into it with a jerk, what-his-name “the Weckz” or some name, I don’t know. Any way, Yenta really likes the bone head.
            So the butt was spewing about what InTouch said with the no time for Teresa giz. I jumped in and said he might want to wait a bit to see how it all plays out, and then the wanker jumped down my throat highlighting me and Dr. as some kind of clowns.
            Well, this Einstein made a pretty off colored remark about “Jhews” and Yenta challenged him nicely. I told him I’m not nearly as nice as Yenta and indicated that I thought he just stepped in it. Eventually I was direct enough to tell the creep that he was a freakin’ bigot.
            Of course Yenta, forgive “it” and he thought he would have some kind of free ride with me after that. Nope! I indicated that he’s pretty much only good enough for the round file/waste dumper.
            He decided that he was ready to jump off ROL at the time. Who knows where Mr. Bigot is now, ay.
            I’m figuring he’s going to be crying in his beer with Penny and Meg in whatever dive they choose to. Freakin’ turd!

          • twifan2

            LOL that PPP wreckz is NOT worth anyone’s time, TTaA! 😀
            I saw that remark about Comcast & ‘Jhews’-complete moron!

          • Dr Seuss

            Good Lord!! What is wrong with the ppl over there? I know you let him have it…lmao!!! Poor thing probably left running with his tail tucked.

          • Izzy

            Now, now WCF! Don’t ya remember how much those loonies over at Fame love ya! LOL!

        • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

          If you check out Tamara T’s site she pretty much says how she thinks it will all play out. I mean, listening to the exchange between the judge and lawyers regarding the counts being addressed, probably they will be clearing all of the pretrial motions too, etc.
          I don’t know if this helps but at least it’s another source to check out.

      • WestCoastFeed

        Would it make a difference in his Fed sentence whether he plea deals on the DMV fraud after the sentence goes down? I understand that priors make a difference in the sentencing. Won’t he be presumed innocent on the DMV case until that one is settled?

        • Dr Seuss

          On Tuesday, once he pleads guilty. Joe will then be considered a “Convicted Felon.” When the judge hears the state case, he will be considered a convicted felon and that will impact his sentencing in the State DMV case very negatively.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!

          • Dr Seuss

            you’re welcome!!!!!!

          • WestCoastFeed

            But the DMV case will have no impact on his Federal sentencing if it is still pending?

          • Dr Seuss

            No…none at all. Separate jurisdictions. But I can tell you, his lawyers are scrambling to solidify a plea deal in the state case before tomorrow because once he’s labeled as a convicted felon, his sentence in the DMV case will be impacted negatively.

          • WestCoastFeed

            Got it, thanks.

    • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

      With the way NJ seems to be with anything law, I’d have to predict that you are correct. Hopefully we’ll all be wrong and surprised and the sucker gets handed his rear on a sharp spiked platter. rrrreeeeerrrrrrrrfffffttttt!

  • Izzy

    Seuss, you are doing a wonderful job on keeping everyone updated on these two lying, cheating and scandal plagued POS!

    Teresa will plead guilty, but I bet she will whisper under her breath to the judge that Melissa really did all the crimes not T!

    • noarguingwithstupid

      Oh Izzy!!!! You so funny!!!! I think she has already run that by her attorney’s and they said no!!!!!!!!! Good to see you, sweet girl!!!

      • Izzy

        Ha, you are probably right!

        Great to see you too love!

    • Dr Seuss

      Izzy!!!!!!! Hi honey. How many inches did you get?

      • Izzy

        Hi Seuus, That’s a rather personal question don’t ya think? LOL!

        Seriously about 6 incehes so far, but it is still snowing.

        • Dr Seuss

          Hahahahaha!!!!!! I love you! 🙂

          Still snowing? OMG. Ok, I’ll get more personal. Did you go to the gym today?

          • Izzy

            Nope! The gym is closed today!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Snow Day????

          • Izzy

            Yes. And School will proablay be out all week here, due to all the back roads being iced over.

          • Dr Seuss

            Then I know the snow is serious. Stay safe, my friend.

          • Izzy

            Will do. I stand corrected on the amount….8 inches so far.

          • Dr Seuss

            Oh boy! I hope you stocked up yesterday.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Hi Izzy,
            I’ll send my Angels to YOUR Angels to see if they can assist in keeping you safe. Maybe shorten the snow fall, ay.

        • Hi Izzy!!
          I was born and raised in MN. I now live in Southern Utah. 1.5 miles from Vegas. Where do you live?

          Chris

  • noarguingwithstupid

    The news agencies should be starting to leak info out any time now!!!!

    • Izzy

      Hopefully!

      • noarguingwithstupid

        They can’t help themselves!!!

        • Izzy

          How long will it take her to utter the word “GUILTY?” That word is not in her vocabulary!

          • WestCoastFeed

            Hi, Izzy. Think of all the blinking eyes and lip-licking that will happen before that word comes out of her mouth!

          • Izzy

            Hi WCF! You got that right! LOL!

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I hope we have some good artists out there who can give us a mental picture of how stupid she will look!!!!

          • Dr Seuss

            Ugh! Can you imagine???

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Hi Girls,
            I’d like to be a fly on the window in the vehicle they will be driving home! That conversation should be vehrrrrry interesting.

          • Dr Seuss

            you and me both!!!

        • Dr Seuss

          They sure can’t.

    • Vince Foster, Jr.

      Teresa will leak it to Intouch for $$$

      • Dr Seuss

        Teresa has a contract with InTouch and she leaks them a ton of lies about the case. Like the BIG lie Joe won’t get deported.

  • Izzy

    OT….did you notice that Disqus has changed the down voting? You can no longer tell how many down votes you get. That sucks!

    • noarguingwithstupid

      I know!!!!! I hate it!!! Don’t know why they care?????? It’s a board, not a governmental agency!!!!

      • WestCoastFeed

        I kind of miss my down arrow bandits.

        • noarguingwithstupid

          Me, too!!!! It gave my heart a little thump thump when I got one!!!

        • Dr Seuss

          lmao! I guess it bothered some. I also liked it.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            I just emailed Twi. I haven’t heard from her today. Have you????

          • Dr Seuss

            yes briefly. she said she’s working and snowed in.

        • Izzy

          Me too! I especailly miss the one who would give all the anti Tre peeps 3 DA’s as soon as they posted a negative comment about her!

      • Izzy

        Agreed!

    • Dr Seuss

      Oh they did? I wonder if Penny & Meggers complained 🙂

      • Izzy

        Lmao! In the semi words of Jack Nicholson “they can’t handle the down votes!”

        • Dr Seuss

          In the words of Franks, BOOM!!!!!!!!

    • Dr Seuss

      Izz…reminder, Julese469 said to tell you “hi” on the other Fraudice trial thread.

  • WestCoastFeed

    Do we have the time they are scheduled to appear in court tomorrow?

    • Dr Seuss

      9:00 am EST

      • WestCoastFeed

        Ooh, thanks. This West Coaster is going to be out of bed early!

        • Dr Seuss

          I’m with the West Coaster…I’ll be up by 6:00 am EST and on the phone with sources, most of the day.

          • WestCoastFeed

            I wonder if HLN or some similar cable channel will cover it live.

          • Dr Seuss

            Probably snippets throughout the day since cameras aren’t allowed in the courtroom. I’ll have the TV on HLN all day and will report any news immediately!

          • WestCoastFeed

            I want to see the feed of them walking up that ramp to the courthouse with all the mikes being stuck in their faces. I want to see who comes with them for moral support. And most of all, I want another shot of Poppa Giudice mooning everyone.

          • noarguingwithstupid

            Is Tre’s Dad still in hospital?

          • WestCoastFeed

            I don’t think so.

          • Dr Seuss

            LMAO @ your last sentence. Or Mama Giudice giving the reporters the finger. Such respectable parents.

        • noarguingwithstupid

          You better, West!!!! We need you here!

  • Izzy

    Catch up with y’all later! It has stopped snowing, so time to shovel! At least I will get some form of exercise today!

    • Dr Seuss

      Ok sweets…please be careful.

  • noarguingwithstupid

    Just talked to Twi–she is busy working but will be on in a while. She sends her love to all!!!!

    • Dr Seuss

      Oh good. Thanks Naws.

  • Dr Seuss

    Lauryn Hill’s case is also nowhere comparable to the Juicy’s. She was charged with failure to file tax returns on $1.8 million in income earned over 3 years…nothing else. To settle the case she paid back over half of the $1.8m & all penalties + fees, served 3 months in prison and 3 months home arrest. In Lauryn’s case, the IRS gave her many opportunities to make restitution and she avoided them. Finally when she was federally charged with tax evasion, she was forced to address it. She could have avoided all of the public scrutiny & jail time had she not try to avoid the IRS. Her kids were not taken into consideration because had they been, she would have been granted probation and no jail time. Once more, 3 counts of tax evasion is not an equivalent comparison to the Juicy’s 41 felony fraud charges.

    • joe will serve mim 10 yrs

      • WestCoastFeed

        Minimum of 10? All the kids, except Audriana, will be adults when he gets out.

        • Dr Seuss

          Sad, reality. Get ready for a BIG exclusive in 30 mins

          • WestCoastFeed

            Good, I’ll be watching for it.

  • Agstisme

    You’re the BOMB Doc!!!!!

    • Dr Seuss

      TY GF! And right back at ya! 🙂

      • WestCoastFeed

        Doc. ROL has a little more on the Manzo story. Their source says they are looking for a 2nd home in Cal. because of business.

        • Dr Seuss

          Thanks, West. I’ll go check it out.

          • its just a ploy to get in the news…..

          • WestCoastFeed

            I don’t think so, Chris. But I am judging by their tweeting. This sounds like a business deal that took them by surprise and was too good to pass up.

  • Dr Seuss

    Facts on Federal Sentencing:
    A complete and accurate background history as well as an evaluation of the circumstances surrounding your crime may provide the sentencing judge with the basis for a substantial sentence based on Federal Sentencing Guideline level.

  • Joe is 43 and Teresa is 41 they have 4 children.
    Joe has lived in USA for 40+ years legally.
    INS will not deport Joe.
    The crimes are non violent and non drug related.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Then, I hope he gets into nasty fights in prison or maybe gets caught dealing drugs there.

      • Dr Seuss

        LOL!!!

    • Dr Seuss

      Hiya hiya! Do you think, Tre will lose endorsement deals after she pleads guilty?

      • RonnieIsBack

        I know they are going down…a shame too…why did they have to get so greedy.

        • WestCoastFeed

          When weren’t they greedy. The fraud began in 2001.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            I just read that she married Giuseppe in 2001. Now, isn’t that interesting. With extrapolating alive and well, it would seem that she/he’s been in the swindling business from the inception of Mr. and Mrs., ay?!?

          • WestCoastFeed

            But, remember, she was just the innocent wife signing whatever her hubby told her to sign. Ha!

      • joe was sent to take the teeth white seminars 4 business owners etc n came back from the event….then no more promotion on tre parts….. all tre really has is booze n books…. some new1 coming out after dust settles. as long as tre huggars view tre as a victim tre sells products Milania hair care stated they would evaluate after….

        • WestCoastFeed

          The Hair care line has been changing the reference to it from “Milania Hair Care.” to “Youthful 8, Milania Hair Care.” Looks like they are getting ready to drop her from the product line.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            I love that about you WCF. You are always so matter-of-fact and steady.

          • twifan2

            WHAT!!! Say it ain’t so, WCF! 🙁
            Won’t see that forehead hawking hair care products?

          • WestCoastFeed

            Oh, that one is so funny!! Thank you, twi.

          • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

            Oh. . .that’s just disturbing. . .but funny in a non-ha ha way.

          • Dr Seuss

            LMFAOOOO!!!!!!!!

    • murlut

      Oh I think they will deport him. He is exactly the criminal element they do not want here.

  • Agstisme

    Teresa’s post plea interview with the press: Asked by reporter from Dr. Seuss News: Do you have any comment on your conviction today? Umm..youse people and this word “conviction”..like..I..we..Joe and me don’t even..like..know what that means. Conviction?!? Like…umm..don’t youse need a jury for that?!? Cause..me and Joe was..ya know..sending texas in that room and…well…umm..we..me and Joe we didn’t see no jury anywheres. I’m thinkin…wait?? maybe I…I mean..us..maybe we’re still innocent?!? Youse fuckin’ idiots….always get it wrong.

    • WestCoastFeed

      I think you mimicked her perfectly!

    • Dr Seuss

      LMFAOO!!! I Love this. You nailed it, Agstisme!

    • murlut

      Exactly what she would say

      • Dr Seuss

        Murlut!!!!!! So happy you’re here honey. How the heck are ya?

  • Teresa sold interviews 2 ABC doing 2 talk shows, and INTOUCH, knowing plea deal was being submitted TUES. becuz after that T cant claim innocent

    • WestCoastFeed

      But she has devoted fans who are claiming that she is really innocent but taking the plea for various reasons–doesn’t have the money to pay legal fees, is one reason they are citing.

      • al true est all true. tre huggars have tre back

        • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

          Yep, and there are a lot of idiots that still stand by OJ Simpson. Estupid is ESHTUPIHD!!

      • murlut

        Yeah I bet they wouldn’t be so devoted it she has stole from them

    • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

      She can’t claim innocence NOW!

      • WestCoastFeed

        She can’t, but her fans can and will.

        • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

          Well, ignorant is their middle name now isn’t it!
          Even Kato Kaylin (sp) changed his mind on OJ Simpson. At least he wasn’t nearly as stupid as he looked.

  • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

    Hey Doctah,
    I just was checking out Melissa Gorga’s twitter and it looks like she had a photo shoot (I’m presuming in L.A.) with Sonja Morgan, Lisa V and Vicki (yech) Gunvalson today Monday 3-3-14.
    I thought you might want to know, ay.

    • WestCoastFeed

      Yes, and NeNe was there, too.

      • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

        Ahhh, That’s why I didn’t see her in front of the white board. She’d have blocked all of the rest of them out. . . rrrrreeeeerrrrrr.

        • Regina Livelaughlove Hereford

          They probably needed someone to represent NJ and since Teresa couldn’t be at the photo shoot, they settled for Melissa, mini Tre!! LOL!

    • Dr Seuss

      Thanks Tre! That must be driving Teresa stir crazy…knowing that she’s going to prison and Melissa will be free to take the spotlight. LMAO!!

      • WestCoastFeed

        Yes. Melissa will be the star when season 7 airs.

        • Tre’s Twits aren’t Angelic

          Some people just get all the breaks, ay. That Melissa . . .just riding Teresa’s pump-tails. . .uh. . .not yet.
          Who knows, maybe in the Gorga’s future they’ll be meeting the Fed’s up close and personal. . . too.

        • Dr Seuss

          And the TreHuggers will lose their shit! LOL!

        • Regina Livelaughlove Hereford

          I doubt Melissa will be the star even if Teresa does go to jail, which I doubt b/c she will probably get probation. Anyway, Dina Manzo is coming back so Melissa will have some competition for the spot light!

      • hardtimz

        OMG of all the real things she has to be concerned with, I can really see Tre caring about something as shallow as Melissa taking her SHINE!

    • Dr Seuss
  • WestCoastFeed

    The NJ Star Ledger is giving the scheduled appearance time at 10:30 tomorrow.

  • murlut

    Well we all know she will not be sentenced tomorrow but pleading guilty will be the first step. They are going to have to have a presentence report and investigation done first and then the sentence. Bravo should be PROUD. Its time for them to pull the plug. She is just a liar who steals from everyone. Jail time is a must

  • Birdie11

    Tre has always said that she couldn’t discuss the case because of legal reasons…let’s see how much of an open book she is when this is over. I’m not holding my breath.

  • hardtimz

    Is there any word on what’s going on with case or plea deal for Joe? Now will he have to be deported if or he serves jail time?

    • Dr Seuss

      Both. He’ll be sentenced to at least 10+ years and it’s highly likely he will be deported after serving his time. Upon his release from federal prison he won’t go home, he’ll be handed over to INS for them to determine if he’ll be deported.

      • hardtimz

        WWWWhhhaaatt? Wow it is enough of these damn criminals on these BRAVO reality shows. What is going on with Bravo hand picking all of these damn criminals? They’ve had one commit suicide, from their Top chefs, another, didn’t one of Million Match maker killed a woman and chopped her up? Now this just about all of their HW’s have just all but a few have done something illegal!

  • Poster

    Hey, thanks for inviting me over here! Nice to see everyone again. I take my eye off of Teresa for one week and look what I miss! I was shocked to see this. I wonder if they finally realized that going to trial would pretty much ruin them. This is a huge turn though for the prosecution. Why would they now agree to almost no jail time?

    • Dr Seuss

      Hi Poster. Welcome!!! Happy to see you here. The latest is they are both facing prison time.

      They are now saying, 2-5 years for Tre and 10+ years for Joe. IF this is the case, they obviously snitched to get such significantly reduced sentences.

  • Poster

    10:30AM hearing.